Leaving nets up questioned
By Prentiss Findlay
ISLE OF PALMS — The city says it isn't trying to spike beach volleyball, but it wants to take a look at whether leaving nets and supporting poles up overnight is legal.
"We are going to try to do what we can to work this out. We're trying to be good stewards of our beach and keep it safe," said City Administrator Linda Tucker.
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Jordan Cheatham (from left), Cameron Dyson, Alison Motroni and Justin Cook play a friendly game of beach volleyball Thursday behind the Windjammer on the Isle of Palms. The Windjammer has three courts out on the beach and one right behind its building.
Someone complained to police about volleyball nets left overnight in front of the Windjammer nightclub, and police contacted club owner Bobby Ross to discuss the situation.
Beach volleyball has been a tradition associated with the Windjammer for more than 30 years, Ross said. On Thursday, Ross said he is optimistic the situation can be resolved. "I really honestly think it's going to be taken care of," he said.
Two nets were up on the beach in front of the club on Thursday. Ross said it's not practical to uproot the supporting net posts at night, take them off the beach and put them back out in the morning because the poles are so firmly dug into the ground. However, he said the nets could be moved on a nightly basis.
Ross said he did not know who complained about the volleyball nets. The nightclub also has a volleyball net set up on sand behind the dune line that is apparently not affected by the situation.
Tucker said the issue is whether the volleyball nets and supporting posts fall within the framework of the ordinance governing things left on the beach overnight. For that reason, the ordinance is being re-examined to clarify the situation, she said.
"No one is wanting to see the tradition have to come to an end," she said. She said the situation is an "unintended consequence" of the ordinance, which may need to be refined. However, it is a reasonable concern that someone walking or running on the beach might run into one of the volleyball net poles, she said. For that reason, reflectors could be put on the poles. Another issue is whether the volleyball poles are an impediment to nesting sea turtles. Conservationists have said that's not the case, she said.
Last June, City Council passed the ordinance that may affect beach volleyball equipment being left out overnight. It was intended to address the problem of tents, chairs and coolers left overnight on the beach that wash into the surf. Tent poles break and become jagged at the ends.
"They actually can impale someone," Tucker said. So far, no one has been seriously injured, she said. Police removed at least two shade tents from the beach on Thursday morning after tagging them the night before, she said.
Reach Prentiss Findlay at 937-5711 or pfindlay@post andcourier.com
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postman01 (anonymous) says...
This is an example of the insanity we are witnessing in our governance nationwide. It's all based on paranoia and the obvious insecurity if those dying to minutely control others.
Life has enough real hazards. Concocting imaginary ones is indicative of collective and in some cases individual psychosis. Immagining things and then imposing oneself on others is bad business. The question is WHY. What, exactly, is wrong with the people who promulgate this nonsense? Is it indicative of some people NEEDING something to be scared of? Of some people needing to impose themselves on others to feel like they're "making a difference"? A combination? Something else entirely?
May 29, 2009 at 12:31 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Rocks66 (anonymous) says...
More likely it was one of those outsiders who've descended on the area like locusts, checkbook in hand, bent on destroying the fabric and flavor of what used to be an enchanting place to live. They are intent on sterilizing what was once the gem of the Atlantic Coast so that it looks, ironically, like the faceless, impersonal Rustbelt paradise they fled to seek refuge here. They're always in a hurry to tell us "how we did it back where I used to live."
Unfortunately, we have reached the point in society where one person, albeit someone who, as the previous poster suggested, may be suffering some psychosis, can ruin things for everyone else.
I returned here after nearly thirty years in Atlanta and Dallas, hoping to rediscover the city and people that had held my heart for years. Lamentably, ten years from now, this place is going to look just like those two cities.
May 29, 2009 at 3:19 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
DougHuffman (anonymous) says...
I hope that Rocks slipped into the spaces we left when we fled Myrtle Beach eXtreme-South. Chuckton was a nice place. Now it is full, ready to be capped like a jam jar and put on the shelf of history ignored.
May 29, 2009 at 6:52 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
3olivesmike (anonymous) says...
Pretty soon I'll need my State Dept passport to cross from MP to IOP.
