Sanford admits additional encounters with Chapur, 'crossed lines' with other women
By TAMARA LUSH and EVAN BERLAND
Updated 02:51 p.m., June 30, 2009
COLUMBIA, S.C. (AP) - South Carolina Gov. Mark Sanford said Tuesday that he "crossed lines" with a handful of women other than his mistress - but never had sex with them.
Update
The governor wrote a $2,969.58 check today and submitted it to the state Treasurer to reimburse the Department of Commerce for the travel, lodging and meal expenses from the June 2008 Argentina trip.
The governor said he "never crossed the ultimate line" with anyone but Maria Belen Chapur, the Argentine at the center of a scandal that has derailed his once-promising political career.
"This was a whole lot more than a simple affair, this was a love story," Sanford said. "A forbidden one, a tragic one, but a love story at the end of the day."
During an emotional interview at his Statehouse office with The Associated Press on Tuesday, Sanford said Chapur is his soul mate but he's trying to fall back in love with his wife.
He said that during the encounters with other women he "let his guard down" with some physical contact but "didn't cross the sex line." He wouldn't go into detail.
Sanford, 49, said the casual encounters happened outside the U.S. while he was married but before he met Chapur, on trips to "blow off steam" with male friends.
AP Photo/Mary Ann Chastain
South Carolina Governor Mark Sanford collects his thoughts as he admits to The Associated Press more encounters with his Argentine mistress than he previously has disclosed, in his office Tuesday in Columbia.
Sanford also admitted he saw Chapur more times than previously disclosed, including what was to be a farewell meeting in New York chaperoned by a spiritual adviser soon after his wife found out about the affair.
After that disclosure, South Carolina Attorney General and gubernatorial candidate Henry McMaster said Tuesday he has asked the State Law Enforcement Division to review all of Sanford's travel records to see if any laws have been broken.
Sanford said he was pleased that SLED would investigate. "There's been a lot of speculation and innuendo on whether or not public moneys were used to advance my admitted unfaithfulness," he said in a statement. "To be very clear: no public money was ever used in connection with this. We believe the best way to put those questions to rest once and for all is for SLED to ask these questions, and we plan on cooperating fully."
Sanford described five meetings with Chapur over the past year, including two romantic, multi-night stays with her in New York before they met there again intending to break up.
He said he saw her two other times, including their first meeting in 2001 at an open-air dance spot in Uruguay.
"There was some kind of connection from the very beginning," he told The Associated Press, though he said neither that meeting nor a 2004 coffee date in New York during the Republican National Convention were romantic. Sanford had been considered a potential 2012 presidential contender before the scandal broke last week.
His interview was the first disclosure of any liaisons with Chapur in the United States and contradicted a public confession last week during which he admitted to a total of five encounters over their eight-year relationship.
He previously announced he would reimburse the state for money spent during a government trip to Brazil and Argentina in June 2008 when he saw Chapur. It was then, he said, that their relationship became physical, and the e-mails they'd exchanged for years reflected their anguish over what they had done.
"Now I am frightened," he told the AP, describing his state of mind at the time. "It was before safe. But now it's not safe. We gotta put the genie back in the bottle."
He insists no public money was used for any other meetings with her.
He saw Chapur again in mid-June of this year, visiting Argentina without telling his staff he was going to be out of the country. He instead led them to believe he was hiking on the Appalachian Trail.
By the time he returned to a puzzled public, staff and family, his public image and emotional state had unraveled. He admitted the affair at a rambling press conference.
Now Sanford is attempting to salvage his personal and professional lives. He and wife Jenny, parents of four sons, say they are trying to reconcile their 20-year marriage but have not been sharing the same house for several weeks. Jenny Sanford found out about the relationship in January when she discovered a letter the governor had written to his mistress.
She did not immediately return a message seeking comment Tuesday, but she told The Associated Press in an interview Friday that her husband had repeatedly sought permission to visit Chapur.
"I said absolutely not. It's one thing to forgive adultery; it's another thing to condone it," she said.
The governor said he met Chapur in Punta Del Este, Uruguay, in 2001 after his final term in Congress and before his first term as governor. He said the two struck up an e-mail correspondence after meeting on a dance floor - a chance encounter during which he counseled her into the night about her failing marriage.
For the next seven-plus years, Sanford said, the two exchanged messages, sometimes sporadically.
They met in New York two more times in 2008: two nights in Manhattan in September and three nights in the Hamptons in November. Each time, Sanford claims he flew coach, paid for it himself, paid for the hotels in cash and told his staff he was reachable by cell phone.
"At that point I was very careful, everything was paid for in cash," Sanford said. "And you won't find a credit card record."
In early 2009, after Jenny Sanford discovered the affair, the couple went into counseling. She has told The Associated Press that he asked her several times to visit the mistress and she refused.
But the governor claims he wanted to end the affair in person and, with his wife's permission, went to New York with a "trusted spiritual adviser" serving as chaperone. The three went to church and dinner together and parted ways the same night.
But he visited Chapur again in Argentina on June 18, the trip that brought the whole affair to light.
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CNSYD (anonymous) says...
Rumors in Columbia say there are two more women.
June 30, 2009 at 11:54 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
vmirat90 (anonymous) says...
once a cheater, always a cheater...I am willing to bet there are a few more women too...
Let's face it...."Bible Mark" is a playa...
June 30, 2009 at 12:03 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Numba10 (anonymous) says...
once a name caller always a name caller
Lets face it you have nothing usefull to say
June 30, 2009 at 12:10 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
smp (anonymous) says...
if there are more women it will come out...wouldn't doubt it at this point. I want my votes back from this idiot.
June 30, 2009 at 12:17 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Numba10 (anonymous) says...
rumors blah blah blah
June 30, 2009 at 12:26 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
tallblonde (anonymous) says...
Well - since I called it right on the New York "get-togethers" ;-) I will also "predict" additional liasons with different women.
:-)
June 30, 2009 at 12:30 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
vmirat90 (anonymous) says...
wow numba..you sure brought alot to the table yourself. By the way, it's spelled useful.
June 30, 2009 at 12:33 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
CNSYD (anonymous) says...
Numba10 sez, he may be a SOB but he is my SOB.
June 30, 2009 at 12:36 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
aroberson68 (anonymous) says...
He should of kept his Genie to himself.
June 30, 2009 at 12:39 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Numba10 (anonymous) says...
well first off miscounting the number of times you met or saw someone is no big deal and certainly not rising to the level of lieing---But dems have relied on this tactic of calling any repub a liar since Bill was proven to be a liar and it burst thier bubble------next discussing rumors is called gossip---finally name calling is a waste of time---Ya'll berate back now ya hear
June 30, 2009 at 12:39 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
captivated (anonymous) says...
It's time to play "Name the movie"! I will go with "Sanford's Sojourn", although "The Governor's Groupie" sounds okay. However "The Rambling Republican" isn't too bad. But wait; how about "Mark's Mistress"? That could fly.
June 30, 2009 at 12:40 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
realman (anonymous) says...
I don't know if he should resign or not. But, if anything, he should get rid of his advisors who allow him to keep discussing it with the media. The more he talks about it, the longer it stays in the news. Not necessarily politically estute.
June 30, 2009 at 12:41 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
mp123 (anonymous) says...
Numba10 you are about as stupid as they come.
June 30, 2009 at 12:42 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
mej5614 (anonymous) says...
He lied to his wife, family, the people of SC and many others. I do not agree with cheating but at least he is now admitting. Although it is taking a long time to get all the information out of him. I still am shocked that he didn't think by going away for six days, no one would notice?
June 30, 2009 at 12:43 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
pickypete1 (anonymous) says...
Okay, enough drama already. The press does not need to continue playing this one out. Is there any real news out there to report?
June 30, 2009 at 12:45 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Numba10 (anonymous) says...
What great crisis could have befallen the great state of SC that the Govenors abscence would have proved fatal to the state?????
June 30, 2009 at 12:46 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
vmirat90 (anonymous) says...
numba- you are a shining example of why people should stay in school, and at least finish the 6th grade.
June 30, 2009 at 12:47 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
realman (anonymous) says...
If you want to discuss political parties, well how about John Edwards, Jesse Jackson, Bill Clinton, Gary Hart, JFK, Teddy Kennedy. . .does anyone else wanna play "name that dem"?
