Coroner: Man shot self by accident
Investigation shows gun in back pocket discharged, bullet hit victim in chest as he bent forward
The Post and Courier
North Charleston Mayor Keith Summey speaks to Sonya Holmes (right), mother of Dionta Cochran, and Pastor Lollita Brown of The Power of The Word Worship Center.
Previous stories
North Charleston teenager slain, published 07/14/09
Friend, cousin of victim arrested on unrelated charges, published 07/14/09
Slain teen was felon armed with gun, published 07/15/09
Dionta RaShad Cochran was killed by his own gun after it accidentally discharged in the 19-year-old's pocket, authorities said Friday. The bullet struck him in the chest while he was getting into an SUV to buy cigarettes.
Tests confirmed that the fatal round was fired from the .32-caliber pistol Cochran kept in the back pocket of his low-hanging pants, and not from an unknown shooter, as originally thought, Charleston County Coroner Rae Wooten said.
"It's clear examining the clothing and trajectories and soot and bullets and guns, etc., that the gun in his back pocket actually discharged, passed through his clothing — missing both legs — and as he was bending forward in an effort to probably close the door, the bullet struck him in the chest," she said.
It's unclear what caused the gun to discharge, but it appears the round traveled through his pants and between his legs, Wooten said.
"I would say to you it's extremely rare, and in the 14-plus years I've been doing investigations countywide, I've never seen anything like this," Wooten said.
The conclusion was an unexpected twist in a case originally labeled a homicide by North Charleston police and investigated as one until Friday. Chief Jon Zumalt said when he arrived at the scene at 7680 Desmond Ave. in the Forest Hills II community, he thought it was a slaying.
"We jumped to conclusions," he said.
Investigators arrested Cochran's cousin and a friend a day later after they determined that the pair tried to hide Cochran's gun and another gun in the backyard before police arrived.
Police charged Eric Ra'shad Antonio Smith, who was staying at the house with his grandmother, with obstruction of justice after he allegedly instructed Justin Maurice Townsend to hide the guns. Smith's mother said at a bond hearing that police told her that her son, who has a conviction for third-degree burglary, was the intended target of the shooting.
Police also charged Townsend, Cochran's cousin, with possession of a stolen pistol with a removed or obliterated serial number, unlawful carrying of a pistol and possession of a pistol.
The charges against Townsend and Smith are still pending.
Zumalt and Wooten said the case was solved through constant communication between their two offices.
"Their collaborative efforts helped to start piecing this together," Wooten said. "I'm very pleased the family got a truthful answer."
Mayor Keith Summey joined Zumalt and Wooten in crediting Cochran's mother, Sonya Holmes, with cooperating with investigators and quelling any thoughts of seeking revenge against whoever might have shot her son.
"The loss of any member of your family is horrible, and to think that they died at the hands of someone else is even worse," Mayor Keith Summey said. "I'm relieved for her that it was an accident and that nobody had something against her son and was trying to take his life."
Holmes declined to speak, but Lollita Brown, Holmes' pastor at The Power of The Word Worship Center, said Cochran was a good person who had plans to join the military after overcoming problems in his life.
"He was a very outgoing young man; he was very sweet," Brown said. "He was a part of our youth ministry. Always wanted to do the right thing. Yes, he had some trouble in the past, but when he came out, he had his head on right."
Cochran spent 10 months in prison after a conviction for strong-arm robbery. He was released in April.
On June 5, he was arrested and accused of shooting a firearm in West Ashley.
Police heard gunfire about 1:30 p.m. in the area of Rochelle and Belgrade avenues and received a report of someone firing a gun into the air on Rochelle Avenue and then leaving in a white SUV.
A police report said that officers stopped a Ford Explorer and inside found Cochran and his cousin, Townsend. It said a witness identified Cochran as the person who fired the gun.
Cochran was charged with discharging a firearm, the report said.
Nadine Parks contributed to this story. Reach Andy Paras at 937-5589 or aparas@postandcourier.com.
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jimjones (anonymous) says...
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!
Oh my, I haven't laughed that hard in a long time. Sorry. Let me catch my breath....karma man, get ya every time.
July 18, 2009 at 12:46 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Conan_the_Grammarian (anonymous) says...
"Very sweet?" "Always wanted to do the right thing?" Hardly.
July 18, 2009 at 12:48 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Smart_Enough_2_Know_Better (anonymous) says...
And so the "Is that a gun in your pocket or are you just happy to see me?" question was clearly answered that time.
July 18, 2009 at 1:30 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Duchess (anonymous) says...
Now that was dumb to report news that was just assumed. to all those that ranted on black on black crime this was def it. still tragic still stupid and a fine reason only licenced individuals should be carrying guns in thier pockets.
July 18, 2009 at 1:40 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
sardis12 (anonymous) says...
Not only do low hanging pants look stupid, they're dangerous, too...
July 18, 2009 at 2:42 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
spengler (anonymous) says...
Revenge of the Pants. Which military was he going to join? The American Military or the Obamacommie Zombie Army?
July 18, 2009 at 5:41 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
justkeeplivin (anonymous) says...
Hey Pastor Brown he clearly did not have his head on straight. When you get your head on straight give a sermon to the youth in your ministry and tell them to get some self respect, pull up their pants, speak english and attempt to contribute to society.
July 18, 2009 at 6:05 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
singleroni (anonymous) says...
what a joke. god answered their prayers and punish the evil
July 18, 2009 at 7:01 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
pirate42 (anonymous) says...
MY comments have finally been answered excute the rats heck now there doing it themseleves great job!!! wish more guns would go off blow the thugs away like this one did... answer to my prayers.... by way friends parents family... HE SHOULD NOT BEEN CARRING THE GUN>>>>>>
July 18, 2009 at 7:08 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
moonpie (anonymous) says...
Oh man that's some funny posting right there gang.
Yeah we seem to differ on what or how "good people" do or act? 19 gun in your back pocket, 10 months in prison, YIKES! And the mayor and popo chief thought it was a good idea to pay mom and the good pastor a personal visit? WHY? To condone his behavior. I don't get it at all.
July 18, 2009 at 7:40 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Conan_the_Grammarian (anonymous) says...
