DePass apologizes for offensive remark

jnot (anonymous) says...

Nobody's hearing the gorilla's side:
http://thediscust.com/?p=369

June 18, 2009 at 1:32 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Rocks66 (anonymous) says...

Kinda reminiscent of Fritz's documented comments about "darkies" in 1986 and his reference to "cannibals" regarding a visiting African delegation in '93.

June 18, 2009 at 2:10 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

NativeSon (anonymous) says...

What is all the fuss? Left wingers claim that we are desendants of apes and monkeys and not devine creations of an awesome GOD.

June 18, 2009 at 4:10 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

y2catt (anonymous) says...

Native Son, you help epitomize what was wrong with that statement. I am a independent and I think that liberalism has help to handicap minorities but it's hard to defend conservative principles when you hear dozens of careless comments like these.
There is such a nasty element hiding in the conservative movement just as there is a fanatic element inside the liberal movement.
Until conservatives and republicans separate their brand from subliminal racism they will not attract any more supporters.

June 18, 2009 at 4:26 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

JDHawg (anonymous) says...

Kind of reminds of Obmama's comment about Palin "lipstick on a pig." I don't remember obama apologize for his comment.

June 18, 2009 at 6:26 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

teeitup (anonymous) says...

The truth will set you free, Michelle

June 18, 2009 at 6:32 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

moonpie (anonymous) says...

Please, yes it was stupid, I have heard worse from blacks talking about white politicians?
JDHawg, is right the president didn't lose his job! Oh yeah but he is 1/2 black so its ok we just turn a deaf ear when black people say it.
Double standards abound that's why I take none of it seriously anymore.

June 18, 2009 at 6:43 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

ballachulish (anonymous) says...

Hawg,
"Lipstick on a pig" is a common expression, not a racially charged epithet.
Just because a self-described lipstick wearing pitbull b*tch used the expression to once again bring attention to herself, does not mean Obama was referring to her.
In contrast, Mr. Depass-gas, expressly and intentionally sent his racial insult against the 1st Lady.
This, as well as the Tennessee State GOP employee's recent racial email, is why most Americans are disgusted by the backward, uncivilized, and just plain dumb GOP.

June 18, 2009 at 6:58 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

mb300sl (anonymous) says...

All praise Mrs. Obamessiah! Be more careful next time Rusty...

June 18, 2009 at 7:01 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

SCVOTER (anonymous) says...

lcsaint03 - when was the last time you heard about the NAACP beating or killing someone because of their race? The sheets and hoods were used because they were a bunch of cowards that were doing things they were ashamed of. The NAACP makes their moves in the light of day, without covering their faces because they obey the law.

June 18, 2009 at 7:16 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

theronce (anonymous) says...

What an idiot. Since the comment was expected to be confidential, he knew that it was wrong at the time and reflects a racist bent. Regardless of whoever has done what, he is reaping what he sowed.

June 18, 2009 at 7:16 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

JDHawg (anonymous) says...

Where was all the outrage and disgust when all the nasty stuff was being said about bush he was the president of the united state,Obama deserves the same respect as bush did.everybody thinks JUST BECAUSE HE's BLACK he deserves respect and that anybody that says anything against him, it has to be racially motivated.

If,she indead say or beleive we evolve from gorillas than what he said was not racially motivated.

June 18, 2009 at 7:22 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

ballachulish (anonymous) says...

Hawg,
Bush was criticized for his arrogance, inferior intellect, dishonesty, and laziness, not for his race.
I don't remember any Democrats sending any derogatory emails about Laura, (and she killed someone!) do you?

June 18, 2009 at 7:30 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

ln1959 (anonymous) says...

Wow, every time a white man makes a racist comments, a fool on these boards would come out and say, "The NAACP is racist."

I know there will be a comment about the Presidents pastor of 20 years also.

The thing is there is a group of you, who support all of the racist comments and let it be known that you're that way, while you hide behind the key board. That's just as bad as the KKK, who hides behind sheets. Cowards!

June 18, 2009 at 7:37 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

tc1 (anonymous) says...

Incredibly stupid remark to make. Conservatives have some racists and so do liberals. But only conservatives can be branded as such and at a 100% level. It only takes one republican racist to label ALL reps as racist yet libs can be racist all over the place and you dare not point it out. Such is life. He deserves and should be booted from any political position. That was a genuine racist remark and I Do Not agree with it. It also shows that like children today he just doesn't understand that WWW stands for World Wide Web.

Stupid Idiot!!!!!!!!!

June 18, 2009 at 7:43 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

GeneralSumter (anonymous) says...

If racism were truly ended today, the NAACP would have no need to exist. Sharpton perpetuates racism as a means of job security.

DePass's comment was racist, and yes, it's what's in his heart. He's an idiot for saying it and a fool for posting it on FB.

June 18, 2009 at 7:46 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

grits1973 (anonymous) says...

I don't agree with what the man wrote on FB and he was pretty dumb to write it and think it wouldn't go public. But give me a break people, it was an insult, a school-yard name-calling. Big deal -- words are just words, and I thought as Americans we all had the freedom of speech, whether it's intelligent speech or not. Or, has that been taken away from us, too?

June 18, 2009 at 7:55 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

cwmcpa (anonymous) says...

I am offended about black pannther thugs using weapons and intimidating white voters on elelction day in Philadelphia. I am offended that this racist justice department is just letting it drop. I am offended that the attorney general says I am coward when it comes to race but supports a judge that says her skills are superior because of her sex and minority status. Only the ones that make their living by gettng their feelings hurt over other's words are complaining. When real racism happens as is occurring in this administration the P&C goes silent. I believe the manufactured outrage of these people is intended to prevent the truth from being spread, there is not one pretty spot on Michelle Obama, and her husband is not that smart. But this is looking past the color of their skin and to the content of their character

June 18, 2009 at 8:06 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

TinaR (anonymous) says...

Let's be real here folks.. He MEANT it.. The only reason that he apologized is because the main stream media picked up the story.

June 18, 2009 at 8:15 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

WhatMeWorry (anonymous) says...

Free speech is a wonderful thing.

There have been a lot of posts recently regarding the difficulty SC has in recruiting business and industry.

A tool used more frequently nowadays to screen an area for potential relocation is to read the local letters to the editor and online posts from locals.

Can you imagine what a sophisticated, highly profitable company's CEO would think about Charleston and South Carolina as a potential business site after reading the posts found here?

June 18, 2009 at 8:25 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

MableX (anonymous) says...

DePass is what happens when a head of lettuce breeds with Jabba the Hut. A lovely man, don't you think? These bloodlines alone will jettison him to the top of the SC GOP.

June 18, 2009 at 8:36 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

vmirat90 (anonymous) says...

lc, I was thinking the same thing. He should have made a direct apology to the first lady.

That being said...Native, it is a well known fact that the earth was created 3,000 yrs ago....LOL!!

June 18, 2009 at 8:41 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

WhatMeWorry (anonymous) says...

I'll take my last post a step further to put it in stark daylight:

haroldreems chases away smart people. He is an anchor holding the South Carolina economy back.

June 18, 2009 at 8:42 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

guidedbystewart (anonymous) says...

Great Post, WhatMeWorry!

June 18, 2009 at 8:43 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

lillycollette (anonymous) says...