June 30, 2009 at 12:48 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
vmirat90 (anonymous) says...
real, no question- it is not a party problem- it is a power problem. It seems that these self-centered politicians are entitled to any and everything. Don't make it a democratic thing though, real. For every democrat you name, I can name a republican just as easily.
June 30, 2009 at 12:52 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
lloyd007 (anonymous) says...
THIS GUY IS A PIECE OF WORK...DISGUSTING..!!!!
June 30, 2009 at 12:53 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Numba10 (anonymous) says...
vmira--and you are a shining example of someone with nothing to say that did finish the 6th grade
June 30, 2009 at 12:53 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
realman (anonymous) says...
Excuse me, I should have been more respectful. I meant to say the "Reverend" Jesse Jackson, who, IMHO, epitomizes Democratic moral values.
June 30, 2009 at 12:54 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
wjhamilton3 (anonymous) says...
The Governor has completely destroyed any capacity he had to lead the state in a time of economic crisis. This man wouldn't be welcome to do a ribbon cutting at a 7-11 now. He obviously can't do anything about the state's sinking economy.
If Republican's want government to fail, they have certainly made a good start of it by producing a Governor who has failed in every possible way and a Lt. Governor, nominated and elected by their own party that they say is unfit to serve.
This man needs to resign, file an action in Family Court to see his sons with counseling and salvage what he can of his life. He needs to pick one woman or the other, if either of them has any use for him after he is out of office. How much humiliation must the state endure? Is there no limit.
June 30, 2009 at 12:57 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
tallblonde (anonymous) says...
Dear Governor Sanford - I'm hoping this might be helpful to you the next time you want to end an affair:
#1 - Don't travel to see them
#2 - Don't call them
#3 - Don't write letters to them
#4 - When you've met chatting on the internet - break up
on the internet (it will save you time and money)
#5 - Don't travel with your "esteemed spiritual advisor" to
have dinner & drinks with the person you're having an
affair with. Were you wanting to end the affair? or get
approval from him on the "next" Mrs Sanford?
If you want to continue the affair - disregard all of the above.
June 30, 2009 at 12:59 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
CNSYD (anonymous) says...
Numba10 you are absolutely correct. Nothing fatal could befall SC with Sanfraud missing. In fact if both Sanfraud and you went missing the average IQ of the state would have a marked increase.
June 30, 2009 at 12:59 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
adenosinetriphosphate (anonymous) says...
Seriously, everyone, this isn't about an affair or a political party. This is about habitual lying, not only to his family but to the state. He lied about needing to go to Argentina just so he could see his girlfriend on our dime. After confessing the affair, he immediately lied about how many times he went down there.
An example of something that could have happened is a serious accident at the Savannah nuclear site. A prison riot. The things governors have to make quick decisions about. It's good to know the location of the Governor; he is Commander in Chief of the National Guard with the authority to declare martial law. But, he lied about that too.
June 30, 2009 at 1 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
vmirat90 (anonymous) says...
numba, you aren't even worth my time. By the way, awesome comeback. You must have thought of that by yourself.
June 30, 2009 at 1:01 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
vmirat90 (anonymous) says...
...or Rev Ted Haggard, or Jimmy Swaggart.
See how that works? Once again, both sides of the political aisle are well represented. It is hardly a democratic/republican thing, so stop making it one.
June 30, 2009 at 1:04 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
june (anonymous) says...
I really think Jenny is nuts to consider to take this guy back. She should use
him for her personal enjoyment and let him hang himself.
He is as post a disgusting piece of work.
What makes him think any South Carolina citizen can trust anything he says
or tried to do for us? I think he should move near his mistress. Far away.
June 30, 2009 at 1:05 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Booniechic (anonymous) says...
Next thing ya know....she'll be pregnant...or Mark will be the father of the two boys she has now. Blah blah blah. Move on.
June 30, 2009 at 1:08 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Numba10 (anonymous) says...
vmira---I must be worth your time that is twice you directed at me rather than the topic--oh and thank you for showing how important what I say is to you----yuckle chuckle
June 30, 2009 at 1:12 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
goodkarmasc (anonymous) says...
State taxpayer funded vehicle to Columbia airport for cover?
$50
State taxpayer funded vehicle to Atlanta airport for trist?
$200
State taxpayer funds to Argentina for trist?
$7000
"The State" newspaper sitting on emails from Argentine lover since December indicating a loss of Free Press and SCLED not investigating indicating a loss of justice?
PRICELESS
June 30, 2009 at 1:13 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
CNSYD (anonymous) says...
Booniechic, you can't move on as long as he occupies the State House. He is the one who needs to move on.
June 30, 2009 at 1:15 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
JustJennings (anonymous) says...
It is clear we can trust nothing Sanford says. Do we really believe this is the whole truth?
June 30, 2009 at 1:15 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Numba10 (anonymous) says...
June---since you mentioned Jenny---I have a question which I know will probably not go well with most--BUT---What was Jenny doing or not doing, if anything, that caused Mark to wander?????------Blast shield deployed!!!!!
June 30, 2009 at 1:15 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
stanish (anonymous) says...
It's TRUE you have or had people in both parties who has or had infidelities. The problem with those from the right they preached MORALITY and trys to legislate how people should uphold CHRISTIAN values while they trample upon the values they are supposed to uphold! They are the ones who the Un-Christian Coalition, the Immoral Majority, and the God fearing extreme far right prides themselves upon! This FRAUD pride himself as a "Family Values" man and stood upon christian values. He is a HYPOCRITE in its truest form! He quotes bible verses and says he stands upon moral principles, but God has EXPOSED him as he does with all hypocrites so that everyone will see them exactly for what they really are! The state of S.C. has been setback ever since this FRAUD took office. He has done absolutely NOTHING for this state and S.C. Unemployment continues to run rampant! He is a LIAR and a THIEF in the sense he used hard working TAXPAYERS money to carry on this very unacceptable behavior. Remember he was SUPPOSED to be a "Watchdog" looking out for the taxpayer. What a JOKE! S.C. has gotten exactly what they deserve for ELECTING and RE-ELECTING this miserable FAILURE!
June 30, 2009 at 1:18 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
michaelene (anonymous) says...
This entire country....not just South Carolina, needs to divorce itself from the idea that someone who engages in extra-marital sex, is not capable of being a good president...or president at all.
Bill Clinton is a good example. It is apples and oranges.
Get a grip, USA. Also, consider Jimmy Carter...ever so "moral" and how this country did under his presidency.
Michaelene Gon
June 30, 2009 at 1:20 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
yird (anonymous) says...
Maybe if the governor was offered "counseling' from the "reverend" Jessee Jackson who knows all about playing around, he would at least be receiving this input from one experienced in the same conduct he himself has engaged in.
After all, the good reverend offered consolation and mild chastising to Bill Clinton in his hour of need.
The "pot calling the kettle black"?
No racial component implied even though it has been stated that Clinton was the first black president.
June 30, 2009 at 1:20 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Mabilene (anonymous) says...
goodkarma --
Priceless, indeed!
The paper and SLED are merely the arbiters of family court?
Waiting to get pictures of the tryst or something?
June 30, 2009 at 1:23 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
mb300sl (anonymous) says...
I'm tired of stories about Sanford and his mistress but I have to admit it's better than Michael Jackson stories...
June 30, 2009 at 1:24 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Numba10 (anonymous) says...
Loki--then the wife was not making him feel such a way ---so there is something she is or is not doing
June 30, 2009 at 1:26 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
vmirat90 (anonymous) says...
I nominate Ted Haggard to do the counseling.
June 30, 2009 at 1:35 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Numba10 (anonymous) says...
Loki---since you are so thrilled with me it appears you are likewise for me since you direct so much directly at me rather than the topic---
June 30, 2009 at 1:38 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
AMAZING (anonymous) says...
LIAR! LIAR! PANTS ON FIRE!
FRAUD ALERT! FRAUD ALERT! SANFRAUD ALERT!
Mark Sanford admitted Tuesday that he saw his Argentine mistress more times than previously disclosed, including what was to be a farewell meeting in New York chaperoned by a spiritual adviser soon after his wife found out about the affair.
...the governor described five meetings with Maria Belen Chapur over the past year, including two romantic, multi-night stays with her in New York before they met there again intending to break up.
He said he met her two other times - their first meeting in 2001 at an open-air dance spot in Uruguay and a coffee date in New York in 2004 during the Republican National Convention. He said neither time was romantic.
It was the first disclosure of any liaisons with Chapur in the United States and contradicted a public confession last week during which Sanford admitted to a total of five encounters over their eight-year relationship.