How can you expect that pastor to mentor the kids in her church into following the right path and doing the right things, when she is as deluded and flat-out wrong as she is about what a good person is and does? As a matter of fact, comments like she made about this gun-toting criminal are dangerous, because younger, more impressionable children in her church will think that committing robberies, shooting firearms randomly in neighborhoods, and carrying guns, are what "good" people do, because that's what this seriously gullible pastor said.
July 18, 2009 at 7:50 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
please_believe_it (anonymous) says...
As a pastor, shouldn't you be embarrassed that your pastor peers are going to read that ridiculous statement from you and think you are inept if not down right incompetent at your mission?
July 18, 2009 at 8:02 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
tupac4life (anonymous) says...
Man, his pants were sagging off and he kept the gun in back pocket...he then jumped in the car causing the gun to shoot the bullet though his pants and though his "manly" parts into his chest while he was lighting up a cigeratte. Big dummy...get a gun holster and pull your pants it saves lives my brothers..PEACE AND LOVE!!
July 18, 2009 at 8:30 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
ckc (anonymous) says...
Now thats what I call gun contol
July 18, 2009 at 8:53 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
theronce (anonymous) says...
What! No one is blaming this on smoking yet. I can hear it now. Cigarettes kill. I would think that most people go into a store to get cigarettes, not a SUV. Also, I guess you can't really believe anything in the media these days. We had a war here the other day about black on black crime.
July 18, 2009 at 8:59 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
nimuetre (anonymous) says...
He was getting into an SUV to buy cigarettes? What kind of cigarettes does one buy in an SUV?
July 18, 2009 at 9:09 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
CWL922 (anonymous) says...
Lollita Brown, Holmes' pastor at The Power of The Word Worship Center, said Cochran was a good person who had plans to join the military after overcoming problems in his life.
There is an age limit to join the military.
"He was a very outgoing young man; he was very sweet," Brown said. "He was a part of our youth ministry. Always wanted to do the right thing. Yes, he had some trouble in the past, but when he came out, he had his head on right."
It appears he did not have his head on right.
Cochran spent 10 months in prison after a conviction for strong-arm robbery. He was released in April.
If this is what you call sweet, I would hate to see him if he was mean.
On June 5, he was arrested and accused of shooting a firearm in West Ashley. Is this doing the right thing? I think not.
July 18, 2009 at 9:26 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Whatsupwidat (anonymous) says...
Duchess, doesn't this kinda prove that gun laws only affect law abiding citizens? Do you really expect an anti-social miscreant like this to get a license for his gun? That's why they call them criminals.
July 18, 2009 at 9:27 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
CWL922 (anonymous) says...
Whatsupwidat: I agree. As the saying goes "Whan guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns".
July 18, 2009 at 9:43 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
fred_durst1 (anonymous) says...
Just like gun advocates have said all along....
Guns don't kill people...baggy pants kill people.....
July 18, 2009 at 9:52 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
wonderdog (anonymous) says...
The following is a direct quote from the Urban Dictionary with asterisks added by me:
"bust a sag"
To wear one's trousers around the hips instead of the waist, thus exposing the top of the underwear. Often the pants will be purposely baggy and oversize to accomplish the "sag." Common in urban and hip hop culture in the late 90s.
A frequently told urban legend purports that the style originated in correctional facilities where males that were amenable to being approached for a*** s*x would wear their pants in this fashion.
Used in a sentence:
If my daughter brings home a boyfriend that's busting a sag, I swear to god I will nail-gun his pants to his hips.
July 18, 2009 at 9:55 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
tc1 (anonymous) says...
Can a convicted felon legally have a gun?
July 18, 2009 at 10:45 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
CWL922 (anonymous) says...
tc1: No, a convicted felon can not carry a gun. He was breaking the law when he was shot.
July 18, 2009 at 10:47 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
wonderdog (anonymous) says...
Wendell G. tried to outlaw the saggy pants. Here's a new saying:
"When saggy pants are outlawed, only outlaws will have saggy pants."
July 18, 2009 at 10:54 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
chaslocal (anonymous) says...
Wow. Now that mysterious bullet in the JFK assassination has some competition.
And I don't understand the point of writing anything remotely good about this young man in the piece. He was a gangbanger. Why the heck write anything said by his pastor about how "sweet" he was? Sets a fantastic example for the kids. "Hey, kids! You can wear saggy pants that make you look lazy, unsafely carry unregistered guns around, and as long as you BS your pastor, they'll put in a great word for you after you're dead from being a gangbanger."
Why not just leave it at the facts instead of trying to embellish them with absolutely worthless fluff. Why should any law-abiding citizen (the ones who actually read this paper) give 2 peanuts about this idiot? Are we supposed to be sympathetic because he was a gangbanger but the pastor says he was a "sweet kid?" He wasn't. And I don't appreciate even the suggestion that he was a "sweet kid" even if the Pope says he is. It's an insult to our society and one of the main reasons it's going into the toilet. Too much acceptance and justification of totally unacceptable behavior.
July 18, 2009 at 10:55 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Nochaseboy (anonymous) says...
" Want you to meet my little friend "
July 18, 2009 at 11:15 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Liberals_Are_Maroons (anonymous) says...
Posted by Duchess on July 18, 2009 at 1:40 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Now that was dumb to report news that was just assumed. to all those that ranted on black on black crime this was def it.
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Why? Was he not black? Did he not shoot himself with a gun he was illegally in possession of?
Black on black crime seems an apt description.
July 18, 2009 at 11:22 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Numba10 (anonymous) says...
so a kid who has turned his life aroud(allegedly) is packing heat and associating with others who are packing. I would say he fooled them all until the end. Now they all know it was an illusion.
July 18, 2009 at 11:47 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Numba10 (anonymous) says...
check out the article in Galveston paper on legal marijuana in California----http://galvnews.com
July 18, 2009 at 12:05 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
burton (anonymous) says...
"Smith's mother said at a bond hearing that police told her that her son, who has a conviction for third-degree burglary, was the intended target of the shooting."
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Huh, they were going to murder him??? This is karma. I hope every young African American boy and girl that is doing something positive with their life reads this article.
He was going to join what military? No recruiter in his right mind would have taken this guy; well, maybe the Army!! lol
Again, will you folks please stop saying what a good person your family member was when they have a 10 page rap sheet and just recently got in trouble with the law!!!