"Can you imagine what a sophisticated, highly profitable company's CEO would think about Charleston and South Carolina as a potential business site after reading the posts found here?"

Probably just about what I'm thinking. Thank goodness under the laws on free speech I am not compelled to share those thoughts.

(LOL)

June 18, 2009 at 8:46 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

vmirat90 (anonymous) says...

actually Harold, I do remember when Barkley said that. He had a firestorm rain down on him.

June 18, 2009 at 8:48 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

nopartisan_noproblem (anonymous) says...

The problem is that anytime you use your free speech to share an opinion or joke about somebody you run the risk of bein reprimanded for it. His employers have every right to fire him over anything they want to, especially racist comments, being that could effect the outlook on his company/group.

What I don't understand is how when a certain person is insulted, any person that shares a common trait with them gets insulted also. If someone was to call me a cracker, or white trash, should another white person in summerville get offended? I don't care what you think of anybody else, if it is not directed to me, why should I care? I know there's white trash out there, and you can feel free to call them out on it all day, I'll agree. It is possible to directly insult a single person without intending to insult a whole race, gender, religion. He didn't make a blanket statement about black people. I don't think the NAACP is racist, but I do think they are constantly pointing fingers saying "hey, see, see, he's racist so our country still hasn't turned around". It seems like the whole organization is banking on racist activity, if we all "got along" what would they do?

And if Michelle didn't respond personally, why does Depass feel he needs to apologize to everyone else. He insulted Michelle, not the entire black race. And to that if someone makes a racist comment, you cannot place the opinions of one on an entire group. I'm not a republican, but all of them aren't racists. Every group has people that will dislike others. It's human nature.

June 18, 2009 at 8:53 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

vmirat90 (anonymous) says...

I think that people are a wee bit too sensitive, yes. I also agree with you non that if she didn't say she was offended, let it go away. However, it just goes to show you how much of a moron this guy is. His lack of judgement and instincts are what is scary. I sure hope that he doesn't run any company that I have stock in. It will be yanked out today if he is...

June 18, 2009 at 9:03 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

WhatMeWorry (anonymous) says...

nopartisan, the problem with his joke is two-fold:

1) It references a traditional slur used against Blacks for centuries and, therefore, cuts deeper and broader. There would not be so much hype if he had simply said, "Michelle Obama is an idiot."

2) He is a politician and, rightly or wrongly, held to a higher standard which he failed to uphold.

To me, the striking part of the story is not the statement, but that he was dumb enough to make it on Facebook. The stupidity of politicians astounds me. This is right up there with Hillary Clinton's statement about her trip in which she had to dodge gunfire when exiting a plane when she knew there was actual video footage of her nonchalantly walking down the stairs and across the tarmac.

Episodes like this don't expose politicians as racists or liars but, importantly, as foolish.

June 18, 2009 at 9:05 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Sark (anonymous) says...

It amuses me to no end when conservatives try and justify this (and similar remarks) by saying, "well, evolution says that we come from monkeys/apes anyway." That statement alone is enough to show that they have no idea what they're talking about.

According to evolutionary theory, apes and humans have a common ancestor. One is not descended from the other. Apes are our cousins on the family tree, not our grandparents.

And that's your science minute for the day.

June 18, 2009 at 9:09 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

nopartisan_noproblem (anonymous) says...

That is my point WhatMeWorry, if someone called her an idiot who would have cared. I personally would be much more offended if someone insulted my intelligence, as oppose to my skin color. If someone says something about my skin color, it carries no meaning. They have no basis behind their opinion or insult. So why pay it any attention, even more so be insulted?

And as far as the politicians being held to a higher standard. When the democrats criticize the republican party(and vice versa), they are directly insulting a huge group of peoples morals, values, idealogy, and most importantly how they feel our country should be ran. Wouldn't you feel insulted if someone criticized your morals/ethics more than making a blanket statement about your skin?

June 18, 2009 at 9:15 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

vmirat90 (anonymous) says...

classy as always, harold. I would expect no better of you.

June 18, 2009 at 9:33 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

WhatMeWorry (anonymous) says...

Agreed, nopartisan. To sum up:

Insult me, I am insulted and no one else.

Insult my ethics/morals, I am not offended (since they are subjective), but others who share my ethics/morals may be.

Likewise, insult my skin color and, again, I am not offended because it merely exposes ignorance, but it may offend others with the same skin color.

June 18, 2009 at 9:37 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

ltgrunt (anonymous) says...

Since you used the hypothetical example of someone calling you cracker or white trash, Nopartison, I'm working under the assumption that you are caucasian. Before I continue, keep in mind that I'm not condoning the ultra-sensitive mentality that some people have. That being said, I can certainly understand how black people can feel a collective sense of anger and injustice over racist remarks - even stupid jokes - directed even at individuals. Admittedly, I don't share that cultural identity, but I can certainly understand how a few hundred years of bondage, frequently abusive, and decades of legalized, institutionalized racism all based on skin color can lead to a heightened awareness of certain issues.

I'm an American, and of Irish descent. The Irish people went through about 800 years of rape, murder, tyranny and oppression by the British, and my ancestors stuck through it and only emigrated to the US just in time to face all of those "no Irish need apply" signs during one of the earlier trends of xenophobic anti-immigrant sensationalism here in the states. Having a cultural awareness that's informed - even only in some small part - by generations of mistreatment and prejudice, I can certainly understand taking offense at an insult levied at someone else if it is based on a racial or ethnic trait, especially one that I share. Seeing the annual St. Patrick's Day celebrations that reduce Irish contributions to history to shamrocks and green beer is off-putting, to say the least.

Put briefly, I can certainly understand how the larger social or cultural group can be insulted over comments directed at or about an individual.

I suppose as a more widely understandable example, there is the fact that many Americans became justifiably upset at those throughout the world who spoke poorly of former President Bush or of our military figures over the past eight years.

June 18, 2009 at 9:45 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Lovely_One (anonymous) says...

Dead Horse: "Quit beating me!"

June 18, 2009 at 10:08 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

vmirat90 (anonymous) says...

you shouldn't hate anyone. You can dislike them or their policies, but hate is a really ugly word that hurts you more than it does who you're directing it to. It just means that you really do care about that person, because you are spending so much time thinking about (and hating) them.

June 18, 2009 at 10:08 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

JustJennings (anonymous) says...

I am a WASP, but I think that a pulic official that would make such a remark is not the kind of person we need in office. I am certainly for Freedom of Speech, but this guy's use of it has exposed him for what he is.

June 18, 2009 at 10:08 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

nopartisan_noproblem (anonymous) says...

Great points Itgrunt, but as an individual I disagree and feel that recognizing their ignorance only fuels it. How can we as a majority move forward together if we still lend an ear to the minority that have the ignorant and foolish views of no valor. People are going to be offended, I understand. I want people to offend me if that is how they feel they must express their opinion to me. At least I know they're lack of knowledge about me or my beliefs must be reverted to name-calling and insults. But when we as a people for unity recognize these bigots, it only gives them a reason to continue.

June 18, 2009 at 10:12 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

maeko (anonymous) says...

this was just embarrassing...like that weird drunk uncle that blurts out inappropriate comments at a family gathering and then trys to feel-up someone's girlfriend.

why does SC continually end up in the national news for completely uncouth and crass behavior on the part of our reps? can't we get some reps with some style or, at the very least, fully firing synapses...gees...

