Driver arrested, faces criminal charge
Injured teen to be moved to specialized facility
By Glenn Smith
The driver of an all-terrain vehicle that crashed, injuring a Summerville teen last month, faces a criminal charge after investigators determined she had marijuana and prescription drugs in her system at the time of the wreck, police said.
Katrina Elsworth
Investigators on Monday arrested the driver, 32-year-old Katrina Elsworth, on a charge of contributing to the delinquency of a minor. She was released on $3,000 bail, Summerville police Capt. Jon Rogers said.
Kayla Beczynski, 15, was left paralyzed May 16 when she and Elsworth were thrown from a fast-moving ATV that crashed in a wooded area near the Sawmill Branch Trail north of Luden Drive. Beczynski was a passenger.
Police said Elsworth was driving fast and had Beczynski on an ATV that was designed for a single rider. Neither Elsworth nor Beczynski wore a helmet, according to an arrest affidavit.
Beczynski remains hospitalized, authorities said. Elsworth reportedly suffered minor injuries.
Elsworth told police she took two prescription medications before the ride. She said she had taken Adderall, a stimulant commonly used to treat attention-deficit hyperactivity disorder, and Diazepam, a sedative used as anti-anxiety medicine, authorities said.
Tests determined Ellsworth had marijuana, an amphetamine and benzodiazepine in her blood, according to an arrest affidavit.
State law defines contributing to the delinquency of a minor, in part, as an adult acting in such a way as to "willfully injure or endanger" a minor's health. If convicted, Elsworth faces a maximum punishment of three years in prison and a $3,000 fine.
Nicole Getsinger, Beczynski's aunt, said her niece is showing signs of improvement but still faces a long recovery. The fact that she lived is a miracle, Getsinger said, and the family credits the efforts of Summerville Fire and Rescue to revive her that evening.
To help
Funds are being raised to offset the medical and recovery expenses for Kayla Beczynski, a 15-year-old Summerville girl left paralyzed by a May 16 all-terrain vehicle accident. Donations can be made to "Courage for Kayla" at Charleston Area Community Credit Union branches.
Beczynski will be transferred this week to the Shepherd Center, a catastrophic care hospital in Atlanta, for specialized care, Getsinger said.
"Really, deeply and truly I believe that she will be walking and talking again soon," Getsinger said.
In the meantime, family and friends are raising money to offset her
medical and recovery expenses.
The wreck occurred as state legislators were considering a bill that would set restrictions on ATV use. The bill cleared the House of Representatives but stalled in the Senate.
The measure is dubbed "Chandler's Law," after a 16-year-old boy who was killed in an ATV accident in May 2003. Some 44 states across the nation have ATV safety laws.
The bill would bar children younger than 6 from driving an ATV and limit the engine power for drivers between 6 and 16 years old. The measure would require youths 15 and younger to wear safety glasses and helmets while driving or riding on an ATV. Operators 15 and younger also would have to complete a safety course.
The proposal also would bar anyone from operating an ATV in a reckless manner or under the influence of alcohol or other controlled substances.
Gov. Mark Sanford has twice vetoed ATV safety legislation, saying the measures would infringe on property rights and personal freedoms. Sanford also criticized safety courses as a hidden tax on families.
In South Carolina, more than 100 people died in ATV crashes between 1982 and 2007, according to the U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission. Of those who died, 28 were children younger than 16, authorities said.
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oslo59 (anonymous) says...
Sanford vetoed a bill to get ATV riders educated when you have people like Elsworth out there acting like the drugged-out fools that they are because it would infringe on their property rights and personal freedoms?! There are 44 other states with such laws as well?! Sanford is an idiot, plain and simple! My thoughts and prayers go out to Kayla for a quick and complete recovery. AS for Elsworth: Get treatment for your drug addiction!!
June 16, 2009 at 6:56 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
ForPnC (anonymous) says...
Must be a slow news day. Isn't this the same article from yesterday?
June 16, 2009 at 7:03 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
realamerican (anonymous) says...
This is why you do not answer questions from the police without a lawyer present.
Guilty or not.
June 16, 2009 at 7:18 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
theronce (anonymous) says...
32 year old Elsworth knew what she was doing was wrong, and no school was needed to tell her or could have stopped her.
June 16, 2009 at 7:22 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
GAL2000 (anonymous) says...
ELSWORTH, KATRINA KAY
Arrest Date: 02/14/2002
Warrant/Citation: A117907
Charleston County Courts
Description: IMPROPER START OF VEHICLE
Statute Charged: 56-05-2110
Warrant Filed: 03/04/2002
Event Description: BENCH TRIAL
Sentence: NRVC $150
Fines/Costs: 150.00
Apparantly she also may need to re-think about operating moving vehicles safely as in the above incident from the year 2002.
Miss Kayla Beczynski, I wish the best for you and in your recovery. Please don't give up, your family and friends are always with you.
June 16, 2009 at 7:25 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Tulane75 (anonymous) says...
What relevance does the 2002 charge have to this incident? And what does improper start of a vehicle mean anyway?
June 16, 2009 at 7:49 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
BulldogTLC (anonymous) says...
ATV Arrest Warrent???? Proofread please....
As for the ATV law that was vetoed - it would not have prevented a thing. It is just one more instance of government trying to pass something that they do not have the ability to enforce. It is already against the law to operate a vehicle under the influence. There are already warnings all over ATV's from the manufacturer stating that they are not designed to carry passengers. There are already manufacturer recommendations concerning the appropriate age for different class ATV's. There are already signs stating no vehicles on Sawmill Branch Trail. This law would not have required any training for the driver of this ATV, she was well over 15. And if they ignored the laws and manufacturer warnings, it is doubtful that they would have obeyed a helmet law.
June 16, 2009 at 7:54 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
jammer (anonymous) says...
improper start of a vehicle means she probably cut off a cop at a stop sign and he got pissed n pulled her...
start = start moving from a stop... my dad got a ticket like that many yrs ago for cutting off a cop... lol
what this woman did is the same thing as DUI, throw the book at her not just because she hurt someone else but to set an example as well
June 16, 2009 at 8:07 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
highclass (anonymous) says...
3 years for almost killing a child?! Is this her first drug charge? Probably not! Is this the first time she has endangered a child? Probably not! Child Endangerment seems more like what she should be charged with? I saw her husband on the news what an mean little man!
June 16, 2009 at 8:13 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
besttm (anonymous) says...
I hate to play devil's advodate, but...
Did Ms. Elsworth forcibly put a 15-year old on the back of her ATV and force her not to wear a helmet?
Yes, Ms. Elsworth acted in an irresponsible and negligent manner. However, at 15 an individual should know the difference between right and wrong, safe and unsafe, smart and stupid.
I hope the young girl makes a complete recovery. Perhaps she will become a spokesperson for ATV safety.
June 16, 2009 at 8:45 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
ml913 (anonymous) says...
She could easily have been charged with Felony DUI which has a maximum 25 year sentence. It doesn't have to be a car for it to be DUI, only a self-propelled vehicle, and she caused great bodily injury to someone other than herself...I say she is pretty lucky to only be charged with Contributing to the Delinquency of a Minor.
June 16, 2009 at 8:59 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
maeko (anonymous) says...
i am very glad to hear Kayla is doing well. i know that the outlook was grim at the beginning.
as i have said before, i believe the law should treat operators of all motorized vehicles, from lawns mower, to mopeds, ATV's, boats, etc., the same as automobiles. You must have a driver's license or learner's permit to drive because the consequences of mishandling are the same. this would not have prevented this accident, however.
agreed, besttm. while Ms. Ellsworth was clearly negligent, a typical 15 yr old does have some ability to make judgments about what is reasonably safe or unsafe. on that note, i wasn't there and don't know the details. for all i know, the kid was under the impression that ATV's are perfectly safe because she had no experience with them. that would again point to Ellsworth's gross negligence.
June 16, 2009 at 9:42 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
BulldogTLC (anonymous) says...
"i am very glad to hear Kayla is doing well. i know that the outlook was grim at the beginning." maeko
"Kayla Beczynski, 15, was left paralyzed May 16 when she and Elsworth were thrown from a fast-moving ATV that crashed in a wooded area near the Sawmill Branch Trail north of Luden Drive."