July 18, 2009 at 12:32 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
SucksDoesntIt (anonymous) says...
once a "fecal-bag" always a "fecal-bag." (the only way i could write it so that it wouldn't get removed. its what gets criminals caught. very rarely, maybe 0.1% will someone commit a crime and never do anything wrong again. lets see, strong arm robbery (would have been 17 at the time, i assume, to be convicted and carry out a 10 month senctance.) now he's a convicted felon, has to be in posession of the firearm to discharge in west ashley less than a month and a half ago, and now, to "darwinize" himself, had to be in posession, again. man am i glad this idiot "was a good person....very sweet....and he had his head on right." come on, when will we start taking responsibility for ourselves and expecting others to do the same. the man was a career criminal and he had only been an adult for 2 years!
July 18, 2009 at 12:33 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Mon_Kie (anonymous) says...
"Cochran was a good person who had plans to join the military after overcoming problems in his life"
The road to hell is paved with good intentions.
July 18, 2009 at 12:50 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
SeaSaw (anonymous) says...
Just makes you wonder, how many black & white youths are now packing guns.
July 18, 2009 at 1:06 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Brutus1 (anonymous) says...
I usually dont laugh about people dying. But, this is too funny. And I dont feel sorry for this thug at all.
July 18, 2009 at 1:07 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
beefsaver (anonymous) says...
Imagine how messed up your family situation needs to be that the truth of this situation is a "relief." I can only hope that some serious soul-searching results from Dionta's death and they decide to get a clue, get a diploma/GED, get a job (that would be nice for many of us in fact) and quit smoking. This can be a bellwether event to reject this path and excise violence and thuggery from their lives, or it will be yet another brick in the wall of their self-made prison.
My heart goes out to his mother.
July 18, 2009 at 1:30 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
coryphaena (anonymous) says...
You would think this guy would have been taught how to safely carry his concealed weapon during the concealed weapon training course he had to take.
Oh...wait a minute... Nevermind.
July 18, 2009 at 2:18 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
signseeker17 (anonymous) says...
Maybe this will finally bring to an end (no pun intended) the baggy pants fad.
July 18, 2009 at 3:05 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Hooch (anonymous) says...
Holmes declined to speak, but Lollita Brown, Holmes' pastor at The Power of The Word Worship Center, said Cochran was a good person who had plans to join the military after overcoming problems in his life.
"He was a very outgoing young man; he was very sweet," Brown said. "He was a part of our youth ministry. Always wanted to do the right thing. Yes, he had some trouble in the past, but when he came out, he had his head on right."
well he finally did the right thing....
July 18, 2009 at 3:22 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Relaxed85 (anonymous) says...
I shutter to think I actually share space with some of you people. The ignorance is beyond astounding and disgusting at best. So because he was a troubled teen he deserved to die? If thats the case, 99% of us should have a headstone right now. Although, I don't buy the whole cigarette thing, I KNOW most of you wouldn't appreciate the comments made if it were you child that died. I sure as hell wouldn't.
July 18, 2009 at 3:32 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
justkeeplivin (anonymous) says...
What is disgusting relaxed85 is the fact that anyone has anything good to say about this young man. As far as 99% of us should have a headstone PLEASE!! 99% of us don't commit strong armed robberies at any point of our life let alone before we are 19 years old. The life he lead was disgusting. A lot of people are sick of people like Dionta. I wouldn't defend my child for being a menace to society. I don't and wouldn't make excuses for my behavior or my childs. You wouldn't have to read these comments if people would actually start taking RESPONSIBILITY for their actions.
July 18, 2009 at 3:57 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
wonderdog (anonymous) says...
....or maybe we are relieved, as is his mother, that it wasn't murder.
Calling this guy a "troubled teen" is quite generous.
July 18, 2009 at 4:03 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
burton (anonymous) says...
Relax,
We have to stop making excuses in the African American community. Pres Obama spoke at the 100th Anniversary of the NAACP and told them the same thing. Dionta was a career criminal and was only 19 years old. He was carrying a gun and if I read the story right it looks like they were about to murder someone.
There are thousands of kids that live in the hood that decide not to go down the road of drugs, alcohol, murder, robbery, etc. They are doing positive things everyday. It also sounds like Dionta had positive influences in his life since he was in the youth ministry and went to church. So HE decided to go down that road! Who should be blamed for HIS actions?
I just hope something good can come out of his senseless and tragic death like his family members and friends getting their lives together. If this doesn't change their ways, I don't know what will. My condolences to the mother again.
July 18, 2009 at 5:02 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
sardis12 (anonymous) says...
I only "shutter" when a hurricane is coming...
July 18, 2009 at 5:06 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
CWL922 (anonymous) says...
Relaxed85: How many strong arm robberies did you commit when you were young. You make it sound like every teen does that at that stage of their life. It is not so. I have never robbed anyone. Does that make me a saint? No. Everyone has done something wrong before but not to that extreme. To all young people out there, If you feel the need to have an illegal gun on your person there is something wrong with the way you are living your life. If you feel the need to have a gun for your safety, go get a concealed weapon permit. If they reject you for any reason, you do not need to carry a gun.
July 18, 2009 at 5:27 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
stanish (anonymous) says...
Posted by Relaxed85 on July 18, 2009 at 3:32 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I shutter to think I actually share space with some of you people. The ignorance is beyond astounding and disgusting at best.
I agree with you @Relaxed85, but I'll follow up with a missing ingredient, RACISM! Yes, racism at best. I'm NOT trying to DEFEND or condone the actions of Dionta Cochran, but so many of these so called "christian" religious right hypocrites rejoices in ones demise, especially when they are of the BLACK race! I agree this young man should NOT have had a concealed weapon on him, especially having a criminal record. For you fine so called christians and hypocrites who rejoices in one's death, whether christian or sinner, In the TRUE christian bible that I read and try to practice from it states that "If a man or woman be overtaken in a FAULT, You which are SPIRITUAL, restore such an one in the spirit of MEEKNESS, considering THYSELF, lest THOU ALSO BE TEMPTED", Galatians 6:1. So there you have it my so called "CHRISTIAN" Brothers and Sisters! For those chastising and scolding Pastor Brown for her statement and support of the family needs to EXAMINE their ownselves. On a recent article, yesterday to be exact, there was a WHITE Pastor in Summerville caught in the act of Child PORNOGRAPHY, but yet many of those chastising Pastor Brown did NOT chastise this "PASTOR" or care to comment about his Pedophile actions with YOUNG CHILDREN! WHY? Because he is WHITE and Pastor Brown is BLACK! I'll answer it for you, a resounding YES! How many of you rejoicing in his death in fact have or had a son, daughter, brother, sister, cousin, aunt, uncle, or even mom or dad for that matter who was or in fact involve in this type of crime or similar? Would you care to take inventory? I'll reserve that for you to decide and be HONEST with yourself!
