Couple killed in crash identified
By Andy Paras
Authorities have identified a North Charleston couple who were killed Sunday when a driver fled a traffic stop and crashed into their car.
Charleston County Coroner Rae Wooten pronounced Johnny Vice, 63, dead at the scene at 7:10 p.m. His wife, Betty, 63, died later at the Medical University Hospital, Wooten said.
Authorities say Johnny Vice was driving a 2001 Cadillac when the car was struck by a 2005 Chrysler 300 that attempted to elude a traffic stop at Moultrie Street and Ashley Avenue.
An officer stopped the Chrysler for speeding at President and Moultrie streets at 6:52 p.m., said Charles Francis, Charleston Police public information officer.
As the officer walked toward the vehicle, the car took off, Francis said.
Three black men inside the Chrysler got out of the car following the crash and ran. At least one of them was picked up by a late-model Ford Expedition or Cadillac Escalade that stopped at the scene, Francis said.
No arrests have been made as of Monday morning. Francis said the driver was wearing shorts and an army-green shirt. Another wore blue jeans and a white tank top. A description of the third man was not available.
The Highway Patrol is investigating the crash.
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EastCoaster (anonymous) says...
Something is wrong here.....
"Three black men inside the Cadillac got out of the car following the crash and ran"
I think the author must have meant Chrysler here?...
Either way its a shame for Mr Vice and his wife.
June 29, 2009 at 12:28 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
burton (anonymous) says...
Let the race smashing begin. My condolences to the Vice family. Senseless!!
June 29, 2009 at 12:55 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
BulldogTLC (anonymous) says...
no matter what race they are, they are trash..... throw the book at them.
June 29, 2009 at 1 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
mb300sl (anonymous) says...
Stolen car, drugs, etc....Same old, same old BS. Couple killed by lawlessness, what a shame!
June 29, 2009 at 1:01 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
green123 (anonymous) says...
this is a horribly sad story. two innocent people are dead. when these people are caught they need to have a murder or manslaughter charge brought against them. also how were they able to get away after wrecking, shouldn't more cops have been around to assist?
June 29, 2009 at 1:11 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
desspec (anonymous) says...
One poster can't read, one immediately pulls the race card, and another blames the Police ... Lovely! Just lovely!
June 29, 2009 at 2 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
jinx (anonymous) says...
My heart goes out to the family of these two innocent victims.
June 29, 2009 at 2:28 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Lovely_One (anonymous) says...
"One poster can't read, one immediately pulls the race card, and another blames the Police ... Lovely! Just lovely!"
I had nothing to do with this....LOL! j/k
My condolences to the friends and family of the victims in this case. They need to throw the book at all three these idiots when they are caught.
June 29, 2009 at 2:37 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
SCPDBLUE (anonymous) says...
Well first off my condolences to the family. now to the crime. The suspects are the same ones we read and see on the news day in and dayout. Again until truth in sentencing is put into place for good,this and other types of crimes against the people will occur.
June 29, 2009 at 2:46 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
smp (anonymous) says...
IF they are caught??? This is a slam dunk...prints all over the car...dna etc in the car...and surely career criminals. This is a lay up.
June 29, 2009 at 2:51 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
wonderdog (anonymous) says...
Green123, this was a traffic stop, not a pursuit. Anyway, many people complain if they see more than one police vehicle at a traffic stop. Too many cops on the scene, not enough cops on the scene - lots of armchair quarterbacking by those who have never worked in law enforcement (but have watched a lot of TV).
I appreciate the very difficult job our police and emergency workers do. When these thugs are arrested, we will probably read that they were on probation or out on bond, thanks to our judicial system.
June 29, 2009 at 2:55 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
summerville_guy (anonymous) says...
desspec,
I read this article when there was only one comment on it, regarding the wrong car. Indeed, at the time, the article was incorrect and the poster was right. However, as is so often the case with this website, the story was edited AFTER the poster (Eastoaster) pointed out the inaccurate information. If the P&C staff would run these stories by an alert editor before posting them, they would not have to rely on the general public to point out the indiscrepancies in what is written.