She's doing well?
June 16, 2009 at 9:48 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
coolfreaknbeans (anonymous) says...
Katrina also tested positive for weed. So she was on valium, adderall and weed.To besttm, I'm quite sure Katrina didn't say, "Hey I'm high as a kite, wanna go ride ?" Whether a child is old enough to "know better" is irrelevant. Adults should not lure children to partake in illegal and dangerous activities. This woman is 110% white trash. They have no remorse for what happened. None. Her husband was interviewed yesterday. Ranting and raving.
June 16, 2009 at 9:52 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
tj (anonymous) says...
Wow how unbelievably sad! I hope the best for the young lady that was injured, how heartbreaking!
June 16, 2009 at 10:30 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Lovely_One (anonymous) says...
Dang, reems, what did you say? LOL!
"Adults should not lure children to partake in illegal and dangerous activities."
CFB, I agree wholeheartedly with what you said. Most kids trust that adults are doing the "right" thing and that if the adult is doing it then it must be okay. The logic of the 15 year old not being forced to ride on the ATV without a helmet is as weak as saying that those 15 year old students weren't forced to have sex with their teachers. They are both instances where the adult should have used better judgement and are to be held responsible for their actions.
June 16, 2009 at 10:34 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
realamerican (anonymous) says...
Posted by Lovely_One on June 16, 2009 at 10:34 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Dang, reems, what did you say? LOL!
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He probably called for this woman's execution as immoral knuckledraggers are prone to do.
June 16, 2009 at 10:38 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
maeko (anonymous) says...
"well" considering. i was told they were sure she would die and that she was in a coma on life support for a while. now they think she has a chance to walk and talk again. so, while it may not be an ideal situation to you and i, the family probably thinks her recover is going "well".
June 16, 2009 at 10:38 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
coolfreaknbeans (anonymous) says...
Ohhhh thats what happened haroldreems. Doesnt surprise me.
June 16, 2009 at 10:43 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Freespeach (anonymous) says...
Improper start is of vehicle is when someone spins tires as they are accelerating, or if they accelerate too quickly. In order to cut off a cop you have to be moving.
June 16, 2009 at 10:55 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
realamerican (anonymous) says...
Posted by haroldreems-
Note to self: Criticizing Nobama can get your post removed.
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Yeah, especially if it is on a topic not even remotely concerning your esteemed president. loL!
When will you learn? ha,ha,ha..loser.
June 16, 2009 at 10:56 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
BulldogTLC (anonymous) says...
Thanks Maeko - didn't know how bad off she was. Glad things are looking up and hope and pray that she will make a full recovery. Best wishes to her and her family during this difficult time.
June 16, 2009 at 11 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
ysillyme (anonymous) says...
Harold, Harold, Harold~
Seems like every other day one of your posts is getting removed. Try and stay in your own lane. Some of your rants negate the validity of your otherwise pretty good posts. See if your criticsim of the president can contain fewer adjectives. Just some advice old pal.
June 16, 2009 at 11:02 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
8BallGrammy (anonymous) says...
Kayla is recovering day by precious day and with the grace of God will recover 100%.
Making new laws will not prevent disasterous events such as this in the future. Enforcement of the present laws would go a long way.
People like the Elsworths think that laws and rules are meant to be broken because they do so on a daily basis with no repurcussions or consequences. Just because it was an accident doesn't mean that Mrs. Elsworth should not be held accountable and be allowed to just go on her merry way.
Mrs. Elsworth had no business taking a neighbor's child or anyone for a ride on the ATV - it was made for one person to ride.
Mrs. Elsworth had no business riding the ATV under the effects of the medication she was taking or the illegal drugs she was using.
The trailhead is clearly marked no motorized vehicles.
She was obviously in 4th gear at the time of the accident, which means she was definitely going "Too Fast for Conditions."
Can she not read.
Can she not reason (oh yeah, forgot about the drugs).
Mrs. Elsworth is probably one of the reasons why the hair dryer I recently purchased has a tag that reads "Do Not Use in the Shower."
June 16, 2009 at 11:07 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
jammer (anonymous) says...
"Posted by Freespeach on June 16, 2009 at 10:55 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Improper start is of vehicle is when someone spins tires as they are accelerating, or if they accelerate too quickly. In order to cut off a cop you have to be moving."
you're either a new cop or not one at all... I based my comment on what actually happened, not what I "think" happened, as I talked to the cop who wrote him as well
he was at a two way stop, stopped, and pulled out to the right into traffic when he saw he had a clearing... the cop was coming up very fast and decided because he had to slow down he'd write my dad...
he called it improper start for pulling out without enough of a clearing from oncoming traffic in his opinion, merely cause the cop was traveling too fast n got ticked that my dad slowed him down... just so happened to be vid camera's nearby that showed the cop haulin a*s, so dat was dat it was dropped... however the docket is still in the system because it went to court, but it shows no charge dismissed..
u shouldn't debate someone else's facts, this wasn't an opinion
June 16, 2009 at 11:15 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
jammer (anonymous) says...
although you are also correct Freespeach there are several things that define that charge...
June 16, 2009 at 11:17 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Lazy2009 (anonymous) says...
Do people ever ride 4 wheelers sober? I grew up in a state chock full of hills and I saw alot of people get mained by their four wheelers. I never understood the logic of letting an 80 pound kid drive something that will most likely flip over onto the driver during the course of ownership.
June 16, 2009 at 11:17 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
vmirat90 (anonymous) says...
Way to stay on topic, Harold.
June 16, 2009 at 11:18 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Lovely_One (anonymous) says...
I'm sure it was more to it than that, CFB!
June 16, 2009 at 11:19 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
coolfreaknbeans (anonymous) says...
She needs jail time. These people rant about how it was "just an accident". With that "logic", you could get piss drunk, crash into another car, causing catastrophic injuries and say, "It's just an accident." I don't think so. These people actually have the nerve to whine about Katrina's "injuries" ?! It disgusts me.
June 16, 2009 at 12:04 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
highclass (anonymous) says...
Katrina should pay for her crime. Her husband should pay for being so stupid! He was on the news whining about his wife, never mind the child who will lose a large part of her life. He embarassed himself on the news. Do the police still have time to upgrade the charges?
If her husband knew she was impaired why let his wife get on the ATV? Why let her ride a child? He should be charged as well.
June 16, 2009 at 1:06 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
AuntBird (anonymous) says...
I am Kayla's aunt- her mother's sister and I just wanted to clarify some things. I'm not sure why I came on here and read the comments today because when the accident first happened there were some very rough comments to read. Ones that really hurt to know that people felt that way. But today there is a completley different tone on the message board. I jsut wanted to clarify that while yes, Kayla is making great progress she is still on life support. The venitilator is hooked up to her tracea right now which this has allowed her to mouth words to us. Compared to the first couple of weeks she has jumped through hurdles! She has come to light and understands what has happened and where she is. We are all so very hopeful that she will make a full recovery and we know it will be a long road! So I ask that if you pray, please pray that she starts to breathe on her own. This would change many things for her. But keep hope because Kay is a strong girl and she is determined to recover from this. We know in our hearts that she is going to be okay, but we also know that there is a lot of work to be done. That is why we all have to come together for Kayla!
And on another note- For those of you that pull the whole 15 year olds can make their own decisions thing- Kayla was with someone she thought she could trust. But the truth is you can't trust anyone operating a vehicle of any kind at high speeds, on drugs, with a child on the back. Kayla let her mom know the other night that the last thing she remembers is asking Katrina to slow down.
Adults have the ability to make better choices to do things to not endanger themselves, their children, or other people's children as in the case with Kayla. Kids are very trusting individuals, but the fact is, Katrina and Jimmy are not people to be trusted.
Keep your hopes and prayers going for Kayla! She needs all of the support!
June 16, 2009 at 2:19 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
coolfreaknbeans (anonymous) says...
They are next door neighbors.
June 16, 2009 at 2:54 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
BulldogTLC (anonymous) says...
Her husband said "My wife is going to have to live with this the rest of her life...."
