Pit bull attacks, kills puppy at dog park
By Andy Paras
Julie Teffeteller said she cried out for her Maltese puppy Bibble as soon as she saw a large pit bull-mix pushing the 5-pound puppy with its nose Sunday at the Wannamaker Dog Park in North Charleston.
Bibble sprinted toward her, Teffeteller said, but so did the larger dog.
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Julie Teffeteller holds her Maltese puppy, Bibble. The dog was killed Sunday by a pit bull.
The 23-year-old Air Force officer said she nearly caught Bibble as she leapt toward her, but the pit bull-mix grasped the puppy first.
"She slipped right through my fingers," Teffeteller said through tears Monday. "I almost had her. He was just too fast. There was no way she was going to beat him."
Teffeteller watched the muscular dog grab the puppy with its jaws and shake it. One bite was all it took, she said. She and her husband, Branndon, watched the 9-month-old puppy bleed to death in front of them.
"He tore into her like he would have torn into a squirrel," Julie Teffeteller said.
Both the pit bull's owner and Charleston County Park and Recreation officials said Monday that they were devastated by the fatal attack. Executive Director Tom O'Rourke said dog owners know they assume all responsibility when they use the dog parks, but he plans to push for new fencing that will separate smaller dogs from larger dogs to help prevent it from happening again.
Judi Telford, the mother of the 17-year-old girl who took their dog, Rocket, to the park, shed her own tears Monday when she found out that Bibble died.
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Bibble, a Maltese that belonged to Julie and Branndon Teffeteller, was attacked by a pit bull-mix Sunday at Wannamaker Park in North Charleston.
Telford said she and her daughter are dog lovers who volunteer at the Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals, where they adopted the 5-year-old female. The dog has never hurt anyone or anything before, she said.
"We're just so, so sorry for her loss," Telford said of Teffeteller. "We feel terrible about the whole thing."
Telford said her daughter took the family's two dogs to the park Sunday to get some sun and exercise. She was there for about an hour when the dogs ran off. "All of a sudden, she was trying to pull Rocket away," Telford said. "A lot of people were yelling at her. She felt awful."
The teen gave her name and phone number to Teffeteller and left with the dogs. The teen's mom said she called her from the car, shaken up. There was some confusion initially because the phone number she gave to Teffeteller was off by a digit. North Charleston Police identified the Telfords through the license plate number taken by a park official, but Public Information Officer Spencer Pryor said no charges will be filed because it is a civil matter.
O'Rourke said the fatal attack was the first to happen at any of the county's three dog parks. He said several witnesses to Sunday's attack have recommended they provide a special area for smaller dogs, something he expects to be implemented at the Wannamaker and James Island dog parks "sooner rather than later." The dog park at Palmetto Islands already has a makeshift pen for small dogs made out of extra fencing left over from a dog event, he said.
Park officials said posted signs warning owners that their dogs' behavior is their responsibility, along with a dog-loving community that polices itself, have kept the dog parks a safe place for all dogs for more than two years.
Still, they're fortunate something like this hasn't happened sooner, O'Rourke said. He said he knows from conversations with dog park representatives from across the country that something like this was bound to happen eventually, especially when considering that the three parks get more than 100,000 dogs a year. That averages out to more than 300 dogs a day.
"It was just a matter of time, statistically speaking," he said.
The park is not going to consider banning any particular breed of dog, he said. He said he doesn't know of any dog parks that do that.
"We have not and will not be getting into the business of banning whole breeds of dogs," he said.
That's good news to the Teffetellers. The couple has their own pit bull-mix and a doberman that they've trained to be social since they were puppies.
They don't want to see pit bulls banned from the parks, but they would like to see people take responsibility for their dogs, as the signs say.
Teffeteller and Telford spoke over the phone Monday. Telford apologized and promised to get Rocket socialized and trained.
After the conversation, Teffeteller said she has no ill will toward the family or their dog. She hopes people will read about the experience and get their own dogs trained.
"We don't believe in bad dogs," she said. "We just believe in bad owners."
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ChasGuy71 (anonymous) says...
So the owner is promising to get the dog socialized and trained NOW? Considering that her dog viciously killed another at a public dog park it's probably too late for that. The owner should either permanently keep that dog out of public situations or she should put it down. She should also have been smart enough to recognize her dog's breed as being one that is animal aggressive and never taken it to the park. Instead, she selfishly thought that "her dog" would never do that and a poor puppy paid with it's life and everyone else at the park got to witness the brutal attack.
March 10, 2009 at 12:44 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
bigdrewsmoove (anonymous) says...
This is a terrible situation and I feel bad for both families involved. However, is this really front page of the webstie news? I think the Post and Courier is working their own biased agenda to add to the hysteria surrounding pitbulls and pit mixes. The story about the poodle a few weeks ago was front of the website and now this.
March 10, 2009 at 1 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
bigdrewsmoove (anonymous) says...
I am glad that the family of the Maltese is not holding any ill will towards the family of the pit or pitbulls as a whole. They have absolutely every right to be upset and hateful but I'm sure they understand that this is an unfortunate incident. I'm sure there is going to be all kind of hatred and pitbull-bashing on this forum for days to come, but it solves nothing.
With that being said, I absolutely agree that there should be separate areas for big dogs and small dogs at the dog park. Pit bulls and other big dogs should still be allowed to come to the parks, but it only makes sense to keep the smaller dogs separated from the bigger ones.
March 10, 2009 at 1:08 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
sethook (anonymous) says...
With pit bulls, it's not "if, it's "when".
March 10, 2009 at 1:34 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
BPFROM843 (anonymous) says...
pit bulls should be banned from dog parks they are way to unpredictable and vicious the owner should be charged with animal neglect i know if that was my pet i would have killed the pit bull on site
March 10, 2009 at 1:45 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
MrsGreg (anonymous) says...
My husband & I were at the dog park with our puppy when this happened. In fact, I watched the life drain from this pup's eyes & even went home with her blood on my clothes from trying to help. My eyes tear when I think of the whole thing.
After we got home, I emailed the Post & Courier to notify them of it. The sole purpose was to emphasize that training is necessary for ALL breeds of dogs.
Yes, there is a certain risk when taking your animal to the park however, YOU are responsible for your pet. YOU should know your animal & how it behaves (& be able to handle it) before bringing it in such an enviornment. If you take your human child to the park, YOU are responsible for his or her actions. Don't you teach your child to play nice with others? Animals need to be taught also.
For those of us who are animal lovers, our pets are our fuzzy kids...a member of the family. That my friends, is why we need to keep our animals trained & our dog parks safe.
March 10, 2009 at 1:47 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
AlertAndOriented (anonymous) says...
I don't understand why Tom O'Rourke doesn't want to ban pit bulls from the dog parks. When you allow pit bulls, then of course "something like this was bound to happen eventually." And it will happen again.
Even pit bull advocacy groups like Bad Rap advise pit bull owners to NEVER take a pit bull to a dog park; it's stupid. (Of course, if it wasn't for stupid people, who would own pit bulls?)
And congrats to the 'Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals' for adopting out another mauler, a breed known to be, well, Cruel to Animals.
Ah well, another day - another dead pup. So long as it's not a pit bull, eh pit advocates? After all, "Pit bulls are the only breed that matters." (Right advocates?) And there's the irony... at least they kept it all in the family. One pit owner's dog kills another pit owner's dog and in the end, they're still able to join together in the Koom-Bi-Ya circle and sing the praises of their "Misunderstood Breed."
(Buppppph. Idiots!)
March 10, 2009 at 2:42 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
eatmorecollards (anonymous) says...
Think about it. Dog parks are a silly idea in the first place. What kind of mentality thinks dogs, unfamiliar with each other, will play nice together. That concept goes against animal nature. I hope my tax dollars don't go to support them.
March 10, 2009 at 3:11 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
ballachulish (anonymous) says...
So horrible..
Do homeowners with notorious breeds, pits, rottweilers, chows, have to pay extra on their insurance?
March 10, 2009 at 4:38 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
NativeSon (anonymous) says...
The only two reasons a person has a Pit Bull dog is either:
1. it is used for dog fighting, or
2. for the protection of the owners' drug stash.
This breed of dog has NO business in any civilized society.
March 10, 2009 at 4:41 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
upyerwazoo (anonymous) says...
Aggressive breed dog owners should have to have a license or permit for each dog.no ownership if you have committed a crime .then be required to take a class on familiarity/training of these types of breeds with proof.if you have this type of breed and none of the above they should take the animal from you.as well as search your residence for more.this would defiantly cut down on backyard breeders .thug owners and idiots who cannot properly takr care train and own these types responsibly.this is not to punish the dog .it is to separate the idiots from dynamite.all of it registered of course in a data base .several years of this probably would help the dogs reputation.
March 10, 2009 at 5:07 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
upyerwazoo (anonymous) says...
Posted by ballachulish on March 10, 2009 at 4:38 a.m. (Suggest removal)
So horrible..
Do homeowners with notorious breeds, pits, rottweilers, chows, have to pay extra on their insurance?
they need to!ive heard of them canceling a policy after someones bitten.
March 10, 2009 at 5:09 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
rmsems (anonymous) says...
In European countries, owners of large dogs must socialize them, then they get tested and only then,the owner can take those dogs out in public without a leash. However, they usually must wear a muzzle. It would be cheaper than putting up a fence (for taxpayers), if owners of larger dogs would have to buy a muzzle.
March 10, 2009 at 5:24 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
aunt_of_many (anonymous) says...
NativeSon don't stereotype. I don't fight dogs. As a matter of fact I think Michael Vick should be put away for many years. I haven't done any drugs since I was a teenager over 25 years ago so there is no stash to protect. The owner of this pit should have socialized him before this happened. As a matter of fact any breed should be socialized before it is taken to a park.
March 10, 2009 at 5:37 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
spengler (anonymous) says...
Pit Bull = Loaded Gun.
March 10, 2009 at 5:38 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
moonpie (anonymous) says...
ditto that spengler. They serve no good purpose. They have been bred inconsistently and caused personality defects no fault of their own. They need to be outlawed.
I know a perosn who just a couple weeks ago, their 9 yr old was out playing, had (2)pits chase him to where he had to jump in a ditch full of water. Dad hears comotion comes outside and shoots both dogs dead. Good for him. Berkeley county shows up and threatens to write him a ticket because he didn't shoot in the air FIRST to try and scare them off! After the first shot the second dog kept coming, duh?
AND These idiots protect us.
March 10, 2009 at 6:05 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
sandnateater (anonymous) says...
Pit Bulls have no business in a dog park. They are always the most aggressive dogs at the park. Why wasn't this dog put down? The pit that killed the poodle a few weeks ago was put down. This dog no longer belongs in society. It needs to be put down. Pit Bull owners are on notice. If your dog shows any aggression at the dog park toward my dog I will call the police and have it removed from the park. I'm not waiting around for my dog to be your dogs next victim. Pit Bulls are killers and you ignorant people that own them need to wake up.
March 10, 2009 at 6:06 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
ballachulish (anonymous) says...
rmsems,
In Germany, Pits, American Staffordshire and Staffordshire terriers are banned from entering the country. Rottweilers must have a temperment test and if they fail, they are banned as well, or face outrageous licensing fees and must be muzzled.
In addition, the home owner has to pay dog liabilty insurance, if your dog runs in front of a car, for example, and causes an accident the dog owner is liable for the costs involved.
March 10, 2009 at 6:13 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
rkneeboy (anonymous) says...
Maybe the readers missed the second word in the dog's breed "-mix". The article (which, by the way refers to the Maltese as a 9 month old, then a five year old "puppy") has been written with an agenda. This was not a PIT BULL! Go to the SPCA and try to adopt a puppy without some fraction od American Pit Bull Terrier in it. The responsibility lies with the owners of both dogs. If you go to a dog park with a very small dog, it is your responsibility to watch which dogs it plays with. Everyone here seems to take for granted that the Maltese was well behaved and even placid. I don't want to stereotype based on breed of dog, but I have found such breeds to occasionally be nippy and aggressive. I've even seen them taunt other dogs... but I hate to generalize based on breed.
March 10, 2009 at 6:19 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Tulane75 (anonymous) says...
This story is absolutely appropriate for this website, as well as the printed paper. This is a lesson that needs to be "hammered" home.
The fence idea is probably a good one.
March 10, 2009 at 6:30 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
FiscalConservative (anonymous) says...
"Maybe the readers missed the second word in the dog's breed "-mix". The article (which, by the way refers to the Maltese as a 9 month old, then a five year old "puppy") has been written with an agenda. This was not a PIT BULL! Go to the SPCA and try to adopt a puppy without some fraction od American Pit Bull Terrier in it. The responsibility lies with the owners of both dogs. If you go to a dog park with a very small dog, it is your responsibility to watch which dogs it plays with. Everyone here seems to take for granted that the Maltese was well behaved and even placid. I don't want to stereotype based on breed of dog, but I have found such breeds to occasionally be nippy and aggressive. I've even seen them taunt other dogs... but I hate to generalize based on breed."
My grandmother has had these dogs as long as I can remember. She never brought them around any bigger dogs because they nip at the bigger dogs and don't know when to stop. I am not saying that is the case here but Maltese can drive you nuts.
March 10, 2009 at 6:32 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
strongjohn10856 (anonymous) says...
Just want to point out that the Charleston County Parks Department does not use taxpayers' money for its development and operating expenses. User fees fund the parks and even return a surplus to County coffers.
March 10, 2009 at 6:35 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
MisWesaMoves (anonymous) says...
Ballachullish, down here in South Florida, I worked for a year in an insurance agency and YES, some insurance companies WILL NOT insure the homes of owners of "notorious breeds" of dogs. It needs to happen back home in Charleston too! And Native Son you "hit the nail on the head" with BOTH of your reasons for owning a pit bull, especially #2!
March 10, 2009 at 6:37 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
SomeTruthPlease (anonymous) says...
I do not LOVE pit bulls, but they can be wonderful dogs. I had a Shar Pei years back that killed a neighbors Chihuahua. He would not have hurt a fly, but he was in our yard, the neighbors dog entered my property, and was aggressive to our dog. I felt horrible, but know that dogs can and will be aggressive to each other, especially when they are strangers to one another. Many dogs can be unpredictable when put in those situations. Pit bulls are horrifically strong dogs. I have adopted one in the past, and when she went for walks, she walked me. I think it's definitely a breed that is best controlled on the owner's property, and not in a public place. They are simply too strong for the owner to control when that time comes. I would take our dog to the beach at night for walks and exercise. I had "Beware of Dog" signs posted around our property, so that everyone from neighbors children to the meter reader knew that I had a dog that even had the capacity to inflict damage. It's all the owner's responsibility.
March 10, 2009 at 6:56 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
steve (anonymous) says...
How sad. What a crappy way to start the day. As a Maltese owner my heart breaks.
March 10, 2009 at 7 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
mb300sl (anonymous) says...
Dog parks are a waste of tax dollars...owners who walk their dogs should have them on a leash, period! The pit bull that killed the puppy should be PUT DOWN and the owner should have to pay damages and a fine. It's called being responsible...
March 10, 2009 at 7:02 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
number1volsfan1 (anonymous) says...
This could have very easily been a dead child. Pit Bulls should be eradicated from the face of the earth. How many more maulings from these vicious animals are we going to tolerate?
I don't want to hear any bleeding-heart pit bull owners tell me "it's not the breed, it's the owner who allows the breed to become agressive".
My niece was recently attacked by a "passive" pit bull who "would never hurt anyone". Luckily, a citizen with a CWP took care of the problem before she was seriously hurt (this happened in Tennessee last month).
I say, eradicate the breed from the face of the earth!
March 10, 2009 at 7:03 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
dbeast420 (anonymous) says...
The best way to end all of the attacks is just eradicate the breed.
'Nuff said !
March 10, 2009 at 7:20 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
yird (anonymous) says...
It is sad this happened but dogs are predatory by nature.
Just what is "socializing" dogs? Is that where a result like the socially conditioned chip that mutilated the woman in Connecticut is anticipated?
There's no doubt that the subject at hand creates an emotional hysteria that results in comments that bear scrutiny.
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Posted by ballachulish on March 10, 2009 at 4:38 a.m
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So horrible..
Do homeowners with notorious breeds, pits, rottweilers, chows, have to pay extra on their insurance?
they need to!ive heard of them canceling a policy after someones bitten.
Huh?
Posted by rkneeboy on March 10, 2009 at 6:19 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Maybe the readers missed the second word in the dog's breed "-mix". The article (which, by the way refers to the Maltese as a 9 month old, then a five year old "puppy") has
I admit, I missed that!
March 10, 2009 at 7:24 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
thequestion (anonymous) says...
In most cities dog parks are divided by a fence according to the dog's size. Most cities also have volunteers or staff that ban aggressive dogs forever at the first sign of trouble. Granted the latter would not have worked in this situation but the fence surely would have. I think most appreciate the Charleston Area's commitment to becoming more pet friendly but planners need to realize that the one big fence idea is just not appropriate.
March 10, 2009 at 7:33 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
sandnateater (anonymous) says...
This aggressive behavior by pit bulls at the dog park is very common.
March 10, 2009 at 7:40 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Roget (anonymous) says...
The dog's name was "Bibble"? Maybe the pit bull thought he heard it called "Kibble." As pit bulls say, "Maltese - The Other White Meat."
Sarcasm aside, I do feel sorry for the owner of the Maltese and any dog owner who loses a pet. As mentioned previously, maybe the solution is to segregate dog parks by dog size. You could put the pit bulls in a small circular cage in case they want to fight...wait, I think that's been done before. Never mind, that's a bad idea.
March 10, 2009 at 7:50 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
geekboy (anonymous) says...
Posted by spengler on March 10, 2009 at 5:38 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Pit Bull = Loaded Gun.