He previously announced he would reimburse the state for money spent during a government trip to Brazil and Argentina in June 2008 when he saw Chapur. He insists no public money was used for any other meetings with her.
He saw Chapur again in mid-June of this year, visiting Argentina without telling his staff he was going to be out of the country. He instead led them to believe he was hiking on the Appalachian Trail.
The governor said he met Chapur in Punta Del Este, Uruguay, in 2001 after his final term in Congress and before his first term as governor. He said the two struck up an e-mail correspondence after meeting on a dance floor - a chance encounter during which he counseled her into the night about her failing marriage.
The two met in New York two more times in 2008: two nights in Manhattan in September and three nights in the Hamptons in November. Each time, Sanford claims he flew coach, paid for it himself, paid for the hotels in cash and told his staff he was reachable via cell phone.
But the governor claims he wanted to end the affair in person and, with his wife's permission, went to New York with a "trusted spiritual adviser" serving as chaperone. The three went to church and dinner together and parted ways the same night.
But he visited Chapur again in Argentina on June 18, one final trip that brought the whole affair to light.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090630/a...
June 30, 2009 at 1:40 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Numba10 (anonymous) says...
Amazing sure is into the details of an affair---is that voyerism????
June 30, 2009 at 1:42 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Numba10 (anonymous) says...
Loki--interesting you enjoy being childlike--Hmmmmmm
June 30, 2009 at 1:45 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
AMAZING (anonymous) says...
Sanford contradicts himself on meetings with mistress
SURPRISE! SURPRISE!
But he told The Associated Press he had met with Maria Belen Chapur seven times, including five visits in the past 12 months.
FULL STORY:
http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/06/3...
June 30, 2009 at 1:48 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
CNSYD (anonymous) says...
Numba10, when are you going to realize that the person dragging this out is Marky Mark himself. He should just resign, ride off into the sunset and refuse to ever speak to the press. But no, he apparently loves all the attention.
June 30, 2009 at 1:49 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
OldSalt (anonymous) says...
Gosh, imagine what kind of sordid affairs the Governor would be engaged in were he not such a devoted Christian!
Seriously, Gov, we no longer want to know the sordid details just so you can cleanse in public; we just want you to go and leave the State in peace. You've done enough damage to our already shaky reputation with the rest of the country. I'm sure there is a rock somewhere on Sullivan's Island you can crawl underneath. Just don't mess up any turtle eggs when you do it!
June 30, 2009 at 1:49 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
guidedbystewart (anonymous) says...
Yep, you there into that thier voyerism!
Yee Haww Yuck Yuck!
June 30, 2009 at 1:51 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Moontree (anonymous) says...
He lied about how many times?!? I am so surprised. I thought I could believe him.
June 30, 2009 at 1:55 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Numba10 (anonymous) says...
Cnsyd--I realize it all---but what you and others dont realize is that infidelity has nothing to do with ability to be Gov----that the state is in the state it is in because of the legislature--the Gov can neither pass nor amend laws---budget nor spend money---but the people need a sole person to point to. The Gov tried to reduce debt, live within our means but this is not possible if the people are not willing
June 30, 2009 at 1:57 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
guidedbystewart (anonymous) says...
Numba10
Reading your comments is like reading the signs the cows paint in The Chick-fil-a comericals!
June 30, 2009 at 1:57 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
willbillbedamned (anonymous) says...
This dope wanted his wife to meet his mistress?? Exactly what was he thinking?? A Threesome?? He's totally taken leave of his senses and not fit to govern.
June 30, 2009 at 1:59 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Numba10 (anonymous) says...
Guide thank you---So you are bi lingual--cow and english
June 30, 2009 at 2:01 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
vmirat90 (anonymous) says...
LOL @ guided! That is pretty funny.
June 30, 2009 at 2:03 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
guidedbystewart (anonymous) says...
Yep, I am that thier bi lingual.
June 30, 2009 at 2:03 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
guidedbystewart (anonymous) says...
Eat mor Chikin!
June 30, 2009 at 2:04 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Artemis (anonymous) says...
Numba10
"I have a question which I know will probably not go well with most--BUT---What was Jenny doing or not doing, if anything, that caused Mark to wander?????------Blast shield deployed!!!!!"
It's interesting that you didn't get blasted big time for that comment....wonder why?
June 30, 2009 at 2:06 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Numba10 (anonymous) says...
Perhaps the politically correct climate is changing and people are becoming more open to the hard questions or they just chose to go ostrich.
June 30, 2009 at 2:09 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
BreezinIAm (anonymous) says...
A stiff hick has no conscience.
June 30, 2009 at 2:13 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
vmirat90 (anonymous) says...
you can take the boy out of the singlewide.....but can you take the singlewide out of the boy?
June 30, 2009 at 2:19 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
mrjm (anonymous) says...
Wonder what his version of "sex" is...the same as Clinton's?
June 30, 2009 at 2:22 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
ltgrunt (anonymous) says...
"but what you and others dont realize is that infidelity has nothing to do with ability to be Gov"
Numba, when he abandons his job, takes a state vehicle and misuses state funds to engage in his infidelity, it interferes with his ability to do his job. Whether it's base immorality or complete incompetence is a discussion for another day, but clearly he is not able to perform the duties he was elected to perform.
Ethically, he should have recognized this and resigned already, especially given the standard he set for himself by calling for Clinton's resignation years ago.
And really, Numba, trying to blame Mark's unfaithfulness on his wife? That's just downright low.
June 30, 2009 at 2:23 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
furmangirl1998 (anonymous) says...
If only Lorena Bobbit could be located to take on one last contract job, we could help out the state of SC and Mrs. Sanford.
June 30, 2009 at 2:24 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
vmirat90 (anonymous) says...
I said that Clinton couldn't do his job properly because of all of his alleged affairs, and the compromising position he could put himself in- ie blackmail, favors, etc. I feel the same way about the lovernator. Same standards should apply.
June 30, 2009 at 2:30 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
ballachulish (anonymous) says...
I vote that Sanford and Sins
June 30, 2009 at 2:31 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
ballachulish (anonymous) says...
Sorry
I vote that "Sanford and Sin" will be the title of the made for tv movie...
June 30, 2009 at 2:33 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
GG (anonymous) says...
When M. Jackson died, I imagined Sanford saying, "Thank you, Jesus. At least the press is off my case now."
But nooooo, this man gives the AP another interview and admits to more infidelities.
I have tried to understand his side because from the emails it looked like this guy really is in love with the woman in Argentine. But, Mark, there is a point where confession is NOT GOOD for the soul.
Quit talking and start working on repairing your soul and your family.
June 30, 2009 at 2:35 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
SuzieQJones (anonymous) says...
He wanted his wife to meet his mistress??? They look so enough alike to be sisters, maybe he thought they could learn to get along & he could have the best of both worlds. So much scandle for SC; not good at all.
June 30, 2009 at 2:39 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Numba10 (anonymous) says...
itgrunt---i didn't place blame --I asked a question
June 30, 2009 at 2:39 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
CNN_10 (anonymous) says...
Sanford is a player
June 30, 2009 at 2:44 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
MANDO (anonymous) says...
MARK! Teach me the ways! He wrote the old skool bible on "the game"!
June 30, 2009 at 2:45 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
vmirat90 (anonymous) says...
GG- I believe that he admitted to the other daliances because there were fixing to surface on their own. He is doing a classic case of back peddling- and I am sure that he did alot more than just "inappropriate behavior". Oh he got in their business.
That is what he means by "business development" for the state of South Carolina.
June 30, 2009 at 2:53 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
studley (anonymous) says...
"Gov. Mark Sanford says he 'crossed lines' with a handful of women other than his mistress - but never had sex with them."
Is that like "not inhaling"?
I think I saw him on Argentinian TV, shaking his left hand at the press, and saying "Yo no tuve relaciones sexuales con esa mujer.".
June 30, 2009 at 2:53 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
vmirat90 (anonymous) says...
it is EXACTLY like "not inhaling", studley. Nice comparison.
June 30, 2009 at 2:54 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
eatmorecollards (anonymous) says...
Noting that some are accusing Jenny of not taking care of things at home. I've been pondering that perhaps it was the other way around. Maybe she made him feel like the last of the red hot lovers and he started believing it.
June 30, 2009 at 2:58 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
AMH7969 (anonymous) says...