Bet she'll get it over it a lot easier than Kayla.....
AuntBird - I'm truly sorry for what your family is going through and wish Kayla the best. She sounds like a strong willed young lady and that is what it is going to take. My prayers are with her and her family. You guys need to stay strong for her as well. Don't let her see any doubt in you. She's going to need to know that everyone is believing in her. Miracles happen everyday and many times we take them for granted. No reason one can't happen for this beautiful young lady. Trust in the one who can make a difference and support her every STEP of the way. Once again, my thought and prayers are with her. God's speed....
June 16, 2009 at 2:58 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
coolfreaknbeans (anonymous) says...
"Bet she'll get it over it a lot easier than Kayla....." posted by BulldogTLC. Boy you hit the nail on the head. The day after the crash she went to pick up her new motorcycle registration. Whined to people about her back pain and hit up a bar a couple of times within 1-1/2 wks after the accident.
June 16, 2009 at 3:05 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
abitskeptical (anonymous) says...
Yep, she needs jail time.
She is a danger to others & needs to be removed from society for a reasonable amount of time. She needs to be grateful the girl did not die.
June 16, 2009 at 4:27 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
mypointofview (anonymous) says...
Appearing as a graphic in the article:
ATV Arrest Warrent - PDF
Dear lazy azz editors...it's WARRANT, not Warrent.
June 16, 2009 at 4:32 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
vmirat90 (anonymous) says...
I noticed that too, mypoint. Wow...no spell check? P and C never ceases to astound me.
June 16, 2009 at 5:01 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
BulldogTLC (anonymous) says...
Yeah - I pointed that out in my first post at 7:54 so they've had all day to fix it.... That is not even a word.
June 16, 2009 at 5:12 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Sara (anonymous) says...
First of all let me start this by saying that I am praying for Kayla and wish her full recovery. Second its amazing to me that people leave the comments they do on here. For example highclass calling Katrina's husband an angry little man. I wonder what your husband is like. Also someone asked how well these people knew each other... well they lived next door yeah but it was alot more then that. Carrie and Katrina were best friends! Do you think this is the first time Kayla rode the ATV with Katrina? Is it possible that Carrie knew the meds. that Katrina took? Im not making any excuses for anyone Im just saying there is a lot more to the story then what you all are looking at. It was an ACCIDENT and Katrina should have to have consequences but she did talk to the police without a lawyer and she also went in the hospital with a nervous break down. Shes not a cold hearted snake who doesnt feel any pain for what she has done. Kayla was also Katrinas sons best friend. Its a HORRIBLE situation for everyone that yes could of been avoided but it was not on purpose. I know a lot of people who ride ATVs all the time wthout helmets and 2 to the ride and everything. Its very sad this happened to everyone and I think the last thing anyone needs is a bunch of people sitiing around acting like they know something when the truth is they dont. As far as the meds she was on last time I checked they affect everyone different and what the police report said the prescription was for she obviously has a very high tolerance. As far as the weed goes she could of done that a number of days before she got on it YOU GUYS DONT KNOW! Its sad to me that people have nothing better to do then sit around and judge someone who they dont know and people who believe everything the news said. You dont think they edited that? Come on people WAKE UP! Let me go ahead and add that my spelling isnt perfect as we as humans do make errors. So before people go talking about my spelling lets go back to what this should be about which is Kayla. How many of you will be out there running for her and doing the car wash thats what I want to see. I know I will! Sorry if any of you took this the wrong way its meant to be for both sides not just Katrina's Im just smart enough to be looking at the whole picture! God bless all of them in this horrible time! As for you coolfreaknbeans you better hope what you posted is true cause if not that sounds like slander to me. Did you see her in the bars? Was you there when she picked her registration up? Last time I heard she was in the hospital as well. Im not a Katrina fan I know of her but i dont know her. I actually know someone else who knows her and im telling all of you her and her husband arent the animals yall are making them out to be! If they are then why did Carrie hang out with them and let her daughter hang out with them??? Just a question?
June 16, 2009 at 5:58 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
coolfreaknbeans (anonymous) says...
Last time I checked, you don't plan a "nervous breakdown". You better research slander, you idiot. You have no clue what your talking about. I'm not divulging how I know what I know, due to keeping anonymity. I wouldn't doubt it if you weren't the 1985 hair dirt bag yourself. If any of the "big words" in my post confused you, try this to decipher.
http://www.merriam-webster.com/
It's a link to a dictionary.
June 16, 2009 at 7:05 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Sara (anonymous) says...
if you read what i wrote it said I hope you know what your talking about! IF NOT that is slander. You must result in name calling? Thats really funny to me shows what kind of person you are. Did you ask your so called source if they are white trash why Carrie hung out with her and let her kid over there. Thats all Im saying no need for name callng and such childish BS. Im just saying there is more to the story then what you so called experts know. Im sure if they were white trash as you called them Carrie wouldnt of been friends with them. You think? Common Sense look that up on your web site!
June 16, 2009 at 7:22 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
AuntBird (anonymous) says...
Sara, I know Katrina. And yea, my sister and her were close. But about once a week I got a call from my sister talking about how nuts Katrina was. About how she was always stoned out of her mind. The fact is, regardless if she smoked days before, she was going 35-40 mph on that thing with Kayla on the back. And if you haven't met her, I wouldn't make assumptions because she is a flakey person. And her jerk of a husband is talking about his wife and how she has to live with it forever! Look at what Kayla has to live with. So don't come on here and defend her. She made irresponsible choices with a child I love in mind. OR maybe she didn't think of her. And trust me, I know what I'm talking about. The night after Kayla's accident Jimmy told their neighbor he went and saw Kayla and she had a few broken ribs, brain bleed, and went into cardiac arrest. He never saw her, he never came by. The night of the accident he called my sister after it all happened talking to her about how his wife was cheating on him and he found out that day because she left her phone at home. That is what he cared about, that is what he cares about, not Kayla's life. If you don't believe watch the video on abc news4. He shows what a jerk he is by his carrying on. If this was an accident I wouldn't be pissed. She was high as always. She lit up a joint at the fair in front of my mom for goodness sakes. They are not the brightest nor the kindest bunch. So from someone who has met them, been in there house, and has talked to my sister before this happened about them, take it from me, I know them. I saw them in court yesterday and she cried for herself and he complained about how it was an accident. Well it was her drug induced accident that led to my niece being paralyzed and having to survive by being on a machine that is hooked into the wall. So I know them, and you don't want to. Stand clear from them and keep your kids away from them if you have any. Sorry for being so blunt, but it makes me angry that you can stick up for Katrina. She is not a good person, enough said.
June 16, 2009 at 7:49 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Sara (anonymous) says...
Im not saying the situation is okay! I said that over and over. Katrina should face charges and yes i even agree that the contributing is a weak charge. Im just saying that the name calling and stuff is CRAZY! Has anyone stopped and thought if what most of you are saying is true then what does that say for Carrie for hanging out with Katrina and letting her daughter over there. Katrina cant be that big of a piece of crap are im sure Carrie wouldnt of been her friend. Everyone is so fast to judge and call names. It was a horrible accident why cant you guys leave it at that. Yes she needs help with drugs but then again why would a doctor give her those meds? Evryone seems to be on pills or have kids that are on them these days it doesnt make them all white trash. As far as the weed thing goes the person I know was shocked that she had weed in her system. But to talk trash about her husband who im sure is going through enough also. ( not taking anything away from Kayla) Just saying have a heart people you guys dont know whats going on and last time i checked the he said she said stuff was so middle school! Everyone has their thoughts I understand that I didnt call anyone names I just gave my thoughts on that. Why did you feel the need to name call? As far as planning a breakdown.... i guess your source told you that to what are they a fly on the wall. Maybe you should look into some anger mangement classes, if someone giving you their thoughts can make you that upset. :-)
June 16, 2009 at 7:55 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
coolfreaknbeans (anonymous) says...
Let me tell you "Sara". If know anything about this family, you know that they constantly "TMI" people. (too much information)People don't need to rely on gossip or he said/said. They will tell you all of their dirty business in a heartbeat. They are white trash because of the way they act, look and live. About her planning the breakdown...she herself told multiple people days before she went in.Sorry but you don't schedule a "nervous breakdown". She has been known to have fits when doctors wouldn't give her a narcotic. Her husband showed ZERO emotion as to what happened, even the very night of the accident. These people are despicable.