July 18, 2009 at 5:29 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
nickl (anonymous) says...
"Lollita Brown, Holmes' pastor at The Power of The Word Worship Center, said Cochran was a good person who had plans to join the military after overcoming problems in his life."
The problem with this statement is not his age as many people certainly join the military after the age of 19, but that when you enter, your criminal record is checked. What branch of the military did he plan to join. Having spent 10 months in jail for strong-armed robbery, the military would be hesitant to take thsi character. He absolutely would not have gotten into the Air Force or the Marine Corps with this record. The Army is a possibility as they are not so tight on recruiting restrictions but even they draw a limit when it comes to a persons criminal record. I'm pretty sure there's no waiver for strong armed robbery.
July 18, 2009 at 5:30 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
stanish (anonymous) says...
Posted by please_believe_it on July 18, 2009 at 8:02 a.m. (Suggest removal)
As a pastor, shouldn't you be embarrassed that your pastor peers are going to read that ridiculous statement from you and think you are inept if not down right incompetent at your mission?
Why should Pastor Brown be embarrassed or even CARE about what other Pastors or ANYONE for that matter for her statement or ministerial duties? I believe Pastor Brown is first and foremost ACCOUNTABLE to God for her works! So it's IRRELEVANT about what YOU think other Pastors or people should think of her!
July 18, 2009 at 5:45 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
lloyd007 (anonymous) says...
Said to say..." WHEN YOU DO WHAT YOU DO; YOU GET WHAT YOU GET ". This Minister needs to examine the true purpose of the Church. It really bothers me when these guys go out to reak havic in the communities and cause the down fall of families ( Via: Drugs, Violence,etc. ) and the church does nothing.But when these guys die through violent and senseless means, the first person who want to talk about how good these guys are is the preacher who happen to be the pastor of the Grandmother, not the thug him or herself. Stop making it look like your condoning the actions of these people. Life is about one word, "CHOICE". Our lives and the consequences of our lives are base on the "CHOICES" we make.this guy was clearly making some bad "CHOICES" right up until the time of his death. My condolences to the family however.
July 18, 2009 at 5:56 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
madd_dog2020 (anonymous) says...
So, I guess the 10 years old Caucasian boy who fell out of the deer stand and accidental shot himself in the head last week is somehow different then this story. All you Caucasian sent out or showed compassion for his parents. What about this young man's parents? Like I always said about all of you, all of you are hypocrites.
July 18, 2009 at 5:59 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
stanish (anonymous) says...
Posted by burton on July 18, 2009 at 12:32 p.m.
He was going to join what military? No recruiter in his right mind would have taken this guy; well, maybe the Army!! lol
Is that suppose to be humorous @burton? As a career veteran who served HONORABLY, yes I have seen certain cases where young men and women with criminal offenses were able to enlist and served HONORABLY also, and it wasn't the Army only. I saw and was privileged to see them turn their lives around and today are now productive citizens contributing to society, and yes most were BLACK! So it's very possible that Dionta Cochran as mentioned by his Pastor could've been one of those also! It's just a shame FATE had a different outcome!
July 18, 2009 at 6 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
madd_dog2020 (anonymous) says...
Posted by spengler on July 18, 2009 at 5:41 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Revenge of the Pants. Which military was he going to join? The American Military or the Obamacommie Zombie Army?
What a jack!!!
July 18, 2009 at 6:01 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
stanish (anonymous) says...
Posted by Brutus1 on July 18, 2009 at 1:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)
I usually dont laugh about people dying. But, this is too funny. And I dont feel sorry for this thug at all.
Too FUNNY? If this were in fact YOUR child, wife, brother, sister, mother, father, close friend, etc. would you consider it FUNNY? Just a thought for you to ponder. I don't believe anyone is soliciting your SYMPATHY.
July 18, 2009 at 6:13 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
wonderdog (anonymous) says...
Maybe that 10 year old didn't have a rap sheet, and maybe the gun was legal. I am not laughing because this guy died, but the stupidity of the circumstances would make an interesting story for "dumb crook news."
July 18, 2009 at 6:17 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
stanish (anonymous) says...
Posted by madd_dog2020 on July 18, 2009 at 5:59 p.m.
So, I guess the 10 years old Caucasian boy who fell out of the deer stand and accidental shot himself in the head last week is somehow different then this story. All you Caucasian sent out or showed compassion for his parents. What about this young man's parents? Like I always said about all of you, all of you are hypocrites.
That's the same example I was using @madd_dog2020. HYPOCRISY at it's best!
July 18, 2009 at 6:18 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
madd_dog2020 (anonymous) says...
Posted by Liberals_Are_Maroons on July 18, 2009 at 11:22 a.m. (Suggest removal)
It is a known fact that liberals have a higher percentage of post high school education. The rednecks and Racists education consist of elementary school, beer drinking, and watching the fox news channel; just a bunch of backwards bama!!!
July 18, 2009 at 6:20 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
madd_dog2020 (anonymous) says...
Posted by wonderdog on July 18, 2009 at 6:17 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Maybe that 10 year old didn't have a rap sheet, and maybe the gun was legal. I am not laughing because this guy died, but the stupidity of the circumstances would make an interesting story for "dumb crook news."
A young child should never be in procession of a weapon of any kind. Why was compassion shown too his family; they are the ones that placed him in that situation!!!
July 18, 2009 at 6:25 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
stanish (anonymous) says...