You can say what you want about Jenny but at the end of the day she was home taking care of her family while daddy was chasing skirts all over the world. It does not have anything to do with what he was or was not getting at home. I can probably guess that she had plenty of needs that were not being met ... don't ya think??? It has to do with someone not knowing how to handle that much power ... he is a narcissist. He thinks he is more than what he is ... entitled more by his position.
Does anyone on here think for a minute that had he not gotten caught he would now be back home trying to be a good husband and father. I wonder if he ever gave a second thought to how this will affect his own children. What kind of example is he setting for them and what kind of husband's and fathers are they going to end up being with him as an example? His press conferences make me want to vomit. Do you think his kids want all their friends hearing him ramble on about this so publicly!!!
He is not concerned with anything in this state except for the amount of power that is to be gained or lost in the wake of a huge, selfish mess. If his "spiritual advisor" was worth a toot he would have never advised him to choose the State of South Carolina over his own marriage and family ... much less joined he and his mistress on trip to NY ... PLEASE!!!!!
CALLING REPORTERS EVERYWHERE ... find out who this mysterious "spiritual advisor" is. I love to hear what he has to say ... or at the very least find out what his credentials are and report him to his medical or religous board for some sort of malpractice! UGH!!!
June 30, 2009 at 2:59 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
postman01 (anonymous) says...
Mark is obviously enormously intelligent. His positions on political policy questions are largely or even entirely correct 99%+ of the time.
He is clearly a man with a considerable libido. Common sense tells us this is true of anyone that has fathered four children.
So all this is a shame. Crossing the line is black and white. As long as it doesn't get physical, no actual line is crossed.
So, in conclusion, Mark is using his immense intelligence and communications skills to intellectualize and confuse the issue because he is cornered. This is a typical reaction of most people so the holier than thou crowd need only look in the mirror to see someone who would at least behave in a similar manner in an identical situation even though most of them lack the intellectual firepower Mark clearly possesses.
However, he made a huge mistake. The bottom line is that he needs to go regardless of other considerations because WE THE PEOPLE demand a certain moral standard of people in his position even though many of us can't meet the same standard ourselves. I speak as a huge fan of the man who knows him personally and has worked on one of his campaigns.
June 30, 2009 at 3 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Numba10 (anonymous) says...
Loki---what we see in his speech is a human being--a human being torn apart in his heart and soul by himself while outwardly every press dog is yapping at his heels----remember sex sells and the press loves sex scandals-----oh for the past when such was taboo not only in the persons actions but taboo by society to be discussed publicly---for as we see it serves no useful purpose--it brings down the object of discussion as well as those who lust for it
June 30, 2009 at 3 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
dabofan (anonymous) says...
...OK....has Mr. Sanford never heard of looking a gift horse in the mouth? Michael Jackson's passing knocked his cheating,lying tail from the headlines....THANKFULLY. Now, he's giving out more "emotional" interviews? What? Does he LIKE the headlines? Maybe he's using the media to send messages to Maria?? What's wrong with just letting your wife know you've met someone else, getting a divorce and moving on with the "soul mate"? Wouldn't that be better than this steamy pile??? Please Jenny....kick this dog to the curb....I have!
June 30, 2009 at 3:05 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
human (anonymous) says...
I still like the guy! Better than Hodges ever did for the state! Besides using a little money which he is paying back, who cares about his home life. Jenny still wants him back...why...HE IS THE GOVERNOR...NONE of you will ever get that far in life! Jenny needs to explore some more pleasure options...bet he wouldn't leave if she invited a friend...just reality!!!!
June 30, 2009 at 3:06 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
vmirat90 (anonymous) says...
and he deserves every bit of scrutiny that is heaped upon him. Remember: he brought this on himself. Of course I have heard some misguided folks on the radio today (the host being the king of the misguided) blaming Maria. Hey, he needs to have some willpower and self control, especially if he is representing my state. Secondly, I don't give 2 *@%$ about her- she doesn't represent me.
If it wasn't her, it surely would have been some other woman.
June 30, 2009 at 3:07 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
captivated (anonymous) says...
ballachulish- Sanford and Sins Sounds good to me!
June 30, 2009 at 3:09 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
ForPnC (anonymous) says...
Spiritual Advisers, believing in god, and having affairs isn't any kind of mix I was taught. What religion is this anyway? You recruiting members? Sounds like a helluva good time!
June 30, 2009 at 3:12 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
BetsBabe (anonymous) says...
Numba10 - It looks like you have nothing to say yourself, aside from telling everyone else that their opinions are pointless. Now that we've heard YOUR opinion (more than once), I think it'd be nice if people could have a mature discussion without your obsessive comments. Speaking of which, I don't understand what your angle is on repetitively posting:
"So you are bi lingual--cow and english"
"rumors blah blah blah"
"Lets face it you have nothing usefull to say"
"next discussing rumors is called gossip---finally name calling is a waste of time---Ya'll berate back now ya hear"
"vmira--and you are a shining example of someone with nothing to say that did finish the 6th grade"
"vmira---I must be worth your time that is twice you directed at me rather than the topic--oh and thank you for showing how important what I say is to you----yuckle chuckle"
"Blast shield deployed!!!!!"
Do you have some kind of unrequited love for Sanford, or are you simply having a bad day where you're trying to pick a fight? Or maybe you're trying to convince us of your views somehow by being insulting and immature? Not a very good tactic. If any of the above are correct, or perhaps it's something else, chiming in on a Newspaper comment board isn't going to make you feel much better (or look any more convincing).
There are ways to have a mature discussion and share your opinion, without being belittling and childish.
Btw... that second to last quote I mentioned from you is not flattering on your part, considering almost ALL of the statements you made where directed toward vmira.
It shows how important his statements are to you.
June 30, 2009 at 3:15 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
stompyourheadin (anonymous) says...
The Gov. missed his calling. He should resign and start his career his an erotic novel author. Some of the things he wrote to his mistress were so juicy. Plus he was in a forbidden love affair with an exotic woman; sounds like a best seller to me. Quit and get that money Sanford.
June 30, 2009 at 3:20 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Numba10 (anonymous) says...
betsbabe--why not post the comments also reread them that those were in response to to show the whole story---or are you just wanting to be nit picky--and show me where i defended sanford
June 30, 2009 at 3:25 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
furmangirl1998 (anonymous) says...
Can we all pitch in and purchase this man a muzzle and have it sent FED EX to Columbia so he will SHUT HIS BIG MOUTH to the press???
After he gets up and talks to the press (AGAIN)about this other woman as his "soul mate" if his wife takes him back she is a loon as well. And then he "shares" with us about other women, he is crazy crazy crazy--I don't want any further details, I want to see him resign and kicked to the curb by his wife. And he was always going to the front lines to run his mouth about others who had "sinned with adultery" and claim family values and here this fool was doing the same thing! He needs to go, HOW MUCH LONGER DO WE HAVE TO PUT UP WITH THIS IDIOT? I do not want to see another Academy Award winning Freudian press conference with Sanford crying like a little girl... I just want him to leave and stop all of this garbage.
Sanford will be the TOP TEN JOKE LIST again this evening on Letterman. Please someone get Sanford out of the office, he is crazy! Get him a one way ticket to South America to go hike with his soul mate and take your garbage with you Mark! Adios Senor Tonto!
June 30, 2009 at 3:26 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
rick405 (anonymous) says...
Just take him to the Humane Society, get him dipped, neutered and microchiped so we can find him.
June 30, 2009 at 3:31 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
eatmorecollards (anonymous) says...
I'm thinking, this would be a good time for Pat Conroy to release his new novel "South of Broad."
June 30, 2009 at 3:31 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
vmirat90 (anonymous) says...
Let him keep talking. The more he talks, the deeper the hole gets. At first, he was digging with a small shovel. Now, he's using a backhoe.
June 30, 2009 at 3:32 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
thedarkpolitician (anonymous) says...
- "Sanford said the casual encounters happened outside the U.S. on trips to "blow off steam" with male friends." -
Does this mean that old Marko was on the down-low too?
June 30, 2009 at 3:34 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Jord (anonymous) says...
Of course he has to admit to more women...they are selling their salacious narratives to Us, People and Star as I type.No doubt there will be very explicit sexual details and the weird gov's kinks as well. He's got to cover his a** now so he can deny later that the others are telling the lascivious truth. Oh, Mark, you hound dog, you!
June 30, 2009 at 3:42 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
carlosthedwarf (anonymous) says...