June 16, 2009 at 8:09 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Sara (anonymous) says...
Auntbird,
First im so sorry for your niece! God bless you all! I swear Im not taking up for Katrina and sure didnt know the things you were saying. Like I said I only know her through a friend who knows her. I just thought to myself if Katrina was that bad then Carrie wouldnt be hanging out with her. Thats what I was making my reference to. If you say that Carrie did tell you all these things then that does make me look at it differently. So I guess what your saying is that they werent as close as its being made to me. From what I undersatnd they didnt even have to knock on each others door. Thats where I was coming from. Just a different angle. I said I wasnt taking up for Katrina and im sorry if you felt like i was. Im sure that kayla will recover and my thoughts and prayers go out to her. I have a 13 year old girl myself and cant imagine myself in the situation. If you know first hand which im sure you do then thats different then the other people on here that are just posting. Im sorry for your situation and pray that it changes. So I guess that I heard wrong when I heard that Carrie let her ride with Katrina all the time. Thats what I was going off of. Is that a lie? Im sure it would have to be with everything you have told me.
June 16, 2009 at 8:11 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
leapfrog (anonymous) says...
Sara, If you could have seen how Kayla was before the accident and how she is now, you'd just leave it alone. I have seen her both ways and it is shattering.
AuntBird, when you see Carrie tell her we are all missing her at work and that she and Kayla are in our thoughts and prayers daily.
I wish Kayla, Carrie and all the rest of your family the best and hope that the Kayla comes back from Atlanta healed and ready to take on the world again. She is so strong and feisty
June 16, 2009 at 8:17 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Sara (anonymous) says...
She did what? Told people she was planning a breakdown? Are you kidding me? Maybe I just got a different version of what was going on then. To my understanding they were like best friends, who were like family! I guess you know them to? Maybe she has my friend snowballed also. From what she told me she couldnt eat, sleep, or anything since it happened. Was her oldest son and Kayla best friends? Or was that a lie to? See there is always more to the story no matter what end its on. Im sorry if anyone felt I was taking up for her. I believe she needs to be in trouble especailly if she smokes pot the way you guys make it sound like she does. So im sure Carrie didnt want her child with her cause im sure I wouldnt either. I will keep all of you in my thoughts and prayers!
June 16, 2009 at 8:23 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
coolfreaknbeans (anonymous) says...
She didn't tell people she was planning it. But she scheduled it days in advance. She may have snowballed your friend. It's awfully convenient that when a warrant is heading your way, you schedule to be put in a mental ward. Then when you find out the police are knocking on your door, you decide to extend your stay.
June 16, 2009 at 8:30 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Sara (anonymous) says...
Leap,
Im sure that its an awful sight for all of you. Maybe it is me that has the story wrong as you see in my earlier post I was mislead on the whole thing. From what she told my friend she can be charged with something different up to 60 days from the date they charged her. They also said that the only reason the cops charged her was because the neighbors said she was leaving town when james and the kids were packing to go out of town with his brother. Im not sure what is true or not true. Im sure the Aunt would have no reason to tell stories. Like I said Im sorry if I was mislead how it was told to me was nothing like this at all.
June 16, 2009 at 8:35 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
coolfreaknbeans (anonymous) says...
BTW. They did pack for a trip. But, they had also recently cleared items from their garage and were spotted by neighbors packing items into vehicles at all hours of the night off and on for 1-2 weeks. From what I understand they are a financial mess as well. Don't be misled by this bunch of trash.
June 16, 2009 at 8:41 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Sara (anonymous) says...
From what i was told the police went and got her from the hospital. This is horrible! Im on the phone with my friend right now and she is shocked! She did say Katrina didnt have a problem with telling her bussiness to anyone who would listen and that she was a self absorbed person especailly when it came to her kids. Im sorry that this has happen to you all and Im sure that god will stand beside all of you as you get through this horrible experience. God Bless Kayla and I will be supporting her this weekend! From what I hear about the Shepards rehab center it is the best in the workd Im sure she will recover abd be just as fiesty as Leap said she was. As far as them coming to the hospital my friend just told me Katrina told her they took flowers and bears down to the hospital and Sebastin?the name she said) wouldnt let them give them to her. My frined just is in a class with her and talks to her on the phone but obviously not a very good judge of charcter unless shes just that good at putting on a show!
June 16, 2009 at 8:44 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Here_for_Kayla (anonymous) says...
So Sara, you are saying that you think Carrie might be a bad judge of character and chooses unsavory people as friends, am I right?
So what is your point? Carrie's choice of friends is completely irrelevant. Katrina broke the law. She broke a very important law; A law that holds adults responsible for the appropriate care of children under their supervision. Katrina's disregard for this very important law has resulted in a 15-yr old child suffering catastrophic injury including ventilator-dependant quadriplegia. WAKE UP.
And although it is irrelevant, for the record, Carrie's a sweet person. She's friendly and non-judgmental. She is outgoing and makes friends with her neighbors. We should all be able to make friends with our neighbors without worrying that they will take our children without our permission on drugged-up, reckless ATV joyrides. Unfortunately, some neighbors will be narcissistic, thoughtless dirtbags, which Katrina and Jimmy are (as evidenced by their behavior since the accident on camera and off camera).
June 16, 2009 at 10:34 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
yird (anonymous) says...
There are too many stupid laws already that supposedly protect us from ourselves.
What ever happened to personal responsibility?
If the Elsworths are neighbors then kayla's parents should have known that they were not the type their daughter should be chumming around with. If they are trashy and the girls parents knew then they are just as guilty as if they were operating the ATV.
June 17, 2009 at 12:22 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Sara (anonymous) says...
here for kayla,
I was saying like i explained that i thought Katrina wouldnt be a piece of crap because of how my friend explained the relationship of carrie and Katrina. I was making an assumption that if they were friends then they must of cared for each other. The aunt set me straight on that. Im sure everyone has learned from this experience and it wont happen again. Carrie is not to blame however maybe next time she will be a little more judgemental and tell people like Katrina to stay the heck away from her and her kids. LIKE I SAID IM NOT BLAMING ANYONE just was taking up for both sides. saying that they were friends, are you guys reading all the posts? The aunt set me staright that Carrie and Katrina wasnt close as Katrina had told my friend. I believe her esp. after she said Katrina lit a joint at the fair. Im sure Carrie had to quit hanging and letting her child hang out with her then! God bless Kayla and her family.
June 17, 2009 at 7:52 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
summergal (anonymous) says...
cfb you are right on the number and obviously know what you are talking trust me in know you know what you are talking about. And as for Sara, Katrina has had all of these problems for a while and she was just looking for a way out of all this by having a "nervous breakdown" she has been on all of the meds for years so i am sure it was not the meds that caused the accident it was her stupidity thinking that she knows what the hell she is doing and that nothing bad will happen to her. so Sara before you go bashing what people are writting on here about her make sure you know all of the facts but Promise everything that cfb has posted about Katrina is absolutly true!
Has anyone stopped and asked why she didnt have her own 15 year old son on the four wheeler with her? maybe bc she doesnt even give a damn about her own children or want anything to do with them. I do hope kayla keeps making th miracles happen she is a beautiful girl!
Sara i think that it is now obvious that your friend only knows katrina from school and not the real thing.
June 17, 2009 at 10:04 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Sara (anonymous) says...
Summer,
Thank you for backing what i am saying! I will say it one more time. I have heard what a great person Carrie is, which im sure she is, my point is why did she hang out with this chick? If your a neighbor and you know all of this stuff, then Im sure Carrie did to. Do you let your kids go hang out over there? I know I wouldnt let my 13 year old anywhere near her. My first post was made before I knew what kinda of person Katrina really was when the aunt explained I understand now. My first thought was if they are so trashy then why would Carrie be around them. So if Carrie hung out with her and let her daughter over there then Katrina couldnt be as bad as everyone is making her seem. NO, I DO NOT BELIEVE that NOW. After hearing from the aunt and others who knew them personally. To know someone and judge them is one thing but to not know them and listen to gossip and judge them is differnet in my eyes! I said in my post that my friend was shocked about the things I was telling her. She does only know Katrina from school, which Katrina stopped going to and she only talks to her on the phone. Shes never even been to her house. I explained what auntbird said and my friend was mostly shocked about the weed. She did say that Katrina was a selfish person who didnt take care of her kids and forced her husband to do so. However i still dont understand how Carrie hung out with her and let her kid over there if Katrina was so horrible!