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No, Pit Bull = Lit Fuse.
March 10, 2009 at 7:50 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
majorjohnson (anonymous) says...
Emotional hysteria on both sides. Dogs are our fuzzy children, dogs are killers, blah blah blah. Out of 100,000 dogs in the park 2 got in a fight and 1 died. Big freaking deal. Know what the murder rate is in on the streets of Charleston? 15 per 100,000, twice the national rate and 15 times the dog rate. Sorry for the dog but so it goes. Go back about your lives, nothing to see here.
March 10, 2009 at 7:54 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
theronce (anonymous) says...
I couldn't help but notice so few posts on the stem cell article. I see what is more important now with all the posters here. It's amusing to see one poster blaming the little nipping dog and another stem cell research supporter degrading another human to a dog. It's good it seems to many to muddy the waters today where, hey, it's all good...and, if you can't accept that, then you're an idiot fascist religious nut. As one of those idiots, the thing that is surprising to me is that this has not happened before now...and I guess that I would seal my idiot label by saying that it is just a matter of time before this happens to a kid at a park and possibly by the same dog after socialization school. Keep in mind that what you learn first, you learn best, and retain the longest...and this dog has tasted blood and victory. Also, I don't think that the PnC has that big of an agenda. This story is second page online...buried, kinda like that little dog. I also think that some of those little breeds can be so annoyingly yippy and nippy (but cute) just like the big pit breeds can be so deadly unpredictable and aggressive.
March 10, 2009 at 8 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
SCHoser (anonymous) says...
Just another repeat story-not the first, won't be the last. Unfortunately, the "right" to own this type of dog outweighs the consequences.
March 10, 2009 at 8:03 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
charlestt (anonymous) says...
Let the the PB and their owners have the dogparks. I know I won't take my family/dog anywhere near one. If you own a PB you probably have nothing to lose.
March 10, 2009 at 8:03 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Clemsurf (anonymous) says...
How many stories are we going to read about pit bulls killing other dogs or people? You idiots can stick up for pit bulls all you want. If one steps foot on my property, there's a loaded 12 gauge in the garage waiting.
March 10, 2009 at 8:10 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
sdebaun (anonymous) says...
I take my dog to that dog park all of the time. While I love the park, I have however noticed on quite a few occasions where the bigger dogs will get too rough with smaller dogs. Just last week we thought that a bigger dog had injured a smaller ones front legs because it charged the smaller one. With that being said, I think there should definitely be some separation between the larger and smaller breeds.
March 10, 2009 at 8:15 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
zekemire (anonymous) says...
This pit bull and ALL OTHER PIT BULLS AND MIXES NEED TO BE DESTROYED! THEY ARE ALL UNSAFE! THE RIDICULOUS GROUPS WHO THINK THEY CAN REHAB MICHAEL VICK'S DOGS ARE JUST TURNING LOOSE WEAPONS AGAINST THE PUBLIC!
March 10, 2009 at 8:19 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Lovely_One (anonymous) says...
Oh boy! Here we go again!
March 10, 2009 at 8:26 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
512c (anonymous) says...
personally, it freaks me out when my 2 year old human daughter is walking amongst dogs at the park, and a pit bull flashes by.
i would rip the dog apart, to save her. but, i can't be there every second... why should the pits be allowed to run around without a special training collar?
March 10, 2009 at 8:53 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
dhalfen (anonymous) says...
I live in Baltimore, and we _often_ hear stories of pit bulls mauling other animals and kids. (Seems to be a popular dog in this locale, for some idiot reason, and they're often raised as "thug" dogs, along with several other large breeds.) In fact, I wonder how many of these incidents _don't_ make the media spotlight.
I've known several pit bulls, and I can honestly say: I'm not a fan! They're too impulsive, and they _don't_ know their own strength. Mix that impulsiveness with _bad_ owners (which, let's face it, is all-too-often the case), and you have a grenade waiting to explode.
Poor Bibble! That news really sours my morning...
March 10, 2009 at 9:05 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Xnavykat (anonymous) says...
Pit bulls are just so unpredictable. I just hear too many stories of how they were so sweet to the families/children, etc., and then for no reason they kill a child or another dog. I'm glad this story came out as I have a small dog and was thinking about taking her to the dog park. Well, I've changed my mind. I'll just stick to walks in the neighborhood.
March 10, 2009 at 9:06 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
southerngrace (anonymous) says...
It is not just pitbulls..dogs are dogs ..they do what comes naturally...I love animals but I walk with a spray..my little one was attacked by a mastiff.....if any of you watch the dog whisperer you dog ..it is not the dog it is the owner ..I am sorry for the loss of the dog but let's not blame the dog ...it is the owner that did not have control of the dog (pitbull) ..we all think our precious dogs won't do "that" ..I do not take my dogs to dog parks and stay away from off leash areas ...even the most gentle dog can become aggressive by a yipping little dog (i have 3)
March 10, 2009 at 9:11 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
wythe124 (anonymous) says...
It is unfortunate, but Pit Bulls have proven time and time again to be like a handgun in the hands of an unexperienced individual..IT WILL GO OFF AND WHEN IT DOES SOMEONE OR SOMETHING WILL GET HURT!
March 10, 2009 at 9:12 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Snapper (anonymous) says...
I agree with Xnavykat. They are very unpredictable. They should be outlawed anywhere near populated areas.
March 10, 2009 at 9:13 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Clemsurf (anonymous) says...
One of my friends had a pit bull and they raised it well. One day one of their friends came through the front door and the dog just lunged at her and tried to attack her. They restrained the dog after it bit her on the arm. Two weeks later the dog attacked their own 4 year old daughter. They killed the dog. So don't tell me that "oh I raised my pit bull well and he will never attack anyone." You don't expect your own family members to kill other people and we read about these psychos that snap all of a sudden. Tell me one reason why you need to have a pit bull. They're no good for anything except protection and there are many other dogs that can offer that.
March 10, 2009 at 9:17 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
ballyhoo (anonymous) says...
You know, I always expect a certain degree of ignorance when I read generalizations about pit bulls, but you all have really lowered the bar. Do you actually do any research on your own, or do you just take with open arms and closed eyes every piece of information that's spoon-fed to you?
The article said it's a mixed breed dog. Should every mixed breed be banned? After all, you never know what kinds of other breeds a dog might be mixed with. Maybe only purebred dogs in dogparks? After all, purebred dogs never bite or attack, right?
In any case, as ignorance is bliss, I'm sure you'll all enjoy a wonderful happy life.
March 10, 2009 at 9:20 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
IronWoman (anonymous) says...
This is what Pit Bulls are bred for. You and I can't stop what's running through their blood. I feel these dogs should NOT be allowed as pets (Yes, I know that will never happen). But I would never be in the same company with one. If I had been at that park with the young teen and Pitt Bulls, I would have left. I hate to see people walking them through PetSmart, it's Sooooo dangerous. They can 'snap' at any given moment, no matter HOW SWEET they seem to be. STAY AWAY from them, keep your kids away from them, and if you have neighbors with them, INSIST they have a huge privacy fence. Personally, I fear these dogs so much that I would not feel comfortable having them as neighbors, and would probably move. Yes, my own child was nearly killed by one when he was young, ... but I've seen and heard enough to know these are not 'pets', but trained (or not trained) killers.
March 10, 2009 at 9:24 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
gingerlatte (anonymous) says...
Posted by FiscalConservative on March 10, 2009 at 6:32 a.m. (Suggest removal)
"The article (which, by the way refers to the Maltese as a 9 month old, then a five year old "puppy") has been written with an agenda."
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Actually if you go back and reread that paragraph you'd realize they were referring to the Pit being 5 yo not the Maltese.~
Teffeteller is a better person than I. If it had been my dog, I would have beaten both the girl and her dog within an inch of their lives. This is exactly why I don't take my dog to dog parks. There are too many fools who insist on owning dogs known for aggression and think their dog would "never hurt a fly." I blame the mother who thought it was a good idea for her 17 yo daughter to take a powerful and improperly socialized dog to the park.
The dog was adopted from the Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals; who knows what the dog did or was forced to do before it was adopted by the mother and daughter. It should be put down because now it's behavior has become unpredictable. If this had been a small child, the public would be screaming for the dog's blood.
March 10, 2009 at 9:25 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
CricketsandCicadas (anonymous) says...
Do we have to have this stupid discussion every week? The Post and Courier is a sad source of news, playing to the emotions of people who all think they are experts on dogs. Pathetic.
March 10, 2009 at 9:26 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
LadyRenegade (anonymous) says...
I spent a half hour writing out logic. Then realized where I am. There is no getting through to anyone who would blame a dog for a human's mistake. There were several mistakes made here, none by either dog that they did not learn.
March 10, 2009 at 9:52 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
twa (anonymous) says...
How many times has one heard after a pit bull attack "oh they have never done that before" or something of that manner. A lab does not need to be taught to retrieve, it is natural, a pit bull is bred to fight and kill.
March 10, 2009 at 9:53 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
gobblebuckgrl (anonymous) says...
Let me just say I am sorry that this little dog was killed. I am sorry to the owners. I can only imagine how horrible this experience must have been.
I too visit the dog park often. I had a situation a few months ago where a pit bull. oh yes it was a pit bull. Would not leave my dog who was on a leash with me ALONE. It kept harassing my dog. I allowed her to snip the dog and do what dogs do to work it out but the pit would not give it a rest. It then began to try to grab my dog by the throat. As I observed the entire time the owner standing there doing nothing. He was watching me tell his dog go away and trying to get it to go away. I finally had enough and popped his dog on the head. He did not like that but I had tried to run the dog off several times as well. I told him if he would take responsibility for his pet then this would not have happened. I was being responsible for mine it was on a leash and i was working with her on some training.
I blame the owners of these pets. Yes these dogs are known to be aggressive and that means as an owner you have to take full responsibility and be on guard with them. Even if two seconds earlier it was being sweet and kind. This is not the first time this has happen to me at the Charleston County Dog Parks. I would say nine out of ten times I visit there is a situation with someones dog and a pit. Not always mine. But its funny how its always the pits. The other dogs seem to get along and work out differences on their own without having to get the owners involved or if so the owners are right there to handle the situation to calm the dogs down. The pit owners always seem to be somewhere else not paying attention to their pets and what they are doing.
I was wondering when this was going to happen at a County Park. Its situation like this that is going to close the parks down for the rest of the pet owners and we will be punished because other pet owners do not know how to control their animals.
March 10, 2009 at 9:54 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
tmi (anonymous) says...
I am writing a letter to my Congressman.
Just a couple of weeks ago, there was a similar article in the paper. I asked everyone on this blog if they had any ideas on how could we get together and get this dog banned.
It is banned in many other cities and towns around the WORLD. Why can't we have it done? There are even laws which allow the breed out in public but state that the dog must wear a muzzle when out in public.
We need to acknowledge what a vicious dog this is and what type of harm it can do whether it is an innocent dog, child or adult.
This won't be the last time we hear about this. When is enough, enough?
March 10, 2009 at 9:54 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
june (anonymous) says...
The charleston county parks should have never open a dog park period.
That could have been my child attacked by any dog. A dog at a public
park should be on the lease. Charleston county lease law should apply.
March 10, 2009 at 9:57 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
SCPDBLUE (anonymous) says...
Thats those GANGSTA dogs for, Nothin but killers.
March 10, 2009 at 9:58 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
yird (anonymous) says...
Posted by 512c on March 10, 2009 at 8:53 a.m. (Suggest removal)
personally, it freaks me out when my 2 year old human daughter is walking amongst dogs at the park, and a pit bull flashes by.
i would rip the dog apart, to save her. but, i can't be there every second... why should the pits be allowed to run around without a special training collar?
"i can't be there every second"
For a two year old? You have to be joking.
March 10, 2009 at 10:05 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
coolfreaknbeans (anonymous) says...
Just as I was reading this article, my sister called from N. Carolina. She had heard horrible screeching,yelping from a neighbors yard. Animal control was on scene. The neighbors " sweet, well socialized " pitbull went into another yard and killed her neighbors two goats.(no they don't live in the country) The owner of the goats had a privacy fenced yard. When will we put a stop to this? It doesn't take an expert to know that pitbulls are time bombs waiting to go off.
The article said, "That's good news to the Teffetellers. The couple has their own pit bull-mix and a doberman that they've trained to be social since they were puppies." Then says......" Teffeteller and Telford spoke over the phone Monday. Telford apologized and promised to get Rocket socialized and trained." WTF? Which is it? Was the dog trained and socialized or not? Somebody is full of crap. The dog needs to be killed and pitbulls need to die out.
March 10, 2009 at 10:09 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
adorecouture (anonymous) says...
A new law obviously needs to be enforced here...you must obtain a permit for the dog because of its aggressive nature, and a muzzle must be worn while the dog is outside of the home. It is a simple as that.
March 10, 2009 at 10:12 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
coolfreaknbeans (anonymous) says...
I was thinking the same thing tmi. Please let we know what you find out. I will do anything I can to help ban this breed.
March 10, 2009 at 10:18 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
wjhamilton3 (anonymous) says...
I have never seen a Lab or a Collie attack a child. Why is it so important to have pit bulls, rottweilers and these other aggressive breeds? There are plenty of nice dogs to have.
People enjoy the dog parks and thousands of dogs use them every month without problem. I've even seen big and small dogs play together without problems at these parks.
We don't allow people to walk around with Pumas for pets. You can't keep Rattlesnakes in your backyard. You can't turn your pet wolf loose on the neighborhood. Why can't we just clean this up and get rid of these breeds?
I know cocaine dealers want pets too, but they have lots of needs our society can't meet so they'll have to be disappointed.
March 10, 2009 at 10:20 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Luna (anonymous) says...
Sorry, you guys have your priorities out of whack.
Every time there is a pit bull attack posters come out of the woodwork.
But the article about homeless children in America gets no attention.....but of course I must keep in mind that the normal "right leaning" posters would rather not hear about homeless AMERICAN children.
Stick your head in the sand of a stupid pit bull attack story just like rubber neckers at a car wreck and ignore the truly important issues.
March 10, 2009 at 10:25 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
DeepBlueSea (anonymous) says...
Aggressive behavior by pit bulls and mixed breeds with pit bull in them are well documented to be more dangerous than the average large dog. As an owner this information should suggest to them that having mixed or not around other dogs, CHILDREN and adults is like pointing a loaded gun. It could always go off and does more often than any other breed. That being said the owners are always saying that their dog isn't aggressive and that this is the first time when blood is shed. Why wait for BLOOD. I was at the farmers market when a pit bull mix lunged at a toddler in an umbrella stroller. The owner managed to hold the dog back inches from the child. The next week the owner was back with the dog as if nothing happened. I asked him about the stroller and if he brought the dog back for a second chance at fame and he denied the incident took place. I guess its going to take Blood to stop this man and his this never happened before pit bull mix dog away from the public.
March 10, 2009 at 10:29 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
charlestonnative1963 (anonymous) says...
People have the right to have a pit bull and a snake, but I will avoid both at all cost. I agree with bigdresmoove that this is not front page news. Our economy has a recovery period to get over the past 8 years and our state government and two Senators love being in front of the news to tell America how WRONG Obama is and how they have handled things RIGHT over the past 8 years. Please give our state and national represenatives from SC the space. On second thought, just give me the bull from our leaders.
March 10, 2009 at 10:31 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
steelmagnolia (anonymous) says...
This is my very first post online here and I signed up because I had to say something about this.
I agree with adorecouture about the muzzle. These are aggressive dogs with a history of mauling and killing. It seems that when that happens the owners all have a similar response "I don't know what happened he is such a big baby with us and never hurt anyone". Well, unfortunately it only takes them attacking once before everyone realizes they are not big babies.....they are animals. Animals with an instinct to kill and they are so large and strong its nearly impossible to get the animal under control short of seriously wounding or killing him. Once they start the attack they do not stop on their own. And, you are not strong enough to pry him off.
Sometimes we pet owners act so silly over our pets. We baby them and dress them up, take them for rides in strollers, take them to the spa (doggy spa that is) and have them all fluffed up and perfumed. We teach them to do tricks,etc and say they are so cute and smart, and they are.
But they are still animals. I have a small Yorkie, Spike, who wears a sweater when its cold and goes to the groomer, etc. He seems to know everything I say, and like a child, chooses which command to obey and which not too. They eat food from our tables and sleep in our beds!!
BUT, Spike is an animal. And as an animal, he also has that instinct to kill predators "as he sees them" and attack. You might wonder what a Yorkie could attack....but each summer it seems that some garden variety snake makes its way onto our shaded cool patio. The poor snake doesn't stand a chance. Little Spike will pounce so fast that neither I or the snake knows whats going on till its over. He shakes them just as the pit bull shook the puppy, and there is no way I can get him to stop once its started. Its his nature to do so.
I think it would be very foolish to think that putting up a fence would stop the attacks or hold them at bay. These dogs will jump a fence easily. Next time they may go after a child and I don't think the City/County government wants that type of incident on their hands. Let it be said that they were forwarned here. These animals either need to be required to wear a muzzle and kept leashed or forbidden at the park. I think it needs to be posted on signs as a warning and criminal action taken on the owner if something happens.
We need to wake up folks. We love our pets, but they are animals and not little babies. We know that certain breeds have a specific "nature" and that is often the very thing that attracts us to adopting such an animal. If we don't know about pit bulls (and mixes) etc. then its time to wake up! Next time it might happen to you or your child and we don't want that to happen.