Posted by burton on July 18, 2009 at 5:02 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Relax,
We have to stop making excuses in the African American community. Pres Obama spoke at the 100th Anniversary of the NAACP and told them the same thing. Dionta was a career criminal and was only 19 years old. He was carrying a gun and if I read the story right it looks like they were about to murder someone.
I can't speak for Relax @burton, but I don't see where they are making EXCUSES for Dionta Cochran. I believe along with Relax that the RACIST comments from mostly Bigoted so called religious "christian" people REJOICING in someone's demise, especially when they are African_Americans! I'm not one to make EXCUSES and if anyone read my posts they will see in the clear where I stand on issues pertaining to the Black community as a whole. I see the unfair and callous remarks towards Pastor Brown for speaking some good about this young man, yet they prefer to overlook the pedophile actions of a White Pastor mentioned yesterday concerning Child Ponography! Unless I stand to be corrected, I did NOT read where he was getting ready to "murder" someone. Pastor Brown did NOT overlook the fact that he had some previous and current problems either! Dionta Cochran is a statistic now, but I also hope and pray that young and old people, especially African-Americans can learn a valuable lesson from this and resort to the more POSITIVE vs. NEGATIVE things in life. Some ways to beat that rap and stereotype is getting an education, self-determination, remaining positive, focused, and by implanting in your mind that the only person that can PREVENT you from being a SUCCESS or SUCCESSFUL is YOURSELF!
July 18, 2009 at 6:46 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
wonderdog (anonymous) says...
There are 10 year olds who hunt and know firearm safety. This one, however, was apparently in need of supervision and did not have it. One should always unload his/her weapon before climbing into or down from a deer stand.
I posted a few weeks ago that I am sick to my stomach over the murder of Jermel Brown. He was innocent and not involved with criminals. I have never said that Cochran deserved to die; however, a short life span appears to be a possible or even probable consequence of his life style, much the same as someone who drives drunk, deals drugs, associates with other illegally armed convicts or plays chicken with trains.
July 18, 2009 at 6:54 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
walleyedwoman1215 (anonymous) says...
Ms. Brown quoth: "Cochran was a good person who had plans to join the military after overcoming problems in his life."
With all due respect, let's talk about overcoming. My mother "overcame problems in [her] life." She was raised in neglect and poverty so abject her teeth rotted from her head. She was beaten. She started cropping tobacco at 13 so she could eat. She dropped out of school to work full-time to raise her youngest brother. I've seen the house she was raised in--I wouldn't allow livestock to live there. This is not family myth or lore--this is fact.
Fast forward 65 years. She has a lovely home, devoted children, many friends and all the books she can read. She volunteers at her church and votes in every election. THAT, Ms. Brown, is "overcoming problems."
July 18, 2009 at 7:35 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
deftec (anonymous) says...
oh the race thing..... those who call racism are the reason for racism. the naacp is just as much a cause of racism as any other pro-race organization. martin luther king jr had dreams of EQUALITY. allowing one race to have their own college's, beauty pagents, phonebooks, tv channles, etc etc while yelling at and suing other races for trying the same is not EQUALITY and i believe MLK would be pissed if he was still alive.
the white kid that fell from the tree stand was not a mennace to society (yet).
he was not carrying a gun unlawfuly.
he had not commited armed robbery in his youth.
he was not busting a sag or acting as if he were playing some gangsta rapper in a movie becuase it looks cool.
the fact is this dbag got what he deserved.. and yes, deserved. it doesn't matter if he was black or white. it matters that his own actions caused his own death.
live by the sword, die by the sword.
unfortunately for him he won't be remembered as the innocent changed upstanding citizen his family tried to partray him as.
July 18, 2009 at 8:04 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
bluman111 (anonymous) says...
It is the usual "he or she were getting their lives in order"..that goes along with the high school photo and academic record.(a lot different than the mug shot and criminal record we have of that subject). Those are the words that most Reverends and laywers use. It is a bittter sweet moment for the Mother of this young thug. She is in pain for losing her child..but she knows that the lord took him before he takes some innocent persons life. He was not carrying the gun to force people to attend church services..he was a straight my life or yours to the end type of thug. The good lord saved someone or a few people that day.
July 18, 2009 at 9:02 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
hairy1663 (anonymous) says...
Posted by madd_dog2020 on July 18, 2009 at 6:20 p.m. (Suggest removal)
It is a known fact that liberals have a higher percentage of post high school education. The rednecks and Racists education consist of elementary school, beer drinking, and watching the fox news channel; just a bunch of backwards bama!!!
I'd like to see the resources that support this "known fact". Considering that was a pretty racist comment you made yourself,which elementary school did you drop out of?
July 18, 2009 at 9:09 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
hairy1663 (anonymous) says...
Posted by madd_dog2020 on July 18, 2009 at 6:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)
A young child should never be in procession of a weapon of any kind. Why was compassion shown too his family; they are the ones that placed him in that situation!!!
Thats your opinion and an uninformed one to say the least. I've been hunting since the age of 8, my son started at 10 and my daughter at 12. It's one of the ways that the family spends time together. I know this may seem strange to a liberal,how we cling to guns and religion ya know. But I wouldn't expect any different from those that are so out of touch with America. I also can't see how one party can insist that another should try and understand it's position while insulting the other (remember the redneck remark). As far as compassion is concerned, it's much easier given to those that have not intentionally gone out of their way to hurt others.
July 18, 2009 at 9:31 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
wonderdog (anonymous) says...
Excellent post, hairy1663.
July 18, 2009 at 10:04 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
MRSCVS (anonymous) says...
I am sorry a life was loss but there is a saying that goes a lil like this " you live by the sword you will also die by the sword."
Guns do not KILL people People kill with guns and sometimes they Kill themselves.
JMO
July 18, 2009 at 11:31 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
SCPDBLUE (anonymous) says...
Once apon a time there was a gangsta wantabe who thought it was cool to carry a gun but didnt now how to carry it,He places the gun in his pocket of his sagging gangsta pants and while tring to get into or out of his car his he shoot himself. THE END... moral of the story dont carry a gun and acted like a stupid gangsta or you might shoot yourself dead..... Gun:$300(most likely stolen), Gangsta sagging pants: $60 to $100 (likley bought with drug money), Gangsta wantabe shoot himself: PRICELESS
July 18, 2009 at 11:59 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
madd_dog2020 (anonymous) says...