June 17, 2009 at 10:23 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
highclass (anonymous) says...
Good post summergal. Her own 15 year old was probably home caring for the other children and cleaning the house. Jimmy is an bitter little man but I would be too if I had to live with Katrina. I will be at the car wash this weekend to donate money. I will be at the run that is scheduled as well. Katrina needs to be locked somewhere.
BTW- Where is DSS? She tested postive for drugs and yet her own children get to stay with her? The system is broken.
Sara- You can not know Katrina. I lived next to her for years and this does not surprise me at all.
Aunt Bird- May God be with you and your family during this time!
June 17, 2009 at 10:24 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
coolfreaknbeans (anonymous) says...
wow. highclass hit the nail on the head. As far as my opinion, I stress opinion only...I have spoken to neighbors, even had coffee with neighbors who were pure train wrecks and downright trash. Does this mean we were best friends ? Absolutely NOT. I compare it to a train wreck. You know it's a hot mess, shouldn't look and find it impossible to turn your head away. When you live next door to someone you are put in a position to try to get along. Carrie is an excellent mother who loves Kayla more than words can ever express. It's like people are forgetting Carrie was not home when this happened. It's not like Carrie said, "Oh look Katrina is so high, go ride with her Kayla." Katrina invited her to ride and did not have Carries permission. Another poster had said Katrina has a history of befriending teens, even against their parents wishes.
June 17, 2009 at 11:23 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Sara (anonymous) says...
Talk to neighbors and had coffee with neighbors is one thing. Letting your child go with someone who was plainly out of her mind is another. She did not know this time, has she known before? Where would Kayla get the idea that it was ok to go with her. Seems like to me with all that was done before Carrie would of talked to her child and said NO MATTER WHAT DONT GO WITH THAT LADY! If she called her sister once a week to explain to her she didnt take the time to explain it to her child? Come on! Something just dont seem right in this picture! You guys can cuss me call me names but usually if something dont fit its for a reason! If you can post on here about your side be able to listen to the other side. YIRD has the right idea something just dont make sense. Thats all Im saying. I know none of them so im not bias to either side. Im just saying that the picture that you all are painting dont make sense. Highclass you go again making a comment on her husband being a bitter little man? What does little have to do with it? I ask you again where is your husband? Why didnt any of you call DSS to this house if all this was going on? Something just isnt right! Maybe its all of your faults who knew all this was going on in the house with 3 innocent children living inside and did nothing about it. Then you all have the nerve to get on here and post comments like you know so much! Where is these kids families and grandparents? Thats what i would like to know. How does this go on around so many people and NO ONE say ANYTHING until its to late!!!!!!!!! Just my opinion.......
June 17, 2009 at 12:33 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
AuntBird (anonymous) says...
Sara, I was unaware of how close Katrina and Carrie were until this all happened. I knew they hung out sometimes and I knew their children. All that Carrie and her boyfriend ever said and still say were that they were neighbors, they did neighborly things together. They have three great boys, I feel terrible that they have to see this happening to their family and have to deal with what has happened to their friend. I have said in the past, keep Kayla away from Katrina, my mom has done the same. However, my sister never thought she would put Kayla in danger. Carrie is a wonderful person and aside from the stories she has told me about Katrina, she still felt that she wouldn't put Kayla in danger. I'm assuming that she wouldn't get stoned and take her kids to do stuff like this. However, after this, I will never jsut assume. My sister made it seem like Katrina took all the pills to deal with everyday life, to function. But the muscle relaxer she was on more than likely had a "do not operate heavy machinery label on it." My sister is a good person, she got close to the wrong kind of people. I don't know how comfortable they all were with eacother with the whole walkingin and out of eachother's house freely thing. However, Kayla would help the kids with their homework when their parents weren't home. I know that Kayla felt that she could trust this person. But how does this keep coming back to my sister? My sister was out at home depot when this happened. She got no call asking if it was okay to take Kayla out on the ATV. You NEVER take any child anywhere to do anything without their parent's permission. EVER. I only wish there would have been some rules set, like when I'm not here, don't do anything with them. However, we think of this now. I'm a better judge of character than my sister. I see people's faults up front if they give me enough information. Which isn't necessarily a good thing because I'm not too comfortable with people dishing out thier dirty laundry within minutes of meeting you, but some people do that, and Katrina is one of those people. Regardless of her character, regardless of my sister's relationship with her, it doesn't change anything.
June 17, 2009 at 1:44 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
AuntBird (anonymous) says...
Continued: What she did was wrong. She was high when Kayla was on a 1 person vehicle, speeding, with Kayla holding onto the wings telling her to slow down. All that matters is Kayla. Katrina's time will come when the court system decides what her punishment will be. As a family member I hope that she will get time in jail. But you never know, she may get off with a slap on the wrist. However after that, Kayla will still be paralyzed. And if she gets time, Kayla, according to the doctors will still be paralyzed. According to doctors she won't ever breathe on her own. So the thing is, regardless of freindships or what she is like, her life can go on. She will do whatever they say as punishment and when she is finished her life will go on. There is a lot of uncertainty of what is to come of Kayla's life. But one thing I knwo is she will never stop fighting.
Everyone, Keep your thoughts on Kayla. And pray that the Shepherd Center is going to fully bring her back! She has already defied odds, lets hope for her to continue to do so!
June 17, 2009 at 1:46 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
lovely29 (anonymous) says...
I am continuing to pray for Kayla and her family. I know of Katrina by way of an incident that took place with my foster child and even after I asked Katrina to discontinue the relationship with the 17 year old female Katrina began e-mailing the child, buying the child gifts, and even visited my home to show the child a motorcycle that her husband bought her. As a parent I contacted Katrina's place of employment as well as the school she was attending with the information pertaining to Katrina taking the 17 year old home with her. After the school Katrina was attending explained to her the consequences of her actions and told her to discontinue a persona relationship with the child Katrina still attempted to have a relationship with the 17 year old. Katrina has no respect for anyone; mentally I believe she is incapable of making adult decisions. I have only meant her a few twice and she defiantly has not hesitation as to volunteering un-requested information as to what medications she is taking, how she has anxiety attacks, as well as how her oldest son is on several medications as well. She is rather interesting! Again Kayla and her family are in my prayers. Jesus said, "I am with you always." Matthew 28:20
June 17, 2009 at 3:08 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
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June 17, 2009 at 4:07 p.m. ( permalink | )
Here_for_Kayla (anonymous) says...
Wow, it's becoming very clear that Katrina has some pretty serious pathology.
She has a history of contacting and attempting to develop personal relationships with juveniles despite requests to stop by caregivers, showing complete lack of regard for parental rights and requests.
She has no regard for the law, or for the boundries the law sets between adults and children.
She makes terrible judgements and engages in reckless behavior. She includes juveniles in her reckless behavior.
Her partying behavior since the accident has shown that she apparently isnt too upset about what she did. After the accident she also posted some pictures on the mother's profile on a popular networking website that were completely inappropriate, thoughtless and trite. Very strange considering her behavior had just resulted in the catastrophic injury of the mother's child.
Carrie and Kayla might very well have had a bad run-in with a sociopath. Katrina's behaviors are associated with sociopathy: violation of people's rights and the law, lack of empathy or remorse, risk-taking behavior, drug-abuse, chronic lying.
June 17, 2009 at 6:05 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
loquacious (anonymous) says...
For the first time in my life, I am speechless. We all agree that Kayla needs our prayers and best wishes. It is my sincerest hope raisings funds and donations will help diminish medical expenses.
To those of you who believe your username gives you anonymity I regret to inform you it does not. Having known the Elsworths for quite a while, it is difficult for me to disagree with many of the comments and critiques posted. People who live in glass houses should not cast stones!