"Marky Mark" Sanford and the Fun Bunch. C'mon, c'mon! Feel it! Feel it! Feel the vibration! It's such a good vibration! It's such a sweeeet sensation!
June 30, 2009 at 3:44 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Marinemom (anonymous) says...
Sanford, SHUSH already. Enough is enough. My goodness, who gives a rats asp any more? You're a joke. You're making a fool of yourself, making your family look like fools and making fools out of all of us who live here. You act like we care about your affairs. You act like we care about the times you came close to crossing the line, but didn't. I believe you should participate in psychological testing/counseling to see if you're fit to continue to be the Governor of this State. Sanford, stay away from reporters. Stay away from email. As a matter of fact, just stay away.
June 30, 2009 at 3:52 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
vmirat90 (anonymous) says...
Sanford said the casual encounters happened outside the U.S. on trips to "blow off steam" with male friends." -
me thinks that blow off steam is code for something else...
June 30, 2009 at 4 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
vmirat90 (anonymous) says...
lighten up, Beavis. You butt munch.
June 30, 2009 at 4:03 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
whalernut (anonymous) says...
GET OUT OF OUR OFFICE!
June 30, 2009 at 4:07 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
furmangirl1998 (anonymous) says...
did the press check out meetings with the boy at Legare Waring house over the years???
June 30, 2009 at 4:07 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
SJC (anonymous) says...
The state should consider offering $1 raffle tickets for a chance to slap some sense into Sanford, the poster boy for state elected idiots. This would generate income for the state and give priceless satisfaction to many of our fed-up citizens. Too bad he exchanged his brains for his soul.
June 30, 2009 at 4:13 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
CNSYD (anonymous) says...
furmangirl1998, what are you saying about your fellow alum?
June 30, 2009 at 4:15 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
tallblonde (anonymous) says...
Well pop a turban on my head and call me Miss Cleo...!!!!!
:-)
as I posted earlier:
Posted by tallblonde on June 30, 2009 at 12:30 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Well - since I called it right on the New York "get-togethers" ;-) I will also "predict" additional liasons with different women.
:-)
June 30, 2009 at 4:15 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
vmirat90 (anonymous) says...
tall, you haven't really made until Dionne Warwick signs your paycheck.
Marky boy is a Furman grad?
June 30, 2009 at 4:22 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
tallblonde (anonymous) says...
AMH7969 - The "spiritual advisor" is Warren "Cubby" Culbertson...the same "spiritual advisor" that was quoted in yesterday's article as saying (or not saying):
When asked if he had met Maria, Culbertson paused, then looked up, an embarrassed smile creasing his face.
"I'm not going to comment," he said.
...and today we find out not only has he met her - but went out to dinner with Governor Sanford & the mistress in NYC....
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2009/0...
June 30, 2009 at 4:26 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
jsteph10 (anonymous) says...
Someone please advise the Governor to quit talking. Diarrhea of the mouth.
June 30, 2009 at 4:27 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
studley (anonymous) says...
vmirat90: blow off steam = get lead out of pencil.
If you had not matriculated at a military school you would know that.
June 30, 2009 at 4:28 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
katie (anonymous) says...
Governor Sanford is a jerk, he gives a terrible name to those who are true Christians...now more women?? What next??
You are an embarrasment to our state and religion, and I hate to tell you but this is a democracy and you don't get to say if you stay or not! He took OUR tax money, I don't care if he paid it back or not it was not his to spend in the first place, he left his job for 5 days and told no one where he was, if I did that at my job I would come back to NO JOB..IMPEACH SANFORD!
June 30, 2009 at 4:30 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
sareda (anonymous) says...
WHY WHY WHY WHY is Sanford giving so many details about his feelings and other women???!! Stop already! I agree with some other comments here that he either has no good PR support, or hie is ignoring. I think he wants to 1) not be married... or at least not to his current wife and 2) hopes to ride out his term in office, and 3) divorce and move to Argentina and start over.
Mrs. Sanford can handle this, the young boys can't. Someone make him first shut up, and then resign.
June 30, 2009 at 4:33 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
vmirat90 (anonymous) says...
LOL studley....we preferred the term.."catching a nut"
June 30, 2009 at 4:35 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Love2Laugh (anonymous) says...
@rick405
That is hilarious!
June 30, 2009 at 4:35 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
walleyedwoman1215 (anonymous) says...
AAAUUGHH!!
If Jenny slit his throat today I'd acquit her. This wasn't just sex, it was a love story?!? He's trying to fall back in love with his wife???
Mark Sanford, listen up: YOU ARE MENTALLY ILL. It is not within the realm of normalcy to blab such crap in a public forum.
I know what he's trying to do. He's trying to purge his soul of sin and be transparent and be accountable, blah blah blah. It makes me want to vomit. Mark Sanford, go the hell away. I am horrified that you remain governor.
June 30, 2009 at 4:36 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
gingerisler (anonymous) says...
Look, lots of men (and women) cheat. Sanford is no different than a lot of other people we all know.
Sanford has been terrible for our state ~ just look at our schools, our unemployment rate, etc. etc.
I just wish that it was something other than infidelity that brought him down.
BUT ~ I don't want Andre Bauer for Governor either.
June 30, 2009 at 4:36 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
jlovferg (anonymous) says...
Does anyone not rememeber that Mark Sanford (as a Congressman) was hard core that Bill Clinton had to resign his job because he lied and cheated on his wife?
Et tu Sanford? Where are your jibes now?
PLEASE resign !!! and Quit embarrassing the state of South Carolina.
June 30, 2009 at 4:36 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
writenow (anonymous) says...
Run Jenny Run!
June 30, 2009 at 4:36 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
aviodont (anonymous) says...
Part I of II:
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After being devestated by a man whom I have held in high regard for his sticking to his principles with matters of government (at least), I wanted to put forth a few points:
1. Unlike the liberals, conservatives, usually, do not circle the wagons when one of their own has fallen. As a result, Mr. Sanford will have calls from both sides of the aisle for his resignation. Unfortunately, some on his own "side" will do this for political gain.
2. However, I would like to know where all these principled conservatives were on election day when they voted for Socialism-Lite (McCain). Now, I understand some voted on principle like I did for a third party candidate. So, when you call for his resignation based on principle, I will agree with you. When these other conservatives who caved in on election day call for his resignation based on "principle", I ask, what principle are you talking about?
3. The point of his abandoning his post to me is a mere stretch. Do others mean to tell me that our Lt. Gov does not have the ability or bravery to step in if the governor cannot be located? Can he not act as Gov until the Gov can return? The SC Constitution, Art IV, Sect 11 states:"...In the case of the temporary disability of the Governor and in the event of the temporary absence of the Governor from the State, the Lieutenant Governor shall have full authority to act in an emergency." Maybe he only knows how to hit the cable TV circuit!
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(CONTINUED BELOW IN SECOND POST)
June 30, 2009 at 4:36 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
aviodont (anonymous) says...
Part II of II
(CONTINUED FROM ABOVE)
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4. The Gov has severely demoralized conservatives by his actions. I am sure he is suffering for this internally. He let the people of this Great State down by his actions. We the People placed our confidence in him to fight the legislature and turn them back. I feel, in effect he still owes us this. Considering the current state of affairs, how can he best deliver on his promise to us? Would that be by handing over the reins of power to the Lt. Gov? Perhaps he needs to throw himself in front of We the People and say, "I have done wrong and need to step down on principle. But to continue the fight, I endorse Mr. ABC to run in 2010 for Governor so that he may continue the good fight for you the people who I have so regretfully let down by my indiscretion".
5. For myself, my slate is not clean enough to throw the first stone. I am a sinner. Perhaps your slates are clean enough? Morally, he has no right to the high ground. As a politician, he is still a good leader. Yes, I understand the logic of those who say "If he will lie to his wife, he will lie to us." However, to me the definition of a politician is "if his mouth is moving, he's lying". Even with his fall from grace, he is probably the best we have right now. More proof? When all the politicians (left and right) hate you, you are doing something right (by the people).
6. In the end, God will judge him. I will pray for him.
I hope these words provide a different insight.
June 30, 2009 at 4:37 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
CNSYD (anonymous) says...
Sanfraud's bio says that when he was in Congress he was on the International Relations Committee. No I did not make that up.
June 30, 2009 at 4:44 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
vmirat90 (anonymous) says...
"I did not have international relations with that woman, Ms. Chapur..."