Posted by hairy1663 on July 18, 2009 at 9:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Posted by madd_dog2020 on July 18, 2009 at 6:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)
A young child should never be in procession of a weapon of any kind. Why was compassion shown too his family; they are the ones that placed him in that situation!!!
Thats your opinion and an uninformed one to say the least. I've been hunting since the age of 8, my son started at 10 and my daughter at 12. It's one of the ways that the family spends time together. I know this may seem strange to a liberal,how we cling to guns and religion ya know. But I wouldn't expect any different from those that are so out of touch with America. I also can't see how one party can insist that another should try and understand it's position while insulting the other (remember the redneck remark). As far as compassion is concerned, it's much easier given to those that have not intentionally gone out of their way to hurt others.
I spent 23 years in the army, and have a degree in "Sports and Health Science." What do you have? And yes, I remember the redneck remark; still stand by it. So go ahead and drive your pick-up trucks with that Rebel flag sticker on the back window, and gun rack inside. We all know who the violent individuals are; just check he history books. Change has come and will continue to happen. So, either get on board, or get out of the way. I remember watching clips of a Sarah Palin rally; which took placed in Fla. I remember how all those bama's were saying all those hateful thing about a US Senator and then Presidential contender; even echo-ing "Kill him." Now I ask, what did he did too them? Nothing!!! So yes, when you guy's show compassion for one family and nothing but laughter for the other; then you all deserved to be called bama's and rednecks. Why? Because you and yours saw color in the demise of these two individuals; both should be seen as humans. So if the shoe fits wear it and wear well. But just remember all hateful individuals receive their just rewards in the end.
July 19, 2009 at 12:01 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
realman (anonymous) says...
"He was a very outgoing young man; he was very sweet," Brown said. "He was a part of our youth ministry. Always wanted to do the right thing. Yes, he had some trouble in the past, but when he came out, he had his head on right."
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Are you kidding me? He had his head on right? Hey, MADD_DOG, was this 19 year old hunting deer or hunting drugs? I'd like to know who his father is. I promise you, when a young man like this has a rap sheet and is carrying around an illegal weapon, you can virtually always trace his behavior back to the lack of having a father in his life.
July 19, 2009 at 12:42 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Takebackurcountry (anonymous) says...
Posted by madd_dog2020 on July 19, 2009 at 12:01 a.m
"But just remember all hateful individuals receive their just rewards in the end."
...and you definitely seem hateful.
July 19, 2009 at 12:49 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
dessy1 (anonymous) says...
im white and i voted for obama, im educated, and as for the 11 yr old a few weeks ago i called that one how i saw it and said the parents should have been arrested for neglect....
as for this, im sorry but this guy was nothing more then a thug. just another gun toting criminal walking the streets. and im glad he wont actually kill some decient person in his next robbery attempt,
as for the pastor (wtf) if my child attended her church ide snatch her out as quick as i could. ide really like to hear what she thinks is a bad person ( how many pages do you need on youre wrap sheet to be considered a threat to society )
July 19, 2009 at 12:58 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
hairy1663 (anonymous) says...
Posted by madd_dog2020 on July 19, 2009 at 12:01 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I spent 23 years in the army, and have a degree in "Sports and Health Science." What do you have?
Enough common sense not to get a degree for P.E.
23 years in the Army, what was your MOS?
By the way, an MS in math and 21B. I guess I'm not your average redneck.
Change hasn't come yet and the way it's going it will be short lived.
And I remember videos of the black panthers intimidating voters in Philly but I'm not the kind of person to stereo type all black Americans because of their actions.
madd_dog2020, if you can't see the difference between a 10 year old boy with no previous record and a 19 year old man who's spent most of his life doing others harm. Your more out of touch than I thought!
July 19, 2009 at 1:34 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
wonderdog (anonymous) says...
It takes PARENTS to raise children, and if they do a crappy job, the "village" is up against incredible odds. My children are MY responsibility and no one else's.
To paraphrase Jackie Kennedy, if you mess up raising your children, it really doesn't matter what else you do with your life.
July 19, 2009 at 8:31 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
BlackReign (anonymous) says...
WOW. There is no denying the obvious about this young man. Served time for conviction for strong-arm robbery, was carrying a HANDGUN, while a convicted felon (and even if he were not convicted, I believe you have to be 21 to have a handgun).
He had 'plans' to join the military and was part of the youth ministry - maybe he was trying to work out his life, but was failing to do so. I dont know, I cant judge his heart.
Now, once again I am breaking my 'dont comment on these stories' rule. But, once again, I can not understand that the obvious 'joy' that some of the many posters laughing at this tragic event are getting because this young man shot himself by accident. Its not funny, its not Darwinism, its tragice, tfirst that he was living the way he was a second, that many of the commenters find this funny and seem to be 'happy' with the outcome.
AND the perception is that you that find it funny, think that way because you can sit there and say; Black on Black crimes, another black thug --- BLACK BLACK BLACK. Does that mean because he was black, he was somehow ~less~ human?
The bigger tragedy being the second - findiing it funny. You know dang weel that other young 'thugs' are reading this stuff and maybe even the family and pastor.
- Does anyone for moment consider that the above comments could justify the black communities perception of many whites as uncaring about the black community? So why should the black community even trust the leadership of whites that are voted in as Mayor or sheriff? Or trust LE?
I dont know man, it is truly a sick mind that finds the outcome of this young man's life as funny.
Sure, he caused his death and led the life he did, no excuses.
But what are the excuses of those that think this is a "GOOD" ending to a "WORTHLESS" life?
July 19, 2009 at 9:06 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Conan_the_Grammarian (anonymous) says...
Black reign, perhaps I missed any comments that indicated that whites don't care about the black community? Please point them out to me in this comments section. Thanks. Otherwise, you are ascribing the wrong motives to people here, and time is long past for that to stop.
Additionally, I don't need to provide an "excuse" for my belief that society is much better off without an armed felon who victimized society, and was in the process of committing another felony when he was responsible for the loss of his own life. I hope more repeat-offender violent felons are removed from society. However it happens is of no concern to me, as long as it doesn't harm any innocent people, and as long as it is done as cheaply as possible.