March 10, 2009 at 10:41 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Mgoblue57 (anonymous) says...
ok for those of you who are talking of banning this breed lets do some factual learning here. 1. Pit bulls were bread as working dogs. 2. it is a proven fact that bull dogs, german sheppards, and dobermans have a higher tempermant that pitbulls, and get this one poodles do too. 3. they are highly sought after theropy dogs in utah, california, and texas. 4. they are used in every state as k-9 officers. those are 4 of many reasons to why people should realize its the deed not the breed. heck i could train a wiener dog to kill if i wanted too, but i dont and thats the point. those to whom would like to own/raise a pitbull should have to meet a certain criteria before obtaining the dog. such as a background check and things of that nature. all i am saying is before you judge the dog look at the owner, its like a child, when a child misbehaves the first one you look at is the parent, because as we all know the childs behavior is a direct reflection of the parents raising ability. as for the person who said cocaine dealers want dogs too, i take high offense to that seeing as i have nothing to do with cocaine and nor does my dog so think before you make an arregant statment and profile a dog/person.
March 10, 2009 at 10:45 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
scrisn (anonymous) says...
the only good pit is a dead pit... this is the second article in as many weeks.. wake up and smell the dried blood
March 10, 2009 at 10:54 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
mienliebte (anonymous) says...
I do agree that there should be some regulated control of who can own "aggressive" breeds of dogs, so that they understand what they need to do to keep animals and people safe. If you're going to own an aggressive breed, you should also figure the cost of insurance as well. That's being responsible. You're not doing the breed any favors if your ignorance causes anothier person or animal to get injured or killed. Also, the dogs people tend refure to as pitbulls are any breed that has the "look". Do some research and you might just be supprised.
Agressive breeds aren't just pitbulls and rotweilers. They're also small breeds like dachshunds. They might not weigh in at 50 to 100 pounds but when they bite, it's usually children and almost always in the face. Of course, because they're small people tend to be more forgiving because the child likely did something to cause the bite, rather than accusing the owner of having a "killer" on the loose. If the owner had researched the breed, they might have been aware that they were asking for trouble when they let little Jimmy play unsupervised with their little angel. In other words, the cute jack russel chasing the the ball next door might be the next "killer" to bite but we won't hear about it because it's not news worthy.
As for the oppinion that all "pitbulls" need to be destroyed and they're owners are criminals, you're showing your ignorance and not helping your case at all.
ANY dog has the potential to cause injury. It's the owners responsibility to be aware and apply common sense.
March 10, 2009 at 10:54 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
coolfreaknbeans (anonymous) says...
First of all, pitbulls were never, at any point "bread". Were they wheat? Rye? For the record, no one here made an "arregant statment". You, my friend, fit the bill of the typical pit owner. Thank you for proving my point.
March 10, 2009 at 10:57 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
jeanne40love (anonymous) says...
I have never been to a "dog" park. I would never let my german shepherd dog run free around other dogs. I don't understand the whole concept of "dog" parks. That being said, my dog is a therapy dog and has passed K-9 good citizenship class.
I have occaisionally taken my dog to walk ON LEASH with the german shepherd dog club at hampston park on Sunday mornings. None of these dogs are ever off leash.
Dog owners, regardless of the size of your dog, regardless of your dogs breed............ please think before putting yourself, your pets and others safety in jeopardy!
March 10, 2009 at 10:58 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
da9 (anonymous) says...
I'm so glad that no humans were injured. It's definitely a misfortune that the dog perished. I'm just curious as to why they had to make it known that the dog that attacked the smaller dog was a pit bull? It could've been any dog; my pit was bit by a golden retriever at the Mt. Pleasant dog park at Boone Hall and it didn't make head lines. Either way, I commend O'Rourke for not banning any specific breed-KUDOS! My thoughts are with the Bibble's family.
March 10, 2009 at 11:02 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Larz13 (anonymous) says...
I once had a neighbor save his cat from a pit bull with the help of a 9-iron. Wouldn't you know it, the pit bull's owner gets some sleazy (I know, repetitive) attorney to sue the cat owner. Long story short the cat owner prevailed but had to spend over $2000 to defend himself.
FYI--most homeowners insurance policies have riders that deal with pets and large dogs specifically. Most homeowners either don't read them or lie on the application which would justify the cancellation of the policy (along with refusal to pay claims) in one of these attacks.
March 10, 2009 at 11:05 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
NoHate (anonymous) says...
Here we go again!!!!! You people make me sick. I've had pitts and I am not a DRUG DEALER, THUG, NOR A DOG FIGHTER. I'm a mother of 3 that doesn't trust outsiders around my home. My pits are treated as if their my own flesh and blood. I wouldn't trade them for the world. It's so sad that these dogs have been put in the spot light because of bad owners. Pit Bulls gets more attention than repeat sex offenders, murderers, and rapist. A human being can rape a 5 year old and wreck that childs life forever and he's let out with a slap on the risk of don't do it again. People get real!!!!!! Stop going after the dog but make the owner pay for it. I will agree that to have a dog park is a stupid idea and or large dogs should not be allowed. This was not news at all. Pet owners know you raise your pets as you would raise your child and only you can be responisble for your child/pet. These dogs are very loving animals and require extensive obedience training if you don't have the time and patience to train then this type of breed is not for you. Lets focus on what the real problem are in America because this is not it!!!!!
March 10, 2009 at 11:10 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
pck5 (anonymous) says...
512c, you should NOT be letting your 2 year old daughter walk around amongst dogs at a dog park. That is a terrible idea. Before we bought a house and had a yard we used to take our Samoyed to the JI county park. It would drive me absolutely crazy when adults brought their young children there. It's not a people park, it's a dog park. And it's filled with dogs you don't know. It always struck me as terribly irresponsible.
March 10, 2009 at 11:10 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
chasnfish (anonymous) says...
I totally agree with many comments here. I would NEVER bring my dog to a social event at a park, or to a dog park BECAUSE I am not positive of how she will behave - THAT IS THE MARK OF A GOOD PET OWNER! I am keeping her safe as well as others! I have not been back to JI County Park since an incident occurred at their Cajun Festival years ago - they allowed dogs to the event and there were children everywhere running around - and LOTS of dogs. I saw a few fights, and then, in a circle near us a little girl was attacked by a dog that was brought there by someone that wasn't even the dog's owner! Her defense was that how was she supposed to know that the dog would bite anyone!!!
I agree with the posters saying that dog parks are a bad idea - they are our family members, but dont have the same need to play with others they dont know - and if your animal is like mine, is is very protective of me and certainly doesnt like anyone else being loved on by her momma. So I would NEVER put her in that situation - and ask for that kind of trouble!
March 10, 2009 at 11:33 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
RTC (anonymous) says...
pck5, that was my first thought when I read that comment. They are called "dog parks" for a reason. Young children are easily knocked over by romping dogs, and it irritates me that people get on their high horse when this happens.
I am glad to now have a nice, secure fenced yard for my dogs and no longer utilize dog parks at all.
March 10, 2009 at 11:37 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
gobblebuckgrl (anonymous) says...
To the person that said there should be no dogs parks because of kids safety issues. You act as though these dogs are running crazy on the whole park. That is so not the case. This area is designated for the dogs and dog owners.If you you take a child to a dog park you are responsible for keeping and eye on the child. I don't let my niece run wild with the dogs. She has to stay with in a certain distance with me and she must ask permission before she pets just any ones pet. I also don't allow her to play in the middle of the packs of dogs. We have rules another words when we go and she is with me. This area is not designated for the kids its for the pets to be able to run and get that energy out.
The dogs are not running wild around the park. Once you step out of this designated area the dog is to be back on a leash. Charleston county leash law would apply in this case because this area is a designated area for dogs and it is fenced off. The bottom line on this matter is that the owners of dogs need to be more responsible for their pets and their actions. I am not a fan of the pit bull breed and have never had a good experience around them whether full blooded or mixed breed. They have that killer instinct. They constantly in play go for the throat of other dogs at the dog park. This is why I keep a close eye on my two dogs and if it even remotely seems like its getting ready to get bad I remove my two from the picture. I don't want what happen to this dog to happen to mine. I am taking responsibility for taking care of my own since every encounter i have had with these dogs the owner do not take responsibility of their dog. Just like I said earlier in my story with mine being on a leash and the pit harassing mine and would not go away after I continually tried and the owner sat and watch me. He then wanted to call foul when I took matters in hand and popped his dog and told him to go away. You would have thought I beat the dog. Which was not the case. But I am not going to sit there with mine on a leash and allow his dog to keep putting his mouth around my dogs throat. That is a sign of aggressiveness.
I think some more creative measures need to take place to make the dog park safe for all dogs and dog owners before something like this happens again.
March 10, 2009 at 11:38 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
CaptainX (anonymous) says...
I love the commentary whenever this happens. All you posters who want to ban the breed and yadda yadda need to do your research first. My wife and I have a Pit Mix (even then we're not sure) and he was a rescue. He has since received a canine good-citizen award, been apporved as a therapy dog and has many obedience certificates. This is also along with our basenji-corgi mix and our pure bred australian shepard. Is he an absolute sweetheart? Yes. Does he bark when he hears people in my yard or at the door? Yes, all three actually run to the door. Why? Because we have kids come over our fence into our yard, we've had teenagers fighting in our front yard, we have the children next door go up to our fence and bark back. These are all stimuli that upset animals. We have never trained (and most definately have disciplined) any sign of agressive behavior in ALL 3 of our dogs whether it's barking at strangers to food agression between themselves.
THAT IS WHAT RESPONSIBLE OWNERS DO. We don't take our PURE-BRED Australian Shepard (just like a collie) to the dog park because she likes to chase and herd smaller dogs. We've had our other two attacked by mastiff's, Goldens, jack russels at the dog park before just as we've seen owners bring 6 week old puppies to the park.
My wife trains dogs and has had many celebrity clients and she has told me that most dog behavior is a direct result of the owner's interactions. You have parents that let toddlers run around freely at a dog park and chase dogs, you're gonna have an incident soon enough no matter the breed. THESE ARE ANIMALS. THEY HAVE A 30 SECOND MEMORY SPAN.
Another thing, do any of you know what a "pit-bull" looks like? It's not one dog but a group of dogs lumped into one category. Bet you didn't know that???
Can't wait to see what idiots come out of the woodwork to comment.
March 10, 2009 at 11:57 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
2dogs1bear (anonymous) says...
My grandchildrens' maltese attacked me the last time I visited, he almost licked me to death. It was a close call.
It seems to me so many pit owners are in denial about the breed's characteristics and try to force their views and their dogs on other people. I don't know the answer. Perhaps a hefty fine on owners whose dogs attack would help make dog parks safer.
March 10, 2009 at 12:03 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
crankyyankee (anonymous) says...
I've got a pet alligator that I think I'll take to the park. Anyone with a pit bull want to meet me there?
March 10, 2009 at 12:05 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Mgoblue57 (anonymous) says...
Captain x i totally agree with you on the people not knwoning what a "Pit Bull" looks like. there is no one true blood line for pitbulls its a variation of stafford shire terriors. as for the man saying i fit the bill of a pit bull owner, i guess i do, except the whole drug slinging part of it. i do like a protective dog thats not a crime. how bout the next time a snake attacks a human or a gator we kill off there breed? heck lets do away with lions, tigers, and bears while were at it? ill do you one up the next time a person hurts somebody lets just banish there relatives from society seeing as there related to a "dangerous" person?
March 10, 2009 at 12:07 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
1BOXER1PIT (anonymous) says...
First of all BPFROM843 and scrisn you both are dumb asses!! All you pit bull haters just need to quit jumping to conclusions. You need to educate yourself about pits before you go talking and making yourself look stupid. People are going to make a big deal out of this because it was a pit. If it was another type of dog would they? No.
March 10, 2009 at 12:07 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
ace777 (anonymous) says...
why does the owners of the pit bull feel bad? whatever.i wouldn't be so forgiving i would sue the pants off of those people!!
March 10, 2009 at 12:07 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
scrisn (anonymous) says...
Blah blah blah a couple weeks ago when that pitt attacked and killed a poodle everyone came to the rescue and said please don't hate this breed it's the owner, the up bringing, whatever but not the breed. Now aagin a couple weeks later another dog death due to a pitt. I have seen in the paper during that time all those dog attacks not being from a pitt breed. ohh wait there hasn't been any.. duhhhhh
March 10, 2009 at 12:08 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
gobblebuckgrl (anonymous) says...
Responsible DOG OWNERS! It comes down to being responsible.
March 10, 2009 at 12:10 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
CaptainX (anonymous) says...
There are over 4 million dog bites a year in the US, you only ever hear about it when it's a "pit-bull".
I want to know, am I the typical pit-bull owner?
I have a 4 year Bachelors Degree, I own a house, I have a job, I'm a courteous neighbor, I don't do drugs, I'm almost 30. A ton of celebrities own pit-bulls and you think they are about to deal with a dog attack?
My mother was attacked by her neighbors dog that was a small mutt-like mix. She is terrified of dogs now but she loves mine.
Here is some research that MOST OF YOU should've done if you are worried about ANY dog attacks.
http://www.americanhumane.org/about-u...
http://www.postalworkersonline.com/do...
I'll start a new argument, how about we ban/destroy all people related to Confederates? After all they were trained to fight/kill and killed over 110,000 Americans. They are still hostile to this day and you never know when they are going to "bite". Hahahaha
March 10, 2009 at 12:19 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
scrisn (anonymous) says...
1boxer1pitt... dumbass explains what and who you are.
My nephew was killed by a pitt in 89 in longbeach california when a neighborhood pitt got out and attacked him and his mother in their backyard. They were playing and she was gardening when he ran up charged and grabbed my 4year old nephew by the throat. The Pitt severed the juggler almost instantly. Then when the mother tried to pull it off it attacked her scarring her for life. over 160 stiches later and surgery after surgery later and houndrad of thousands in medical bills, and funeral costs they lost all they had. She was so bad she wasn't even able to attend the funeral.
WHY? because the owner of the pitt filled bankruptcy and dropped of the grid. The dog was around kids and never had any issue before this. So tell me a Pitt will not kill for no reason and I will call you a liar. Please do so. I would love to send you pics of the scars, and my nephew before he was mauled to death. Then look at your Pitt and wonder what it would be like if your dog attacked and killed a 4 year old child, and mamned a woman for the rest of her life because she and he was in their own backyard playing and gardening.
PLease I beg you challenge me on this. Do you have kids? how would it feel to lose one because of the stupidity of what soemone beleives?
March 10, 2009 at 12:20 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
iceman1978 (anonymous) says...
Ok. Weren't we having this discussion just last week???
Remind me again why anyone thinks we should keep pit bulls legal?
March 10, 2009 at 12:21 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
IslandGirl83 (anonymous) says...
gobblebuckgrl: Were you are the JI Park? I saw the same thing happen several friday's ago when we were coming in the park. The couple in front of us still had their dog on a leash and a pit bull came up and started biting it. This same pit bull kept harassing my 8 month old GSP the whole time we were there. I never could identify the owner.
Some owners simply let their problem dogs go at the park and do not monitor their interaction with the other dogs. I understand that dogs are dogs but when I am at the park for 2 solid hours with a pit bull continually harassing my dog with no visible owner, there is a problem with the owner!!
My dog is very hyper and plays hard so I would be happy if the smaller dogs were separated but I would still be concerned for my own dogs safety within the large dog area.
March 10, 2009 at 12:33 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
pelicanwoman (anonymous) says...
Many have wondered why this type of story gets so much attention and other stories have not...I think the possibility of this kind of thing happening is a fear everyone can relate to and understand. Not to say homeless children isn't important, but face it, many people have no concept of that issues. They do, however, have a concept and/or experience of an attacking dog.
People want to take their dogs everywhere - even when it would have been better for the dog to be left at home (for instance in the heat). I've seen them jump out of windows of cars in parking lots, seen them at Fairs and concerts, and other places where they will mix with large crowds. I love dogs and have owned my own, but they are after all, animals, and they may act unpredictably and suddenly.
My sister in law once let a child take her German Shepard to a park and it bit a girl who was just talking to the child, who could not hold it back. That's like letting a 12 year old who can't see over the steering wheel drive a car.
March 10, 2009 at 12:39 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
UrGatorbait (anonymous) says...
The only two reasons a person has a Pit Bull dog is either:
1. it is used for dog fighting, or
2. for the protection of the owners' drug stash.
This breed of dog has NO business in any civilized society.
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And your reason for existence is what?
March 10, 2009 at 12:42 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
lovealldogs (anonymous) says...
I have a pitbull mix and take her to JI County Park frequently. She is a very submissive and gentle dog. She loves to play with all the dogs and I always closely watch her. Okay, if you want to ban my dog from the park, then all of you with your biting Chihuahuas, Pomerians, Beagles, etc. should be banned as well. What a bunch of ignorance!! And crankyyankee I bet my dog would fun from your gator. Educate yourselves people!
March 10, 2009 at 12:53 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
gobblebuckgrl (anonymous) says...
Islandgrl my encounter was several months ago but it probably was the same dog and same owner. He simply did not care until I popped his dog on the nose and told it to go away. I had to do something. My dog was becoming very upset and uneasy. Mine is a rescue dog and has gone through some tough stuff and I am trying to socialize her and get her used to people and dogs. But to have a dog that is harrassing you like that and I dont blame the dog I blame the owner who stood there from the point I walked into the gate walked to the beach with my dog on a leash and a very slow walk at that because his dog was getting in my way and my dogs way for us to walk. He just stood there on his damn cell phone watching this and wants to call foul when I finally took matters into my own hands.