Don't get me wrong - I definitely enjoy reading the newspaper for free online. However, this is a site that is earning money from advertisements based on the number of visitors to the site. Therefore, since our visiting the site ultimately leads to more revenue for the P&C, I believe that we deserve to have the stories edited before being posted.
So, in short, this was NOT a case of "One poster (who) can't read."
June 29, 2009 at 3:14 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
usa99 (anonymous) says...
Agreed wonderdog, no need to place blame on the law enforcement officers. They did their job by attempting to stop the vehicle. It's not the officers fault that they wouldn't stop. Also, you can't place blame on the officers for what the judicial system does to the offenders. The officers' hands are tied once it gets to a certain point.
June 29, 2009 at 3:21 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
charlestt (anonymous) says...
@Wonderdog +10
Fry them!
June 29, 2009 at 4:09 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
rrh29445zip (anonymous) says...
This is tragic and senseless. My condolences to the family.
June 29, 2009 at 4:18 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
pirate42 (anonymous) says...
tell me WHY we should not hang the idiots/////
June 29, 2009 at 4:20 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
omarro1974 (anonymous) says...
This comment was removed by the site staff for violation of the usage agreement.
June 29, 2009 at 4:50 p.m. ( permalink | )
divagranny (anonymous) says...
This couple was coming from church ,we need to get together and ban these baseball games they have on Hampton Park on Sundays,believe me you can't get to your own driveway,and there is more going on than ball playing. These young people according to supermarket talk was out there having a party and now a family is in mourning,but this will knock your socks off the driver was just released from jail last week OMG!!! Word is he turned himself in this is only because they say his leg is so banged up they may need to amputate. MR.& MRS VICE REST IN PEACE ,THERE IS A GOD AND JUSTICE WILL BE DONE !
June 29, 2009 at 5:07 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Local (anonymous) says...
The intersection of Ashley and Moultrie is very dangerous. Traffic on Moultrie has a stop sign, but on Ashley does not. Drivers often assume the opposite and run the stop sign on Moultrie. This is a terrible tragedy. I hope the City will consider an all-way stop with better signage at Moultrie and Ashley.
June 29, 2009 at 5:36 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
deputy216 (anonymous) says...
As a deputy in middle Georgia we have a policy on vehicle pursuit. When the chase becomes dangerous and the public is put in harms way we terminate the chase and get them another day. I would hope Charleston County, city of Charleston and North Charleston have a SOP in place to prevent tragedies from occurring and innocent people losing their life. As a deputy for twenty seven years I was fortunate not to have anyone killed while a pursuing a vehicle. My prayers go out to the family.
June 29, 2009 at 8:19 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
BPFROM843 (anonymous) says...
this is why cops arent supposed to pursue fleeing suspects because it is dangerous to others
June 29, 2009 at 8:24 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
wonderdog (anonymous) says...
This was NOT a pursuit, so a pursuit policy doesn't even apply here.
The thugs sped away from the officer after being pulled over and hit the other car within about 2 blocks.
June 29, 2009 at 9:15 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
ARLEANCROSBY (anonymous) says...
My sister-in-law is the cousin of Mrs Vice, I am not here to point fingers at anyone,I just pray that the suspects turn themselves in for turning this families life upside down. My prayer goes out to the children Dee Dee, Nat, and Ron and their father Harold Shaw.Betty was a wonderful woman as was her husband these two will truly be missed. Arlean Wright Crosby Charlotte,NC
June 29, 2009 at 10:58 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
wonderdog (anonymous) says...
I'm so sorry for your loss, Ms. Crosby, and I include you and your family in my prayers. We have heard about what nice, family people Mr. and Mrs. Vice were, and a lot of people will miss them.
June 29, 2009 at 11:29 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
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