And I hope that pastor is reading this, so that she can understand that the correct response to this criminal's death is not to call him "sweet" or "good" or to say he "was on the right track;" the correct response is to point to his death and teach her church members that the path he took leads to death and prison, and others need to make better choices.
July 19, 2009 at 9:53 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
BlackReign (anonymous) says...
Conan_the_Grammarian - "lack reign, perhaps I missed any comments that indicated that whites don't care about the black community? Please point them out to me in this comments section."
- maybe you should read what I posted;
"Does anyone for moment consider that the above comments ~ **could** justify the black communities ~ **perception** of many whites as uncaring about the black community? So why should the black community even trust the leadership of whites that are voted in as Mayor or sheriff? Or trust LE?"
You see the words COULD & PERCEPTION?
Also, I am addressing specific posters;
'...it is truly a sick mind that finds the outcome of this young man's life as funny.'
Also, I am commenting on the undeniable fact, that every article in the online PnC that has to do with blacks and crime, get so many bigoted posts it is disgusting.
"AND the perception is that you that find it funny, think that way because you can sit there and say; Black on Black crimes, another black thug --- BLACK BLACK BLACK. Does that mean because he was black, he was somehow ~less~ human?"
Now,
thank you conan, for your input.
July 19, 2009 at 10:18 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
yird (anonymous) says...
"He was a very outgoing young man; he was very sweet," Brown said. "He was a part of our youth ministry. Always wanted to do the right thing. Yes, he had some trouble in the past, but when he came out, he had his head on right."
Cochran spent 10 months in prison after a conviction for strong-arm robbery. He was released in April.
On June 5, he was arrested and accused of shooting a firearm in West Ashley.
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I find these comment troubling because they do nothing to address the real problem which is a whole generation of youths with no concrete values and no moral compass to guide themselves by.
The stupid racists comments by both camps are in most cases without merit.
This young man died as a result of many factors, including but not limited to, lack of a cohesive family unit, peers with the same disadvantage, lack of strict discipline in the school system, the failed policies of the War on Poverty, mentally and morally degrading programming on VH1, MTV, and especially BET which emphasizes the gangsta rap, hip hop life style as "cool".
Those claiming that all us "rednecks" are racist morons need to turn their attention inward and seek resolutions to the problems affecting members of their own community and quit behaving like racists morons.
July 19, 2009 at 10:27 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
CWL922 (anonymous) says...
These are the reasons people are "Happy" he is gone. He will no longer terrorize the community with his actions. He will not be able to kill anyone in the future. His very close freinds and family can see the consequences of his lawless actions. They will feel the pain of losing someone due to gun violence. Maybe they will learn to be more responsible in their actions. I could go on and on.
July 19, 2009 at 10:52 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Conan_the_Grammarian (anonymous) says...
Blackreign, in that case, I merely reiterate the last sentence of my first paragraph above. Neither I nor anyone else on here should be required to refute a fallacious assumption on your part.
Good day, sir.
July 19, 2009 at 11:03 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
BlackReign (anonymous) says...
Conan, I was not requiring anyone to "refute a fallacious assumption" on my part.
I was simply sharing an opinion. However, all one needs to do is read any past group of articles that are about black crime/black on black crime, and they would see that it is not 'poor reasoning' on my part to point out that there is an undeniable fact, that every article in the online PnC that has to do with blacks and crime, get so many bigoted posts it is disgusting.
You want honesty about some of these posters motives? You seem like a 'smart' person, read some of the comments. There is no need for me to
be 'ascribing the wrong motives to people here' when it is obvious.
As for yet another thug/felon dead and gone, yes, its hard not to say he got what he deserved. But taking joy in it and then lambasting one segment of society as all being like this kid? Thats bigoted.
July 19, 2009 at 11:40 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Conan_the_Grammarian (anonymous) says...
Blackreign, I again invite you to provide proof of your assertion that ANYONE commenting on this story thus far has been "lambasting one segment of society as all being like this kid."
Absenting such proof, you are merely inferring wildly, rather than relying on facts, and that is as bad for society as actual bigotry.
July 19, 2009 at 11:49 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Conan_the_Grammarian (anonymous) says...
Actually, blackreign, I found an example of someone in this comments section painting an entire segment of society with a single brush, but it actually is completely counter to your argument:
"Posted by madd_dog2020 on July 18, 2009 at 5:59 p.m. (Suggest removal)
So, I guess the 10 years old Caucasian boy who fell out of the deer stand and accidental shot himself in the head last week is somehow different then this story. All you Caucasian sent out or showed compassion for his parents. What about this young man's parents? Like I always said about all of you, all of you are hypocrites."
Hmmm... there is indeed racism in these comments, blackreign, but it originates from the opposite end of the spectrum than from which you claim.
July 19, 2009 at noon ( permalink | suggest removal )
yird (anonymous) says...
BR, you might as well cease with the back and forth with the grammar queen. Like another poster we are both well aware of this one will most likely never admit to being anything but right, or will take a different tack to avoid a head on yes/no, right/wrong finale.
Whatever potential young Mr.Cochran had was never to be realized due to the choices he made which were influenced by the things I listed in my July 19, 2009 at 10:27 a.m post.
Is it a good thing that a 19 year old is dead?
Certainly not.
Is it a good thing that another gun toting criminal will no longer burden the taxpayers?
Certainly is.
July 19, 2009 at 12:11 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
BlackReign (anonymous) says...
Yird, You may be right about conan. Obviously he missed this;
Posted by jimjones on July 18, 2009 at 12:46 a.m. (Suggest removal)
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!!!!
Oh my, I haven't laughed that hard in a long time. Sorry. Let me catch my breath....karma man, get ya every time.
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Posted by Smart_Enough_2_Know_Better on July 18, 2009 at 1:30 a.m. (Suggest removal)
And so the "Is that a gun in your pocket or are you just happy to see me?" question was clearly answered that time.
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Funny, conan has a post between those 2.
And again, this was the main point of my posts;
Also, I am addressing specific posters;
'...it is truly a sick mind that finds the outcome of this young man's life as funny.'
As I said before conan -
'... that every article in the online PnC that has to do with blacks and crime, get so many bigoted posts it is disgusting.'