June 17, 2009 at 6:40 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Here_for_Kayla (anonymous) says...
Well, loquacious,
Katrina Elsworth does deserve to be judged. And she will, in a court of law. As far as the quip "People who live in glass houses should not cast stones", I can assure you, I have never, and will never, take someone else's CHILD on reckless ATV rides while drugged out of my mind.
And I will judge her behavior as ATROCIOUS. And I will state that she needs to be evaluated for psychological problems. And I hope to be there the day she receives legal and civil judgement for her disgusting act.
June 17, 2009 at 8 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Sara (anonymous) says...
lovely,
Im glad you had the sense to keep your daughter away from her after only a few meetings with her Im sure you stopped what could of been a horrible accident with your child! ....... As to auntbird, im really sorry that this has happen to your family and I would bet a million dollars on it that Kayla is going to pull through this and be back to normal. Im sure from what i have read her fighting has just began. She seems like a very strong little girl! My prayers go out to her! I do also hope pray that Carrie and Sebatsin get the help they need also. This all could of been stopped if people would of been doing what they were suppose to do and putting their kids first just like lovely did. As she wasnt a neighbor so it might have been a little easier, Carrie should of been judgemental and said BACK OFF!!! There is only one reason I can think that she wouldnt and its not because she wasnt judgemental.... I hope that Im wrong like I said i know neither family but usually birds of a feather flock together. Im not Carrie bashing Im just looking at the big picture. What is the reason Carrie maintained a relationship with a person that she obviously knew was trouble! My prayers go out to her and I hope they have all learned form this. I have lived in my house for 6 years and have had the same neighbors. On one side I have good people that I have arelationship with really good people. Across the street they are questionable, its a hey how you doing in the yard. They have kids and I told my girl, to be nice but I better not catch her there. i know this doenst change anything and that Katrina does need to pay for what she has done. However maybe shes not the only one who needs help. I pray that I am wrong like i said I KNOW OF NEITHER FAMILY but..... im smart eneough to know that something else had to be going on thats not being said for obvious reasons im sure. Aunt like i said im not bashing just looking at the big picture, your a good judge of character so Im sure if your sisater needed the help you or your mom would reach out to her and give her what she needs. There has to be a reason that you guys would tell her to stay away and she didnt. Think about it..... God bless you all and I pray that everyone gets the help they need.
June 18, 2009 at 8:07 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
AuntBird (anonymous) says...
Hopefully I will see all of Kayla's supporters at the carwash on Saturday!
And Sara, I think Kayla will pull through this too. She is the strongest person I have ever met. She is determined and will not give up!
Lets all keep praying for her and tonight when I see her I will let her know about all of you that are supporting her. It gives her motivation and helps renew her hope to know that people that don't even know her care aobut her. Keep it up guys because this kid is a miracle and she is going to do great things in her life!
June 18, 2009 at 8:39 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Sara (anonymous) says...
Aunt,
Yes please tell her she has more people then she could ever imagine in her corner and praying for her FULL recovery everyday. We all know that it ahs to be hard but we all have complete faith in her! She so deserves to live the life of a normal 15 year old girl! I work with over 200 people and they all are praying for an angel they never even have laid their eyes on! She will be a miracle and we all know this! Good luck at the Shepards center please keep us updated on her PROGRESS!!!! Whcih im sure they will be alot of! God bless you all!
June 18, 2009 at 8:53 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
trueheartedsthrngirl (anonymous) says...
For days now i have read and reread all these comments, so i am gonna start with coolfreakenbeans: You obviously know the Katrina i know. Not one thing you have said is untrue. As for Sara. I think you need to keep your comments to yourself. You know nothing about the Elsworths nor do you know Carrie and her wonderful daughter Kayla. Everything you have posted on here has been here say on your part. Uh 3rd party information to be exact. Every time i get on here your comments are the same, and i personally think you need to keep them your self. Please do not take that the wrong way as i am not trying to be rude to you, i do not know you.
I know the real Elsworths. I refuse to say anything bad about Katrina, but I will say this her and I are NOT friends. We were very good friends at one time but she ruined that. As far as Jimmy is concerned, he is not the "mean little man" he is portrayed to be. Jimmy can be harsh and loud but in the same aspect he is also a good father, husband and a hard worker that try's to provide for his family. I have seen him work his a** off come home cook, clean, bathe the kids and help them with their homework. Where is his wife? Probably up in bed where she spends most of her time.
To this day, I allow my son to go over to their house. Do i worry about his safety? No!!! This was an accident, PERIOD! Should she be held liable for what she did, yes your damn right she should. Maybe i'd feel different if drugs were not in involved. I have no pity on anyone that has a drug problem.
So with saying that I'm done!!!!!
June 18, 2009 at 4:56 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
loquacious (anonymous) says...
None of us are immune to "the fickle finger of fate", any one of you could be next weeks headlines, myself included.
Not a soul in the world can honestly say they've never had a close call. Think of all the times in your life that tradegy has been avoided. Events that could have ended differently. Consider this...the police report advised that rescue breathing was given to Kayla by Katrina before first responders arrived thus saving her life. Possible outcome...TWO funerals, AVOIDED! As horrible as this all is for EVERYONE involved it could have been alot worse.
June 18, 2009 at 7:52 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
coolfreaknbeans (anonymous) says...
trueheartedsthrngirl- We all make our own parenting decisions and I respect that. However, I would not let my child in that household. Katrina is a drug user (legal and illegal) drugs are in that house. They are completely reckless with their kids and their lifestyle. To my knowledge, their oldest son does the child rearing, cooking, cleaning and nearly everything else. To everyone saying this was "just an accident" IT WAS NOT JUST AN ACCIDENT!!!! An accident wouldve been if she had permission,was sober,riding in a legal area at a safe speed,wearing helmets and a deer ran out in front of them and they wrecked. That my friends is an accident. When you are fn wasted, take someones child without permission on an ATV(with no safety equipment on an ATV built for one), drive like a bat out of hell on an illegal embankment....THAT IS NOT A FREAKING ACCIDENT!!!!! I'm not saying she intended to injure Kayla. She completely disregarded the law and all common sense.
June 18, 2009 at 10:01 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Here_for_Kayla (anonymous) says...
Well said "coolfreakinbeans".
This isn't a simple ACCIDENT.
This was willful disregard for the safety of someone else's child and for the law.
How callous and thoughtless she was to take someone else's kid on a reckless ATV ride while drugged up. Disgusting. Sickening. Why didn't she take her OWN kids?????
I wonder what hanging out with juveniles makes her feel so cool for... What a CREEP. Plain and simple. A CREEP. It would be different if she was openly repentant and hanging her head in shame instead of evading arrest and drinking out on the town. She's a pitiful, aging drunk/drug-addict who hangs out with teenagers without permission from the parents. What a low-life.
June 19, 2009 at 12:05 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
trueheartedsthrngirl (anonymous) says...
Here_for_Kayla
Where were her own kids? At home as always. She never takes them kids ANYWHERE!!!! Poor little things are always at home. For Kayla and Carrie I hope tomorrow is an extraordinaire day for that family. I hope lots, and lots of people attend, and they raise a record amount of money.
June 19, 2009 at 8:54 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Sara (anonymous) says...
true,
As you i have every right to be here. I bet I know more then you think i do. I bet your name starts with a K your husband satrts with a L. I bet Katrina accused your husband of hitting on her. Sound about right? While I agree to the fact that Jimmy does everything he needs to put his foot down! Those atvs and motorcycles are his toys and he doesnt do any drugs, maybe just have a few drinks every now and then. He knows how to ride them fix them and everything dealing with them. He needs to put his foot down to her and say you are on to many pills you cant drive these things. Any one who lays eyes on katrina can see with the way her mouth jerks and the way she acts shes on way to many pills. Her doctors also are part to blame. However from what I understand she knows what to say to get what she wants form them. As far as you letting your son over there I have to agree with here for on that one! ARE YOU NUTS? My comments sound the same and this one does to! ANYONE WHO LETS THEIR KIDS OVER THERE NEEDS THEIR HEAD CHECKED! From my understanding Jimmy is either working all the time or doing side jobs for extra money. So your telling me youd let your kid over there after you say you know shes on drugs? Then you talk about drug problem. Check yourself before you go trying to put someone else in check. As you said you dont know me and I dont know you, but Im SURE my friend is right when she called your name to me. My friend is Katrinas friend and she reads these posts. If shes wrong im sorry but I bet shes not! As for you loa... Your right people in glass houses shouldnt throw stones. I agree totally! I hope the turn out was awesome today God bless u Kayla! Our prayers will follow you 4 ever!!!!