June 18, 2009 at 10:16 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

ltgrunt (anonymous) says...

Not recognizing ignorance can provide just as much fuel, though, Nopartisan. Again, I'm not a fan of making a huge to-do about issues like this, but remaining silent can do as much to encourage ignorant behaviors by giving unspoken consent. At some point, when people say awful, hateful things like this, someone needs to step up and calmly say "hey, you're being an idiot. Cut it out." There doesn't need to be a grand trial in the court of public opinion, and we certainly don't need any witch hunts, but collectively, we can only tolerate just so much stupid.

June 18, 2009 at 10:27 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

eyfigueroa (anonymous) says...

"That being said...Native, it is a well known fact that the earth was created 3,000 yrs ago....LOL!!"

No...

I think it's more like 7,500 AND dinosaurs didn't exists!

ROFL

The only issue I have with this SC GOP debacle is this kowtowing to the NAACP.

The damage is done and this fool just needed to move on. IF he was sincere in his apology, he should have just issued a statement and sent Mrs. Obama a letter of apology.

No fanfare no insincere attempt at placating the "Black" community.

Like several other posters mentioned, his stupidity is more telling than his personal prejudices.

I could care less if you're prejudiced or bigoted or even racists.

However I DO care about politicians being so blatantly stupid.

We ALL have personal prejudices, what separates MOST of us from jack*sses such as DePass & some of our regular posters on this site, we don't allow our personal ideals to interfere in the pursuit of life, liberty and happiness of others.

THAT'S when it becomes a problem.

I say let's move on from this and concentrate on other issues.

Such as why is it that posters such as Harold, moonie, urgator, realamerican won't post on articles referencing positive reporting on people of color but seemingly LIVE to promote their opinions on articles showing 'colored' people in a poor light?

June 18, 2009 at 10:30 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

eds777 (anonymous) says...

SC has a governor with style, class, savoir-faire and lots of experience. Support him!

June 18, 2009 at 10:36 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

vmirat90 (anonymous) says...

ey, that's funny. I did see Religulous a few months back, and whether or not you like Bill Maher is irrelevant. He went to this park called "Bible Land", and they actually showed people at the time of Christ making pottery and such, with dinosaurs right behind them. No, it wasn't a mistake, I'm afraid.

It's scary that we share the planet with people like that.

June 18, 2009 at 10:37 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

nopartisan_noproblem (anonymous) says...

Agreed Itgrunt, I do feel as though the NAACP sometimes fuels it by making these occurences the poster child for black-white relations. Publicly denouncing it? Out of all groups, we all know the NAACP denounces it. That can go unsaid, and publicized. But hey, their choice.

June 18, 2009 at 10:43 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

SCdeacinNYC (anonymous) says...

I don't what's worse..that he said it or that he posted it to facebook of all places. Stupid. This is why people over 35 shouldn't be on facebook (j/k...but not really). Even worse was what that other idiot posted on Twitter (also from SC unfortunately) and tried to delete it not realizing that everything that you post on there even deleted messages NEVER goes away.

What he said was racist and he probably is a racist also or he wouldn't have even thought to say that. So blatantly over the top and ridiculous...comparing black people to apes, what is this the 1930s? There are better and more clever racist stereotypes to put out there these days...I guess that one is just a classic.

I also don't understand why he though that he had to apologize at an NAACP event...useless. Like I also said yesterday, his first apology was horrible though, it was along the line "I'm sorry if YOU got offended by what I said..." quite possibly the worst cop-out non-apology anyone can ever give.

June 18, 2009 at 10:47 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

CHRISJIII (anonymous) says...

What else could you expect from a conservative republican from SC? Sooner or later their ignorance and bigotry comes through.

June 18, 2009 at 10:51 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

SCdeacinNYC (anonymous) says...

vmirat90, I saw that movie also. I'm so-so on Bill Maher he seems to go way too far at times to make a point sometime,especially about religion, but I think he made some important ones in that movie about ALL major world religions in general.

The Bible Land segment was frightening on many different levels. Of course my sister also actually worked with a guy previously who homeschooled his kids and refused to send his kids to "government schools where they would learn about crazy stuff like dinosaurs". Umm yeah. Wow.

June 18, 2009 at 10:52 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

vmirat90 (anonymous) says...

rolls his eyes again....sigh.

"I'm better than you, so I will call you names.."

give it a rest, people.

June 18, 2009 at 10:54 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

eyfigueroa (anonymous) says...

wow vmi! I've meant to watch that movie for months and I just keep forgetting to order it on On Demand. I heard it was hilarious.

I generally don't mock those who choose to walk the walk. Have faith, believe in your scriptures and live your life as you see fit. Raise your children in the manner of your beliefs.

However:

I reserve the right to raise an eyebrow when you tell me dinosaurs never existed, Jesus made clay pots with a T-Rex looking over his shoulder, that modern medicine is the work of the Devil or I'm damned to Hell for wearing pants.

I also reserve the right to fight you tooth and nail if you try to impose your personal belief structure upon my life, personal decisions and right to the pursuit of happiness. STAY OUT OF MY closet (pants reference), the manner in which I raise my children, my bedroom and my body.

So to the poster ATTEMPTING to defend Mr. DePass and his obvious racially denigrating remark by invoking a religious dogma referencing the theory of Creationism, I raise my eyebrow at you.

Don't use your Bible as some sort of defense against the accusation of bigotry and/or racism.

It doesn't work.

June 18, 2009 at 10:56 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

vmirat90 (anonymous) says...

I agree completely, EY. I could not have said it better myself- on all points.

I also agree that Bill Maher does go too far sometimes- uncomfortably so occasionally, but the people (typically the Christian Coalition types) that were all up in arms about that movie probably never saw it. He didn't make fun of Christianity or the other religions he reviewed (and yes, he had sharp criticism of Islam, Judaism and Hinduism). His point was that extremeism is dangerous in all religions, and people that have faith- he even said, "that's great- it's a personal choice." But when their decisions and faith are clearly not accurate in the contexts of history or science, or shape policy, that's when they need to be called out on the carpet.

June 18, 2009 at 11:11 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

vmirat90 (anonymous) says...

SC...you sounded like Bill Lundberg there for a second...."ummmm, yeah, Peter...we need for you to come in and work on saturday....yeah...."

June 18, 2009 at 11:14 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

mypointofview (anonymous) says...

It's ironic, that most of you posting all the anti-conservative, anti-Republican, anti-Sanford, anti-SC vitriole are far more bigoted, judgemental and hate-filled than any conservative I've ever met. Re-read your posts, people...nothing about you is inclusive or gentle. You are, indeed, haters. No better than those you are condemning. By the way, I'm an independent.

June 18, 2009 at 11:18 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Lovely_One (anonymous) says...

There was a story in the paper earlier this week and there were only 3 comments on it. This particular story "would have provided a forum to possibly generate some positive comments about young, good black[s]" as a whole. But alas, only three lonely posters seized the opportunity!

http://www.postandcourier.com/news/2009/...

June 18, 2009 at 11:20 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

vmirat90 (anonymous) says...

I tried pulling up the link, Lovely, but alas...to no avail.

June 18, 2009 at 11:30 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

SCdeacinNYC (anonymous) says...

Hahaha vmirat90. I LOVE Office Space. It might actually unfortunately be the reason why "ummm yeah" has made its way permanently into my (along with many of my friends) vocabulary. I also say "ummmm no" a lot also. Sometimes it just applies.