May 29, 2009 at 6:53 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
realamerican (anonymous) says...
I stopped going to IOP after Hugo. After the new people moved onto the beach and yuppified it it has never been the same.
RIP IOP
The old Windjammer was a real beach bar now it is just a tourist trap.
May 29, 2009 at 7:02 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Pluffmuddy (anonymous) says...
Ditto, realamerican! Those were the good ol' days...
May 29, 2009 at 7:15 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
babeegurl (anonymous) says...
It's a shame that some people just have to suck the FUN out of life lately!!! It's summer time and volleyball is great activity, let it stay up for the summer and after summer then take it down. I mean is it really hurting anyone? On Virginia Beach they leave their nets up for people to play all summer! If you don't like beach activities then maybe you shouldn't live on the beach!
May 29, 2009 at 7:49 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Luna (anonymous) says...
I bet someone was running along in the early morning light and didn't see the nets. They probably have a nice little skin mark on their face.
I can see it now......they got up and looked around to see if anyone noticed them flop to the ground.
Now their ego was bruised so they want to make someone pay.
Reflectors will take care of the problem.
May 29, 2009 at 7:51 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
jammanofdi (anonymous) says...
First dogs are kicked off the beach, then it's illegal to build sandcastles and dig holes in the sand and now it's illegal to play volleyball on the beach? A ban on sunbathing next? Swimming? Walking on the beach? Collecting seashells?
May 29, 2009 at 9:02 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
UrGatorbait (anonymous) says...
More real problems...some need to create issues where there are none to fell like they've done something. Busy bodies and govt go hand in hand. Useless, the lot of them.
May 29, 2009 at 9:03 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Luna (anonymous) says...
Harold my dear you are a lovable nut!
May 29, 2009 at 9:10 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
maeko (anonymous) says...
how many ways can IOP suck? 30yrs and there has never been an issue, then some "concerned citizen" used an ordinance to cause a stink. what a waste of dollars and time! i'm SO glad i have no reason to patronize that area. someone over there needs to get a life.
May 29, 2009 at 9:26 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
SCGirl0901 (anonymous) says...
That is one confusing artcile.. They start off talking about volleyball nets and net posts and end with broken tent poles that can impale someone.. Really???
May 29, 2009 at 9:45 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
KidYendor (anonymous) says...
Hello Jammon,
posted by jammanofdi on May 29, 2009 at 9:02 a.m. (Suggest removal)
First dogs are kicked off the beach, then it's illegal to build sandcastles and dig holes in the sand and now it's illegal to play volleyball on the beach? A ban on sunbathing next? Swimming? Walking on the beach? Collecting seashells
1.The dogs have to go because they bite, fight, sniff, bark and go to the bathroom. Fish do not like dog hair.
2.Sandcastle building is dangerous because of holes that injure and cause unnatural sand shifting, people unknowingly digging into turtle eggs and may distract family members from watching other family members swim for safety's sake.
3.Volleyball can lead to fatigue and injured feet and legs and may lead to depression and embarrassment when losing teams lose.
4.Sunbathing can show too much skin enticing to oglers and of course lead to cancer and painful sunburn. The weight enhanced may be offended by the bodies of the svelte.
5.Sharks and stingrays love human swimmers. This puts a burden on rescuers and hospitals.
6.Picking up seashells is bad because the seashells break down and turn into new sand. When you collect them there is no new sand and erosion occurs.
7. Walking should be the only thing allowed thereby allowing people to get off the beach so as not to disturb terns and gulls.
The beach is indeed a place that has to be heavily regulated and monitored. I am on my way to Columbia and then to D.C., I will fit right in.
KidYendor
May 29, 2009 at 10:20 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Whopper (anonymous) says...
Thank you for saving my life. Where would we all be without busy bodies and the govt officials they tote around?
May 29, 2009 at 10:26 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
jammanofdi (anonymous) says...
Kid, how dumb I was not to realize all of the damage that I have done to the environment by "enjoying" our natural resources. From now on, I will only walk on the beach in extremely short distances, as far from the water as possible and will try to remember to "tread lightly". Additionally, I will be covered from head to toe to keep my skin from being exposed from the dangerous effects from the sun. Any sunbathers, volleyball players, seashell collectors, dogs, swimmers or joggers will be immediately reported to the local, state and/or federal authorities. Maybe the Arabs have had it right all along...