June 20, 2009 at 5:51 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
loquacious (anonymous) says...
Thanks for acknowledging my quote, for I to am a friend of a friend and it was not diffcult at all to ID at least 4 of you.
We all have skeletons in the closet. Katrina gave full disclosure about her psychosis and life style. Who ever said her husband should have restricted her joy rides, you are correct, he knew. Too often we require a "designated GROWN-UP" when adults act like fools.
June 20, 2009 at 6:49 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Sara (anonymous) says...
loq,
Still that doesnt leave it at jimmys door step either. I think its like you said in a previous message. Danger is around but you never think its you. Also everyone likes to think that their spouse knows how to behave and whats best. I do believe that the pills had Katrina thinking she could handle it. From what I understand she is a decent person who cared very deeply for the Kayla and her family. Im sure Carrie knew that also. Its a shame this had to happen. Evryone does have skeletons in their closets thats been my thoughts all along. I hope God finds away to make this correct for everyone and their families.
June 20, 2009 at 9:43 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
loquacious (anonymous) says...
Any reports on how the fund raiser went? Will there be more events scheduled?
June 21, 2009 at 8:32 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
frogeyes82 (anonymous) says...
Sara, i completely agree on your comment to trueheart, too funny! "check yourself before you go trying to put someone else in check" enough said.... you hit the nail on the head (the whole paragraph)
June 22, 2009 at 10:04 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
AuntBird (anonymous) says...
Sara, you are really starting to sound like you know Jimmy and Katrina. Your constant sticking up for them is making me think that you are not just a friend of a classmate of Katrina's. One minute you are all for Kayla and saying you would never let your kids near them, and then in other places you say things like anyone who sees Katrina can tell she is on way too many pills. Do you know her or not? And if your friend is continuing her friendship with Katrina after this has happened she is also out of her mind. From the sound of it she knows a lot about her, and all of this knowledge is enough to make judgement on who is proper and not proper to associate with. Katrina puts no value on any life for that matter, not even hers. She shows this by dousing herself with drugs and alcohol and putting peoples lives at risk.
For your information Loq, Kayla was dead at the scene, she had no pulse! She was resuscitated, by the EMS! And two funerals? What do you mean by this? It says in the report that we both read that Katrian had a few scrathes on her neck. One funeral then becasue Katrinas body was all loose and flimsey from the muscle relaxers and the weed in her system. DO NOT COME ON HERE AND STICK UP FOR HER! Kayla is quadriplegic because of her and the choices she made to get stoned and ride that thing at high speeds with Kayla on the back. Someone is at fault and it is Katrina. Maybe if she made better choices in life more people would respect her. But by the looks of things, not many people on here think very highly of her. People that know her don't respect her. So if you don't know her, do not stick up for her because if you ever have the oppurtunity to meet her you will wish you had a time machine to go back on the things you said in her favor.
And to those of you that said you would be at Kayla's carwash on Saturday helping out- you were not there! Sara included. You said you'd be there, but we never met. I never saw you and I was looking forward to meeting you so we could talk and you could see the sincerity on my eyes and in my voice when I was to say the things to you in person that I've said in my previous posts. I am not angry at anyone because all of Kayla's friends rocked this car wash! But if you say you're going to be there helping then do it or make plans to help us in the future! Lets all get together soon and help Kayla out! Please stay positive for Kayla! And don't forget who the victim is. The victim is Kayla. So everyone who wants to come on here and stick up for Katrina must obviosuly not know her or be on some heavy drugs, because a sober person with a soul can see who is really suffering because of this. Pray for Kayla.
June 22, 2009 at 12:18 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
trueheartedsthrngirl (anonymous) says...
Aunt Bird you rock!!! Everything you said is 100% true. I was accused of being a drug addict by a drug addict by someone that does not even know. HA! go figure. Anyway i think of Kayla Daily and i have been keeping in touch with Carrie through email. My son is waiting his turn to come see her.
June 22, 2009 at 1:25 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
sideways (anonymous) says...
Sara,
Really before you go and tell someone to check theirselves maybe you should check your self because according to you, you dont even know katrina, but for someone who doesnt know her you sure are doing ALOT of sticking up for. Which by the way from your previous posts you said, and i qoute "I swear Im not taking up for Katrina" so it looks to me like there a little more than knowing her through a friend! And for you to go broadcasting Trus buisness where in your right mind do you feel like that is your place? Katrina is getting everything she deserves on here from people and she will cotinue to get what she deserves in the future? This is about Kayla not Katrina. Katrina is not the victim here Kayla is. I mean if your frind is such good friends with katrina was she there visiting her in the hospital b/c i have been told that none of her so called best friends from school visited her or have taken the time to be her friend now that she isnt out partying with them up at the clubs. so check yourself!
June 22, 2009 at 4:35 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Sara (anonymous) says...
Lol,
Where to start hmmmmmm, Aunt Bird I did not get a chance to make it, last min thing with my mom at the hospital she had a heat stroke out doing yard work like a nut! Im very sorry I didnt make it up there. If you tell me where I can send some money to help, I will. I do feel for Kayla and Carrie VERY MUCH! Im sorry if it seems that I am sticking up for Katrina, as I said before Im not. However in saying that I dont understand where all these people can get on here and say this and that but still let their kids go right over there. I as a mother of a 13 year old girl, would never let my child go there. I have NEVER laid my eyes on Katrina, from what my firend says her mouth moves back and forth and she always looks like shes messed up on something. I know people who smoke pot and never seen that affect anyone that way. My whole thought on all of this is MAYBE if someone would of done or said something way before this happened Kayla would be okay now. Does anyone not get that? You all are on here saying she was doing this and doing that but NO ONE EVER DID ANYTHING ABOUT IT! Then someone like tru gets on here saying she would send her kid over there???????? It sounds like to me if she was what people are making her out to be then WHY DID NO ONE DO ANYTHING? Why was Carrie her friend? Why would Carrie not tell Kayla to stay away from her.... even if it was just stay away from her driving cars and ATVS? Thats been my point all along! Where does people draw the line. At first I said if Katrina was white trash then why did Carrie hang with her. Then everyone who knows Katrina started on here saying all the stuff she did and they saw. BUT NO ONE TOOK THE TIME TO DO ANYTHING! Maybe if one of you guys would of spoke up and said something Kayla wouldnt be in the postion shes in either. Yes it is Katrinas fault, no doubt about that!! But if one of you reading these posts gets it through your head that maybe next time to talk to your child or call DSS or the police then my point has been made. Im not done yet......... See below
June 22, 2009 at 5:13 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Sara (anonymous) says...
As far as me knowing Katrina I write only waht my friend tells me and no she didnt go see Katrina in the hospital but she does sound like she knows what she is talking about. She seems to say what you guys are saying except a few things that Katrina told her that I feel wouldnt be right to say on here. With that being said as far as Tru goes from what I understand if she is the person in question, not sayings she is, she was katrinas BEST FRIEND!! for a very LONG time. People like her upset me very bad! Anyone who runs with trash is considered in my book TRASH! If shes not the person my friend thought she was then I said sorry. But if she is the person that my friend said she was then TRUST ME she has no right being on here at all talking trash because she was right beside her! If SHE ISNT THAT PERSON THEN SHE KNOWS THAT AND SHE CAN DISREGARD WHAT I SAID! Im on here now not to take up for Katrina but to make a point. If ONE or maybe even TWO of you would of took the time to say something! You all know SO MUCH about this girl! My friend has no kids but didnt know the extent of what Katrina was doing or she herself would of made a call. Im not bashing anyone just hoping and PRAYING that if any of you ever meet ANYONE like her again you would make that call. No its not your job, but its your place as a community to care about what goes on around you and your kids. If it was that bad a call should of been made a LONG time ago. Like I said before where is her kids family? I even said her husband knowing how she was should of done something. Not taking any of the blame from Katrina IT IS KATRINAS FAULT!!!! Just saying as a community you guys could of done something and I hope next time YOU ALL WILL! With that being said I know it doesnt make the situation any better. Believe me Im sure everyone wishes they could turn back the hands of time! Just please next time take the time to make the call to who ever will listen you might save a life!