My dogs too are larger and I am all for seperating small from large but it doesnt solve my problem with the aggressive dogs and the irresponsible dog owners. Hey things happen at the dog park. My wet dogs will get someone wet by jumping on the picnic table but I move quickly to correct the problem and to appologize and if I dont move fast enough i dont get mad when someone corrects my two for their bad behavior. But I dont have to fear that my dogs will put their mouth around another dogs throat but I do watch them closely. My male ecspecially with smaller dogs he loves them to death but he forgets his own strength with them in play. So I watch him closely so he doesnt play too rough. I also allow the dogs to work out their differences but it goes way to far when a dog is harrassing. My female is constantly being harrassed by the pits at this park when we go. It get so bad that she comes to me and stays right next to me when the pit starts acting that obsessive behavior of not leaving her alone and wanting to grab her by the throat. Thats when I have to call it quits and leave. Because you cant find the owner to come pull their dog off of that nipping my dogs heals and then going for her throat. My female doesnt even socialize with the packs at the park she usually will run with one dog who is willing to chase and play or she will run by herself. But for whatever reason she is a pit magnet they come to her and start that obsessive behavior. I still dont blame the dog I blame the owners. It shows the irresponsiblity at the park though because most of the owners dont clean up after their dogs. The bags and trash cans are there for a reason as well as the rules posted. So I blame the owners for their dogs behavior. It comes down to your responsibility and yes if your dog is harrassing mine and you dont do something about it and I have given you plent of time to come correct the behavior I will pop them on the nose just as I expect mine to be corrected when they dont listen and I dont come correct mine.
March 10, 2009 at 1:03 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
1BOXER1PIT (anonymous) says...
SCRISN
I'm sorry to hear about what happend to your family. But, for you to think that all pits are the same is not fair. I only hope you do not stereotype people like you are doing them. They are not all the same just like not all people are the same. Yes, I do have kids. And challenge you? I'm not going to argue with someone as closeminded as you.
March 10, 2009 at 1:04 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
ballachulish (anonymous) says...
scrisn.
I'm sorry your family has had to suffer because of a GD pit and it's irresponsible owner...
This isn't rocket science, if you have a "notorious" breed, put a muzzle on it when you go out, don't have kids or visitors at your house, and be fully insured.
Yes, other breeds can bite, but pits can kill.
March 10, 2009 at 1:08 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
saraha (anonymous) says...
PIT BULL POEM
Their love is like no other, their heart as pure as gold.
Yet while going on a friendly walk, they're faced with stares of cold.
They're so very close to human, in how they act and what they do,
Unless you've known their devoted love, it's impossible to explain to you.
They are greatly more misunderstood, than any other breed.
We tend to punish this loyal dog, Instead of mankind's deeds.
They are always and forever clowns, with a wish for center stage.
Yet while displaying this sense of humor, most people disengage.
They, oh, so want to make new friends, and run and jump and play.
Yet when they happily approach, most people shy away.
Often I've seen children poke, or hop on for a ride.
And when I felt they might get mad, they've only beamed with pride.
I've seen these children yank and pull, with nary a reaction.
Yet media's not interested, unless they've put someone in traction.
When other dogs have made the news, this breed's name they affix.
But when this brave dog saves the day, they call him "Boxer mix".
They love to snuggle up real close, to give lots of loves and kisses,
Yet they suffer more than any, from unfair prejudices.
Their tails wag hard and hips twist, too, more so than other mutts.
So those of us who know the breed, we call them "wiggle butts".
What animal do I speak of, Whose love is so unique?
If you've truly known one, you know of whom I speak.
There is no creature on this Earth who will ever make you merrier.
The animal I do speak of, it's the American Pit Bull Terrier.
Author Unknown
March 10, 2009 at 1:10 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
coolfreaknbeans (anonymous) says...
ballachulish- Thats the point I brought up on a previous pit article. Someone said, " well poodles bite!" So what?! I'll bunt kick a fn poodle. A bite from a pit can and usually is a death sentence because it never stops at one bite. I just can't grasp why someone would want to own a pit bull. Why would you wanna own dog, that even if the chance is slim, could kill you or someone else in an instant without forewarning?
March 10, 2009 at 1:19 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
ballachulish (anonymous) says...
Barf,
The Martyred Dog Poem, please make it an epitaph.
March 10, 2009 at 1:21 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Mgoblue57 (anonymous) says...
Urgatorbait? ur-ignorant and thats that. imagine in some place far far away that maybe just maybe a human would want a dog such as a pitbull for a reason other then drugs and violence? how bout i want a boxer for boxing purposes and a doberman pincher for pinching? i mean dude u make no sense and need to own one before u make a judgement on an animal that did nothing but do what its been trained to do its whole life be it good or bad.
March 10, 2009 at 1:29 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
saraha (anonymous) says...
Just for you ballachulish:
American Pit Bull Terriers
You made me what I am today, courage at its best.
You wanted me to know no fear, a cut above the rest.
Not only did I master that, I've thrown in loyalty, too.
Look past my eyes into my soul, you know I'd die for you.
I'll watch your kids, I'll watch your house.
Your praise will be my crown,
ask what you will-I'll do my best.
I'll even be your clown.
But some of you don't like me, I'm sure I don't know why.
The only thing I'm guilty of is courage, love, and try.
But still they want to see me go, they want my breed to end.
Will I see you sitting idly by? You, whom I call a friend?
You made me what I am today, you never saw me waiver.
I've done my best to keep you safe. Won't you please return the favor.
-Author Unknown
March 10, 2009 at 1:30 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
edwardh1 (anonymous) says...
Dog owners always say:
He never got out before
or
He never bit anyone before
March 10, 2009 at 1:31 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
ballachulish (anonymous) says...
cool,
Yes, we agree, ain't that sumpin'!
Maybe you'll come out from the dark side on politics as well!
Kum Bah ya, y'all!
March 10, 2009 at 1:35 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
BrandyWK (anonymous) says...
Of course, I feel sorry for both families. But I know the family of Rockett, who attacked the little dog. This dog has NEVER done ANYTHING like this before. The dog even lives with 4 other cats in the house. My children have been around this dog. The owners are also very involved in animal charities & absolutely LOVE all animals. You just never know when a dog is going to do something like this. Our dog (who has since passed away) was a full bred Boxer, known for it's gentle nature. He, too, out of the blue, tried to attack a small neighboorhood dog years ago. Fortunately, the dog recovered. You just never know, regardless of the breed or how well the owners train the animal. My heart goes out to everyone in this very unfortunate situation.
March 10, 2009 at 1:36 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
ballachulish (anonymous) says...
Please stop the bad poetry, that enough warrants all pit's be put down and their owners muzzled.
March 10, 2009 at 1:37 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
saraha (anonymous) says...
Hey ballachulish - At least you have a sense of humor - haha!
March 10, 2009 at 1:40 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
FinallyME (anonymous) says...
WOWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW, SLOW NEWS DAY!!!!!!!!!!!
March 10, 2009 at 1:45 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
walleyedwoman1215 (anonymous) says...
Luna posted: "Stick your head in the sand of a stupid pit bull attack story just like rubber neckers at a car wreck and ignore the truly important issues."
If your child was mauled by a pit bull or your pet was killed by a pit bull, this would likely be an important issue in your life.
Don't try to tell people what's important to them. You'll lose every time.
March 10, 2009 at 1:56 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
UrGatorbait (anonymous) says...
Perfect article for the poop and crapper an its faithful followers , our other resident dog "experts', and kudos to our resident tough guys who just will shoot anything.
You guys and the Poop and crapper need a bogey man or a bad guy to belittle. Good job.
Oh and mgblue I think you like ya know like need to go back to like school and improve your like reading comp dude, mkay man?. Concepts like sarcasm and disbelief that people would make such a stupid statement as I quoted in the post you jumped on, are apparently above your level.
March 10, 2009 at 1:58 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
UrGatorbait (anonymous) says...
Perfect article for the poop and crap an its faithful followers , our other resident dog "experts', and kudos to our resident tough guys who just will shoot anything.
You guys and the Poop and crapper need a bogey man or a bad guy to belittle. Good job.
Oh and mgblue I think you like ya know like need to go back to like school and improve your like reading comp dude, mkay man?. Concepts like sarcasm and disbelief that people would make such a stupid statement as I quoted in the post you jumped on, are apparently above your level.
BTW mgblue, I have two rescue pits...so dude I think like ya know better like well, ah, re-engage your brain cell and ask questions before sticking yer head in neither regions when making ass-sumptions.
March 10, 2009 at 2:01 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Tammie (anonymous) says...
Sad story all around. That pitbull could have easily turned and jumped and killed someone's child. I won't go as far as to say kill all pitbulls but the owners do need to be held accountable for their actions. That Maltese was too precious.
March 10, 2009 at 2:01 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
geekboy (anonymous) says...
Posted by 1BOXER1PIT on March 10, 2009 at 12:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)
You need to educate yourself about pits before you go talking and making yourself look stupid.
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Complied by Richard H. Polsky, Ph.D., CAAB
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According to the American Medical Association, dog bites are the second leading cause of childhood injury, surpassing playground accidents.
Dog bites to people of the male gender are approximately two times greater than the incidence involving females.
Dogs that are licensed with an identifiable owner are implicated in the vast majority of dog bites (compared with strays).
Dogs not known to the victim account for approximately 10 - 20% of all reported dog bites.
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention document that a chained dog is 2.8 times more likely to bite than an unchained dog.
Canines not spayed or neutered are three times more likely to bite than sterilized ones.
Of the estimated 4.7 million people who were bitten by dogs in 1994, 800,000 sought medical care. Of these, 332,000 needed treatment in emergency rooms, and 6,000 were hospitalized. The average hospital stay for a dog-bite injury was 3.6 days.
The majority of dog bites to adult humans are inflicted to the lower extremities followed by bites to the upper extremities including the head, face and neck. For children, 77% of dog bite injuries are to facial areas.
From 1979 to 1996, dog attacks resulted in more than 300 human dog bite related deaths in the United States. Most of the victims were children.
Approximately 20 people die every year as a result of a dog attack in the United States. By far, the majority of the victims are children.
The breeds most often involved in fatal attacks are Rottweilers and Pit bulls.
In the United States, pit bulls make up one to three per cent of the overall dog population and cause more than 50 per cent of serious attacks.
Of the 27 people who died as a result of dog bite attacks during 1997 and 1998, 67% involved an attack by one dog; 19% involved an attack by two dogs; and 15% involved an attack by 3 or more dogs.
From 1979 to 1998, at least 25 breeds of dogs have been involved in bite related deaths. Pit Bulls and Rottweilers were involved in more than 50 percent of these incidences.
In a study reported by a retired professor from California State University at Chino, Robert Plum, it was found that one dog in 55 will bite someone seriously during the course of a year. With respect to breed differences in the tendency to inflict serious injury, Plumb estimates that when a pit bull bites a human, one in 16 (e.g. 1/16) will inflict serious injury; this contrasts with a ratio of 1/296 Dobermans, and 1/156 German shepherds.
March 10, 2009 at 2:01 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Mgoblue57 (anonymous) says...
urgatorbait.....well um like i totally would like for you to know that you totally like outed yourself on being either, 1. A dog fighter or 2. a dealer because as you stated a couple of coments back that the only people who have these dogs are for that reason? so which are you? dealer or fighter?
March 10, 2009 at 2:06 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
olliewolliedog (anonymous) says...
The idea that people think a dog should stay at home chained in the yard or locked in the garage it's entire life is not cruel but bizarre. Dogs have the right to be out in public and dog parks were created for dogs and their "responsible" owners as an outlet for all their engery that they stock up while we are at work all week. The parks are fenced in and therefore leashes are not necessary. If a person chooses to take their child into the fenced area of a dog park, they need to realize that their child could be knocked down by other dogs or possibly bitten if they are not familiar with the appropriate way to approach an unfamiliar dog. As many of us educated people know, pit bulls are not the only breed of dog that can exhibit aggressive behavior. If you do not like the idea of a dog park, then don't go. If you don't like dogs, don't own one. And last but not least....those of you who seem to think you know all there is to know about dogs...get a life.
March 10, 2009 at 2:10 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
coolfreaknbeans (anonymous) says...
lmao @ ballachulish! I'm with you man. If I read another dumb a** pit poem, I'll puke. Here's mine. LOL
I'm a lonely pit with nothing but kibble to eat
When you lay at night I'll try to maul your feet
You will remain loyal, even as I bite your head
You think that I'm sweet and gentle,I really want you dead
You are an ignorant fool, as everyone can tell
Living in this single wide is truly doggie hell
Put down your Marlboro Reds and try to think of me
I'm sick of roaming a trailer park to find a place to pee
Maybe one day you will finally comprehend
I'm a vicious animal and not your damned friend
March 10, 2009 at 2:13 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
scottmcx (anonymous) says...
How did this stupid animal article get to be the "lead" in the local news on-line? This is as bad as Channel 5 news. People get shot or robbed the same day and they lead with a stupid pet "abuse" story.
BTW, if one of you had killed or injured the attacking Dog,. defending your dog, you'd be on Channel 5 tonight with the SPCA on your a**.
If my property fails to perform, I reserve the right to put it down.
March 10, 2009 at 2:14 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
MonicaBee (anonymous) says...
I have a 3 year old, 102# dog. He's neutered, vaccinated, microchipped, well socialized with people & animals, and lives indoors w/my cats & other dogs. He is a canine good citizen and a registered therapy dog. On his visits, we see elderly folks in assisted living facilities as well as children at local hospitals. He adores his job, and the people he visits adore him; in particular, we visit a stroke visit who has lost use of the right side of their body. My dog picked up on this, and positions himself on that person's left side so that he can be petted. This person would love on and pet my dog all day long if I had the time to stay, and my dog would revel in the attention. He has been in training since he was a puppy and will continue this for the rest of his life. As for me, I am blonde with brown eyes, and of average height and weight. I'm a proud American citizen and I work hard every day for my money, and I do it legally.
My dog is a rottweiler. Prior to reading that word, did you think poorly about he or I? I'm not a junkie, nor am I a gangster. The only addiction I have is to my pets... (oh, and celebrity gossip blogs. I can't help it!!) My dog was also attacked three times by a golden retriever, and ran like hell to escape. Fortunately, no harm was done, and there was no negative media hype about this vicious golden retriever attacking my feeble rottweiler. While I didn't intentionally choose my dog, I have always admired this breed. They are beautiful and versatile dogs, excelling in herding, carting, K9 work, agility, obedience, and pet assisted therapy. There's nothing they can't do.
While I feel for the owners of the maltese, I also want to reiterate that people are entering these places at their own risk. There is a different mentality when dogs are grouped together in an enclosed area , and I'm not a fan of dog parks because of situations like this; a dog can be a perfect specimen at home but again: there's a different mindset at the park. It has nothing to do with the offending dog being a pit bull mix. Any breed dog that has any type of prey drive may attack a smaller dog.
In my life, I've met hundreds of dogs; I work with them for a living. Pit bulls are generally the best of them. They're overall very kind and affectionate. I personally know a handful of pit bulls that are therapy dogs now. These dogs are not vicious killers. I've been bitten or snapped at by twice as many Labradors or golden retrieves than I have pit bulls, and I can't even count the number of chihuahuas, cocker spaniels, dachshunds or miniature pinschers that have bitten me out of nowhere.
Before you begin bashing a particular breed of dog, or stereotyping its owners, take into consideration that what you're doing is being prejudice. Responsible pet owners are out there; I'm one of them!
Try Googling "pet assisted therapy rottweiler" or "therapy dog pit bull". You might be surprised by what you see.
March 10, 2009 at 2:15 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
sandnateater (anonymous) says...
brandywk,
what do you think of rocket now? Knowing what you know now about this dog and after this behavior...will you let your children around this dog?
March 10, 2009 at 2:21 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
GG (anonymous) says...
When my daughter was young she went with her grandfather to the dog pen to watch him feed his bird dogs.
Without her stepping into the pen, one of the dogs still jumped at her at the gate and nipped at her cheek, breaking the skin.
I immediately took her to the hospital for stitches.
He immediately got his shotgun.
I took care of my daughter, and he took care of his dog.
Animals that bite once unprovoked will do it again. No need to have them around children and other animals after that. Period.
March 10, 2009 at 2:22 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
UrGatorbait (anonymous) says...
Hey mgblue, like I quoted the statement from Nativeson, because this fine message board doesn't have a quote feature, hence the long line of x's under it. My comment is underneath it.
Here's the original dude:
Posted by NativeSon on March 10, 2009 at 4:41 a.m. (Suggest removal)
The only two reasons a person has a Pit Bull dog is either:
1. it is used for dog fighting, or
2. for the protection of the owners' drug stash.
This breed of dog has NO business in any civilized society.
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^^^^^^See I added the X's^^^^^^^ and if you look at the header info in the reposted post, you can see who posted originally it.
Again, my witty retort is under the xxxxxxxxxxxxxx's understand? or do I need to break out the crayons?
It was a bad that this happened to that little dog. I don't take mine to CC dog parks because the parks are usually dirty and full of fleas. I keep mine under control, very aware of what they are capable of even though they are house dogs and have never attacked anyone. They are walked, exercised, and well taken care of. I don't condone people who fight dogs. They are pond scum. It's the gangstas, wanna be's, irresponsible owners and other social misfits that have given this dog a bad name.
Hope that answers you deeply thought out and probing question mgblue.
March 10, 2009 at 2:22 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
sandnateater (anonymous) says...
monicabee,
if you had to be bit by a dog, and the two you had to pick from was a pit bull or a poodle, which one would you pick and why? Be absolutely honest!!!
March 10, 2009 at 2:23 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
lovesdogs (anonymous) says...
Dog Parks should be banned, not Pit Bulls. Does it really make sense for a whole bunch of dogs that have not been properly introduced to be cooped up in an enclosed area? And the people in who take there dogs to the dog park are obviously TOO LAZY to walk their dog themselves or losers that don't have any friends with a dog to set up play dates with. I would NEVER take my pit bull to the dog park, not because she's not trust worthy (she's a therapy dog who works with children, and also a surrogate mom to the many litters of puppy's that I foster) but because of all you crazy haters out there that think ALL pit bulls are monsters. Its just not true. Some might be killers, but not mine. I am a happy normal young marine biologist who happens to own a VERY well trained, behaved and socialized pit bull. Does she really need to be taken from me? Because thats what a breed ban would do.