June 30, 2009 at 4:46 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
vmirat90 (anonymous) says...
This is a Lifetime movie waiting to happen. I am trying to think who would play the Luv Guv...
June 30, 2009 at 4:47 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
mrsh3880 (anonymous) says...
Does ANYONE believe in the sanctity of marriage anymore? Please, someone out there who has been married for 20+ years and is still blissfully happy, and has never entertained the thought of straying or cheating (and neither has their spouse), and who actually MEANT the vows they professed on their wedding day....please post here, and encourage anyone else who (like me) is beginning to think this no longer exists. I mean, I feel this way, but I'm only 3 years into my marriage. I pray I'm still there 15 years from now. As for Sanford....I don't know what to say about him, except for the fact that he is a shining example of TOTAL misjudgment of character on my part. He obviously cares nothing about Jenny or his boys, because he must know he is hurting them by continuing to air out his dirty laundry to the press. His boys aren't "little" - they're old enough to understand, and certainly old enough to read headlines. At least school is out for the summer so they don't have to face the stares there. If you no longer love your wife, Mark, at LEAST love your boys enough to put their feelings before your own agenda....whatever that is at this point.
June 30, 2009 at 4:49 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
alice3161 (anonymous) says...
Simply put, Sanford needs to resign now! His reprehensible behavior is a complete embarrassment to the state. People of faith, and anyone else for that matter, have a right to be furious with him. He has made everyone living under the umbrella of "faith and family values" look like a bunch of hypocrites. Jenny should have filed for divorce (today) the minute Mark's "crossed lines" interview appeared on the AP website. What a low life cad. He has the nerve to say "Chapur is his soulmate but he is trying to fall back in love with his wife." This tells anyone that marriage has already ended in his eyes.
In another article it stated the governor met Ms. Chapur "on a dance floor" in 2001. Well, pardon me people, but what is a married man doing a dance floor in a foreign country with someone other than his wife? How do we know that he didn't have a "physical" relationship with Ms. Chapur as far bck as 2001? Mark Sanford has already shown that he cannot be trusted to tell the truth. Look at how fast his story changed in less than one week!
June 30, 2009 at 4:51 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
writenow (anonymous) says...
Can we stop with the infantile, "let he who is without sin cast the first stone" c**p, puh-leeze.
Using that tortured logic means we would need no laws or police because we're all a bunch of sinners and no one can be accountable except to God. So please, give it a rest.
June 30, 2009 at 4:55 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
walleyedwoman1215 (anonymous) says...
Y'know, I've always wondered what would finally tip me over the edge. Now I know: A narcisstic, psychotic, lying, thieving, duplicitous, sniveling, selfish piece of rancid DNA named Mark Sanford.
Since tarring and feathering is no longer legal, let's impeach his scrawny, corrupt, disgusting carcass so he can slither off to be with his "fiercely private" whore. He can't leave the state fast enough for me.
June 30, 2009 at 4:56 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
moodyclown (anonymous) says...
What fool is to believe he didn't have sex with these other woman he crossed the line with? We need to remove this loser from office!
June 30, 2009 at 4:57 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
n4dloveofit (anonymous) says...
Sanford is one of the notorious governor SC ever hand, God don't like ugly. This is why state of SC is a joke to this country. As a leader of sc and a family man, a true man won't leave his sons and family on father day, spend republican taxpayer's money and travel to Argentina to see MC for his personal satisfaction. Then lied to the State of SC that he was going on a hiking trip in the Appalachian Mountains. Now we know why he didn't want to sign the stimulus package. He was more concerned about how to stimulate travel to Argentina than stimulate jobs for the
people of SC. This is the same man who wants to closed USC campuses in rural areas because the state is spending too much of money. But it's okay for Stanford to take taxpayer's money and spen it on trips to Argentina for his personal satisfaction. You Figure!!! The bottom line: This should open the eyes of his republican party, that Sanford only care about Sanford and not the state of SC.
If you republicans can't see through this and wants this person as a leader for the state of SC, then you are as BADD as I thought.
June 30, 2009 at 4:59 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
vmirat90 (anonymous) says...
It definitely needed to be said, Write. I actually argued with some crazy lady last week that said.."well, he's going to give the money back, so let's forgive him". I told her then hell, I will embezzle 10K from my company, take a trip, then give it back and apologize, and all will be forgiven.
But hey, love thy neighbor, and we are all sinners...That is a load of crap. Whenever I hear that, I see Jimmy Swaggart in my mind crying on tv...Lord I have sinned!
He's not remorseful- he is sad that he got caught plain and simple.
June 30, 2009 at 5:03 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Lovely_One (anonymous) says...
"The Lovenor: A True Lies Love Story!"
June 30, 2009 at 5:05 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
gingerisler (anonymous) says...
To all the people who want Sanford to resign . . .
Do you really want Andre Bauer as your Governor? Check out his escapades. He has even less respect for the law.
June 30, 2009 at 5:07 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
vmirat90 (anonymous) says...
Lovely, now that definitely sounds like the Lifetime movie of the week. Too bad Don Lafonaine isn't still alive- "In a statehouse...where the business of the people takes place, there is another type of business going on"..cue the bass line...
June 30, 2009 at 5:10 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
JAS (anonymous) says...
For all those on here that cry "Do you really want Andre to be gov.?" (Which seems to be everyone on here). My question is WHY DID YOU VOTE FOR HIM? Because he had the little R next to his name? Brilliant.
June 30, 2009 at 5:12 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
vmirat90 (anonymous) says...
all those straight ticket voters...hope you're happy now!
June 30, 2009 at 5:13 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
patiofurniture (anonymous) says...
When can we go back to discussing Michael Jackson being a pedophile instead of Sanford porking a hottie?
June 30, 2009 at 5:15 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
martin (anonymous) says...
Numba10, you just can't deal with the fact you have misjudged Mark's character so badly. You didn't want to believe he is just another politician. He is.
Don't make an emotional investment in these people. Don't vote for anyone who talks about family values. You don't want them in your bedroom; keep them out of everyone else's. There are pure political issues that you should be voting for or against. Family values need to be taught in church and in homes and kept out of politics.
June 30, 2009 at 5:17 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
gingerisler (anonymous) says...
JAS ~ I didn't vote for Andre and I never will. I also really don't want him to get a "leg up" on the election by serving for 18 months. Sanford may be a fool in his personal life and may be a terrible Governor but he is a lame duck ~ he's over. Let him complete his term and then let the election process take care of itself.
June 30, 2009 at 5:17 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
JAS (anonymous) says...
I personally hope he stays. The longer he stays, the more he will bring down the party of "Moral Standards, Faith, and Family Values".
This is way too much fun to watch.
June 30, 2009 at 5:22 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Lovely_One (anonymous) says...
vmirat, I could actually hear Sir Don reading those lines. LOL!
June 30, 2009 at 5:26 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
rebels64 (anonymous) says...
Gov. Sanford, you are a complete idiot. How can you keep talking about this mess when you should have already resigned and gone back to Maria. When you are trying to repair a marriage the last thing your wife wants to hear is that your mistress is your "soul mate". You are already the biggest hypocrite ever, i.e. President Clinton, now you are the dumbest hypocrite ever. Shut up! The national news people think that people from S.C. are stupid anyway, you as the head of state are just proving them right. You have done nothing for the state in six plus years, at least do one thing right RESIGN!!
June 30, 2009 at 5:32 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
RememberGB (anonymous) says...
Just remember that old political adage... You elect what you deserve. So enjoy the results of your voting! But you might want to think a little more carefully about who you vote for the next go-round.
June 30, 2009 at 5:34 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
CNSYD (anonymous) says...
rebels64, Sanfraud is not from SC. He is from FL. The Gullah language provides two terms to distinguish between natives and those who aren't. Bin Yah and Come Yah. Sanfraud is in the latter category.
June 30, 2009 at 5:42 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
abitskeptical (anonymous) says...
Lovely: "The Lovenor" ......Goood one(Inspector Clouseau...Pink Panther)
June 30, 2009 at 5:46 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Jord (anonymous) says...
It's all falling into place now. He never broke up w/Maria. He left her promising he'd be back in 18 mos., separated from his wife and still a status-laden former gov.That's why Maria's mentioned first in his apology. Now he has to assure her she is his soulmate and he is in no way in love w/his wife because the other women are about to be revealed - and revealing!-so he's gotta cover: for Maria-not Jenny, not "those" boys, and not SC. To him, it's all about Maria and Mark,eternally beloved. ( Barf!)