June 22, 2009 at 5:34 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
sideways (anonymous) says...
Well There had been calls made but nothing was done her own husband had committed a fews years back and the next day she was out why because she knows what she is doing, dss has been involved with her, where do you think the oldest was when he was a child? As far as her family they dont want anything to do with her, seeing as how katrina played them for years also. But I also think you better go ahead and consider your "friend" trash since she is running with trash! but with that said i am done replying and getting pissed at comments that somebody is writting that doesnt even know Katrina just the hear say that her friend is getting thhat could have been mixed up in the process! EVERYONE PLEASE CONTINUE TO PRAY FOR KAYLA AND HER WONDERFUL FAMILY THEY NEED THEM.
June 22, 2009 at 5:41 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Sara (anonymous) says...
Aunt,
This is to you and you only.... I am very sorry for what you are going through. I cant begin to imagine the pain and heartache your whole family holds. Especailly Kayla. I hope you (the rest of them can kiss my butt) as a person know that Im not for Katrina, Im for whats right. You have said yourself that you didnt like her and told your sister to stay clear from her. Im sure I would of done the same thing had I been in your situation. I do pray for kayla and your family everynight! I also do feel that all these people getting on here stating what they know should upset you just as it does me. Not for the fact that its about Katrina but for the fact if they knew so much and they didnt say anything. To me as a human that is CRAZY! This girl was clearly out of her mind in more ways then one! Lovely the woman who stopped her child from being in this same situation deserves a reward of the highest form. She took the time and made the calls to make sure her daughter was not wrapped up with such a person! As im sure whn Kayla is ok ( which im sure she willl be) Carries judgement of people will be stronger then ever! I do not need to meet you to feel the sincerity in your voice, I feel it in my heart as you type. Thats why I wanted to write this to you and say mother to mother, aunt to aunt, my heart goe sout to you. I in no way am taking ANY of the blame from that Katrina! From waht my friend says and from what the others say Im sure she is 100000000% to blame. Im just an unbias third party that can look at it a little different. that meaning that someone should of done something if that girl was in the shape they say she was. I scolded my friend the same way and she swore she didnt know it was that bad. She didnt even know the girl smoked pot! She is a lil bit nieve which she regrest now. She does still talk to Katrina but i believe she does more listening. She as your sister doesnt want to judge Katrina but you are right I did tell her to cut ties with her! I hope and pray she will but at least she knows what kind of person she is now. Blessings come in all forms Auntbird not saying this is a blessing at all but im sure that a blessing will come from this! Even if the blesing is as simple as getting your sister away from the nut! God will not punish Kayla for such BS from a drugged out whack job! Im sure you believe that as much as I do! So please dont ake my messages personal and think im sticking up for Katrina. As i read them over I really can see alil of what your saying, but thats not the angle im coming from. I will countiune to pray for all of you, and will make it to the next event. I would love to meet you! But like I said i hear the sincerity without having to! Did the car wash and run turn out okay? My daughter was really upset we didnt get to make it! I look forward to coming to different ones as im sure they will be many! Please keep your faith in the man upstairs he knows whta hes doing! God bless you all!
June 22, 2009 at 6:14 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Sara (anonymous) says...
Sideways,
My friend has a class with her, they shared phone numbers, my friend didnt hang out at her house or anything like that. Katrina calls her and she sits on the phone with her. Big difference then being best buds riding to school with her and sending your child over there. Im glad you wont be posting on here anymore! Thats a true blessing! As far as DSS from my understanding her oldest is like 15 or 16 right? What has been done latley? You can make every excuse in the world but if you knew what was going on and did nothing then you should feel like crap to. With that being said good bye!
June 22, 2009 at 6:20 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
praying4all (anonymous) says...
Hi all,
Let me start by saying that I am very sorry to Kayla's family for the pain they are going through right now. I was going to come out this weekend to atleast one of the events but have a lot going on myself. I do hope they have more that I can attend. I have read these posts and read these posts and wanted to post and wanted to post. I am the Aunt of Katrinas oldest child. Sara there is alot I would like to say to you. First I have known Katrina for almost 17 years. I hope you all listen to me when I say that she is a very sick woman. The whole time I have known her she has been very sick. I did get the oppurtunity to meet Carrie and Kayla at my nephews birthday party last year. She is a very high spirted young lady with a beautiful smile. It was like I had met her a million times. I also know what she meant to my nephew as a friend! She took him under her wing and helped him out a lot not only with homework but life issues. I myself have had many problems with Katrina and Jimmy. Howver your post about where was the kids family. I have always been right down the road but had to stay a far as im sure auntbird and Carrie both know. I disagree with katrina on alot of things but in my heart I always felt like it was her sickness that made her the way she is. Im not on here to say anything bad about anyone. I have talked to Katrina since the accident believe it or not that was the first time I had talked to her in a long while. I do believe she feels sorry for what happened and that she loves kayla very much! I hope that you guys understand that she has an illness. I think thats the way Carrie probably looked at it to. Sara its not always easy to stay away from people especailly if your the type of person who trys to find good in everyone. The day I met Carrie she seemed like that type. I havnet been back to their house since that day. So cant really say what was or wasnt since last Sept. Im just more on here to say that I am the family of her kids and I didnt call anyone and I knew how she was also. I always looked at her as her illness more then her. She does have more problems and I dont think being a drug addict is one of them. She has menatl issues that she needs to deal with. From what I understand she did get her meds changed and trying something different. I do feel in my heart that this accident has opened her eyes to alot more then they was open to before. Mental Illness is a hard thing to understand. I do believe the doctors are to blame for this also. Doctors should really pay more attention to the drugs they are giving people and the dose and the mixtures. auntbird my heart goes out to you and your family! I will pray for all of you. I do believe this web site should be used for messages for Kayla and prayers and focusing on her instead of all the bashing thats going on. Sara you being as perfect as you are you must have been sent down from God himself. How lucky are you!
June 22, 2009 at 6:55 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
armymom (anonymous) says...
92 comments?!?! Man, I don't have time to read all this tho I want to!
June 22, 2009 at 6:58 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Sara (anonymous) says...
WOW!!
I cant even believe you would have the nerve to show up on here! praying4all..... You live down the road and let your nwephew stay in this home? She must be your sister cause you both NUTS. DSS has its flaws but let me tell you something anything would be better then living there. Why dont you have custody of him? You say you have had your problems so you have not seen your nhepwew in all that time you must be AUNT OF THE YEAR! Like i said before check yourself before you try putting me in check chick! Maybe you have mental problems to!
June 22, 2009 at 8:19 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
praying4all (anonymous) says...
Sara,
Honey I will pray for you! I hope that helps but for some reason I doubt it will. You seem to have multiple personalities. I'm not here to justify myself to you. I know what I am and what Im not. As you can tell if you read and understand what I said Im not Katrinas sister I am her ex sister in law. Anyways......... My thoughts and prayers remain with Kayla and hope that people will use this site for what its for! Well wishes and prayers! God Bless Kayla!
June 22, 2009 at 9:16 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
highclass (anonymous) says...
Sara,
You are so judgmental. How do you know the aunt does has the money to fight for the child? How do you know she is not struggling to support herself? Do you know how much a family court case cost? Do you know how hard it is to take a child from a mother in SC? Katrina is a nut case but her family supported her for a long time. Like I said before I use to live beside Katrina she had me fooled for a while.
June 23, 2009 at 2:32 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
AuntBird (anonymous) says...
Some positive information for a change on here... Kayla's carwash raised over $1200.00!!!
Keep praying for Kayla!
June 24, 2009 at 9:34 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
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