March 10, 2009 at 2:23 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
blah_blah_blah (anonymous) says...
it is the breed!
my 85lb Golden Retriever never attacked anyone!
March 10, 2009 at 2:28 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
my_comment (anonymous) says...
ok -- maybe a strecth but just for conversation -- "There was some confusion initially because the phone number she gave to Teffeteller was off by a digit." Is that another way of saying this IRRESPONSIBLE dog owner - or the IRRESPONSIBLE dog owner's daughter tried to prevent anyone from reaching her??? If the daughter is not the owner (and how could she be because you must be 18 to adopt from the SPCA (mistake #1)) than an adult (over the age of 18) should have been present with the dog (mistake #2), OR maybe the daughter was there to prevent a law suit when, not if, something happened.
and pit, pit-mix, whatever. if it mauls like a pit ...
March 10, 2009 at 2:28 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
SummerGirl (anonymous) says...
Regarding vicious dogs at dog parks: Just play it safe, people! If a dog of disreputable breed or behavior arrives at the dog park when you're there, LEAVE! What are you waiting for? If, when you first arrive, you see such a dog, LEAVE! Do not enter the dog park. It's really that simple.
Rules at the local dog parks all dictate that aggressive dogs are not allowed, and that non-aggressive dogs which become so should be promptly removed. Most people don't read, much less follow, the guidelines. Some months ago I was forced to take my dog home when a pit bull (American Staffordshire Terrier for the purists) owner and her dog arrived at the park. She announced--amid laughter--upon entering that her dog liked to play rough. I immediately leashed my dog and left the park, but not before hers had locked its forelegs around my dog's neck and "playfully" lunged at his throat. Since that time we will only visit the park with my husband in tow...he's the one with the concealable weapons permit.
March 10, 2009 at 2:28 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
sandnateater (anonymous) says...
lovesdogs,
you are a perfect example of an irresponsible pit bull owner. that thinking of "not my dog" is exactly what the problem is with you people. But let me thank you for not bringing your dangerous dog to the dog park. One less killer and idiot to deal with.
March 10, 2009 at 2:30 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
saraha (anonymous) says...
Very well said "lovesdogs". And add to that people who bring their small children to the dog park - just an accident waiting to happen.....
Yes, lots of haters out there and ignorance.
March 10, 2009 at 2:30 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
gobblebuckgrl (anonymous) says...
Lovesdogs just because you don't use a dog park don't dare call me lazy and a looser that doesn't have friends. Many people meet there friends there. I walk my dogs daily at least three miles if not more. For you to put me in a class of being lazy and a looser you are no different than anyone else on here on hating all pits. You on here bashing us who use the park but yet you don't want your breed of dog to be bashed. It comes down to being a responsible owner.
March 10, 2009 at 2:33 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
MonicaBee (anonymous) says...
Honestly? I don't want to be bitten by any dog, and I try to keep myself out of situations that may entail a bite.
Either breed you singled out will cause trauma, albeit to varying degrees.
Is it fair to compare a 40# dog to a 10# dog, or are you suggesting my faux bite will come from a standard poodle?
March 10, 2009 at 2:34 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
BrandyWK (anonymous) says...
Addressing Sandnateater: When our own dog attacked another dog years ago, we did not get rid of our dog. And guess what...we didn't get rid of our children either. So, make your own assumption as to whether we would let our children around Rockett again. And why does everyone keep saying "Pitbull"? This dog is a mix breed, rescued at that. When rescuing dogs from the SPCA or any other organization, can you absolutely be sure of what mix you are getting? I know someone who had to get rid of their WEINER dog because it nipped at their baby's face. And another friend whose cat scratched her infant's face because she was playing. All of this is like trying to predict the future. Don't take your animal of any kind out of the house because you, too, could be in either of these people's shoes. Does that sound logical? I think not. It was just an unfortunate ACCIDENT all around. Statistically speaking...teenagers cause the most accidents & deaths while driving. You all are ready to kill off all Pit Bulls (mix, in this situation) because of "statistics". Well, then, that's it...take away all teenagers licenses because something MAY happen. Give me a break!
March 10, 2009 at 2:36 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
SpongeMunkie (anonymous) says...
I know it is irrelevant, but it makes me wonder what type of toys the pit has, or if it has a habit of destroying stuffed animals. Was this a vicious attack or did it go into "play" mode and accidently kill the poor little dog? Its said to not let your dog chew on your old nasty shoes, because he will chew on your good ones, they don't know the difference. If some of his toys are small and fluffy and fast moving (like being thrown), then the little dog running might have triggered the chase, catch, chew response. And unfortunately, he "broke" the "toy"... like he's maybe broken or destroyed other toys. Just a theory.
March 10, 2009 at 2:36 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
saraha (anonymous) says...
Sadnateater,
Isn't "You People" a prejudice term??
March 10, 2009 at 2:36 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
gobblebuckgrl (anonymous) says...
Well put summergirl.
March 10, 2009 at 2:37 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
my_comment (anonymous) says...
summer girl - great advice!
i hope our park visits will coincide. my hubby only has a 'permit' for golf clubs to protect our little fur-child! i wonder if someone would have been there with a gun would it have been legal to shoot the killer dog?
March 10, 2009 at 2:39 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
gobblebuckgrl (anonymous) says...
Saraha tell me where sandnateater said anything about prejudice? Where did his comment talk about being or not being prejudice? Lovesdog doesn't want people talking about her breed of dogs but yet she is being prejudice to anyone who uses a dog park. She is the one that is contradicting herself and statements.
March 10, 2009 at 2:42 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
gobblebuckgrl (anonymous) says...
People it comes down to responsible pet owners!!! You take responsibility for your kids and their actions you need to take responsibility for your dogs actions. Just because you are at a dog park doesn't mean you let the dog do what it pleases. Even though its off the leash your are responsible for the pets actions and you must remain in control of that dog at all times. Any breed. IF you can not control your dog by command you have no business being at the dog park with the dog until that dog is properly trained and will respond to your commands.
March 10, 2009 at 2:47 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
my_comment (anonymous) says...
oh, and for those that would like Mr. O'Rourke to hear your opinion: Phone: 843.762.2172. E-mail: torourke@ccprc.com (it's public domain)
March 10, 2009 at 2:49 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
highclass (anonymous) says...
I interupt these posting of crazy comments for a brief moment of clarity.I tried to stay away from this article as long as I could stand it. As a owner of a maltese and 2 pits I am outraged at some of these comments. My pits have lived with my maltese for 5 years without any problems. In fact my maltese is the pack leader among the dogs. As a good pit owner my dogs are exercised daily and are trained in a loving manner to insure proper behavior. With that being said I do not take my dogs to dog parks, not because I am afraid of what they might do, but because I know that no matter what the truth is my dogs will be blamed. I love my dogs too much for that. I now return you to the crazy comment section that is already in progress!
March 10, 2009 at 2:51 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
disgustedcitizen (anonymous) says...
NOHATE. Funny, these people make you sick, you own pits and wouldn't trade them for the world. But hey, you're an educated, literate human being. That's why you chose the username you have. NOHATE. Mmmhmm. If you don't have a rap sheet, I'm the King of England.
coolfreaknbeans, you, my friend, are a man after my own heart. You are one funny f*cker!
CrankyYankee, all I have to say is AMEN! Maybe some of those pit owners will take you up on your offer and your pet gator can have a nice snack!
March 10, 2009 at 2:51 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
MonicaBee (anonymous) says...
How does a username such as NOHATE indicate a rap sheet? Wow, the assumptions being made now are remarkable. You're reaching now, and it's pathetic.
March 10, 2009 at 2:57 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
tmh32 (anonymous) says...
Breed does not matter. I've personaly helped raise 2 pitts and both were a couple of the greatest dogs ever. Sometimes you just cannot tell when a particular animal will react badly to another. But here is the bottom line: The one dog killed the other. another thing to consider is that pets are more like family to the people that oen them (well, most anyway) Criminal charges should be brought against the operson who was SUPPOSED to be handling the attacking animal/ That person is 100% responcible and hsould pay the price. If that dog had killed one of my dogs i would execute it on the spot No questions asked and god help the owner if they interferred.
March 10, 2009 at 2:59 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
SummerGirl (anonymous) says...
I think someone already mentioned this, but it bears repeating: Bad Rap, a pit bull advocacy site, advises against taking the breed to dog parks: http://www.badrap.org/rescue/dogpark.cfm
DogsBite.org details why: http://www.dogsbite.org/index.php
Please think, people.
March 10, 2009 at 3:02 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
upyerwazoo (anonymous) says...
The Centers for Disease Control (CDC) published a study concerning deaths from canine attacks in 2000.[35] According to the study, between 1979 and 1998, one-third of all fatal dog attacks were caused by Pit Bull type dogs. The highest number of attacks (118) were by Pit Bull type dogs, the next highest being Rottweilers at 67.[36]
Nuff said........
March 10, 2009 at 3:05 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
coolfreaknbeans (anonymous) says...
PETA who are for animal rights to the extreme, support letting pit bulls die out. PETA. The defender of the cockroach. What does that tell you? Pits are no good, useless trouble makers.
March 10, 2009 at 3:09 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
gobblebuckgrl (anonymous) says...
Thank you upyerwazoo and summergirl.
March 10, 2009 at 3:12 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
MonicaBee (anonymous) says...
In a 20 year period, less than 200 people were killed by dog attacks, and you find that to be evidence against pit bulls or rottweilers? Are you SERIOUS?
Find and post the information about firearm, alcohol or motor vehicle related deaths in that same 20 year span and post it. I'm sure you'll find the numbers to be MUCH higher, yet I'm also sure you won't be on a forum posting the injustices of allowing people to continue driving or having a drink.
Like I said before, people are now reaching for things. It's not boding well for the people calling pit bull owners ignorant...
March 10, 2009 at 3:15 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
geekboy (anonymous) says...
"Studies indicate that pit bull-type dogs were involved in approximately a third of human DBRF (i.e., dog bite related fatalities) reported during the 12-year period from 1981 through1992, and Rottweilers were responsible for about half of human DBRF reported during the 4 years from 1993 through 1996....[T]he data indicate that Rottweilers and pit bull-type dogs accounted for 67% of human DBRF in the United States between 1997 and 1998.
It is extremely unlikely that they accounted for anywhere near 60% of dogs in the United States during that same period and, thus, there appears to be a breed-specific problem with fatalities." (Sacks JJ, Sinclair L, Gilchrist J, Golab GC, Lockwood R. Breeds of dogs involved in fatal human attacks in the United States between 1979 and 1998. JAVMA 2000;217:836-840.)
March 10, 2009 at 3:17 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
retired96 (anonymous) says...
Why should my tax dollars be used for "dog parks" and "fences for unleashed" (dangerous dogs)when when I bought and paid for my backyard fence one side at a time???
ENOUGH. ....Can't these idiots rule to ban pitbulls,etc., if the public knows and research proves their dangerous tendencies? Why not let it be a voter question as to whether and where to build these "dog parks" instead of the politicians ruling everything? If you can't muzzle and leash your dog and are too lazy to walk them or too cheap to buy your own fence, why should taxpayers put up the tab? I have personally only witnessed the dog park on the Naval base as a witness only and I was astounded that these dogs were allowed anywhere near little children playing. A children's play area is only a short distance from it and one of these vicious dogs could easily get away from an owner and hurt a precious child!Enough said.
March 10, 2009 at 3:18 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
MonicaBee (anonymous) says...
PETA is also a terrorist organization that has its own sick agenda. It's their ultimate goal to eradicate pet ownership as a whole. It's not just pit bulls. It's all dogs, cats, ferrets, birds, etc. PETS. The sweet golden retriever and the lovable Labrador... gone, if PETA had their way.
You should do more research if you are going to use these things as defense. PETA is no good.
March 10, 2009 at 3:19 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
GermanyXO (anonymous) says...
As long as pet owners demonstrate the following behaviors:
1. Ignorant of the fact dogs are wild animals, no matter the breed of dog. (who knows what behaviors the pit bull in the story was exposed to for five years before being adopted?)
2. Equates "house trained" as "disciplined" and/or "potty trained" and/or "socialized".
3. Feels complacent for own dog's safety, other dog's safety, and safety of people in a dog park--so much as to let dogs roam free unleashed.
4. Failure to understand how dogs view unknown/stranger dogs much how we view unknown persons/strangers: a potential threat.
5. and others everyone above has added.
Injuries to humans and pets, and even deaths in larger-dog attacking smaller-dog incidents will continue.
March 10, 2009 at 3:21 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
gobblebuckgrl (anonymous) says...
We arent talkingabout firarm, alcohol or motor vehicle related deaths on this page. We are talking about irresponsible dog owners who will not take responsiblity for dog attacks like this whether its pit bulls or a beagle. It all comes down to be a responsible pet owner on it all. But some may be interested in the stats people find comparing pit bulls, german shepards to beagle attacks.
So keep on posting information people find to back up or not but stick to the subject dog attacks.
March 10, 2009 at 3:22 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
geekboy (anonymous) says...
Merritt Clifton, editor of Animal People, has conducted an unusually detailed study of dog bites from 1982 to the present. (Clifton, Dog attack deaths and maimings, U.S. & Canada, September 1982 to November 13, 2006.) The Clifton study show the number of serious canine-inflicted injuries by breed. The author's observations about the breeds and generally how to deal with the dangerous dog problem are enlightening.
According to the Clifton study, pit bulls, Rottweilers, Presa Canarios and their mixes are responsible for 74% of attacks that were included in the study, 68% of the attacks upon children, 82% of the attacks upon adults, 65% of the deaths, and 68% of the maimings. In more than two-thirds of the cases included in the study, the life-threatening or fatal attack was apparently the first known dangerous behavior by the animal in question. Clifton states:
If almost any other dog has a bad moment, someone may get bitten, but will not be maimed for life or killed, and the actuarial risk is accordingly reasonable. If a pit bull terrier or a Rottweiler has a bad moment, often someone is maimed or killed--and that has now created off-the-chart actuarial risk, for which the dogs as well as their victims are paying the price.
March 10, 2009 at 3:24 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
MonicaBee (anonymous) says...
Do you guys realize what it means to ban a specific breed of dog?
It means that once pits and rotties and dobes are banned, the "bad guy" chooses another breed to use to "guard his stash" or whatever. It means that your English bulldogs or mastiffs or Labradors are next to become the "vicious breed". It means that in the future, no dog will be safe.
It does no good to punish a breed of dog as a whole; I've tried to show that. My rottweiler, and many I know, are not the vicious killers that the media portrays them as. They're big, sweet and kinda goofy. While I concur that not all rottweilers are like mine, I don't think that I or my dog should be punished because of a few bad owners. The same goes with pitbulls. It an injustice to those of us that have worked hard to fight breed specific legislation by having our pets be ambassadors for the breed.
Punish the deed done and not the breed of dog. Punish the irresponsible owners, but don't punish the responsible ones.
March 10, 2009 at 3:26 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
lowcountrydogleah (anonymous) says...
Lowcountry Dog Magazine weighs in on the tragedy. click here:
http://www.lowcountrydog.com/board/bo...
March 10, 2009 at 3:32 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
upyerwazoo (anonymous) says...
Posted by MonicaBee on March 10, 2009 at 3:15 p.m. (Suggest removal)
In a 20 year period, less than 200 people were killed by dog attacks, and you find that to be evidence against pit bulls or rottweilers? Are you SERIOUS?
Find and post the information about firearm, alcohol or motor vehicle related deaths in that same 20 year span and post it. I'm sure you'll find the numbers to be MUCH higher, yet I'm also sure you won't be on a forum posting the injustices of allowing people to continue driving or having a drink.
Like I said before, people are now reaching for things. It's not boding well for the people calling pit bull owners ignorant...
Nope not all pitbull lovers are ignorant.but there are enough that are and the breed is to lethal for something not to be done.like a few hundred dollar license plus extra for each additional dog and liability insurance policy .to a true pitbull person it wont matter but they will do what they have to to keep there loving pet.it will however cut out the thug owner and backyard breeder.backyard breeders and irresponsible owners need to be cut out period.if thats not feasible the dog needs to go.unlike some animal lovers i believe humans have and should have more rights.
March 10, 2009 at 3:42 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
BrandyWK (anonymous) says...
Hear, hear, lowcountrydogleah! Great article. Seeing how this was Rockett's FIRST time showing this behavior, I have no doubt that her owner's will now take the precautions necessary. If your dog has never shown any kind of aggressive behavior before, gets along with her fellow cats & humans, how are you to predict this ever happening? I'm sure a lot was learned during this tragic event. It's unfortunate to happen at all. But things like this do happen, unfortunately. Both parties learned a tragic lesson. Instead of placing blame, perhaps everyone can learn from it.
March 10, 2009 at 3:47 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
SummerGirl (anonymous) says...
Responsible pit owners should be FOR, not against, regulation of the breed. Since the problem dogs seem to be the property of problem owners, such regulation would negate the push for an all-out ban, no?
March 10, 2009 at 3:47 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
upyerwazoo (anonymous) says...
As for the gun and drunk reference the difference is you let a bad pit on the loose it will bite on its own.if a drunk leaves his car in the street it doesnt do anything nor does a gun fire itself.but a mean dog will go by itself and do bad stuff.
March 10, 2009 at 3:48 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
sandnateater (anonymous) says...
brandy,
how many times do these dogs have to kill before people like you learn they are dangerous?