Lovely, you know the deal. People thrive on the negative because that's what they want to believe. It's unfortunate but I know I try to commend as many positive developments as I can, because it makes me proud especially when I see young people from my homestate getting their photo in a paper without it being a mugshot. I still love my state and as much as I hate when I see negativity I love when there are stories about the young people that still are trying to make it a great place.

June 18, 2009 at 11:31 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

abitskeptical (anonymous) says...

I also tried to go to the article lovely..but it is a general archive page.

June 18, 2009 at 11:37 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

eyfigueroa (anonymous) says...

Harold, when you stoop to calling me names you cease to be worthy of my contempt much less attention.

However, I felt compelled to reply to your 11:11 post because some poor misguided fool may actually lap up your vitriol as gospel and perhaps a few words of TRUTH and REALITY may prevent them from following in your footsteps of foolishness and mayhem.

I DID NOT read your 10:45 post as I was busy. Occasionally I compose a post in Microsoft Word in order to better edit for mistakes. Apparently during the time I was editing my post you posted your love note to me. I posted my comment at 10:56 and went on about my business.

Five minutes ago I came back to this article and lo and behold you were pitching a fit because:

1. I do not love you as you love me
2. I didn't give you any attention
3. I often publicly humiliate you on a regular basis
4. You are an immature child
5. You know that WE know you are a bigot and generally post nonsensical flame throwing crap

As I'm still busy I will stop my list there.

I commend you for asking the P&C to highlight the life and murder of Mr. Johns.

How big of you.

However, there have been positive articles (few & far between I may add) of LOCAL residents of color that have never seen a comment from you and other like minded folk.

So please spare me your righteous indignation over your ONE public request (however warranted) to the P&C to run an article on Mr. Johns.

Oh, you can stop calling me names. That playground tactic in getting me to want you as much as you want me has failed and failed miserably.

June 18, 2009 at 11:47 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Lovely_One (anonymous) says...

Oops, sorry guys. Here is the link:

http://www.postandcourier.com/news/20...

It is a story about a mother whose son was killed in 1998 and she is forming a group to help stop the violence in the area. She took a negative act and is working to do something positive because of it. Watch the video http://www.postandcourier.com/videos/.... It is a PSA advertising the forum that will be held at Burke High School on the 20th. Like I said earlier this week, this is a wonderful story about a woman doing what many of the posters here have been crying about for the longest and it only has 3 comments....Not controversial enough I guess.

P.S. The group is comprised of ALL people in the COMMUNITY.

June 18, 2009 at 11:51 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

abitskeptical (anonymous) says...

mypointofview

I also am a registered Independent. I have said, in various posts over the past couple of year, the same things you said in your 11:18 post.

So often the radical crazies on either side of the fence are more like each other than they have an ability to see & have the very characteristics they are pointing fingers at & condemning.

Each side manages to justify the characteristics in themselves that they condemn, ridicule, reject in the other "side". Through a convoluted pattern of reasoning they decide it is OK for them, but not for this other group.

Part of me finds it hilarious to watch how clueless some are & part of me finds the hypocrisy & lack of reason & logic very discouraging & sad.

June 18, 2009 at 11:53 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Lovely_One (anonymous) says...

abit, I couldn't agree with your last post more. They are so quick to jump all over each other for the other's "wrong doings" that they refuse to see that they are doing the exact same thing. Those dang planks in their eyes......!

June 18, 2009 at 11:58 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

eyfigueroa (anonymous) says...

By the way Harold.

I do give credit when it is warranted.

You are quite capable of "debating" those liberal loons who can't see past the propoganda on the tip of their noses.

You are quite capable of tearing apart the ignorant and misinformed.

But when it comes to those posters who refrain from your style of chum baiting, vitriol, name-calling and other types of foolishness, you fail.

You get angry and fall onto the floor, kick and scream at the injustice of it all.

When your back is against the wall you cry foul and bad words.

It's only when you use your big boy words that I even try to engage you.

Too bad really, on occasion you do have some very salient points to relate.

But when your thoughts are covered in sh*t, I step over it as I do the pile I see on a sidewalk.

Have a great day dear.

When you learn to relate to your betters, perhaps we can have a truly cogent debate.

¡Adiós!

June 18, 2009 at 11:59 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

theronce (anonymous) says...

What started out as a story about a racist powerful politician who spoke like an idiot has fried a lot more folks...Let's see, all reps (dem-lites), all conservatives, all liberals, The Bible with its Christians, all people from and living in SC (present company excepted, I presume), "you folks" (whoever that might include at the moment), "those folks" ( same aside), and others I don't feel like skimming the comments to list (but you ought to know who you are). That's a pretty big net cast about that one nut; do you think that it has gotten us any closer to working together to solve the real problems. Dramatically speaking, his political influence has "gone with the wind" (hooray), so let's move on (at least until we get another opportunity to play "gotcha").

June 18, 2009 at 12:02 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

abitskeptical (anonymous) says...

Thanks for the link Lovely.

and it is a good & inspiring article and it is discouraging that more people didn't comment on it.

I, myself, only posted 2 comments on Monday & they were on the silly black dog article. I didn't get very involved with the news on Monday because my "baby" turned 12 & we were having a big cookout/party later in the day.

However I do share your sense of discouragement,though,that there often are article's with more "worth" ..articles with news & info which should generate more interest than they do.

June 18, 2009 at 12:05 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

CNN_10 (anonymous) says...

This was a dumb remark from him and like i was telling my mother last night when you say something about an African American, Jews, and Gays pretty much you better look for another career because it is over with.

June 18, 2009 at 12:07 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

vmirat90 (anonymous) says...

abit, and lovely, I couldn't agree more. I think most of these volatile posters need to get a life. I mean, seriously. If you get your jollies by insulting others, or maybe using "talking points" that you have stolen from others to get your skewed agenda across, so be it, but you have nothing else going on in your life. The only thing that I can call you is pathetic.

June 18, 2009 at 12:09 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Chicago_Thug (anonymous) says...

DePass posted on Facebook about Michelle Obama, wasnt just an off the wall remark, he had to sit there and type it, and post it...WTH was he thinking?

He was a former chairman of the Richland County GOP. Not some punk kid typing crap for the heck of it.

As for the NAACP, I could care less what they say, when they condemn the good Rev Wright for his racist and anti-semitic comments, let me know.

June 18, 2009 at 12:25 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

vmirat90 (anonymous) says...

CT. I agree completely. People on this thread seem to be dismissing it however by saying that other people have said things...yeah? So what- it doesn't excuse this fool. He needs to own up to what he said- his "apology" sure didn't seem like one to me.....

June 18, 2009 at 12:31 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

eyfigueroa (anonymous) says...

CNN: I dislike the fact that it's become more and more difficult for anyone to freely express their opinion without being labled an 'ist'.

I will definitely admit to committing the same crime myself on occasion.

We have become too sensitive and too politically correct.

And thanks to organizations who have outlived their usefulness such as the NAACP, it's become media fodder when ANYONE missteps.

For DePass to legitimize their constant race-baiting by apologizing to the Black community via their forum only serves to exacerbate the very real problem of a racial divide.

NAACP picks at scabs at an attempt to remain a 'voice' in America's consciousness.