May 29, 2009 at 10:48 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
iceman1978 (anonymous) says...
Why make this more complicated than it has to be? The only danger I could see in having the net left out overnight would be if birds were to fly into it.
Leave the poles in and disconnect the net at one side, roll it up, and attach it to the other pole.
See how easy it is?
May 29, 2009 at 10:50 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
WhyDoIBother (anonymous) says...
Should have told the "concerned citizen" to go home and find something real that ffects the world to work on and stop complaining. 30 years not one problem. Get a Life!!!
May 29, 2009 at 10:51 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Rggr (anonymous) says...
Somebody needs something to do! I'm sick of wasting time with this kind of crap. Go live in a freakin' bubble, you baby.
May 29, 2009 at 11:01 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
oldglory (anonymous) says...
"Reflectors will take care of the problem."
Oh my, Luna, how very simplistic! Further, it works, doesn't it!
I believe the problem is that: it dang well doesn't cost a millior dollars to install reflectors. What kind of reform wants a mere penny solution to the BIG problem?? How the heck will they get their name in lights??
And here is iceman with another really good simplistic solution! Way to go!
May 29, 2009 at 11:08 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Luna (anonymous) says...
It's not brain surgery......but it is the silliest thing I think they could worry about.
I'm with harold....I go to Folly!
May 29, 2009 at 11:15 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
iculukin (anonymous) says...
We played volleyball at the windjammer when I was a teenager. I am now 44 and they have been up at least that long. Get a life! Why don't you go around and pick up all the jellyfish, they are way more dangerous than the dreaded volleyball net.
May 29, 2009 at 11:15 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
jammanofdi (anonymous) says...
Hey oldglory, I've got an even cheaper and simpler solution - take a 2" strip of duct tape and put it over the complainer's mouth!
May 29, 2009 at 11:34 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
greyrider (anonymous) says...
Someone must be bored as hell to think this is an issue.
May 29, 2009 at 11:37 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
maeko (anonymous) says...
@harold....yes, my friends and family almost always stay at Folly when they visit. my sister occasionly stays at Wild Dunes because they have friends that stay there (eye roll). i won't don't go there either because it's just too far.
unfortunately, i've pretty much given up on the beach. it's so hard to park at Folly. don't they have meters at Washout now? still hang out in front of Holiday Inn sometimes. it's nice to hear the bands, be able to buy drinks, and have access to a bathroom.
i have a pretty good time just staying on the river now. plenty of sun and fun minus the sand!
May 29, 2009 at 11:38 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Luna (anonymous) says...
I gave up on IOP when I started noticing the women that are wearing all their gold and diamonds....ON THE BEACH!
Please....the beach is for fun in the sun, not posturing and posing!
May 29, 2009 at 11:43 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
wjhamilton3 (anonymous) says...
I can no longer keep track of what you are not allowed to do at the beach. I remember the bonfire cookouts, coolers of beer, fishing, sailing, sandcastles and even camping of my childhood.
The beach is now a resource for extracting money from the real estate cycle. Sell, appreciate, crash, sell, appreciate, and crash again.
Soon, no one will remember what has been lost. Let us hope the money was worth it.
My father left us a front beach condo at Wild Dunes which we were able to sell before the crash. What he really wanted was a little beach house, but that isn't possible any longer. The land is too valuable for a beat up little house open to the breeze. The appliances would corrode, You couldn't cover the taxes, insurance and overhead on the rentals.
I believe the beach is worthless, let us sell it off and say goodby.
May 29, 2009 at 11:43 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
zoomru (anonymous) says...
MY BACKSIDE......!!!!!!!!!!
Who wrote this with out asking questions of every elected official on RECORD....!?!?!
I might have known.....PRENTISS !!!!!!!!
Mr. Bobby ROSS, the owner of the JAMMER...!?!?! We highly suggest you REALLY make the SAND FLY at City COuncil....!!!!
Do you know HOW....!?!?!