March 10, 2009 at 3:52 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
upyerwazoo (anonymous) says...
Posted by BrandyWK on March 10, 2009 at 3:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Hear, hear, lowcountrydogleah! Great article. Seeing how this was Rockett's FIRST time showing this behavior, I have no doubt that her owner's will now take the precautions necessary. If your dog has never shown any kind of aggressive behavior before, gets along with her fellow cats & humans, how are you to predict this ever happening? I'm sure a lot was learned during this tragic event. It's unfortunate to happen at all. But things like this do happen, unfortunately. Both parties learned a tragic lesson. Instead of placing blame, perhaps everyone can learn from it.
My bro inlaws dog nipped my daughter in the head some years ago it was his first time and last .soon as i rushed from work my wife was at the e.r. i shot the sob right where he stood and he is buried in that spot today.and im happy to say he hasnt bit anyone else.
March 10, 2009 at 3:55 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
saraha (anonymous) says...
Yeah for lowcountrydogleah's posted article! I hope everyone will read this article. THANK YOU for posting it.
March 10, 2009 at 3:56 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
sandnateater (anonymous) says...
brandy,
you did not answer the question, will you allow your children around this dog again? it's a yes or no question.
March 10, 2009 at 3:56 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
lowcountrylass (anonymous) says...
This is so sad. My dog was attacked by someone's rescued dog last weekend in a dog park and had to go to the ER. He is still limping and badly cut up. If he had been a small dog, it might have ben fatal. He did not provoke it, and since he, himself is a rescue (though not an aggressive breed dog) and I keep him muzzled in the dog parks at all times. And because of the muzzle, he could not defend himself against an aggressive, non-muzzled dog and was badly injured. The owner of the other dog said that his dog came from a bad situation and he was just "trying to socialize it" at the dog park. Please muzzle your dogs at off-the-leash parks if you are unfamiliar with their history... they don't mind it and once they start running around and playing they truly forget they even have it on!
March 10, 2009 at 3:57 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
desspec (anonymous) says...
"Socialized and trained." Imagine if a PERSON had walked over and killed her little dog. He'd be in jail now ...
March 10, 2009 at 4 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Tammie (anonymous) says...
Beans...PETA, the defenders of the cockroach? Lmao You are a mess!
March 10, 2009 at 4:05 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Mon_Kie (anonymous) says...
OMG, Julie...
Biddle was the cutest puppy I have ever seen.
I am so sorry for your loss.
I know that you were doing all that you could to insure Biddle had a wonderful life.
Please accept my condolences on your loss.
March 10, 2009 at 4:07 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
deputy216 (anonymous) says...
There is no doubt in my mind,they would be picking a pitt bull up.I have two dogs that size and they are my kids.I love all animals,and this is where i draw the line.Sorry for you loss.
March 10, 2009 at 4:21 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
wucherer (anonymous) says...
Oh my gawd. One hundred and sixty-nine postings about animals. They were placed on this earth to serve a purpose and yet remain animal which at it's core is still an animal. But this only proves how selfish and self-centered a society we have become. A nation of materialistic me generation that places their human emotions upon a dog while people in our nation suffer from their fellow mankind. They are animals plain and simple while man tries to domestic these creatures we are shocked still they would be controlled by the very same people who attempt and conquer other nations based upon weaker are conquered by the strong. I'm not surprised by their killer instinct that lay inside man himself and place the responsibility which caused such actions to take place. Where is the accountability of the owner or owners which have equal responsibility in controlling their beasts of burden.
March 10, 2009 at 4:31 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
BrandyWK (anonymous) says...
Good lord, man (sandnateater), were you not able to read between the lines? Perhaps sarcasm is lost on you. Yes, I would let me kids around Rockett again. As I said before, our dog did attack another smaller dog years ago. My husband & I did not get rid of our dog. And he was a sweetheart to our children until the day he died. But we knew he couldn't be trusted again around other dogs. For that reason, his play time was only in our fenced in back yard. We were extremely sympathetic to the family whose dog he attacked & paid for the vet bill. We felt awful about it. I am not one of those people who loved their dog just as much as my own children. And I don't blame anyone for wanting to kill a dog that mauled or killed another human being, especially my kids. Hell, I'd feel the same way. All I'm saying is that this was a terrible accident that no one saw coming. But now they know. And I'm sure precautions will now be taken. I feel horribly for Julie, the woman whose dog was killed. But I also feel horribly for Rockett's family as they are wonderful people who if they'd have had any inkling of what was to come, they would never have taken the dog to the dog park in the first place.
March 10, 2009 at 4:37 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
gobblebuckgrl (anonymous) says...
Too bad that not all people with any inkling of their dogs bad behavior like an attack like this or mine where the dog kept putting its mouth around my dogs neck would take better precautions. Because I see the same dogs every time I am at the dog park with the same owners and the same aggressive behavior. Hell another poster seems to think we may be talking about the same dog at the same dog park. Too bad not every owner would take precautions like you BrandyWK did with yours. But unfortunatly they dont or refuse and the continue to come to the parks and not correct the behavior. But I as a responsible dog owner am taking measures to protect my dog. But I will say if one of these bad dogs with bad parents attack my dog or show any signs of aggression from here on out I am going to get the propere authorities involved. I will report them to the park officials to have them removed just after I remove mine from the whole situation. BrandyWk why are you typing so that people have to read between the lines anyways. Put it out speak out.
March 10, 2009 at 4:49 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Elvisfan68 (anonymous) says...
First of all ,I want to thank NativeSon and others for showing their ignorance toward Pit Bulls. I am a veterinary technician and my fiance' is a proud N. Chas. Police Officer. We do not own our pit bull,"Sasha" for dog fighting or drug activity....she is a member of our family and will be 6yrs old this year. Sadly, she is given more love and attention than many children will ever experience from their parents. "Sasha" is a proud graduate of Purely Positive Dog Training in Charleston....we go on daily walks,to dog parks ,and we also have 2 other dogs in our home and have NEVER had any problems. BUT, I also know that ANY BREED,NO MATTER WHAT,CAN TURN ON IT'S OWNER,ANYONE,OR ANYTHING AT ANYTIME. I do not appreciate you people assuming that only criminals own these dogs for all the wrong reasons. EDUCATE YOURSELVES BEFORE YOU CAST JUDGEMENT....IGNORANCE IS A LOADED GUN. I'm embarassed for you people for being so ignorant. And, for you people to say who and what belongs in a "civilized society"....show me a civilized society and then you might have a leg to stand on. The more ignorant people I meet and read blogs from the more I love my dogs.IGNORANCE BREEDS IGNORANCE. GO EDUCATE YOURSELVES TO SAVE THE EMBARRASMENT YOU WILL HAVE TO ENDURE.
March 10, 2009 at 4:55 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Swift_N_Easy (anonymous) says...
I know this family and Rockett, and trust me, I'll take my chances with Rockett before I take my chances with most people! She's a great dog and the family is wonderful. Accidents happen and do happen with just about any animal. Plain and Simple!
My condolences to the other dog owner! My heart would be broken if anything happened to my dog.
March 10, 2009 at 4:57 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Elvisfan68 (anonymous) says...
GOD BLESS THE AMERICAN PIT BULL TERRIER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
March 10, 2009 at 5 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
sandnateater (anonymous) says...
Brandy WK,
you are a moron!!! play with fire and you will get burned.
March 10, 2009 at 5:03 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
BrandyWK (anonymous) says...
Holy guacamole. I wasn't aware that I am e-mailing "between the lines". I think I'm making myself pretty gosh darn clear. Obviously, I'm not getting my point across, which is quite simple: it's a tragic situation which unfortunately ended up with the loss of a dog. My heart goes out to both families equally. All I am saying is that you cannot predict the future. But now I'm sure the proper precautions will be made. Any animal, any breed can do the unpredictable. After an incident like this, any owner should be responsible & know now what not to do. That's it. Are my e-mails that hard to understand?
March 10, 2009 at 5:05 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
BrandyWK (anonymous) says...
Oh Sandnateater...bless your heart. Now I'm a moron. To stoop to name calling just because we all have our own opinions shows the level of your intelligence. I'm a moron because I feel for both families and am just stating the fact that unfortunate things happen? Hmm...quite puzzling.
March 10, 2009 at 5:09 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
gwdc (anonymous) says...
Alright, really? If everyone is SO concerned with this, then why are you waiting until now to talk about it? If you've seen dogs get pushed around and fights happen, why has it taken you this long to bring the matter up? You could have prevented this if you had just brought the matter up before things get worse. It is a dog park, of course something like this is going to happen. And are you serious PIT BULL? CLEARLY, you can not read the mix part after that. You all read pit bull and killed and your instant reaction was to just blame the pit bull? This just shows that basically everyone on here, except for the few that have some sense about them, know nothing about anything. I guarantee you that very few of you were there and know what happened. Stories are slanted, that's just how it is. You all just believe what you want to hear and refuse to believe anything else with you and your close minded self. Anyways, why is the FRONT PAGE NEWS. Do we live in some sort of bo hickety town where nothing at all ever happens...ever? What's the difference between two dogs fighting and two children fighting? Pretty much nothing, but you dont see that on the front page of the paper everyday. If this were a "human fight" than it would be the equivelant of an adult fighting a baby apparently. Also, how is the other dog owner not to blame? She knew that her dog was playing with a much larger dog and that something could have possibly happened. Me being the owner of 3 small dogs and 1 big one, it is known that small dogs are just as nippy and can get just as agressive. The history of the pit bull MIX and the relationship it has with its owners is known to none of us, so is it really right for a few of you out there to be so narrow minded to conclude that this dog must have bad behavior and that the owners must be bad owners. This is nonetheless an unforunate mishap but dogs will be dogs, but then again people will be people, and I should know better than expect people to look at something from more than one point of view.
March 10, 2009 at 5:11 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
gwdc (anonymous) says...
Not done..
Posted by sethook on March 10, 2009 at 1:34 a.m. (Suggest removal)
With pit bulls, it's not "if, it's "when".
Is that so? Honestly, do you really think that statement is true? Do you know anything about dogs? Have you ever had a pit bull? Oh wait, pit bull MIX? I'm guessing you haven't, just guessing. It also seems you're just going by what history says and everyone else who is SO intelligent saying that pit bulls are the most agressive dogs ever. Please. Its not the breed of a dog that matters, its how the owner chooses to raise it. This just happens to be the breed of dog that you see in movies being held by thugs with big chains around their necks, trying to bite everything that passes. Humans kill other humans ALL THE TIME. is it right for me to say that YOU are a killer and its just a matter of when you will kill someone just because you happen to be another human? No. Fail.
Posted by NativeSon on March 10, 2009 at 4:41 a.m. (Suggest removal)
The only two reasons a person has a Pit Bull dog is either:
1. it is used for dog fighting, or
2. for the protection of the owners' drug stash.
This breed of dog has NO business in any civilized society.
So, if I got a body guard who would fight for me and I would use for protection you would say they have NO business in any civilized society? I mean, that is what you're saying. However, you too have failed to realize that this is a MIX dog. And who are you to say this dog is protecting the owner's drug stash? Are you SERIOUS? What are you like 15? You honestly have to revert to talking about drugs and protection because apparently you don't know a single thing about pits. You, like everyone else, are so unbelievably narrow minded that you refuse to believe anything else besides that this dog is a pit bull and a stone cold killer. So, what kind of dog do you have inside your house protecting your stash?
Posted by PluffmudHenry on March 10, 2009 at 7:48 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Pits are a f'ing menace. People that own them know this perfectly GD well and insist on keeping them as a status symbol.
And the majority of PB owners in NC are prone to vicious attacks themselves.
Put these animals down and keep them out of society.
And their dogs.
Do you honestly have to use GD and f'ing? Is your vocabulary that horrible that you need to use profanity?
And saying the dog owners need to be put down? I mean, you might as well straight up threaten them, even though you basically did. You should probably think and read more carefully before you open up your mouth and BS flows out. Yeah, went there.
March 10, 2009 at 5:12 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
sandnateater (anonymous) says...
i can't believe how stupid people are to justify this killer pit bull's actions and excusing this family for taking a chance. They are irresponsible and need to be charged. There dog needs to be destroyed. This dog is a killer and should have never been allowed to be adopted. period!
March 10, 2009 at 5:17 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
sandnateater (anonymous) says...
moron is basically the only word i am allowed to describe you...they will not allow me to really tell you what an irresponsible parent you are in the words i would like to use.
March 10, 2009 at 5:20 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
walleyedwoman1215 (anonymous) says...
As much as I despise violence, if some mutt kills my fat little pal, its owner will carry home a dead dog also.
Whether a dog attacks due to an instinctual "prey drive" or is simply crazy, the end result is the same. Motive doesn't matter when you're cradling your dead dog. Or child.
P.S. I don't go to dog parks--who knows what vermin or diseases the other dogs may carry?
March 10, 2009 at 5:24 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
512c (anonymous) says...
what would they say about my wolf...
first its the pitt bull (there is an intersection here)...
then its the hunting hounds...
who's gonna cry "stop" when you are being hauled away!
March 10, 2009 at 5:26 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
gwdc (anonymous) says...
Posted by sandnateater on March 10, 2009 at 5:17 p.m. (Suggest removal)
i can't believe how stupid people are to justify this killer pit bull's actions and excusing this family for taking a chance. They are irresponsible and need to be charged. There dog needs to be destroyed. This dog is a killer and should have never been allowed to be adopted. period!
Wait, where is there a dog? Oh wait, you mean THEIR dog. Before you start talking about other people and THEIR dogs, why don't you learn how to spell your insults and judgements of others? It really makes you look like a moron yourself.
Done. You're done talking, just stop now before you further embarrass youself. Just stop. Done.
Cancel your membership.
March 10, 2009 at 5:28 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
gobblebuckgrl (anonymous) says...
BrandyWk Yes but you are the one that stated you cant read between the lines. I am just quoting what you said. So you need to read what you are writing when attacking people and what they say back to you. You are just being repeated on what you say.
I hope proper precautions will be made but I will tell you from experience nine out of ten times they are not. You might be the one percent who has.
Unfortunaly with todays society people dont want to get involved dont want to fix things and are quick to blame others for their problems. I am not saying this family of this dog who did the attack is that way or may even act this way. But like I stated before two of us on here have experience the same situation at the same park with the same animal and owner and you see it with not only this same owner. Its called the hands off approach, no not my kid or no not my dog. Your kid must have done something or your dog must have done something. People will not take responsiblity for their own actions of whatever the case maybe and this is where the problem lies. Its not the dog its not the child its the responsiblity of the care giver.
Bottom line but unfortunatley people dont live that life style any more and I see it every day in my line of work. Excuse after excuse for their behavior of breaking laws. Quick to blame and not accept the responsiblity and accept the consiquences. It comes down to your responsibility. But people with the way things are today people arent going to help you you need to help yourself if it dont seem right smell right or taste right you need to step up and make the change. Because more than likely it isnt right. SO when the crap starts at the doggie park I leave before it gets out of hand. The first little sign that I see we pack up and leave. That is being a responsible pet owner and its unfortunate I have to be run off because my dogs arent doing anything or may not even be involved anywhere near the problem that is occuring. I still leave because I dont want to go through what this poor pet owner went through the other day.
March 10, 2009 at 5:29 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
dbeast420 (anonymous) says...
HEY............
This IIRC is the only story I posted a comment on today and I got this fro someone that obviously doesn't have the nuts to post whet they really want to say under their regular name.....
"Hello,
The user PitBullOwner sent the following message to you via www.charleston.net:
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you are a total idiot!!!!
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Was anyone else as special as I was today?????
March 10, 2009 at 5:34 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
gobblebuckgrl (anonymous) says...
gwdc are you the spelling police for the post and courier. Is this your job?
What a life to go around and find spelling errors in peoples blogs. I guess you don't have the balls to really start a good arguement about the subject at hand.
March 10, 2009 at 5:36 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
gwdc (anonymous) says...
Oh really? We didn't start a good argument? Oh that is just too bad that you refused to go up on the page and read what I wrote. It is not my fault that people feel so strongly about this but then fail to spell simple words correctly. I'm sorry I remember things from Elementary School. I apologize SINCERELY
March 10, 2009 at 5:39 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
gobblebuckgrl (anonymous) says...
Your just being stupid gwdc. Get over yourself and stick to the subject.
March 10, 2009 at 5:42 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
gwdc (anonymous) says...
You're the one who started on me being the spelling police.
OH AND BY THE WAY YOU SPELLED YOUR WRONG, IT'S YOU'RE.
Get over yourself and rethink your life
March 10, 2009 at 5:45 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Klines (anonymous) says...
We were there with our dogs when the incident took place. However, how it was described in the article was somewhat different from what we saw.
We saw the couple with a little white puppy entering into the dog run. It was a small puppy, but the couple let it run all over the place without a leash among the big dogs. It was a nice day and many dogs were there. We were just talking about why anybody would bring a small puppy like that into a place like this. If it wasn't going to be attacked, it was only a matter of time before it got trampled and seriously hurt.
The "pit bull" mix looked more like a medium sized, white, mixed dog than anything else. There may very well be pit bull blood in that dog, but we don't understand why it's even an issue here. The mixed dog was playing nicely with other dogs prior to when it happened.
When the puppy was hurt, this one elderly lady (was not the owner of either dogs) started screaming and yelling at the young owner of the mixed dog causing unnecessary chaos in the park. She was screaming "Don't bring the dog if you can't control! See what it did!? See what it did!?" Some more joined in. It was already tragic enough for what happened to the puppy, but she made it even worse. Half of the people at the park who didn't know what was happening left after that.