I for one am tired of their shenanigans and Mr. DePass only made himself look more foolish by standing with them.

His stupidity is what should get him 'fired' from politics not his personal beliefs.

June 18, 2009 at 12:36 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

kostanza (anonymous) says...

I'm just glad it wasn't a panda that escaped!

June 18, 2009 at 1:08 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

mb300sl (anonymous) says...

Or a zebra...

June 18, 2009 at 1:29 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

WhatMeWorry (anonymous) says...

Again, can you hear the voices of the CEOs thinking of basing their businesses in SC after reading this article and these posts?

"Ummm... no."

June 18, 2009 at 1:36 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

zoomru (anonymous) says...

Depass......!!!!!!

Front and CENTER....!!!

You Sir have displayed ....WHAT ???

Conduct un-becoming a SC resident...that's WHAT !?!

Furthermore YOU Waste a perfect time to UNIFY the citizens across OUR state....!?!?!

As with WAR, the montra goes "Divide..and you shall be conquered" and ALSO ....."Unify to win"...!!!!! Mr. Depass your blatant lack of display of UNITY at this press conference is unbelievable...!!!!!! Do you know what all citizens across our state have in common......??

1) WIND ENERGY.....
2) TRASH ENERGY......
3) FARMING ENERGY from ALGAE Bio-Diesel....!!
4) Rate increase from electric COOPS that benefit FOREIGN COAL instead of Nuclear workers in AIken.....!!!!!

Mr. Depass.....YOUR FIRED !!!!!!

June 18, 2009 at 1:37 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Lovely_One (anonymous) says...

vmirat90 and C_T, I was thinking the same thing about some of the posters here legitimizing this idiots comments by saying, "well, (insert black person's name here) made racist remarks" or "blacks make way more racist remarks every day", etc! That is as weak a justification as saying "well, whites kill in mass so the score is even" (when arguing about black on black crime).

June 18, 2009 at 1:41 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

theronce (anonymous) says...

WhatMe, I live in SC and have zoomru by my side. Now what would make you think that I care one whit about some fictional CEO thinks. He'll either come here for the golf or not.

June 18, 2009 at 1:48 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

WhatMeWorry (anonymous) says...

That's the spirit, theronce! What does South Carolina need with those filthy CEOs and their business and industry and tax base and profits and philanthropy and white collar jobs and blue collar jobs and all that garbage! We'll just march on with our awesome economy based on golf, retirees, tourism and a rich history of indigo! It's working out just fine so far...

June 18, 2009 at 2:05 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

guidedbystewart (anonymous) says...

"Now what would make you think that I care one whit about some fictional CEO thinks."

The reason you don't care is probably because you are either retired, or not unemployed. Yet I am sure the thousands of people in this State that are either unemployed or underemployed definitely do!

June 18, 2009 at 2:09 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Lovely_One (anonymous) says...

Does DePass's expression remind anyone of a certain Televangelist when he was apologizing to his congregation and God for "sinning against them"?

June 18, 2009 at 2:11 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

lloyd007 (anonymous) says...

...Typical GOP
...Typical Racism
...Typical Conferderalist Mentality
...Typical Fake Christians
...Typical Bottom of the barrel, Ignorant, Inbreeding
...Typical Speaking from the heart and getting caught
...Typical good old boy way of life
... In General, Typical Good ole South Carolina

APOLOGY NOT ACCEPTED...

June 18, 2009 at 2:17 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

vmirat90 (anonymous) says...

Lovely..it's funny you made that Swaggart reference. My favorite thing about that whole saga, other than his crying on cue on camera..."I have sinned!", is that fact that he was busted driving in a part of town known for hookers. He said..
"Oh, I'm just looking for our transmitter..". Uh huh, believe that, and I have some passes to the 700 Club to give you...

June 18, 2009 at 2:24 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Lovely_One (anonymous) says...

vmirat...LMAO @ the 700 Club tickets! Yep, Jimmy was the best. My Grandma used to watch him religiously...no pun intended...and when that mess came out about him she dropped him like a $2.00 hooker....all puns intended!

June 18, 2009 at 2:35 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

vmirat90 (anonymous) says...

LOL!! that sad thing is...and my grandmother was the nicest, most genuine person in the world. If you came to her door and needed money, she would give it to you...anyone- didn't matter if she knew them or not. She must have given over 10K in cash to PTL..she cried when Jim Bakker was arrested. There should be a special place in hell for those people..if there really is a hell...

June 18, 2009 at 2:51 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

fred_durst1 (anonymous) says...

A public figure makes a racial slur on Facebook.

How stupid can you be?

June 18, 2009 at 3:03 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

shoelaces (anonymous) says...

SARK.....So, if we are COUSINS with apes, that would make the gorilla Michelle's cousin, right? Would that have been accepted?

BALLUCHULISH....Laura Bush killed someone???? When did I miss that little tid-bit?

June 18, 2009 at 3:08 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

BetterAmericanThanYou (anonymous) says...

Judging from South Carolina's political leaders, I am certainly glad that my company chose not to build a manufacturing facility and distribution center there. I can't imagine raising my family in such a place.

June 18, 2009 at 3:10 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

mypointofview (anonymous) says...

I've never cared for the "if you don't like it, leave it" mentality, but to those of you who seem to have an almost-pathological hatred for South Carolina, you really should consider moving elsewhere. Seriously, I think it would be much better for your health and well being. Life's too short.

June 18, 2009 at 3:10 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

shoelaces (anonymous) says...

As at least a 4th generation Charlestonian and a person deeply proud of my family's southern heritage, I don't feel embarrassed by DePass's statement.

There are plenty of ignorant people around who think certain ways. That is their prerogative. He just should have known better than to post on FB....THAT truly shows a great deal of ignorance and arrogance.

June 18, 2009 at 3:12 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

theronce (anonymous) says...

What and Guide, I have to apologize. I poorly expressed what I wanted to point out the state of the state today. As long as the legislature is antagonistic to business and education is in the toilet, I see no reason for business to move to SC. The labor is cheap, but much of it is too uneducated or know-it-all too train. I don't see any changes coming, so it's business as usual with the same results.

June 18, 2009 at 3:14 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

vmirat90 (anonymous) says...

hey, anything's better that living in the uptight upstate. If it were up to those Bob Jones Univ disciples, if you didn't go to church on sunday, you would be thrown in jail. Don't even think about trying to have a beer either.

Be thankful you live in such a diverse and lively town.

June 18, 2009 at 3:15 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

charleston1960 (anonymous) says...

lloyd - are we hitting the sauce before 5:00?
What are your trying to say, only a GOP can be racist?

June 18, 2009 at 3:21 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Lovely_One (anonymous) says...

vm, do we have the same grandmother because I proise you she was the same way. In fact, both my grandmothers were. God bless them and may they rest in peace.

Back to the article. Does Mr. DePass really think that by apologizing to the NAACP he is making amends to the entire black community? Granted, what he said doesn't really bother me because my grandma always said, "it's not what they call you but what you answer to that matters." However, it seems that he, like so many others, feel that the NAACP represents all blacks and that just isn't true!

June 18, 2009 at 3:21 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

charleston1960 (anonymous) says...

BetterAmericanThanYou
If you are glad that you are not living here in South Carolina, then why even engage on this board which resides in South Carolina. Unless...someone is telling a little...(hmm wait can I say white with out being called a racist? Oh well, I will say it anyway)... unless someone is telling a little white lie!