Well, we highly suggest you yank up those Volley Ball stakes and NET and march yourself down to COUNCIL Chamberz and then address the citizens with your back to council and have your wife VIDEO tape your address to put on YOUTUBE....!!!!
THIS is what you say.....
"Fine fellow citizens of IOP, I am "WILLIAM WALLACE ROSS" !!! I hereby turn in my volleyball nets in exchange for the safety of all citizens. Due to the LOSS in tax revenue from patrons buying beers to watch and play volleyball, I hereby decree that I will INSTALL a GE 500 ft. Super WIND TURBINE in the locations of where the volleyball courts used to be. This will serve as a TOURISt attraction and serve to PROVIDE electricity to OUR island instead of burning FOREIGN COAL or diesel that it took to ship or RAIL the COAL here from West Virginia or SOUTH AMERICA....!!!!! We citizens here must practice GREEN stewardship that we politically fund and preach CARBON CREDITS about....!!!!! I can no longer sit by and have OIL Shieks fly here to SOUTH Carolina to buy wind turbines that we should be using ourselves....!!!!!
By GOD....IOP residents you know full well that we have WIND that we are not harnessing into ENERGY...!!!!! Bobby ROSS.....IS ....FED ......UP !!!?!?
....(end speech)"
Mr ROSS.....get LOUD...!!!! These punk lawyers serving city council are bleeding US all freakin' DRY !!!! Itz time to shove REALITY down their FREAKIN' ....throats..!?!?!
This message was brought to you by the SPIRIT OF PATTON and with the heart of MARTIN LUTHER KING.....!!!!!!
May 29, 2009 at 1:03 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
eatmorecollards (anonymous) says...
Remove all the condos, they are spoiling the view and make it hard to walk to the beach at night.
May 29, 2009 at 1:15 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
zoomru (anonymous) says...
Prentiss.......!!!!
Itz time for you to BEND OVER....!!!!
You mean to tell us all here that you would sashea' yourself over to IOP to get a picture for this article with OUT getting the MAYOR or a COUNCIL members photo with you asking QUESTIONS.....????
What....are you SCARED..?????
Prentiss, for GOD's sake, do you think that CLARK KENT or Lois Lane would have taken more pictures than this and talked to how many MORE people...???? Don't point the finger at CHarles ROWE on this one and say that he EDITED out some of your coverage....!?!?!
Prentiss........
1) How much tax revenue does the JAMMER generate for the city of IOP....?!?! WHAT..???
2) How many patrons on average sit and watch and play VOLLEYBALL while buying beers and generating TAX REVENUE...!?!?!
3) Do the fine residents of IOP care that their PROPERTY TAXES will go up if the JAMMER closes..!?!?!
4) Do the fine residents of IOP care how much ENERGY they SUCK and use on a monthly basis island wide...!?! Hom much ENERGY is generated from the Wind blowing through their HAIR...!?!?! How many residents have CHILDREN serving in the Middle EAST to protect .......the ...flow...of...WHAT.????
5) Is the MAYOR or any of the COuncil memberz actual LEADERS....or are they USERZ...!?!?!
6) Where does the JAMMERz TRASH GO...??? Does Bobby know anything about www.startech.net ??????? How much does bobby spend a month for foreign diesel trucks to come and haul his TRASH to Bees Ferry or BERKELEY COUNTY...!?!?!
7) How much does the city of IOP spend in diesel fuel to truck the city's trash a year....!?! Is any of this diesel from www.valcent.net or SC FARMERz....!?!?!
8) Prentiss......... (Fist POUNDz, POUNDz, POUNDz!!!)
May 29, 2009 at 1:21 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Lazy2009 (anonymous) says...
Beach volleyball is the pastime of tools. If you want to play volleyball, do it in your back yard.
May 29, 2009 at 1:28 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
ln1959 (anonymous) says...
If you haven't notice, the new folks that's moving to IOP say they wont "A home with a Ocean View" not a "Home with a Beach View". They could do without the beach. You beach goers make to much noise. (Humor of course).
Ahhh...Good ole Musketeer Beach. Yes, I know it's just a lake front, but it's relaxing.
May 29, 2009 at 1:34 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
zoomru (anonymous) says...