The puppy wasn't instantly killed and nobody tried to rush it to the vet. The owner was standing and holding the puppy and when the condition worsen, someone was trying to give it CPR. It may have died on the way to the vet, but try to get some professional help was what I would have done.
While it is true that big untrained/unsocialized dogs have no business coming to the dog run, it is also true that the puppies and small dogs that are not trained to be around big dogs should not be left unattended where bigger dogs are. You don't take toddlers and let them go free where a park full of teenagers are playing football. It's just a common sense. Many dogs have a predator instinct to a certain degree. To expect only the large dog owners to train their dogs to completely erase their natural instinct is unfair and unreasonable.
What we saw at the park was a little puppy and its owner that didn't know any better caught in a tragedy. It was also a tragedy for the owner of that mixed dog as I see it could have been any other large dog at the park that day.
I think bashing on certain breeds because of what happened is meaningless and pointless. The park's decision of setting up a separate area for smaller dogs make much more sense than banning certain breeds because of stereotype.
March 10, 2009 at 6:14 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
gobblebuckgrl (anonymous) says...
Oh wow the spelling policeman is out again. BEWARE all bloggers and text check your gramar and spelling. He or she will attack instead of sticking to the subject.
There has to be more to life than this. Oh I guess you can't make a mistake of spelling a word wrong or really not care about it because most texting and blogging you don't check or really care. I am sorry we can not be as perfect as others on here who attack people who make spelling errors. You know I have thought of my life and I have one. I am not on here attacking people for spelling a word wrong. You know instead of continuing this stupid arguement with you I will pray to God this evening for you to find some peace within yourself over this whole matter as well as just for him to be good to you. I will also pray for the family who lost a family member yesterday and may they have peace with it all. I will also pray for the family and the dog that attack and killed the other dog that they may find peace as well and figure out what will be best for the pet as well as the family. That they do not have to endure such a horrible thing again and they will seek the proper help with this situation.
March 10, 2009 at 6:28 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
frosezz (anonymous) says...
I was there and this story is completly jaded. The little dog was harrasing a good portion of the larger dogs. I had 3 dogs there and one is about a 12lbs 4 month old puppy that played with the dog Rocket for a little bit before moving on. Secondly I watcehd as a Great Dane that was there run into the dog rocket and stop it, while the little white dog kept barking and running. Also after the attack...i dont care if you think your dog is going to die or not...there was no rushing to get the dog any kind of Medical Help. Granted it did die, but I know there was no sense of urgency. Someone seemed more intent that information be exchanged. Now onto the breed thing pitbull mixes are not any more dangerous then anyother dog breed. I have seen poodles and labs get vicious. It is all on how the breed is bred, i have seen pitbulls cower in fear from the site of a chiuaua (sp? i know its wrong). It is the site of a small white animal running that causes the chase. They look like a toy to a bigger dog, heck my parents have bichons and one of them carries a stuffed white dog around that is the same size. So I must agree that there should be a small dog area and a larger do area. But come on this is news and the way it is written is a being a bit jaunted to one side of the spectrum.
March 10, 2009 at 6:34 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
rebouchard (anonymous) says...
The first sentence says it all...."as soon as she saw"...this incident was the fault of the puppy owner for taking a puppy to a DOG park. Why would you take a defenseless puppy to a dog park and allow it to run unattended and unrestrained around strange large breed dogs?
The puppy owner is right there are no bad dogs just bad owners and she is a prime example.
March 10, 2009 at 6:43 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
gwdc (anonymous) says...
Klines and frosezz, you just saved my life.
March 10, 2009 at 6:46 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
coolfreaknbeans (anonymous) says...
So.....Let me get this straight - the puppy was asking for it?
March 10, 2009 at 6:56 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
MichelleRDH (anonymous) says...
Wow, my emotions while reading the ridiculous and ignorant comments on this website range from anger to sadness for the people who right such stupid comments!!!!
I am a pitbull owner, I have had a dog killed by a pitbull and no I did not ask that pitbull to be put down bc it was my fault that it occurred! I do not do drugs, I do not fight my dog, and I do take responsibility for her training and socialization! It is sad to see that such a loyal, intelligent dog is owned by people that think they will give them a certain social status or train them to do such awful things. Yes I do agree that some pitbulls are more aggressive, but so are chows, dautsuns, and golden retrievers.
In fact I am extremely irritated that only stories of PITBULLS get in the papers. I know of a golden retriever that killed a small dog while the owners were passing on a walk, but did anyone hear of that one NOOO because the public needs drama and someone to constantly blame and sadly pitbulls are the source for their blame!!!!
I think that banning a breed of dog makes as much sense as killing an abused child (I mean with that theory if the child was beat then it will beat someone so lets just put the child down)!
I do agree that a license to own the breed is a good idea but only to protect the breed from terrible owners not to protect society from the breed! Pitbulls are terriers with the innate need to chase their prey (small white dog) so if that is something that is seen out of a pitbull or ANY breed then it needs to be addressed, but this is not a trait of just the PITBULL breed it is a dog trait! If a person feels the need to move bc of a certain breed of dog I am sure the neighborhood would be a happier place without them anyway! You might as well say that every Arabic person is going to be a terrorist so you must move if one moves in next to you!
It is sad that this dog died, I have been there and it feels terrible, but to say such ignorant comments is ridiculous! Do your research before you make yourself sound so stupid for all to see!!!!
March 10, 2009 at 7:01 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
usna04 (anonymous) says...
Ok, seriously. People hear the word 'pit bull' and they immediately associate it with attack. and why? Um....because they do???? It's ridiculously well documented. Pitt bulls are simply aggressive dogs that can snap without warning. It's kind of like - mustangs have a wild free spirit...because it's in their blood. It's nature. Mix or not, it's still running through them. I'm sure pit bulls are extremely loving animals to their owners, but precautions need and should be taken when exposing a KNOWN aggressive animal in an environment other than home.
Look, it's simple. Muzzle your pit bulls. That will seriously solve this damn debate. We all know it needs to happen, so just do it. Yes, all dogs when provoked can have a temper and be aggressive. I have a chihuahua that will have a heart attack if she even sees another dog (consequently, I don't take her to dog parks...common sense, right?) However, my dog couldn't kill my kitten if she tried.
Pitt bulls have ridiculously strong jaws and they can kill in an instant. I don't care what you do with your dog at home...that's your own business. But where there are other lives at stake of both other dogs and people, just put a muzzle on. What's the big freaking deal? Safety should come first, not your damn pride.
All I know is if that had been my little chihuahua trying to run into my arms scared to death for it's life and got killed, I would have kicked the living sh*t out of that pit bull mix.
UNACCEPTABLE.
March 10, 2009 at 7:24 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
usna04 (anonymous) says...
And we don't hear a lot of stories about golden retrievers and labs and other breeds attacking because it is extremely rare. This country doesn't have some agenda and built up conspiracy theory against pit bulls, dobermans and rottweilers. They just simply have the highest rate of attacks and we see them over and over again. I'm pretty sure not every single owner of these animals were cruel to them. So...how does that not make sense? Were they bred to fight? Um...yea! Because they are aggressive dogs. They are known to have extremely powerful jaws and have an urge to kill. Again, most owners I'm sure do all they can, but it's just not enough as was proven in this story and several SEVERAL others. It's like trying to tame a tiger. It's all about territory and a killer instinct. Its sad that these dogs have those qualities, but it's true. Should they be banned? no. They should be loved like any other dog. However, they should be treated in a completely different respect due to their repetitive and aggressive attack history.
March 10, 2009 at 7:40 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
LabradorAtticus1 (anonymous) says...
Pit bulls can be aggressive but you are a moron if you think that every dog is the same. There are chihuahuas that are extremely aggressive but they don't get the same kind of publicity as pits because they are so small. This was a tragedy, for sure, but there is no need to kill ANOTHER innocent animal. I think that is is wrong for people to say that they would have "kicked the .... out of that pit bull" as the person above me has stated because that wouldn't solve any problems - that would just be more animal abuse. You people that are posting on here about how pit bulls should be killed or banned from dog parks - I've got news for you - YOU ARE STUPID, do some research before you open your dumb, uneducated mouth.
March 10, 2009 at 7:52 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
coolfreaknbeans (anonymous) says...
Killing or kicking the crap out of that dog would do good. Who are you kidding? The best pit is a dead pit. muahahahaha That'll get you freaks going.
March 10, 2009 at 8:07 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
creeker (anonymous) says...
512c, you are a fool for taking a 2 year old to a dog park and addmititly can't watch her or him. Your a bad parent.
Last year, a german shepard in my neighborhood killed another neighbors pomeranian and chihuahua in thier OWN yard. Where was all of the news coverage on that incident, NONE because it was a shepard and not a pit.
I have been taking my pit to the dog park since it was 6 weeks old and have never had a problem, it is 100% of the time another breed causing and upraor problem at the park..
NUF SAID!!!!
March 10, 2009 at 8:14 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
saraha (anonymous) says...
Everyone needs to click on cookfreknbeans name and read all of the stupid comments that he has left on various subjects on this website. He obviously has no life and has anger issues.
March 10, 2009 at 8:26 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
tmi (anonymous) says...
LABRADORATTICUS1-
You know, I love that show Mythbusters. In fact I think I am going to get them in on this one..
Let's have them set up a scene where there are 2 mannequins and have a Chihuahua go crazy on one and a pit bull go crazy on the other and see which one comes out with the most damage!!
You did state that the Chihuahua is "extremely aggressive" and I am going to assume you meant just as aggressive as the dog you are defending.
So it would be really cool to see why we don't often hear about the taco bell dog hurting people if it is in fact as bad as you say it can be.
If they are both aggressive dogs then they should be able to do the same about of damage, right?
So, if we're stupid that would make you...
March 10, 2009 at 8:29 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
trophygirl (anonymous) says...
I have owned a variety of dogs for forty years. There are good and bad dogs in every breed. Different breeds have many traits. Some breeds have what they call a "Strong prey drive". I owned a rohdesian ridgeback that was a big baby but would never have taken him to a dog park because of his prey drive. I agree small dogs and large should be seperate, this is preventative. I also have to agree with some of the comments that this dog has proven itself has extemely aggressive. As a responsible pet owner I would never allow this dog in public ever again in fact I would probally have it put to sleep. For the people hoping their tax money is not spent on dog parks, there is alot of my tax money that is spent on things I'll never use so suck it up. To the owners of Bibble, my heart aches for you, my very first dogs were a male and female maltese. They were my children. I am sure you were a wonderful Mom and Dad and she had the "life of riley" while she was with you.
March 10, 2009 at 8:44 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
coolfreaknbeans (anonymous) says...
saraha - I have issues? lol Your the one cyber stalking me. Kinda creepy newbie.
March 10, 2009 at 8:54 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
eatmorecollards (anonymous) says...
I always thought the dog a person owns was a reflection of their personality. Its plain to see that my thoughts were correct from reading the comments of persons on here defending pitbulls.
Pitbulls are not cute, cuddly or especially affectionate compared to other dogs. In fact they are awfully frightful looking. When I see one it makes me want to avoid their company.
Why in the world would anyone want to have a pitbull breed as a pet when there's other breeds they could have? Breeds that are nice to look at, affectionate and also protective.
Does owning a pitbull make one feel more powerful? Or do pitbull owners just have a inclination for playing Russian Roulet?
March 10, 2009 at 9:03 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
upyerwazoo (anonymous) says...
Pit bulls and there ancestors were brought over in the 1800s for one thing to fight and kill larger animals.when that practice was banned.they were made to fight each other.its in their blood yes you may be able to contain it but it still there.you can be a vet tech police officer or 30 year pit owner .you can never 100%know what animal is going to do.the fact is these and several other aggressive breeds of dog cause more damage than most.mandatory muzzles when in public maybe mandatory liability insurance of a few hundred thousand something needs to be done to weed out some of the problems.Another thing anyone driving with one of those piss and shake dogs in there arms should be taken out of the car by the local police and have the living sh#t beat out of them on the spot .why dont we ship most of the homeless dogs to korea.we would have less shelters and the koreans would have more food{yes i had some over there wasnt bad}.
March 10, 2009 at 9:30 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
stonehead (anonymous) says...
For people who are a proud owner of a gentle giant pit bull, please disclose whether yours was neutered or intact. A neutered dog is known to be far tamer than intact, especially if the neutering was done in the early age. Perhaps it's not about the breed or the owners, but it's about the breed or the neutering.
If you have a gentle cat-loving pit bull, but it was neutered at 10 month. Well, that's not a real pit bull.
March 10, 2009 at 9:30 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
creeker (anonymous) says...
Pitbulls are not cute, cuddly or especially affectionate compared to other dogs. In fact they are awfully frightful looking. When I see one it makes me want to avoid their company.
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toeatmorecollards,
you are very, very misinformed. Remember PETE from the "little rasacls" PITBULL!!! One of the most handsome dogs ever. The RCA dog, PITBULL!! Go and tell me that dog looks menacing. Please take things at face value. A junkyark dog no matter what the breed is very scary and most JYD's are mutts.
coolfreakinbeans, sandnateater and several others on here just spew pure BS for the hell of it, just to get a rise out of some people. If you take their comments seriously you have fallen into the trap.
I own two pits who were both shelter rescues, 6 weeks old when I got them. They are normal helthy dogs that just love to play. They have unconditional love and return the same.
P.S. unless you look like a milkbone biscuit my dogs don't care about you......
March 10, 2009 at 9:31 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
DexterAtTheDogPark (anonymous) says...
I often frequent the Wannamaker dog park. I've seen many dogs be aggressive. Many dogs, of many breeds. But do you know what dogs tend to be the most aggressive? The smaller dogs. I was at the park on Sunday, but not during this incident. However, there was a couple with three small breed dogs and one of them was particularly nasty, going after any dog that came near it. But no one says or does anything because apparently it's cute when teeny little dogs do it. Wrong. It's just as dangerous. It puts the smaller dog at jeopardy because not all dogs take kindly to being snapped at.
I am quite confident that if it were a lab that killed this maltese, it wouldn't have made the news. But, because it's a pit, mass hysteria ensued.
I've also seen many pit bulls at the park. Most are fine. Most interact and play with the other dogs just like any other breed.
I know don't what transpired, so I won't pass judgment on the pit or the owners. A lot of things come into play when an event like this takes place.
Aggression isn't a breed trait. Any breed can exhibit aggressive qualities. ANY BREED. Pits aren't naturally aggressive. And there aren't more incidences of pitty aggression than there are other breeds. In fact, dachshunds have the highest rate of bites... I think pits are about fifth on the list. It's just that the news likes to report on pit bull attacks because they have become become such villains in ignorant people's eyes. Mid-century, pits were just another family dog. I remember as a kid dobermans were the demon dejour.
I just wish people would use some common sense, and do a little research.
March 10, 2009 at 9:44 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
coolfreaknbeans (anonymous) says...
Listen no one on either side of this debate will change the others mind. I agree to disagree. But if you own a pit, keep it to your fn self. If you wanna take that risk in your home, with your children, house guests, fine by me. But, I have experienced many, many pit owners who insist on flaunting their pit in everyones face, letting it roam freely, in their yard unleashed, because they think the dog is nice. If I wanted a pit, I'd own one.
March 10, 2009 at 9:44 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
saraha (anonymous) says...
Hey coolfreaknbeans - Since you don't own a pit bull and obviously don't know what you are talking about - why don't you get a life and do us all a favor and get off this site?
March 10, 2009 at 9:54 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
creeker (anonymous) says...
to saraha, coolfreakinbeans probably works for this rag of a paper, I read it online for free, but would never pay for it! Who ever he or she is, they are entitled to their hysterical opinion. Exploit the obivious and ALWAYS deny the facts as "right wing talking points"
March 10, 2009 at 10:04 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
coolfreaknbeans (anonymous) says...
Grow up! To the regular people who post here, you look like a fool. We all have differing views. No one should "leave this site" because someone doesn't like what the other one is saying. It's called freedom of speech idiot. What would a site be if everyone felt the exact same way? Don't be a sore loser because your lame pit bull poems didn't get rave reviews or induce tears of sadness for the lonely life or hurt feelings of the pit bull. They were all ridiculous, as are you.
March 10, 2009 at 10:16 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
upyerwazoo (anonymous) says...
OMGROTFL!
March 10, 2009 at 10:50 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
lowcountrylass (anonymous) says...
Whomever suggested this was a breed issue is not completely right. My dog was attacked by a very aggressive Golden retriever who turned around and attacked another dog minutes later, just last weekend. I am shocked by how mean everyone is one this board. Animals are unpredictable, even the gentlest, I have worked around them for years. There is some degree of uncertainty and in a free-for-all-dog run. It is up to humans to take the precautions necessary, and in these situations, look for solutions, rather than pointing fingers. Muzzles are an off the leash dog at a dog park's best friend! And having a run for large breed vs. small breed dogs is a good idea. Be considerate of how hard this must have been in all parties involved, if you have a pet yourself, you can begin to grasp how devastating this must be for everyone involved.
March 10, 2009 at 11:17 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
lameduck (anonymous) says...
GOSH.... Thousands of people are starving in Charleston area everyday, not to mention the country and the world. and one dead dog received so much more tears than thousands of HUMAN BEINGS. Dame it, what the heck is wrong with you people?
speaking about humanity. what a joke...
March 10, 2009 at 11:17 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
walleyedwoman1215 (anonymous) says...
"Another thing anyone driving with one of those piss and shake dogs in there arms should be taken out of the car by the local police and have the living sh#t beat out of them..."
God help me, I'm laughing so hard tears are flowing. ROTF!!!
March 10, 2009 at 11:27 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Mary (anonymous) says...