June 18, 2009 at 3:29 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

vmirat90 (anonymous) says...

ya never know, lovely...I have some stories that I could tell about her! She wasn't the sharpest knife in the drawer, but she more than made up for that with her heart.

Every wednesday, when I first got out of college (I'm 40 now, so this was 1990), they insisted on taking me to a fine seafood restarant. In their minds (they were very frugal), Red Lobster fit the bill. I not only appreciated the free meal at the tender age of 22, but I also loved their company. I didn't ever have the heart to tell them that Red Lobster was hardly fine seafood..LOL. Makes me long for those days again!

June 18, 2009 at 3:29 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

eyfigueroa (anonymous) says...

"...it seems that he, like so many others, feel that the NAACP represents all blacks and that just isn't true!"

Not according to the liberal leaning general media OR the conservative talk show pundits OR the passle of ig'nent posters on this site OR the NAACP OR the mis- and ill-informed voters.

Apparently the number of people who think like you and I is extremely low.

*sigh*

June 18, 2009 at 3:39 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Lovely_One (anonymous) says...

eyfig, sighing right back at ya. It is very sad that people still feel as if "we" need a group like the NAACP, no matter how insignificant they truly are. I can't say it often or loud enough, "THEY DO NOT SPEAK FOR ME!"

June 18, 2009 at 3:46 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

UrGatorbait (anonymous) says...

Wow what a thread for all the local bigots...no wonder this jerk water state is last in the good and near the top in the bad.

I love the state of SC, its the inhabitants that make it the way it is. They are the ones that should up and leave. The love it or leave it argument is when you have nothing else to counter the logic or facts. I wouldn't expect anything less from the heritage not hate monkeys.

The level of stupidity is displayed when people argue the merits of why a CEO wouldn't want to relocate to SC. Good stuff indeed.

The NAACP has shrunk to level of discourse that is demonstrated by our local bigots. They are insignificant and have outlived there usefulness, just like some of the locals.

June 18, 2009 at 3:49 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

kostanza (anonymous) says...

NAACP...National Association of Adults Cuddling Panda's...they're grrrrreat!

June 18, 2009 at 3:49 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

vmirat90 (anonymous) says...

Ur....thank god you said that. I am so tired of the love it or leave it crowd myself. Hey, I grew up here- longer than most of the posters I am willing to wager, but if I see things that I don't like, you bet your arse I am going to say something. Nothing says true ignorance like the bumper sticker "I don't give a damn how you did it up north!". War is over boys, move on.

June 18, 2009 at 4 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

eyfigueroa (anonymous) says...

kostanza, are you here all week?

June 18, 2009 at 4:01 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Sark (anonymous) says...

"SARK.....So, if we are COUSINS with apes, that would make the gorilla Michelle's cousin, right? Would that have been accepted?"

Really? Are you serious? Of course not. Either way it's obvious that the statement is not about their common membership in the hominini genus and more about Michelle being a member of what is technically called the Negroid racial category.

June 18, 2009 at 4:02 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

shoelaces (anonymous) says...

Maybe Letterman and DePasse can hang out together...they are both cut from the same cloth....people who will say or do anything just for a cheap laugh...too bad it isn't funny.

June 18, 2009 at 4:09 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

vmirat90 (anonymous) says...

the problem is that Letterman was funny years ago- kind of like Don Imus was...15 years ago. DePasse is just an ignorant moron trying to make a funny.

June 18, 2009 at 4:14 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

vmirat90 (anonymous) says...

now Letterman is a shell of what he once was, and Imus is just a drooling old fool.

June 18, 2009 at 4:15 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Lovely_One (anonymous) says...

kostanza, you are one of my new faves! Love those pandas!

June 18, 2009 at 4:15 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

CaliforniaMike (anonymous) says...

I used to live in Anderson, and I have come back to Carolina to visit every time I get the chance. I think Charleston is on a short list of the most wonderful cities in the world, and I know folks up north can be fairly ignorant about the hearts of Southerners.

Still, I was upset to see DePass's comment, because I knew it would be good for another round of Carolina-bashing. "You're ignorant, you're backward, you're racist."

When I tell people I grew up in the South, some of them -- doubtless meaning well -- say I was lucky I escaped.

I somehow can't explain to them that there is no place in America more beautiful than the Low Country, and that a lot of the people they call "racist" have good hearts and would never do anything to hurt anyone.

I tried it once or twice. My friends looked at me funny and said something like, "You can take the boy out of the South ..."

When I retire, I'll come home.

June 18, 2009 at 4:27 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

vmirat90 (anonymous) says...

You're right on alot of points, Mike. However, there is no question that there are quite a bit of racists around, even in the lowcountry. Just last week I saw some bubba in a pickup truck with a bumper sticker that said.."If I'd known this, I'd picked my own cotton". First of all, he was too stupid to have any money, much less own slaves. Probably never been to a dentist in his life either, I'll bet.

He will get his, though. I am waiting for his bubba mobile to break down in the east side. I am sure he will make some new friends.

June 18, 2009 at 4:34 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

shoelaces (anonymous) says...

Continuing the posts just helps continue what many have deemed "racist and bigotted" talk....

DePass owes Mrs. Obama an apology, and no one else. It does not need to go any farther and the discussion should end as well.

June 18, 2009 at 4:40 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

kostanza (anonymous) says...

...you know what I love more than a good hot topic on post and courier.com.....beer! So I'm going to go have some, possibly lots!

June 18, 2009 at 4:44 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

vmirat90 (anonymous) says...

I hear you. Considering a few pops myself tonight, kostanza. FYI- we have chimed in on the beer column in the preview section.

"Work is the curse of the drinking class"
-Oscar Wilde

June 18, 2009 at 4:49 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

eyfigueroa (anonymous) says...

I agree shoelaces. Let's put this to bed.

Hey Mike! We'll see 'ya when you get back.

It seems like EVERYONE comes back home.

:-)

June 18, 2009 at 4:59 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

vmirat90 (anonymous) says...

wish some would stay away...

June 18, 2009 at 5:02 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

omarro1974 (anonymous) says...

Depass didn't have to say what he said about Michelle Obama.

That being said, why did he?

What purpose did it serve?

DePass did not have to apologize to anyone. He's not an elected official. He's a private citizen.

That being said, why did he apologize?

What purpose did it serve?

June 18, 2009 at 5:11 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

vmirat90 (anonymous) says...

he wants to hold office in the future, plain and simple. I say that MO gets to kick him in the nuts. Then say it's over.

June 18, 2009 at 5:13 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Liberals_Are_Maroons (anonymous) says...

Posted by Lovely_One on June 18, 2009 at 2:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)

vmirat...LMAO @ the 700 Club tickets! Yep, Jimmy was the best. My Grandma used to watch him religiously...no pun intended...and when that mess came out about him she dropped him like a $2.00 hooker....all puns intended!
****************************************************

What I found stunning what the homeliness of the hooker he was patronizing. (Shudder). Even by $10 hooker standards she was butt ugly.

June 18, 2009 at 5:21 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Lovely_One (anonymous) says...

Liberals_Are_Maroons, considering that he was not a gem...no pun intended....himself, I'd say he got a bargain!