MR Bobby ROSS........!!!!!!!
Have you ever heard of Djibouti Africa....????? Well, we all know where you can DONATE these volleyball netz....!!!!
MY GOD....!!!!!
Mr. Ross, you need to get a fund raiser going by having citizens come out and donate and AUTOGRAPH those volleyball stakes to be sent over to the TROOPS in Djibouti ....!!!
Type in "Djibouti Airport" into Google Earth and the you will see where they will be ENJOYED....!?!?!
My backside.............!!!!!!!
I will personally make sure they get there and get it on VIDEO for you to play to the JAMMER Crowd....!?!?!
Talk about whipping up business....!?!?!
geez....!!!!!
We ....are ...fed..UP !!!!!!!
May 29, 2009 at 1:41 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
zoomru (anonymous) says...
MAYOR Summey................!!!!
Are you going to take this CRAP...!!?!?!
Are YOU...?????
You do realize SIR that every trash truck coming from IOP to Bees FERRY comes right through your city and YOU do NOT get a TOLL.....!?!?!
You mean that you are going to let let OTHER citizens DUMP on YOU....!?!?! Well, Obama wants change, and do you realize that american PLASMA technology from www.startech.net would do WHAT for your city.....!?!?!?!?!
Mayor Summey............get LOUD !!!!!
May 29, 2009 at 1:50 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
counterpoint (anonymous) says...
FOR THE RECORD (AGAIN!), dogs are allowed on the IoP beach:
http://www.iop.net/Departments/Police...
When can dogs be on the beach off leash?
From 5:00 a.m. until 8:00 a.m. April 1st through October 31st and 5:00 a.m. until 10 a.m. November 1st through March 31st, you must have leash in hand, dog under voice command and must clean up excrement. All other times dogs must be on leash and under complete control even in the water.
May 29, 2009 at 1:57 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
babeegurl (anonymous) says...
LAZY are you serious.....so would you rather people playing a good honest sport like volleyball and not have anything to do and cause trouble!!!
May 29, 2009 at 2:20 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
bornin43 (anonymous) says...
The last line of the article states: "Police removed at least two shade tents from the beach on Thursday morning after tagging them the night before". So who do you think compllined - the people who owned the tent shades, of course.
May 29, 2009 at 2:30 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
drp7773 (anonymous) says...
Does anyone see a new volley ball net tax on the way,mmmmmmm
Freaking BSssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss
May 29, 2009 at 2:37 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
ltgrunt (anonymous) says...
Hold on now, I think we're all missing the important subtlety of the article. Take note of how even the people who are supposed to be enforcing the ordinance are providing evidence and reasons why having that volleyball net there is no big deal.
It seems like rather than applying the ordinance willy-nilly to anything and everything they can, the city is looking to use this as an example of what the ordinance isn't intended to cover.
May 29, 2009 at 4:43 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
shoelaces (anonymous) says...
People still drive to the beach? Ugh...
That's why we load up the boat and head out where MOST of what we do is out of reach of the "law" or government intervention....for now at least.
Yes, we pay our boat taxes, our motor taxes, and for all of our required safety equipment, so I know we are still being regulated, but we can dig holes, drink beverages, let our dogs play, our kids can swim, and we can enjoy ourselves. And there is usually plenty of parking.
May 30, 2009 at 8:29 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
FlipFlop (anonymous) says...
Lazy2009- Go back to your trailer and watch some Olympic Sports instead of bowling. Beach volleyball has been an Olympic Sport since 1996, prob. the same year you almost completed your GED. Again.
In the last Summer Games, the US took home 2 gold metals in Beach Volleyball. How many gold metals were won in bowling, or bass fishing, or budwiser drinking, or whatever it is that you do in your lame time? Your posts suck. I've read them all. Pretty weak.
Get a life and come meet us out at the beach. Get in your FORD pickup and come out for one day.(I know this 'cause you for some reason, you talk trash about a Chevy in another post. VERY redneck.) I'll spot you fourteen points and still buy your beer if you can hang long enough to score an earned point. Find us every weekend keeping in shape and enjoying the great beach life at the volleyball courts on IOP. [------]
June 1, 2009 at 11:04 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
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