Too bad he's gonna end up trying to return to her as a disgraced, philandering, untrustworthy, Viagra-propelled, tired and haggard- looking, skinny, tarnished-trophy lovemate.
I'll bet she hits the delete button on his emailed plane time landing in Buenos Aires.
Everything that goes around comes around. There is nothing more pathetic than an old man "burned".
June 30, 2009 at 5:51 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
goodkarmasc (anonymous) says...
State taxpayer funded vehicle to Columbia airport for cover?
$50
State taxpayer funded vehicle to Atlanta airport for trist?
$200
State taxpayer funds to Argentina for trist?
$7000
"The State" newspaper sitting on emails from Argentine lover since December indicating a loss of Free Press and SCLED not investigating indicating a loss of justice?
PRICELESS
My point may have been missed....I could care less about who he did, when he did, how he did, etc....I care about a SINGLE DIME of my (our) taxpayer money being spent on his dalliances.
June 30, 2009 at 5:59 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
abitskeptical (anonymous) says...
Clearly Sanford has confused love with lust & melodrama.
Love Story? Gag a maggot.
June 30, 2009 at 6:02 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
stanish (anonymous) says...
Posted by JAS on June 30, 2009 at 5:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)
For all those on here that cry "Do you really want Andre to be gov.?" (Which seems to be everyone on here). My question is WHY DID YOU VOTE FOR HIM? Because he had the little R next to his name? Brilliant.
That's the point I have been trying to make for quite sometime.
June 30, 2009 at 6:04 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Jord (anonymous) says...
I'm betting by the end of the week, Andre WILL be the gov if the rumors I'm hearing about the list of Sanford still-supporters is published.
Polish your shoes Andre- and make Mama's "95" 4-cylinder Camry your major mode of transportation!
June 30, 2009 at 6:09 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Numba10 (anonymous) says...
martin---where do you get all that from any of my posts-----its all in your mind---the negative mind---if I am not bashing and name calling Sanford I must be for----how about having a discussion without all the childish name calling and demeaning comments
June 30, 2009 at 6:10 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
kostanza (anonymous) says...
fair play he's probably slept with less women than Hilary Clinton....ooh..oooh did I just say that out loud..oooh snap!!
June 30, 2009 at 6:13 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
UnoCubanito (anonymous) says...
With all his remarks, and confession only concerns is about his wife and children. To have a father who not only cheated on their mother, but to say "This other woman was his soulmate and he has to fall back in love with his wife" WTF is that all about, and should you give him points for being honest. NO, because his role as a father to his boys is to be honest and upfront,NOT when everything hit the fan AFTER your wife found out, and then to continue to meet with her. SELFISH IF YOU ASK ME...I hope his family will come through this with understanding that they can be better than this selfish act
June 30, 2009 at 6:15 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
nimuetre (anonymous) says...
I wonder if Sanford knows how to say "Toast" in Spanish.....
June 30, 2009 at 6:17 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Numba10 (anonymous) says...
So everyone feels great to see a man fall that put fiscal responsibility first---Now you have your stimulus money---will you be berating your legislature next year and the year after when the schools havent improved(money not being the answer) (stimulus for education was $250 per student)SC currently spends in the mid range for private school education but does not get the same results. So while you all gloat and revel over this sad situation in a person and the states life---Think, is what you are doing, saying, spewing, really any different morally than what he has done. I THINK NOT. When you look to either party each jas its own failures as the peoples represenatives --neither is immune
June 30, 2009 at 6:19 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
FeetontheGround (anonymous) says...
This is getting really ugly. It's sad to see someone have a mental breakdown in a public forum.
June 30, 2009 at 6:28 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
MsBehavin (anonymous) says...
Clearly Mark Sanford is a novice at How to Win Back Your Wife. I can't believe he actually said that Chapur is his soul mate but he's trying to fall back in love with his wife. He's "trying?" OMG! I don't know too many wives who wouldn't greet him at the door with an iron frying pan aimed directly at his head, saying "TRY THIS!"
June 30, 2009 at 7 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Mon_Kie (anonymous) says...
I agree with vmirat90,
once a cheater, always a cheater...
once a cheater, always a cheater...
once a cheater, always a cheater...
there are more women...lots more
June 30, 2009 at 7 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Lovely_One (anonymous) says...
LMAO @ abit! This is just sad now!
June 30, 2009 at 7:01 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
CNSYD (anonymous) says...
Numba10, since when did Sanfraud put fiscal responsibility first? Was it when he used taxpayers' funds to see his soulmate? Was it when he took a state car to Atlanta to fly off to South America? The only thing Sanfraud puts first is Sanfraud. Spoiled rich kid is what he is. You continue to compare apples to oranges as regards public vs private education. Unless the starting material is the same, the outcome can not be the same.
June 30, 2009 at 7:26 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
moonpie (anonymous) says...
shut your stupid mouth already Gov. My God man we have heard enough. The more you blurt the more you hurt your wife. Please get back to governing or get the hell out! I prefer the latter jerk.
June 30, 2009 at 7:43 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Mabilene (anonymous) says...
nimuetre,
Se dice "tostado."
Usually toast is referred to in the feminine form, "tostada," but this case is definitely masculine.
Tostado.
June 30, 2009 at 7:56 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Sandy37 (anonymous) says...
Wow, What is the big deal? SC has always elected colorful officials for as long as I can remember and I am an old gal. Was Hollings not a man about town? What about Thurman? I mean he was in his 60's when he married for the second time to Miss SC in her 20's bearly, then later found he had a black child with the household help. Apparently Sanfords marriage has gone missing. Who he sleeps with is sort of beside the point. He is able to run the state for another 18 months better than who is in the wings. The people advising him about getting back with his wife is terrible. I would advise him Celebacy is Heavenly. Be alone for awhile, it is good for the soul.
June 30, 2009 at 8:06 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
catsmom (anonymous) says...
I can't believe he is calling the other woman his "soulmate", and the affair a "tragic love story" in public while simultaneously saying he is trying to reconcile with his wife. That is cruel and it appears he is trying to drive his wife away.
June 30, 2009 at 8:07 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Teesa (anonymous) says...
This needs to stop. South Carolina needs to be out of the national spotlight. Gov. Sanford needs to do the right thing and step down. There is no way possible to get back to business with this going on. He needs to step down, concentrate on re-building a relationship with his children and possibly saving his marriage.
June 30, 2009 at 8:16 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Jord (anonymous) says...
No way he's gonna save his marriage. He just wanted to ride out his term and pretend so bad-boy speeder Andre wouldn't be the incumbent next term. It's really difficult to beat the incumbent, esp. now that Mark has tarnished the family-values claim to election. Any politician claiming family values after Mark is going to be a LAUGHING STOCK!
June 30, 2009 at 8:46 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
ginnya (anonymous) says...
wonder how in love they will be when he finds himself:
without a job
without any money
without his children (who won't speak to him)
with an "exotic" woman in an "exotic" place that doesn't accept him
oh yeah and the exotic woman's "exotic" kids who can't stand him. ahhhhh the romance of it all.
this is not love of anyone but self and it is no good at all for SC. he needs to stop talking and resign.
June 30, 2009 at 9:06 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
colonelsmiley75 (anonymous) says...
He should go ahead and resign from office because the more he talks, the more comes out. Its a lose lose situation for him. He might as well as file for divorce and let Jenny take the boys and he pay his support. Maybe he can get Maria back now and move to the farm and they can happily do the shag from now on. Because otherwise his political career is finished. A shame definitely because he allegedly had some good principles especially when it came to smaller government. But the hypocrisy in state government in SC needs to be addressed.
That includes Jakie as well. South Carolinas favorite tax and spend Democrat, errr, Allegedly Republican
June 30, 2009 at 9:09 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
furmangirl1998 (anonymous) says...
the press really needs to check out trips to the legare waring house...dig a little deeper, you will find what I am talking about...young man with USC sticker on the car...went only by first name...
June 30, 2009 at 10:18 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Sandy37 (anonymous) says...
Gosh I was always under the impression that men never marry the woman who caused the divorce, they are usually just a diversonary tactic. Everyone is so busy hating her they love the one he marries later.
June 30, 2009 at 10:24 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
jammer (anonymous) says...