June 18, 2009 at 5:24 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

abitskeptical (anonymous) says...

shoelaces-Laura Bush ran a stop sign at about 8pm when she was 17. The driver of another car going through the intersection died as a result of the accident caused by her running the stop sign.

So if one wants to be inflammatory one could say she "killed someone". But a more truthful & accurate description would be to say that when she was a teenager, her careless driving resulted in the death of another.

I'm curious as to how ballachullish would characterize the Ted Kennedy-Mary Jo "situation". Somehow I doubt she would say that good ole Ted "killed" someone.

"Lipstick on a pig" might not be a racial slur, but comparing in a negative way or drawing a derogatory correlation between animals & a person for the sake of a laugh, criticism, or put down is in poor taste regardless of how one tries to spin it.

Of course not all "animal" comparisons are meant as a put down. Everyone says one of my daughters looks like a gazelle when she runs & it is meant as a compliment.

June 18, 2009 at 6:16 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

TheTruthFighter (anonymous) says...

Yes, what the man said was horrible and unforgivable. If I was him, there is no way I would give a press conference at the NACCP headquarters and I am black. My problem is this, why does the NAACP pick and choose, minor issues to fight? There are still laws on the books here in SC that a Black man can not become Gov. of this state. Why are they not fighting major issues? Why don't the state charter of the NAACP protest that sorry condition of our children education in Dillon, Charleston and other rural parts of the shame on I-95 Corridor? When they start to tackle serious issues, then and only then will I take them seriously. Until then, please sit down!

June 18, 2009 at 7 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

shoelaces (anonymous) says...

SKEPTICAL.....Thank you. I had never heard that story before and I am going to assume (foolishly, perhaps) that it is true. That is a tragic event and I am sure the former First Lady is haunted it still.

Great comments on Kennedy.

There was a recent internet joke regarding Sarah Palin hosting the NEW white house (Obama, Biden, H. Clinton)....I remember Cheney would be their hunting guide, and Ted Kennedy would be their driver, and Monica Lewinski would entertain...something like that.....it was funny just the same :)

June 18, 2009 at 7:09 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

vmirat90 (anonymous) says...

somebody who posts in this board is definitely a legend in his own mind.

June 18, 2009 at 8:15 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

yird (anonymous) says...

Posted by ballachulish on June 18, 2009 at 6:58 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Hawg,
"Lipstick on a pig" is a common expression, not a racially charged epithet.
Just because a self-described lipstick wearing pitbull b*tch used the expression to once again bring attention to herself, does not mean Obama was referring to her.

pitbull b*tch,? Have you taken a good look at Michelle Obama lately? She's not exactly the epitome of beauty in the eyes of any beholder. She also has a disposition to match her appearance.

What is so gratifying is the unabashed hate that Sarah Palin is generating in left wing losers.

She's beautiful and intelligent with far more real experience than the present occupant of the white house and this poses a real enigma for the left. How do you combat her short of ad hominem attacks or outright lies?

As for this jerk who made the idiotic remark about the first lady, his level of intelligence qualifies him to work at a lower pay grade, bagging groceries might be about right.

June 18, 2009 at 10:22 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

charleston1960 (anonymous) says...

vmir
"Just last week I saw some bubba in a pickup truck with a bumper sticker that said.."If I'd known this, I'd picked my own cotton". First of all, he was too stupid to have any money, much less own slaves. Probably never been to a dentist in his life either, I'll bet."

That 'bubba', I am willing to wager has a name, he probably has a job, he may have a college degree and perhaps could be a dentist. However, that 'bubba' is a slave to stereotyping derived by presumptuous moronic statements like yours.

You are no better than the racists you presume to attack.

June 19, 2009 at 7:12 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

vmirat90 (anonymous) says...

well, charleston...thanks for letting me know that you support that way of thinking. Bravo. If he is a dentist, or work in any sort of customer service or sales capacity, then he is an idiot by completely eliminating a huge portion of possible customers.

And yes, I will attack racists and racists thought whenever I see it. If you want to still live on the plantation in your own mind, have at it. I prefer to live in the world of progress in the 21st century.

Have a great day, however...and good luck to you.

June 19, 2009 at 7:30 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

WhatMeWorry (anonymous) says...

I think Charleston1960 must have misunderstood vmirat's post. He wrote, "that 'bubba' is a slave to stereotyping derived by presumptuous moronic statements" in response to vmirat's comment on "bubba's" bumber sticker that read, "If I'd known this, I'd picked my own cotton."

Charleston1960, in what way did vmirat "stereotype?" He called the guy a racist because he has a bumper sticker that leaves no room for interpretation.

June 19, 2009 at 8:14 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

vmirat90 (anonymous) says...

absolutely, what...there is no other way to interpret that bumper sticker- he has literally defined himself as a racist, period. If he wants to live that way, so be it, but don't defend him.

June 19, 2009 at 8:33 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

yird (anonymous) says...

Black Rednecks and White Liberals, by Thomas Sowell.

Read it!

June 19, 2009 at 8:41 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

eyfigueroa (anonymous) says...

That bumper sticker is on the same level as a t-shirt someone wearing while sitting on a motorcycle stopped at a traffic light. The picture was taken via phone and became a viral pic on the web.

"It's called the WHITE House for a reason"

VMIrat90, I may not defend an individual's beliefs, however I do defend the right for them to hold and express them.

I prefer that such nonsense be made public. Helps you to decide who you want to associate with.

I wish more people would be as forthright in their contempt of me. Especially if it's based solely on my skin color, race or ethnicity.

It's the folk who hide their TRUE nature that I fear.

June 19, 2009 at 8:48 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

vmirat90 (anonymous) says...

harold, I will probably never agree with you on anything, but do respect your right to your opinion. Hey, at least you are saying what's on your mind.

Ey, yes, I am fully in favor of freedom of speech- however, with that comes responsibility as well as scrutiny. If you choose to have a bumper sticker like that, I reserve the right to call you a moron. Freedom of speech does work both ways.

June 19, 2009 at 9:04 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

vmirat90 (anonymous) says...

I never implied that it was yours- please don't think that I did.

If I ever was going to confront anyone- it would be directly.

June 19, 2009 at 9:16 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

charleston1960 (anonymous) says...

No I did not misread nor misunderstand his statement. Perhaps you misunderstood my intention. I will tone it down to a level that hopefully you can understand.

'First of all, he was too stupid to have any money, much less own slaves. Probably never been to a dentist in his life either, I'll bet."

I am not defending a bumper sticker. But to add statements like the one above is literal nonsense. That is stereotypical BS. Much is propagated along the lines as the other nonsensical statement made by another poster that alludes to typical GOP being typical racist. It is unjustifiable. Vmir states he is willing to bet the person was a non-working non dentist seeing person. You along with other posters here know he is transgressing the persona drawings of a rotten or toothless yokel person often associated with a name 'bubba' or even 'redneck' and is stereotyping at best. HE could have said the bumper sticker was a racist statement and allude to the fact the person is probably racist. No he did not do that he went further into describing, with 'stereotypical' statements, what he believed or for concentrated purposes what he was willing to bet the person was based on his presumptuous beliefs of what a racist tends to look or act like. His statement is no different than others who perceive a black person sitting on a fence eating watermelon. It is plain stereotyping a person.
I have seen racist with suits on with teeth to make their dentists proud. Heck, the article talks about one. The problem here is people throw the word racists around as if the only people that can fit the title are non-dentist seeing, SC native GOP people. So yes thank God for the free speech laws that allow me to call his statement moronic at best.