Let's look at this from TWO ways. First the puppy is ONLY 8 weeks old. Should not be at the park with big dogs. It would be like placing a toddler in a college football game and saying go play. Next, the dog regardless of pit or lab, probably did not mean to kill the puppy as it looked like a toy to them. Yes, it was bound to happen in the dog park, I have seen it many times. Some dog gets out and is bound to start showing agression..GUESS what people. last time is was a beagle that started attacking the other dogs!
Sorry about the loss of your pet
March 11, 2009 at 7:29 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
highclass (anonymous) says...
Scared of Pit Bulls? Do you know how many sex offenders live in your neighborhood??? With my pits to protect me and my 2 children I don't have to worry! I sleep curled up with my dogs knowing they will protect me.
March 11, 2009 at 9:03 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
smosellem (anonymous) says...
I've friends who bought a home in Goose Creek, paid the insurance, etc. But when the insurance man came to appraise the property and saw their dog, a very old part-Chow mix who was nearly blind and could only hobble slowly around, he refused to come into the yard and then canceled their insurance policy, sent them a refund and a letter explaining the dangerous dog (an assessment based purely on breed) prevented them from providing homeowners insurance.
Pitbulls are a touchy topic of conversation around here, I've learned - perhaps the only more heated topic of debate is what type of mayonnaise is best (c'mon people, really?)... When my boyfriend wanted to get a pit bull, I knew their reputation and of course was concerned. SO I DID SOME RESEARCH (how many of you rumor-mongers actually go beyond this newspaper you criticize so harshly to EDUCATE YOURSELF before spouting vitriol as fact?) and learned a lot about the fiercely loving breed.
I'm not going to sit here and purport one breed over another - in the end that's a personal choice that should, like any decision, be well-informed. However, I strongly object to the assertions that stereotype pit bull owners as either dog fighters or drug dealers. What a flippant, ignorant and completely non-constructive statement. Do you think you sound clever?
March 11, 2009 at 10:09 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
usna04 (anonymous) says...
Posted by LabradorAtticus1 on March 10, 2009 at 7:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Pit bulls can be aggressive but you are a moron if you think that every dog is the same. There are chihuahuas that are extremely aggressive but they don't get the same kind of publicity as pits because they are so small. This was a tragedy, for sure, but there is no need to kill ANOTHER innocent animal. I think that is is wrong for people to say that they would have "kicked the .... out of that pit bull" as the person above me has stated because that wouldn't solve any problems - that would just be more animal abuse.
Chihuahuas don't get the same kind of publicity because they don't have the power nor the strength to really hurt another animal, and when it does happen, it's rare. We all know they are aggressive animals, but what does it matter when they have no bite to their bark?
and um....I would kick the crap out of anything that touched my dog. Why? She's my baby. I've had her for 12 years now. You call it animal abuse, I call it a favor to society.
March 11, 2009 at 10:45 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
upyerwazoo (anonymous) says...
Posted by highclass on March 11, 2009 at 9:03 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Scared of Pit Bulls? Do you know how many sex offenders live in your neighborhood??? With my pits to protect me and my 2 children I don't have to worry! I sleep curled up with my dogs knowing they will protect me.
yes i do you can find out here http://services.sled.sc.gov/sor/
i moved where there are very little offenders maybe two within 5 miles.that should be one of your first requirements when doing research before buying a home.what if he shoots the dogs gives them benadryl in a snack to put them to sleep.i wouldn't put my or my families wellbeing based on the protectiveness of a dog.are you freaking serious.dogs arent going to stop a sicko if he or she is motivated.
March 11, 2009 at 10:46 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
jade106915 (anonymous) says...
This article is written in a much more factual light than most, I commend the author. I am sure the general public will still have a field day since they have been fed so much B.S. about Pit Bulls, but if the media had reported things in this manner, no dog would have a bad wrap.
I am still interested to know if the dog was, in fact, a Pit Bull as most people cannot identify a true Pit out of the 8 "Bully Breeds". I would like to see Charleston.net research Pit Bulls and do an article based on facts about the breed. As you can see from the public reactions and the previous articles that have been written- there are WAY more ignorant readers and commentators out there than there are Educated. Pit Bulls are a wonderful, loving, intelligent breed; they just require more attention from their owners to live up to their potential. Socialization and Training are not even negotiable if you are considering a Pit- it should be mandatory.
I think separating the small dogs from larger dogs is a GREAT idea.
As stated in between the lines of this article, this could have been prevented if both owners were keeping a close watch on their pets. When at the dog park, it requires a lot of running around, but I make sure my Pit is within ear shot at ALL times and my eyes are NEVER taken off of him for his safety and the safety of other dogs. We have never had a problem- even when other dogs turn aggressive towards him, but then again- I am RIGHT there- EVERY time. I have commented before- dog ownership is a full time responsibility.
My sympathies to the families.
March 11, 2009 at 11:25 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
upyerwazoo (anonymous) says...
Fact is dogs where brought over to work.different breeds designed for different jobs hearding, hunting ect.when we humans decided to take them as pets only is the real problem.
for every book you find that a certain breed is good some other expert is writing one that they are bad.does it matter no.to pretend they are human is a mistake they are animals and should be treated as such.the problem begins when someone addresses these are my children and brings out dogs.you ignorant f-tard that four legged furry bastard did not come out of your birth canal so give us a freaking break man.find a friend adopt a real child but get freaking real.
March 11, 2009 at 12:30 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
SCGirl0901 (anonymous) says...
After reading most of the posts, I still find it amazing that people can't see a real threat in the Pit Bull breed. My best friend, for whatever reason, has allowed her son to have a Pit Bull (no mix, full blooded). She already has 3 dogs in the family. A couple of weeks ago, her brother came over with his 2 children (6 and 4). Everyone was sitting around talking and the 4 year old started to run from the kitchen to the living room to jump on his dad's lap. The PB was laying on the kitchen floor and jumped up and started to chase the child. The dog managed to get ahold of the back of his tshirt and along with that, some skin. This is the second time the dog has shown unprovoked aggression and they still have the dog.
I'm trying to think of what the end-game has to be for some people.
March 11, 2009 at 2:08 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
2dogs1bear (anonymous) says...
SCGirl, the PB owners here reassure us your friend's PB is no more dangerous than a chihuahua, so no worry. That the PB tried to take down 4 year old only shows what an irresponsible dog owner your friend is.
March 11, 2009 at 2:18 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
SCGirl0901 (anonymous) says...
Sad, but apparently true. Needless to say, there is a rift in the family and no more visits from the brother and nephews. I'm not a nervous person, but I have to say this dogs does give me strange vibes. I try to be overly nice and keep my voice non-threatening when I'm there. Crazy, huh?
March 11, 2009 at 2:34 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
SCGirl0901 (anonymous) says...
I gotcha 2dogs1bear... a little slow on the uptake today!
March 11, 2009 at 2:41 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
bigdrewsmoove (anonymous) says...
upyerwazoo,
Please learn to use punctuation. Your poor grammar, use of words like f-tard, and juvenile posts only help to reinforce your ignorance. People may begin to take you a little bit more seriously if you at least try to present yourself as intelligent. However, after reading some of the comments on your previous posts, you have a monumental task at hand.
March 11, 2009 at 3:17 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
2dogs1bear (anonymous) says...
SCGirl, no harm meant. "Bad owner" has been the mantra of the PB owners posting on this story. I don't think your friend had anything to do with this dog going after the child. Any dog might do that, only with a PB you might have to hit it several times in the head with a steel pipe to make it let go once it latches on.
March 11, 2009 at 3:31 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
2dogs1bear (anonymous) says...
PS: I meant not "going after" aggressively or biting, but in play. No dog should be allowed to take down a child!
March 11, 2009 at 3:52 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
upyerwazoo (anonymous) says...
Posted by bigdrewsmoove on March 11, 2009 at 3:17 p.m. (Suggest removal)
upyerwazoo,
Please learn to use punctuation. Your poor grammar, use of words like f-tard, and juvenile posts only help to reinforce your ignorance. People may begin to take you a little bit more seriously if you at least try to present yourself as intelligent. However, after reading some of the comments on your previous posts, you have a monumental task at hand.
Like i give a damn! what are you the english monitor?go play in traffic.
March 11, 2009 at 4:37 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
BrandyWK (anonymous) says...
Oh, lordy! I stopped posting yesterday & it still continues. Sandnateater...now you're saying that you wish you could call me something other than a "moron" (how very grown up of you) & question my parenting. I tell you what...no one has walked in either of these families' shoes. How quick to judge everyone is. How dare you call me a bad mother. My children are my life! You have no clue as to what you are talking about. And thank goodness for the two posters that were actually there & told us what they saw. And FYI...someone on here said that pit bulls are ugly & don't understand why anyone would want them. Well, Rockett is (let me say this again) a MIX and was adopted by the family from a rescue shelter. Kuddos to them. (Some people are so particular that they will spend hundreds of dollars on a certain breed instead of saving all of the homeless animals already out there.) Not only that, the whole family volunteers their time to animal charities & probably love animals more than they do people! (After reading a majority of the posts on this thing, I can see why.) Rockett, I must say, is absolutely adorable. But I don't expect any of you extremists to understand any of this. I say again...I feel for BOTH families as this was an unfortunate ACCIDENT. Whew...I'm done!
March 11, 2009 at 4:42 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
mellajane (anonymous) says...
On Monday March 10, my two friends and i took our boxers that are 17 months old to the James Island park. We walked our boys in on the leash and proceeded to the left kinda away from the pack of dogs.. This was our first time here.A lady stopped us to talk about our boxers and immedietly called her dog also a boxer over...her boxer then barked at my dog and he barked back...now at this point it all went crazy.Six dogs attacked my boxer. Thank god for my friend he completly shielded my dog. It seemed like when i got one dog off another was there. The part that really made us very angry THOSE DOG OWNERS did nothing while their dogs attacked my dog shielded by my friend and me in between them...They were yelling at us to take our dogs off the leashes or Leave...I did not think people still were this way..We were all totally apalled..Our boxers are not aggressive dogs. In the end my friend had to pick up my 75lb. dog over his shoulder and walk it out. Still that lady,s boxer still trying to attack...All I can say is if your dog is out of control PUT YOUR DOG ON A LEASH!!!
March 11, 2009 at 6:33 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
upyerwazoo (anonymous) says...
mellajane
I take my dog to the beach and dont have any problems.plus the saltwater is good for them.but you have to haul water for you and the dog.
March 11, 2009 at 11:37 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
acaouette (anonymous) says...
I thought there was a leash law....I have been to that park a lot with my dogs and would never allow them to roam free...it protects them as well as other dogs and children in the park.....ALL dogs are unpredictable regardless of the breed
March 12, 2009 at 10:43 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
GreenvilleGirl (anonymous) says...
After reading these comments over the last few days, I thought I'd put my 2 cents in:
I worked in veterinary medicine for years. Some breeds have more aggressive tendencies than others; they include pit bulls/staffordshires, rottweilers, white shepherds, and akitas, just to name SOME the more familiar breeds.
However, I have seen other breeds become aggressive under different conditions........labrador retrievers, cocker spaniels, standard poodles, schnauzers, boxers and chihuahuas. There are many others......
In a dog park, especially if the larger dogs are not separated from the smaller breeds, dogs naturally become territorial. ANYTHING is possible. I will not take my dog(15 lbs) to a dog park if there are several larger dogs present. I've seen too many times what happens when a dog attacks another dog/cat. Instinct overrides "socialized" behavior. However, many times, the owners fail to take responsibility for the actions of their dogs. "I never thought my dog would attack another dog. He was always so well mannered and playful."
Most normal, civilized people do not think their dog would ever hurt another dog, but for God's sake, a domesticated dog is still an animal and anything is possible....even if the dog has never exhibited any aggressive tendencies.
What's so sad is this could have very easily been prevented.
March 12, 2009 at 11:34 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
somergirl (anonymous) says...
My sincere, deepest and most heartfelt remorse to both families of the resent transpired event.
As an SPCA mom myself, I know the love, time and involvement that goes into these special animals.
"Animals" I say! I think that in the mist of all our "socialization" efforts we have lost the sight of one basic fact. These are animals. God gave them teeth. They are pack hunters. Alpha is strongest. Reguardless, of how much we love them, how much time we invest in socialization or behavior modification,we will not change the undlying instinct.
It just happens, that I personally know Rocket and his family and was out of the country when this occurred. This family spends hours and days working with the SPCA projects and would never mistreat any animal. I only know the Rocket that uses your lap for a pillow or occassionally begs for a TV snack. Gives a big wet kiss and lives with a few big fat cats(literally).
We must be mindful that when we bring these wonderful animals into our lives reguardless of how much we love,train and or supervise the bottom line is they are "animals" and God did give them teeth.
March 13, 2009 at 9:58 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
jade106915 (anonymous) says...
Thank you for your post, KLINES!!!! EVERYONE should read that. I am so tired of ignorant people jumping on a bandwagon based on fantasy. All of these ignorant posts are just awful. As a previous freelance writer, I am without a doubt writing to the editor in hopes that my offer to DONATE an article on breed facts and dog ownership responsibilities.
A guilty pleasure: I walk my dog multiple times a day down town where we are in constant contact with people and other dogs. We go to dog parks regularly. People comment on how adorable he is and how well behaved - We do not receive these compliments occasionally... They are CONSTANT. When asked what breed he is, I ENJOY the shock on people's face when I tell them he is an AMERICAN PIT BULL TERRIER. It is my responsibility to keep him in this submissive state of mind ALL the time, but I love it and because of my commitment, he is a HAPPY, LOVING and very well behaved dog. As if that isn't enough, the look on your faces is worth it to me. I hope we run into one of you ignorant posters on the street, not that you would have the character to admit you were wrong, but we look forward to meeting you anyway. Haters.
March 14, 2009 at 4:45 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
myrtlebeachgurl (anonymous) says...
We were there with our dogs when the incident took place. However, how it was described in the article was somewhat different from what we saw.
"We saw the couple with a little white puppy entering into the dog run. It was a small puppy, but the couple let it run all over the place without a leash among the big dogs. It was a nice day and many dogs were there. We were just talking about why anybody would bring a small puppy like that into a place like this. If it wasn't going to be attacked, it was only a matter of time before it got trampled and seriously hurt.
The "pit bull" mix looked more like a medium sized, white, mixed dog than anything else. There may very well be pit bull blood in that dog, but we don't understand why it's even an issue here. The mixed dog was playing nicely with other dogs prior to when it happened.
When the puppy was hurt, this one elderly lady (was not the owner of either dogs) started screaming and yelling at the young owner of the mixed dog causing unnecessary chaos in the park. She was screaming "Don't bring the dog if you can't control! See what it did!? See what it did!?" Some more joined in. It was already tragic enough for what happened to the puppy, but she made it even worse. Half of the people at the park who didn't know what was happening left after that.
The puppy wasn't instantly killed and nobody tried to rush it to the vet. The owner was standing and holding the puppy and when the condition worsen, someone was trying to give it CPR. It may have died on the way to the vet, but try to get some professional help was what I would have done.
While it is true that big untrained/unsocialized dogs have no business coming to the dog run, it is also true that the puppies and small dogs that are not trained to be around big dogs should not be left unattended where bigger dogs are. You don't take toddlers and let them go free where a park full of teenagers are playing football. It's just a common sense. Many dogs have a predator instinct to a certain degree. To expect only the large dog owners to train their dogs to completely erase their natural instinct is unfair and unreasonable.
What we saw at the park was a little puppy and its owner that didn't know any better caught in a tragedy. It was also a tragedy for the owner of that mixed dog as I see it could have been any other large dog at the park that day.
I think bashing on certain breeds because of what happened is meaningless and pointless. The park's decision of setting up a separate area for smaller dogs make much more sense than banning certain breeds because of stereotype."
exactly
March 15, 2009 at 11:23 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
PitbullAdvocate1234 (anonymous) says...
Please read this, everyone. http://www.pitbullforum.com/viewtopic...
Pitbulls do not belong in dog parks, all dogs for that matter but pitbulls mainly. They are terriers and terriers as a breed were bred specifically to bait, or kill small game. Pitbulls are bulldog/terrier and Dog Aggression is very common in the breed. It's your job as a pitbull owner to do proper training/obediance(TO ALL BREEDS). Just because your dog is DA doesn't mean it should be put down, it means you have more work and responsibility to work with.
Breed bans don't work and it's a fact, after Denver, Colarado banned pitbull and pitbull look alikes there dog attack % sky rocketed 35%. Bans will not work, responsible ownership will.
"""Posted by NativeSon on March 10, 2009 at 4:41 a.m. (Suggest removal)
The only two reasons a person has a Pit Bull dog is either:
1. it is used for dog fighting, or
2. for the protection of the owners' drug stash.
This breed of dog has NO business in any civilized society."""
To say that is pure ignorance, I myself would like to learn my facts before saying or typing something. Pitbulls believe it or not are one of the most human friendly dogs on the planet. In fact they had to put rottweilers and dobermens in the yard with pitbulls because people would walk up and take them and the dog would walk.
April 26, 2009 at 2:43 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
PitbullAdvocate1234 (anonymous) says...
To say they're unpredictable. I guess it was just bad genes that my neighbors Golden Retriever ripped her 5 year olds sons face completely off. Fact is people who own dogs don't even know basic dog psychology/dog body language when they get a dog. They simply think just how it's raised everythings fine. That's simply false.
Fact: Golden Retrievers are top 3 in biters in the United States so training is mandatory when young. http://www.ygrr.org/surrender/surrend...
Fact: Type in any dog attack breed and than say maul/attack and they do just as much damage as pitbulls.
Fact: Did you know Pitbulls are the #1 bred dog in the united states. ANYTHING OVERPOPULATED IS GOING TO OPPOSE A PROBLEM. http://answers.yahoo.com/question/ind...
April 26, 2009 at 2:59 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
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