STFU Sanford... you're making us ALL look like a bunch of ignorant dumba*s's for voting such a diarrhea of the mouth idiot in to office
just STFU !!
every time you open that hole in your face WE look even dumber, so STFU and leave...
you think she's your soul mate??? you are really naive, she's taking you for the troll you are... STFU!
oh, did I mention? STFU!
Jenny was obviously the brains of that operation.
June 30, 2009 at 10:30 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
dontpostmuch (anonymous) says...
Gov - please do us all a favor, if you can't keep your zipper zipped, at least keep your lips zipped. You are making a mockery of yourself and this state.
Your wife deserves so much more than public humiliation, a tragic love story? Jeez......please let me take up a collection and give you some $ for a one way ticket to Argentina. I bet I would have enough collected in about 2 minutes...if that.....
June 30, 2009 at 11 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
aviodont (anonymous) says...
"Posted by colonelsmiley75 on June 30, 2009 at 9:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)
... But the hypocrisy in state government in SC needs to be addressed.
That includes Jakie as well. South Carolinas favorite tax and spend Democrat, errr, Allegedly Republican"
AMEN brother. These people better wake up to what is coming when he step down. Be careful what you ask for.
I'll repeat what I said earlier... when politicians (liars) on both sides of the aisle can't stand you, you are doing something right by the PEOPLE. Yes, was he a moron for doing what he did. Yes, he is really embarrassing us with his incessant drivel. But, do we want any of the other lying vultures who are grandstanding now? We bought him, let's make him do what he was sent to do. SHRINK government.
June 30, 2009 at 11:12 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
bobbylee (anonymous) says...
Hey Y'all,
What part of "dereliction of duty", "misappropriation of public funds", "embezzlement" lying and just plain totally "impaired judgment" are y'all having trouble with?
What is this? Sanford's new fiscally responsible strategy? We withdraw the charges against all the thieves in SC, if they give the money back when they got caught? We then save a ton of money on jail and legal expenses?
What are y'all doing defending a guy that presides over an education system that ranks 50th out of fifty states, an unemployment rate that, today, is only slightly higher than Michigan and has sucked for the last seven years before this and routinely embarasses our state with his goofy ideology that totally ignores reality. Anyone notice that his vetoes are a joke and his stimulus escapade made him (and us)a laughing stock of the world.
Not to mention, how do you trust a guy when his own wife and kids can't trust him?
C'mon, y'all. Let's get our self respect back and dump this flake.
June 30, 2009 at 11:14 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
AMAZING (anonymous) says...
Sanford says he 'crossed lines' in marriage
Details emerge from 1995 trip
...information surfaced that he had a romantic interlude as early as 1995 on an official congressional trip to Chile.
But people familiar with one such encounter said the governor had a brief romance with an American businesswoman in June 1995 while he was traveling in Latin America on a congressional trade mission trip.
...the then-freshman congressmen met a woman during a dinner hosted by the U.S. Embassy in Santiago, Chile, and later arranged a private, romantic encounter with her while in Chile. The woman was led to believe that Mr. Sanford was unmarried, and when she found out later that he had a wife, she had no further contact with him, the sources said.
Congressional records show that as a congressman in 1995, Mr. Sanford traveled to Argentina, Brazil and Chile from May 30 to June 5 on a trade mission
Records show that Mr. Sanford did not take his wife on the trade mission, although other members of the committee did -each paying separately for their expenses.
http://washingtontimes.com/news/2009/...
June 30, 2009 at 11:27 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
SpanishMoss (anonymous) says...
For your entertainment, a friend sent me this from one of our state's finest. And we really wonder why the fools we have in our General Assembly have not called for SanFRAUD to step down.
"Dear Friends,
This past week has been one of turmoil for our state. The actions of Governor Mark Sanford have shocked and saddened us all. While I believe that it is far too early to speculate on how the dust will settle on our very real strife, I do want all of you to know that I hear your comments, emails and letters and concerns.
Governor Mark Sanford has broken the public trust with his actions and has the burden now of answering for those actions. Even though his press conference came about as a result of lack of communication with other state officials and staff and the media attention it brought, he has taken responsibility for what transpired. I do not condone what our governor has done but feel that any actions from this point forward must be reasonable and responsible and based on fact.
It will be incumbent upon the governor to be transparent, completely open and honest, as the facts and details are examined.
When you, the People, elect us to office, we swear an oath to uphold and defend our state's constitution and laws. I take that oath very seriously and expect others in government, especially our governor, to do the same. You should expect no less.
That said, I do also believe very strongly in the power of prayer and the ability of sinners to receive forgiveness from their God, but also from their community. None of us is without sin and Governor Mark Sanford has apologized. His actions from this point forward will demonstrate his dedication and commitment to rectifying his mistakes and remaining true to his state & citizens, his wife & children, and his God. Those actions combined with the facts as they are brought to light will guide where we as a state go from this point forward.
I would ask that you continue to keep Governor Sanford and his family and our entire state in your thoughts and prayers. We are a compassionate caring state and I know that just as we weather all other types of storms, we will come through this turmoil stronger and more dedicated to all of the principles that we South Carolinian's hold dear.
Here if you need me,
Representative S- (Named withheld to protect the stupid)
South Carolina House of Representatives
District 124- Beaufort
June 30, 2009 at 11:31 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
AMAZING (anonymous) says...
10 Republican SC senators call for gov's ouster
Senate Majority Leader Harvey Peeler, R-Gaffney, also said Sanford should resign.
"There's just no way he'll be able to continue as governor," said Peeler. "I'm really concerned about his mental well being. ... He changes his story, it seems like hourly. That's not a man who looks like he's focused."
In all, 10 of the GOP's 27 state senators have now called for the governor to step down.
http://www.thesunnews.com/575/story/9...
June 30, 2009 at 11:41 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
aviodont (anonymous) says...
I think that Washington Times story that just broke (7-1) will be the final nail for him.
He should have come out with it ALLLLLLLL at once.
That said, I am not defending the man's actions nor his nonsensical dribble. I am merely pointing out that any chance for small limited government in SC will be done with him.
I have to disagree with BobbyLee's comments about "his stimulus escapade" embarrassing us. Yes, if you run in liberal circles, well, duh, of course it would embarrass you. But those of us who are fiscal conservatives were proud that he did the right thing. I only wish he applied these conservative values to his personal life.
June 30, 2009 at 11:50 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
SpanishMoss (anonymous) says...
"Some have asked McConnell to convene the Judiciary Committee he runs or create a joint House and Senate committee to investigate, but he says that sentiment is premature.
He said if a law has been violated, it's SLED's job to look into it, while the Ethics Commission would look at ethics complaints if they are filed."
Ha! That's a good one.
Does anyone remember when the State Ethcis Commission gave a pass to SanFRAUD's brother-in-law, the former mayor of Beaufort? The former mayor (he was forced to resign after he was caught by the SEC for insider trading) was accused of trying to bribe a councilman in exchange for a vote. The geniuses at the State Ethics Commission decided that since no money exchanged hands it really wasn't a bribe.
And who appoints these idiots to the State Ethics Commission?
Why, SanFRAUD does.
The governor should spare us all this drama and do what is best for the people of South Carolina. Go back to Florida and let us get on with our lives.
June 30, 2009 at 11:57 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
oldglory (anonymous) says...
Please Governor, choose to have dignity and decorum. Every time you rave on
and on about your 'soulmate', the times you have had sex with her, etc.,
you are leaving an indelible legacy for your beautiful sons. Shame on you!
Put on your glasses and take a good look beyond your nose!
You are most ridiculous when you assume you are the only person who
has ever fallen in love, illicit though it be. There are millions of people who have
walked in painful shoes. You are not special in any way. If your 'soulmate'
is so very special, then abdicate your elected position, fly away to her forever
but stop debating this crapola in public (presumably looking for absolution from
the masses) while every word is an arrow in the hearts of those whom you once
professed to love.
Narcissicism is a personality disorder and that means that narcissists'
personalities aren't organized in a way that makes sense to most people . . .
July 1, 2009 at 12:05 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
vmirat90 (anonymous) says...
"I can't believe he is calling the other woman his "soulmate",
I've figured it out, cats mom...he is doing a comercial for EHarmony.
July 1, 2009 at 7:10 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Lois_Lane (anonymous) says...
Every cent the governor earns is taxpayer money. EVERY CENT. It's too late for him to shut up now. There seems to be more beans in the pot than we were first led to believe. As far as Chapur demanding her privacy, as soon as she opened her legs her privacy slithered out the window.
July 2, 2009 at 10:13 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
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