Check it out yourself, BTW, I am white. So you can sideline your underlying assumptions.
July 19, 2009 at 1:16 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Conan_the_Grammarian (anonymous) says...
None of the things you posted is an example of "lambasting one segment of society as all being like this kid," blackreign. As a matter of fact, I'm not quite understanding how your last post relates to your argument or my request that you provide proof of your assertions, or anything else. It's all just a jumble of quotes, that don't really demonstrate anything.
I suppose you are yet another commenter who just wants to hold an opinion, without being able to support it with logic or factual examples. Drama plays better with people like that. Intelligent citizens look beyond all the hyperbole.
July 19, 2009 at 1:44 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
BlackReign (anonymous) says...
Again, my original post at 9:06am was;
"I can not understand the obvious 'joy' that some of the many posters laughing at this tragic event are getting because this young man shot himself by accident. Its not funny, its not Darwinism, its tragic, first that he was living the way he was & second, that many of the commenters find this funny and seem to be 'happy' with the outcome."
Conan - go here and read through some of the comments that were not deleted;
One example that wasnt deleted;
Posted by ysillyme on July 14, 2009 at 9:26 a.m. (Suggest removal)
A black killing another black..that's not news. Now this is news; "Good morning from channel 3 home of the viper weather, this just in from Action News NO BLACK KILLED ANOTHER BLACK IN CHARLESTON YESTERDAY".
http://www.postandcourier.com/news/20...
you will see lambasting at its best.
My second point is clear enough, the same posters that find this funny, contribute to the '..perception is that you that find it funny, think that way because you can sit there and say; Black on Black crimes, another black thug --- BLACK BLACK BLACK. Does that mean because he was black, he was somehow ~less~ human?'
Like I said, look at any article that has a black crime as the topic and you will see the bigotry.
Posted by BlackReign on July 14, 2009 at 10:07 a.m. (Suggest removal)
therealtruth, really? Pray tell, how you came to that ignorant assumption.
I find the constant attack of the black community on every single article that involves black on black crime nothing more than an opportunist's attempt at belittling all blacks and equating all blacks as 'welfare recipients'.
But using the death of yet another black youth as a means of degrading the black community is cowardly and bigoted.
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It is common on these pages. There may not be any overt referrence to blacks here, but the perception remains. Based on the history of many commenters that use black crime articles to degrade blacks.
July 19, 2009 at 2:10 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Conan_the_Grammarian (anonymous) says...
I see, BR. You choose to complain about certain people's comments on another article in an article where no one is doing the thing you are complaining about. Makes perfect sense.
July 19, 2009 at 2:35 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
BlackReign (anonymous) says...
Hmmm, BR huh? Conan, do you know a ltgrunt???
Sure, if you call pointing out obvious bigotry and hatred complaining.
July 19, 2009 at 4:13 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
issuetaker (anonymous) says...
I wish the article had said how he came into possession of the gun in the first place, if they knew. Odds are, whatever way it was, it wasn't legally. No doubt the clamor will start to toughen up the gun laws. It didn't do a bit of good keeping this one from a felon's hands. If he would deceive the good pastor, no doubt he'd deceive the Feds on their little forms.
July 19, 2009 at 10:08 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
ShooterBob_SC (anonymous) says...
I say we shouldn't release what really happened! Now those morons will stop carrying their pistols in their pockets where they can shoot themselves! Also, a one shot kill with a .32 is something else too. What'd it take that attorney at the AA meeting when that low-slung pants wearing idiot came in there waving a gun around, 3, 4 shots? That guy made it a block or so, right? Bam! Dead on Driveway. What a shot!
Funny? Heck yeah! He'd already been in jail once for 10 months. We see how well that worked! He got busted about 2 months after he got out. If he really wanted to join the military he would have discussed with the judge, his attorney, which I and YOU paid for, about it and been in basic training instead of shooting off guns and his mouth around Charleston as soon as he got out.
I'll give the pastor a pass, she's just passing on her 'wishful thinking fixes things' policy that makes the parents of these hoodlums feel better when they end up dead or in for life. She'll answer one day to her 'Boss' as to why she never made a real difference in this young man's life if she was ever truly able to. I suspect not after an armed robbery conviction and his other 'alleged' crimes.
Lastly, this is the type of person that has me carrying a cocked and locked .45 and looking real hard at any black youth with baggy pants and an SUV... (mine's in a holster and I've got papers saying it's ok to be there, but then again, I never committed armed robbery and know how to wear my pants)
July 20, 2009 at 12:40 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
SCPDBLUE (anonymous) says...
ShooterBob_SC, Way to go,thats what i'am talking about. a person who really speaks his mind.the truth will set you free.Amen brother
July 20, 2009 at 3:25 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
eZachLee_Wright (anonymous) says...
BlackReign had a couple of mistakes. The following is one "I believe you have to be 21 to have a handgun". Credit given to BR for the "I believe" qualification.
In the vast majority of states the legal age for owning a handgun is 18. You cannot buy a new handgun until you are 21 but you can legally purchase one from a private person at age 18. The federal law is not violated by either the buyer or the seller in this case.
The federal law prohibits licensed dealers (holders of a FFL) from selling handguns or handgun ammo to someone under 21 but there is no such restriction on private sales. Most states do not have an additional age restriction.
The thug who got himself killed ignored a basic tennet of firearms safety which is never carry a pistol without a holster. Pocket holsters are available that help keep the pistol orientated (pointed) the correct direction and cover the trigger. That "cover the trigger" thing is real important.
Many will doubt me on the age thing but I have a source that is hard to deny. The US Attorney over the Steve McNair killing stated 7-17-09 that those 18 through 20 who buy handguns in a private transaction own their guns legally. His name is Edward Yarbrough and you can goggle it to you heart's content. That said if the thug had a felony record he could not legally touch a firearm of any kind. And regardless of his race, he was a thug.
Now, please say my name slowly.
Yours truly: E. Zach Lee-Wright
July 21, 2009 at 4:19 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
DaleVanderMeer (anonymous) says...
Don't you know what " saggin' " spelt backwards is? Then you will get to the bottom of this "crime". Maybe this will teach the gangsta thugs a lesson that flirting with the gangsta "lifestyle" can kill you.
July 22, 2009 at 9:30 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
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