Until then, find the truck again, stop and ask him or her if he or she has been to the dentist in his or her life and I will take the bet that he or she has seen a dentist.

June 19, 2009 at 10:06 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

vmirat90 (anonymous) says...

yes, thank god for our freedoms...I can call your statements moronic as well...but hey, that is how it goes with free speech!

Have a wonderful day- that is my free speech for the day, wishing everyone a great weekend!

June 19, 2009 at 10:45 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

vmirat90 (anonymous) says...

harold, I am an independent, and just because we don't agree on alot of issues does not make me a liberal. Well compared to your place on the political spectrum, yeah, I guess it would "appear" that I am liberal.

I have never said I was a democrat.

June 19, 2009 at 11:02 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

kma71 (anonymous) says...

I want to go out drinking with Harold!!!!

June 19, 2009 at 11:03 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

vmirat90 (anonymous) says...

"tough fastball"

Pardon me why I laugh, oh sage one.

June 19, 2009 at 11:16 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

jcncamscott (anonymous) says...

This man's comment was funny as hell! Admit it, it's what most of us think about Ms. O.!!! You honestly CAN'T look at her and not think of a gorilla. However, as far as an apology, he should have shrugged it off and ignored people's comments. If he chose to apologize, it should have been to the 'beast' directly.

June 19, 2009 at 12:29 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

vmirat90 (anonymous) says...

wow jc...your clan rally is gathering in about 10 minutes..you better hurry..

June 19, 2009 at 12:42 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

jcncamscott (anonymous) says...

vm:

Not a member of the clan. I'm just tired people getting their panties in a wad over a remark and costing people their jobs, etc... And usually what's said (in jest)is what most people are thinking anyway! And unfortunately it's usually a 'racist' remark that does it.

June 19, 2009 at 12:58 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

vmirat90 (anonymous) says...

let me say this...if you honestly think that remark is funny, then you have deeper issues..seriously.

And if you don't think the guy that said it (worse yet, the idiot put it on facebook, so he had time to think about it) is a total moron, then I can't help you either.

I just sincerely hope that he is not in charge of something that is very important- ie a big company, or something like that, because his judgement is suspect at best. That is being very kind.

June 19, 2009 at 1:04 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

vmirat90 (anonymous) says...

Let me say this...if you said that Michelle Obama looked like a gorilla in your place of employment, and you work in the public sector where appearance is everything, you don't think that if you're not fired, you shouldn't at least be reprimanded?

Let's join the real world here.

June 19, 2009 at 1:06 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

omarro1974 (anonymous) says...

Not a member of the clan. I'm just tired people getting their panties in a wad over a remark and costing people their jobs, etc... And usually what's said (in jest)is what most people are thinking anyway! And unfortunately it's usually a 'racist' remark that does it.
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You put the word racist in quotation marks as if there is doubt what this fool said was racist. People should lose their jobs when their conduct is unbecoming of a person who (in theory) deserves respect. It's not that people are becoming super-sensitive, it that people have to realize that this is not the world of 40-50 years ago, where women and minorities can be marginalized with little or no regard for their concerns. You can't just say and do what you want to and expect no repercussions anymore. As far as the NAACP is concerned, the tone of most of the responses shows you why the NAACP is still relevant. Too many people think that hate speech should be downgraded and minimized as "just a joke" or "he was raised in a different time" and somehow that makes it okay. It's not.

DePass isn't upset about what he said, he's upset that one of his friends didn't call him quickly enough so that he could erase his posting before the media got hold to it. If he calls MO that on a facebook posting, what do you think he says about MO and BO behind closed doors?

And how could any sane person defend it?

June 19, 2009 at 1:30 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

WhatMeWorry (anonymous) says...

charleston1960, I see your point about stereotyping the guy with the bumper sticker.

Stereotyping can become a very gray and complicated topic. Stereotyping is really just playing the odds. Is it ethical? No, but it's human nature.

Odds are good that a guy driving an old, beat up pickup with a bumber sticker that says "If I'd known this, I'd picked my own cotton" is a poor racist non-dentist. I'm not saying it's a given, but I'd put down some cash on it. In fact, I'd bet a month's paycheck that there's not a single dentist in the U.S. driving an old beat up pickup with that sticker on it.

Likewise, as you allude to, I'd bet that an 18 year old African American male wearing pants down around his knees with the handle of a hand gun sticking out the back, an over-sized t-shirt, and a sideways cap is more likely to mug me than a clean-cut 30 year-old African American male in a suit carrying a briefcase. Could I be wrong? Sure, but I make that bet every time I walk down the street in Charleston.

The division between "those who are good at evaluating probablity" and "racists" occurs somewhere in the middle of our triangle of white guy with sticker, black kid with gun, and well-dressed man with briefcase (race irrelevent).

When people make assumptions and act on them based on feelings that are not true to the reality of the statistics, that's racism.

June 19, 2009 at 1:51 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

vmirat90 (anonymous) says...

well said, Omarro.

June 19, 2009 at 1:54 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Sark (anonymous) says...

"I was called a racist once when I said I didn't endorse interracial marriage b/c of the damage to the children produced by those marriages. Those were my feelings then and still are. Never could figure out how my feelings and opinions, though diffrerent from others, I never said one race was superior or inferior to the other. I have never used the n... word, how many can say that?"

to HAROLD: Why yes, that would make you a racist. The reason it makes you a racist is because you believe that the color of someone's skin is even relevant. You're quite literally judging someone by the color of their skin, rather than by the content of their character. The only reason that interracial marriage produces "damaged" children (a dubious statement to begin with) is because of the attitudes of a rapidly shrinking segment of society that you are a part of.

June 19, 2009 at 2:39 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

ltgrunt (anonymous) says...

"Don't look for liberals to have any reasonable response to a tough fastball thrown down the pipe. They run back and crawl under the rock when confronted with the truth. ... Given a chance at a fair dialogue, I'm sure I could shed that "racist" scab on my posts."

So you're completely and writing off all liberals according to your prejudices and then talking about how you want a chance at a fair dialogue? Do you see the irony there, Harold? It's kind of hard to miss.

June 19, 2009 at 2:48 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

omarro1974 (anonymous) says...

My heavens>
"The last 2 posts have brought me to my knees. You 2 are not worthy of a Harold response. I am busy hanging posters of Michelle O' in her diva outfits (which National Geographic will undoubtedly publish). Sarah Palin couldn't possibly compete w/ this humanoid."

Harold is a troll. Do not feed him.

He is right now sitting in his basement in a depend undergarment listening to "The best of Rush" while waiting for the meds to kick in. You know, the ones that make the voices go away. Or he is working on his master's thesis on the oppressed white male.
Or maybe just watching "Who's nailin' Paylin" on the Spice channel.

Who knows?

Who cares?

All I know is this...do not feed the troll.

June 19, 2009 at 5:48 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

vmirat90 (anonymous) says...

I have said it before, Omarro...he fancies himself an internet tough guy- so easy to be a rude jerk behind an anonymous username.

I am not impressed. It is definitely a sign of insecurity.

He is probably the kind of guy that guys to church on sunday and tells everyone what a good Christian he is. What a hypocrite.

June 19, 2009 at 6:08 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )