S.C. GOP leaders censure Sanford
Committee vote falls short of urging his resignation
By Robert Behre , Yvonne Wenger
COLUMBIA — Republicans across South Carolina voted Monday to censure Gov. Mark Sanford following his recently disclosed extramarital affair and absence from office while visiting his mistress in Argentina.
South Carolina Governor Mark Sanford
The vote followed an evening conference call among state GOP executive committee members from the state's 46 counties, a call that lasted more than three hours. The decision was a sort of a middle ground — by no means a show of support but one that fell short of a call for his resignation.
Twenty-two members of the committee voted on the formal reprimand of Sanford. Ten voted to ask him to resign, while nine voted to support the governor.
Sanford said in a statement that he appreciates the party's position and will continue to work to earn back its trust.
Charleston County GOP Chair Lin Bennett, who participated in the call, said Sanford violated the public trust and what the party stands for.
"We just feel the governor's actions were not in conformance with our basic core values and principles," she said. "This was difficult on everyone out there. The governor broke their hearts, and he did breach their trust."
She hoped the party's decision will allow Sanford and the rest of the state to refocus attention on South Carolina's problems, which include one of the nation's highest unemployment rates.
Earlier Monday, Sanford stopped by the Port of Charleston but left without a public comment about the latest efforts to prevent terrorism. Some observers wondered if that harkened to a new approach to his job, an approach that would rely less on his use of the bully pulpit to push his agenda.
They noted his public appearances might be more of a distraction as they draw questions away from policy and to his sex life.
Clemson University political science professor Dave Woodard said a disappearance from the public radar will likely be Sanford's modus operandi for the next 18 months that he's in office.
"You're not going to have business as usual," Woodard said.
Sanford also could be seen as an unwelcome distraction for the Republican Party and will likely hurt the ability to raise money.
Immediate past GOP Chairman Katon Dawson said Republicans in South Carolina are embarrassed by Sanford. Dawson asked Sanford to give the party some of his campaign money because the governor's recent actions made it harder on the GOP to raise cash.
Dawson said Sanford asked for a little room to breathe and has not responded.
Sanford has $1.7 million left in campaign money. The governor's office would not comment on what the governor plans to do with the cash. He is barred by state law from seeking a third term as governor, but he could decide to run for another office.
Woodard said he does not expect Sanford to bend. The governor's political career has been a march off the beaten path, he said.
The State Law Enforcement Division cleared Sanford last week of misuse of public money. The agency reviewed five trips the governor had during which he met with his mistress Maria Belen Chapur in Argentina and New York.
Sanford spent time with Chapur while in Argentina in June 2008 for a state commerce trip. The Commerce Department had originally planned the trip for Brazil but Sanford requested the agency extend the mission to include Argentina. Last week, Sanford repaid the state about $3,000 for the Argentine leg of the tip.
First lady Jenny Sanford also tried Monday to get back to a regular summertime rhythm.
She greeted a reporter for The Post and Courier at her Sullivan's Island home but said it was a bad time to talk because she was making lunch with her children.
University of South Carolina political science professor Blease Graham said Sanford might be able to survive politically, too. He just has to get back on message.
"It's a Humpty Dumpty state of normalcy, having fallen off the wall," Graham said. "I suppose normalcy is putting things put back together again as best they can be."
The Resolution
The censure resolution passed by the State Executive Committee read:
"Whereas, the South Carolina Republican Party adopts this Resolution of Censure as a unified expression of the Party's opinion in the recent matter relating to Governor Marshall Clement Sanford, Jr.; and
"Whereas, the South Carolina Republican Party adheres to a set of core principles and beliefs, primarily but not exclusively expressed in our Platform; and
"Whereas, the revelations regarding Governor Sanford's private and public conduct demonstrate repeated failures to act in accordance with these core principles and beliefs; and
"Whereas, Governor Sanford's conduct, in addition to falling below the standards expected of Republican elected officials, has breached the public's trust and confidence in his ability to effectively perform the duties of his office; and
"Whereas, a formal admonishment by the South Carolina Republican Party is appropriate and necessary and, barring further revelations, will be the Party's last word on the matter;
"Therefore, be it resolved, that the South Carolina Republican Party does, with great regret, censure Governor Mark Sanford for his recent conduct."
Statement from SCGOP Chairman Karen Floyd on censure of Governor Mark Sanford
COLUMBIA - South Carolina Republican Party Chairman Karen Floyd tonight released the following statement after the South Carolina Republican Party State Executive Committee voted to censure Governor Mark Sanford:
"The events of the past two weeks have been as divisive as they have been disappointing for Republicans. But today has brought a large measure of resolution to a sad chapter in our State Party's history. Republicans came together to speak with a unified voice, and now is the time for healing.
"Now is the time for healing for the Sanford family. We must pray for them - Mark, Jenny and their four beautiful boys. Now is the time for healing for the Republican Party. We must hold true to our core beliefs and re-commit to being Republican now more than ever before. And now is the time for healing for our great State.
"The task ahead of us is tall. But as Ronald Reagan said, the best days are ahead of us. We are now united and we pledge to focus our energy and efforts on finding conservative solutions to the challenges facing South Carolina."
Paul Bowers and The Associated Press contributed.
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lloyd007 (anonymous) says...
Seems to me that TEN out-numbers NINE..Why is this guy still in office??..Also the people would like to know via "The Freedom of Imformation Act",who are these so called NINE supporter who approved of this idiot.They sure as hell would not be getting any votes from the people in their district. This was a violation of MORALS. Do any of these so called supporters have any ( Morals )???..Do these self-rightous fake BUTT Christians think they are doing the work of the people,Whom they were elected to serve???.Instead here you crooks are playing politics as usual.Maybe when we take to the streets to demand this man's removal,you guys will start to see that we(the people) mean business..we need to be about pulling this state out of the muck and mire that it is presently in and not have this DEAD WEIGHT holding us down because he chooses to be an "ALL ABOUT ME INDIVIDUAL"..Screw this guy...RESIGN or BE IMPEACHED or we take to the polls and the streets..!!!
July 7, 2009 at 1:49 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
nickl (anonymous) says...
Lloyd,
Perhaps you are being a little to extreme. I have long been a supporter of Gov Snaford until the reports of his affair. Of course I cannot condone that. What gets me is the majority of the people calling for his head are the same people that felt we should cut President Clinton a break with is affairs. I agreed taht Clinton should have been removed from office then so I cannot be a hypocrite and say that Sanford should not be punished. However, the extenive investigations have found that Gov Sanford paid for his affairs out of his own pocket. It caused no direct negative effects to the people of SC. Again, I agree that he should be punished. He should resign and take the time to focus on his family. I am a REAL Christian (which you obviously don't beleive in) and belive in forgiveness and I don't feel he warrants the verbal bashing and threats he has received. But he should resign. He has been a good governor until now but the time has come.
July 7, 2009 at 2 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
ballachulish (anonymous) says...
Nicki,
The people who supported Clinton aren't hypocrites for calling for Sanford's resignation, we're Christians who believe in Exodus' "Eye for an Eye" part of the Bible.
Sanford called for Clinton's resignation, his supporters are calling for Sanford's. Simple.
Repaying $$$ after you get caught is still stealing, lying about your whereabouts, was irresponsible and had more of an impact on his constituants than Clinton getting some on the side while he was working 18 hour days.
July 7, 2009 at 2:53 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
loreann (anonymous) says...
Judge him solely on his dereliction of official duties and his amoral actions - going back - by our inept Governor's own admissions - over eight years.
Which means his entire campaign and election as our governor was a discredited farse. A joke. A lie. He LIED in order to secure the office of governor - stating he was a loving, caring, God fearing Christian who was monogomously dedicated ONLY to his wife.
He LIED about everything he was - and as such our state needs to DEMAND he resign. I certainly never would have voted for him if he had been honest about who he truly was eight years ago.
Nothing justifies lying to the people in order to further yourself opportunistically - nothing.
RESIGN Sanford. RESIGN.
July 7, 2009 at 3:04 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
nickl (anonymous) says...
it's nickl not nicki, and they are hypocrites. I believe that Sanford should resign. He did not lie about his whereabouts. He didn't tell anyone at all where he was going. They ASSUMED that he went to the mountains and that's what his people told everybody. What he did had NO impact on the people of SC and if you beleive that Clinton's affair had less effect on the country than you are grossly negilent in your understanding of the Office of the President. And like I said, yes Sanford called for Clinton's resignation, and he should resign as well. What my problem is, is with the people that are screaming for Sanford's head on a platter when his actions did not harm them in anyway, who with straightfaces condoned President Clinton's inexcusible actions. I beleive that all elected officials should hold themselves to a high moral standard. Gov. Sanford was a good Gov. but he made a mistake that he should resign because of. But, sadly, as polls have showed, many of these same loud advocates for his removal didn't know enough about the state government to even be able to tell you who the Govorner was until they were told he'd had an affair. His actions cost the State nothing. The investigations concluded that he did in fact pay for his trips out of his own pocket. Yes the affair started while he was technically on tax payers dollar and that is what he has paid back but he did not orginally go to Argintina with the intent of having an affair and therefore it was not truely stealing. He went there on a bus trip. Got mixed up in something he shouldn't and then gave back the money that was spent for that bus trip because of his mistake.
July 7, 2009 at 3:12 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
zola (anonymous) says...
Spank Spank Spank
Marco's been a bad boy
And our Really Smart Legislative Solons have circumvented the uncomfortable fact that to shove the Gov out and install the, shall we say, "all too often indiscreet/walking train wreck" Lt. Gov would be a disaster of metaphysical proportion.
So...Glenn The Mac and B Harrell get to keep a conveniently weakened dog to kick and we are spared the antics of the Boy Genius.
Meanwhile the Sanford surrogates will continue to preen and moan and preach.
Dear Friends of Jenny-Please put a sock in it.
Dear Friends of Mark-Please go away.
And if any of you out there want to see what this is all about, just go google up Rene Magritte's painting entitled:
The Giant
Later Dudes.
July 7, 2009 at 3:42 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
jacman (anonymous) says...
Being somewhat new to the area I'm somewhat perplexed about all this " Christian " talk . Where are all these Christian's out there ? The only thing I have noticed is a group of people who are so far behind the times they don't realize this is 2009 not 1859 . This is the same " Christian " people who owned and raped their slaves back then ! " Christians " ? Are you for real ?
July 7, 2009 at 4:38 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
AMAZING (anonymous) says...
The Lovenator Mark "Phony" Sanfraud "demonstrated repeated failures to act in accordance with these core principles and beliefs; and...
"Whereas, The Lovenator Mark "Phony" Sanfraud's conduct, in addition to falling below the standards expected of Republican elected officials, and ...
The Lovenator Mark "Phony" Sanfraud REPEATEDLY "breached "the public's trust and confidence in his ability to effectively perform the duties of his office"
AND ...REPEATEDLY "breached "the public's trust
July 7, 2009 at 5:07 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
larry0512 (anonymous) says...
Time to reevaluate "family values" because religious SC residents are to preoccuplied w/sex and politics mix. It's become the National Enquirer mentality. Just a big circus! Religion weakens a man's mind and replaces it with the "brain of God". Hence, judgement errors are made by those (in SC) who talk TOO much about the bible. A bunch of hypocritical people you are! Our Governor is ONLY guilty of being MIA. Period. There's only ONE reason a man has a mistress. And it's with wife not keeping her part of the togetherness thru-out their life. That's right; First attraction is and will always be the same thru-out the marriage and must be maintained. Atleast Mrs Sanford has opened her mind and is willing to try to bring back a "true" marriaged. One that shares all thoughts and actions. Now, let's hope we can get onto real journalism. Our culture as it's today will not exist 30to50 yrs from now. Is that what you want? Wake up and change w/ the times so are grandkids/great grandkids will have the culture we know today.
July 7, 2009 at 5:13 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
WhoCares (anonymous) says...
Oh give the guy a break. At least he's not out running around killing cereal.
July 7, 2009 at 6:04 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
moonpie (anonymous) says...
He should resign or be impeached. Since SLED alrady cleared him of breaking any laws then that will not happen. So just resign please sir. You have lost the trust of the people.
How can you sit in front of company leaders and get them to come to SC and get us out of this unemployment quandry we are now in?
How can you advance the good for SC any longer? You have failed politically now take your marbles and run!
July 7, 2009 at 6:06 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
AMAZING (anonymous) says...
Republican Party reprimanded Sanfraud for secretly leaving the state to visit his lover in Argentina.
Two weeks ago, Sanfraud's whereabouts became a high-profile mystery as his staff struggled to explain the governor's absence. Sanford turned off both his private cell phone and state-issued cell phone for days. It later was revealed Sanford went on a secret trip to Buenos Aires to visit his lover.
Sanfraud was not in regular communication with his staff and did not turn over power to the lieutenant governor while he was gone. He did not respond to text messages or voice messages left by law enforcement officials.
Sanford has said he misled his staff to believe he was hiking the Appalachian Trail.
Sir, did you plan a trip out of the country for ten days and not tell anyone where you were going? uh uh uh ...that was my fault ... uh uh uh ...wait let me finish...
Sir, upon your return from Argentina, did you lie about all the facts and circumstances surrounding your trip? ...uh uh uh ...That was my fault ...uh uh uh ...wait let me finish...
Sir, how long has this been going on? uh uh uh ...three times, no wait, I think it's more like five times, no wait ...I think it's seven times ...oh oh oh ...no, it' really been eight years ... WAIT, in 1995, there was that trip to Chile, don't forget about that one ...that would make it about fourteen years.
Sir, is that everything? YEP, that's all of it!
Sir, when do plan to stop lying about all of this? uh uh uh ... If you guys stop asking me questions ...uh uh uh ...well ...then, I'll stop lying to you. BTW, you will never be able to pin anything on me. Catch me if you can, and by the way ...uh uh uh ...I still have frequent flier miles left ....hahahahaheheheheh .... ¡Adios Amigos! ...arrivederci !!!! see ya South of the Border ...you bunch of peckerheads, who needs ya anyway.
July 7, 2009 at 6:31 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
eatmorecollards (anonymous) says...
Wow, the South Carolina Republican Party is going to censure Sanford. They are going to give him a political slap on the risk. Times like this I'm glad I'm a independent. I can't wait to give his republican supporters a political boot in the rear end at the polls.
July 7, 2009 at 6:44 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
rick405 (anonymous) says...
He just needs to go away, take his family, soul mate, lies and scandal and just go away.
July 7, 2009 at 6:46 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
lillycollette (anonymous) says...
"Whereas, a formal admonishment by the South Carolina Republican Party is appropriate and necessary and, barring further revelations, will be the Party's last word on the matter;
"Therefore, be it resolved, that the South Carolina Republican Party does, with great regret, censure Governor Mark Sanford for his recent conduct."
____________________________________________________
Well, La-De-Da isn't that SPECIAL.
My "last word on the matter" is -- RESIGN!
July 7, 2009 at 6:51 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
bobielfield (anonymous) says...
Our Lovernor is the new defnition of "hypocrite" and I hope thousands of irate, decent SCarolinians show up for the Resignation Rally in Columbia this Thursday ... and kudos to the PC for it thorough and excellent coverage of this story and particlarly to Yvonne Wegner and everyone else who contributes to this bizarre, outlandish story ... Of course he should resign but his HUGE ego and arrogance will not permit it ...
July 7, 2009 at 6:53 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
stevechas (anonymous) says...
Sanford will be the same governor that he has been for his whole time in office - ineffective. Basically, his entire agenda has been to destroy public education, have the state pay for rich kids to go to private schools and make sure that corporations and the uber - wealthy pay even less taxes than they now pay. While he takes whirlwind "development trips", the Port is leaking business like a sieve, the port of Savannah gains business and size (some of that property curiously close to land that is owned by the governor's family and friends, and our unemployment rate rivals Michigan's.
The man should not be removed because he violated some made up "Christian " rule book. He should have been voted out in 06 because he is a bad and inept governor. You chose to keep him. It is too late for him to resign to maintain any dignity. He can sit in his office for a year and a half now, make calls to all those wealthy former allies of his, he has been dropped like a handful of cow droppings. It will be lonely, but at least he will not be able to obstruct anymore attempts to educate our children and put our adults back to work.
And, by the way, what has President Clinton have to do with this, other than serve as an example of Mark Sanford's hypocrisy and unbridled opportunism? Two things which are not cause for removal from office.
July 7, 2009 at 7:01 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
AMAZING (anonymous) says...
In order to be a "soul-mate", you first have to have a soul. This fraud has no soul and if he does, it's empty, there's nothing there. NOTHING!
___________________________________________
Please no God talk in your wife-cheating press conference
Sanfraud's infidelity press conference was filled with references to God.
Is this the best choice?
This may be appropriate if you are being more honest, humble and personally responsible than the average spouse-cheating-Mea-Culpa press conference. Unfortunately, the public did not perceive it as such. ...the governor did not act responsible. Sandraud did not take 100% responsibility when he refused to admit at his press conference that he deceived his staff during the week long disappearance fiasco.
Sanfraud looked further out of control when he uncovered that this problem already was brought before his family and friends, and he still continued for months to repeat the mistake. The point is that this history destroys his credibility at his press conference. Why should people trust Sanfraud now?
His actions ruin his credibility and do not show heightened accountability from the public.
Sanfraud needs to leave God out of his speeches. It looks like he is trying to squander a good name to protect his own. The clergy need all the good name and credibility they can to help minister to those who are in need.
Sanfraud's actions have muddied the waters for everyone.
July 7, 2009 at 7:11 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
mikeinnc (anonymous) says...
What, if any, are the legal ramifications of censure in the state of SC?
Also, to the nincompoops that are found of getting on here and quoting the bible, especially the one that stated that they believe in the "Exodus portion of the bible" please give it a rest. If you want to claim yourself to be such a morally clear and upright Christian citizen, try going back and reading the new testament passages about how Jesus responded to adulterers....I'm pretty sure he didn't follow the "Exodus approach"...so stifle your ridiculous shows of piousness - your religion is a joke if it does not preach compassion, understanding, and lovingkindness. As a pagan heathen, it is ironic that I need to explain that to such a committed Christian as yourself.....
July 7, 2009 at 7:14 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
karmann (anonymous) says...
This just shows weakness on the part of the Republicans to actually take a stand for the "basic core values." I have been greatly dissappointed by the Republican party for the past few years. Sanford needs to resign for what he did, and to show a sincere desire to make things right w/ his wife and kids.
July 7, 2009 at 7:17 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
realamerican (anonymous) says...
That's rich.
A bunch of republican hypocrites censuring another hypocrite for getting caught being a hypocrite.
They aren't mad he cheated on his wife and state, they are mad he got caught!
South Carolina is reaping what they have sown by voting in these republican bums over and over knowing full well all they do is give them lip service and go ahead and do what they want to anyway.
July 7, 2009 at 7:17 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
RuleNumberOne (anonymous) says...
This whole escapade is distasteful, and the Governor has shown extremely poor judgment in elaborating on his indiscretions. From his appearance at the Seahawk event, it indicates that he has rendered himself even more ineffective. His personal business business is his own until he makes it ours, and that's exactly what he has done.We have too many vital issues (JOBS!)to have a governor who is too timid to talk and distracted by a midlife crisis. And I'm weary of people who give the governor a pass by implying that his wife was deficient in her role. I think it was the Governor who was derelict as a husband and father. And his illicit paramour disrespected his family too. THAT's where the real responsibility is.
July 7, 2009 at 7:25 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
1963 (anonymous) says...
So, all this amounts to is that they shook their finger at him.
July 7, 2009 at 7:28 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Tomcatz (anonymous) says...
A censure will mean nothing to this phony, heartless clown. His parents failed, totally, at instilling any type of values in him.
July 7, 2009 at 7:29 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
mb300sl (anonymous) says...
Keep your head low and your mouth shut Mark...
July 7, 2009 at 7:33 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
wjhamilton3 (anonymous) says...
"Dawson asked Sanford to give the party some of his campaign money because the governor's recent actions made it harder on the GOP to raise cash."
Was this appropriate for a Political Party to request money from a disgraced governor in the middle of claiming to judge his actions. Would Sanford be facing demands to resign now if his campaign fund was empty. Who else is lining up to make a request of a slice of this pie and what are they trading for thier "forgiveness."
July 7, 2009 at 7:34 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
wjhamilton3 (anonymous) says...
COLUMBIA A "Resign or Impeach" Citizen's rally will be sponsored by the "Impeach Mark Sanford" Facebook group (5:30pm EST Thursday, July 9, 2009 on the North grounds of the South Carolina State House). With a membership of more than 5, 600 members, the non-partisan "Impeach Mark Sanford" group has been actively calling for Sanford's impeachment for more than 4 months and is now focusing on obtaining his resignation in light of his admission that he was not available to his staff and other elected officials to carry out his official responsibilities as Governor of South Carolina.
July 7, 2009 at 7:35 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
BytheC (anonymous) says...
Oh my Lord, forgive the man, as Jesus would have us do. All these stone throwers do not belong to the same Christian faith that I do.
July 7, 2009 at 7:49 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
AMAZING (anonymous) says...
Why South Carolina's Mark Sanford imagines serial adultery won't end his career.
Sanfraud's tribulation represents another enduring "last straw" on the back of tawdry, rightwing sex-capades. His heartfelt dailliance sets forth new romantic dimensions Republicans must try to bury, shredding whatever remains of the party's "family values" propaganda. His intricate details, irreverent piety and dereliction of duty make up a potent cocktail.
Sanfraud won't resign, thus gifting unmerited high ground to the Democrats. How many times will Bible-belters pardon blasphemers who thumb their noses at God's laws?
Sanfraud achieved in two days nothing less than a party ambush: he dared justify adultery on the alter of love. Not only does Sanford swap love for sex, he invokes piety to cover dereliction of duty, lying to staff, and deceiving his family.
Beyond betraying oaths, Sanfraud offends his faith by trying to be someone else, namely the great international lover. Worse still, he squeezes Christian love with a "soul mate" into wholly secular contexts. By going on like a smitten teenager, Sanford finally invents his own Neverland where obsession over first loves resides.
Sanford's homily about merging souls blasphemously sets up his "love affair" as implicit rival to divine and spousal love. With romance novel cliches about his "forbidden" and "tragic" love story, Sanford transforms being an unfaithful husband into a cross between movie stardom (in his own movie) and a great lover willing to sacrifice all (well, except his governorship). Can you imagine evangelical preachers fuming at this subversion, implying adultery isn't that bad if you're really in love?
Sanfraud especially crosses a spiritual line by drawing freely on Biblical language in ways that should strike evangelicals as obscene. That Sanford likens himself to King David, a misleading and presumptuous parallel with king and prophet, epitomizes arrogant narcissism. When has romantic passion and religious piety ever been so warmly embraced by a pained lover forced to give up soul mate but not office?
The GOP golden boy Sanfraud defying stimulus funds. The ever charming, southern gentleman, his courtly intonations now praise his wondrous lover, touting body, soul, and tan lines. Sanford speaks more glowingly of this soul mate than the wife he pledges to will himself back into love with.
Sanfraud isn't abandoning the governorship just yet, God, he says, wants him to stay put to be humbled.
uh uh uh ...God says ...uh uh uh ...wait let me finish ... uh uh uh
July 7, 2009 at 7:53 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
charles (anonymous) says...
One can forgive the Governor and still call for his resignation. I forgive him for his actions, but I still don't want him as a leader. I'm not suggesting exile, but we don't want dishonorable people in leadership positions. We forgive him, and he gets to return to normal citizenship while someone else gets to take the reins.
Jesus spoke pretty clearly about divorce and adultery. Seems pretty odd that the Sanford's "spirtual counselor" is twice divorced. Is he not therefore an adulterer himself counseling another adulterer?
July 7, 2009 at 8:01 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
awendawg (anonymous) says...
Asking for his resignation is not throwing stones.
And, by the way, there are many, many men who do remain faithful to their wives and are therefore qualified to throw some stones.
Part of the reason there is so much infidelity is that it is no longer a shameful act.
July 7, 2009 at 8:17 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
AMAZING (anonymous) says...
The South Carolina Republican leadership has decided to "censure" folksy sex troll Mark Sanford, essentially letting him get away with his South American fornication forays. They then proclaimed this "sad chapter" closed and called for "a time for healing."
What a bunch of losers. Are they that afraid that the Lt. Governor might be a gay? Well, yeah!
But the bigger loser, despite the fact that he's barely holding on to his job, is Mark Sanford. This guy had the death of a once in a generation American icon, the deaths of numerous other high-profile celebrities, not to mention a freaking serial killer on the loose in his state, perfectly timed to make his pathetic Harlequin romance story disappear from the media radar, and yet he still couldn't shut his pie-hole and make the whole thing just go away quietly.
Congrats South Carolina! You all may not be his "soul mate," but you're the ones shacked up with him, so you guys, ugh, won. By the grace of Jesus, no doubt. Yeehaw!
http://gawker.com/5308935/mark-sanfor...
July 7, 2009 at 8:25 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
AMAZING (anonymous) says...
Maria Belen Chapur
http://www.facebook.com/people/Maria-...
July 7, 2009 at 8:46 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
AMAZING (anonymous) says...
Mark Sanford's very words: "I will be able to die knowing that I had met my soul mate."
In the words of the poet, gag me with a spoon.
Some politicians should be seen and not heard
http://chronicle.augusta.com/stories/...
July 7, 2009 at 8:57 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
ysillyme (anonymous) says...
Last week the Sci-Fi channel did a marathon of "The Twilight Zone" episodes. It gave birth to the concept this is what Gov. and Mrs. Sanford must be feeling. Anyone know if Rod Sterling is still around? Got a plot for him that's a sure winner, but only in the "twilight zone!
July 7, 2009 at 9:16 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
kgoodson (anonymous) says...
An alley cat has more scruples than Sanford. He should just wear a name tag that says "Me First."
July 7, 2009 at 9:49 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
loreann (anonymous) says...
Very disturbing behavior - the GOP who represent US condoning and patting him on the back - when very REALLY what they are condoning is any behavior or choice, ANY, and any manner and means of actions, ANY, that secured and continues to secure the office of Governor.
However that only suggests the GOP in this state is as deceitful and amoral and false representing AND venereal motivated as Mark Sanford was when he DECEITFULLY and UNETHICALLY ran for office - and continued to be - every day of his sorry excuse for an embarassment of a governorship in regard to every day he "served" as our governor.... deceitfully and UNETHICALLY.
The GOP made their bed with Mark Sanford. Incredibly enough. When they should have kicked his venereal infected body to the curb.
Wow. I have NO respect for either of them - Sanford or our GOP left in this state.
None. I DEMAND Sanford resign - if MY GOP won't.
Is THAT clear enough?
July 7, 2009 at 9:55 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
sullivan (anonymous) says...
I find it hard to condemn a man and kick him when he is down , which is sooo the American way of doing things , especially in the cut throat arena of politics.
The Republican party talks about their Core Values as if they are sacred but one of the reasons the Republican party has lost so much ground is because as a party they have strayed so far from their Core Values.
Most of us if we are truly honest find very little difference between Republicans & Democrats and the lack of character and integrity as political history has shown showers an abundance of political leaders at every level of government that abuse their power and betray the public trust.
Ted Kennedy is one of this country's leading statesman and how easily we have forgotten his checkered past and the voters of Mass. have returned him to office for decades to corrupt our nation with his do as I say not as I do philosophy of governing and conduct.
Bill Clinton's chief sin in his scandal was not getting a BJ in the oval office but lieing to the investigators and the American people that wanted to believe in him . What else would he or others like him lie about to protect their ASSets??
Truth be known , we all have a price and to cast stones is hypocritical and negative.
Learn to be better informed regarding the people and party you support and then maybe a third party alternative will have a chance in the pre determined world of politics & Democrat / Republican agenda.
I believe party politics at it's most brutal level is what caused Sarah Palin to take a look at her political career.
July 7, 2009 at 10:20 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
ln1959 (anonymous) says...
Posted by nickl on July 7, 2009 at 3:12 a.m. (Suggest removal)
(What he did had NO impact on the people of SC)
(What my problem is, is with the people that are screaming for Sanford's head on a platter when his actions did not harm them in anyway,) -----------------------------------------------
I know I did not put in all that you said but I wonted to just concentrate on those statements.
You really didn't re-read what you typed before you post. If you truly believe what he did had no impact on the people of SC, then your living in a world of your own.
Just asked the people of SC what effect this man had on there life.
People who are from SC and live in other states are feeling it from others and it started with the refusal of stimulus money.
July 7, 2009 at 10:41 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
wjhamilton3 (anonymous) says...
You're GOP is attempting to negotiate a big payment from Sanford's 1.7 million dollar campaign fund, which they'll launder and distribute to various officials. It is right in the article. Hardly the sort of element which contributes to the clear headed debate of important civic and political issues. Now the GOP is publically committed to ending public discussion of the issue. Later on they get paid by the Governor and pass the gravy out to the candidates who agreed to go along with the plan.
I would think that is somewhat more of a problem than the Governor's family issues. A blood money payment has been requested.
This is the point, like getting on that Airplane to Argentina, where the State GOP and its candidates need to consider what such an act turns them into.
July 7, 2009 at 10:45 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
egotrip (anonymous) says...
I am a black american, and I think Governor sanford is a governor for all people. He is willing to have town hall meetings. I tried to get a conversation with Jim Clyburn on an issue I was concerned about,He thinks he is too important to return your call. I think this is why the people of south carolina are hesitant about him leaving. He stands up for what is right. He makes us all feel like we matter.
July 7, 2009 at 11:08 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
UrGatorbait (anonymous) says...
Whoop de doodle
July 7, 2009 at 11:10 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
AMH7969 (anonymous) says...
Just for the record ... for those who are comparing this situation to Clinton's ... Clinton never left the country not letting anyone know where he was going to be. THAT is what Sanford should be fired for!!!
July 7, 2009 at 11:32 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
tj (anonymous) says...
i like Sanfraud thats hilarious - he crazy i hate the people that make you force em out instead of just leaving peacefully
July 7, 2009 at 11:42 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
yird (anonymous) says...
I had some minor personal contact with Governor Sanford and found him to be as egotrip described him.
His actions, although not passing the litmus test of those with a religiously dictated moral view still fall far short of the behavior of other politicos, and make no mistake about it, the democrats have a sizable numerical lead in this arena of misdeeds.
Barney Franks life style is approved by millions who believe in a Bible that doesn't.
Bill Clinton besides being a liar and aggressive womanizer tried to take half the furnishings of the white house with him when he left office.
Fritz Hollings thought the furnishings of the governor's mansion belonged to him also.
Ted Kennedy left a party on Martha's Vinyard high on whatever he was snorting and/or drinking and drove off a bridge leaving young Mary Jo Kopechne to die a slow agonizing death as she fought to escape from a car slowly filling with water. He saved his own sorry butt though and spent ten hours (sobering up)before he reported the "accident".
Tip O"Neill wasn't called TIP because his name was Thomas P. O'Neill. When he was speaker of the house nothing got past him unless he was "tipped". Everyone knew, none dared say so.
I could go on, because I haven't been living in a vacuum as so many today seem to be doing.
The political experience in general seem to invite unseemly behavior which might be one good reason to consider term limits for all. I'm sure that many of those who entered political life did so with good intentions only to be seduced by power and privilege into losing their "moral compass".
The fact that political campaigns have become popularity contests generating less focus to detail than American Idol doesn't help any either.
Most the people who are so interested in and knowledgeable about our governor know nothing about the man they voted for to be president.
What a sad testimony to the priorities of the electorate.
Get your cute little signs and go protest in Columbia. Maybe that will make you feel like your really doing something.
Then try to figure out why everything you purchase from food to gasoline is going to continue rising in cost at an exponential rate.
Then make yourselves feel real good. Blame Bush!
Imbeciles!
July 7, 2009 at 12:24 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
joldham (anonymous) says...
I love to read these comments... most of them would make for good humor if they weren't so STUPID!!!!!!!
You people that think this is so bad and he should resign really ought to get a reality check. this is nothing compared to others like Bill Clinton... Bill never was sanctioned for what he did and he was the President. He was slapped on the wrist and kept on going. If you people want Sanford gone that's your opinion but at least use valid facts and logic. He has done a good job for most people but you slackers that want everthing given to you are the main ones yelling about how bad he's done. You don't have to pay back all the "feebies" we're getting today from the Democrats but the future generations will sure know about it.
Keep on going Sanford, you're doing a good job!!! Fight them to the end!!!!
July 7, 2009 at 12:29 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Sandy37 (anonymous) says...
Wow and these people on this board are showing the GRACE of SC?? You elected Sanford for 4 years, you have Sanford for 4 years. You all also elected Andre Bauer and Thomas Ravenel in the same election. If you have to live with it until 2010 maybe doing a little research into your candidates will be the order of the day. I am not saying that any of those candidates are really really bad I just think they are sloppy with power and felt that they were so loved they could do anything they wanted and never have to answer for it. They are all near the same age, nice looking, rich and talk intelligently. Maybe that is the problem, you need to be as smart as they are. I think it would be nice if everyone just called for an election to replace Sanford, not just moving up to the next person, but a new election.
July 7, 2009 at 12:48 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
1254343 (anonymous) says...
You wonder why South Carolina is just about dead last in every metric?
July 7, 2009 at 1:12 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
yird (anonymous) says...
Sandy37 Very sound ideas which if applied to the most recent presidential race could have prevented the country having a Marxist puppet in the white house.
July 7, 2009 at 1:13 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
yird (anonymous) says...
Posted by 1254343 on July 7, 2009 at 1:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)
You wonder why South Carolina is just about dead last in every metric?
==========================
I sure do. Being very familiar with the "metric system" and the use of the word metrics as it applies to writing in verses and so on, I'm lost as you have moved it to a new dimension.
Please help this uneducated SC redneck understand.
Thanks.
July 7, 2009 at 1:26 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
furmangirl1998 (anonymous) says...
Yeah, Sanford, KEEP GOING. Maybe by the time you FINALLY leave, South Carolina will rank in the bottom 50 in all listings for the USA: education, unemployment, spousal abuse, crime, obesity, health care, new businesses, etc. etc. etc.
You go ahead and keep thinking The Love God is all that as you described, he is one of the reasons this state is always portrayed in a very negative manner: ignorant and backward. If he tried to do as much for this state as he did to further his OWN agenda and fuss and fight with everyone he encounters, I would faint.
joldham, I think you have found your soul mate.
July 7, 2009 at 1:34 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
horizonis (anonymous) says...
All Hail the Honorable Minister Louis Farrakhan,
I am so glad that the convener of the Million Man March is faithful to his wife and family.
The problem with the conservatives is hypocrisy.
The fundamental problem of white supremacy is hyprocrisy.
If this so-called man does not resign from public office, then all you hypocritical south carolina racists SUCK.
July 7, 2009 at 1:45 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
fred_durst1 (anonymous) says...
yird - a metric is a measure for quantitatively assessing, some measureable quantity.
Metrics very often reside on boring corporate Power Point presentations. Metrics might be things like orders received this month, employee turn over etc.
July 7, 2009 at 1:55 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
yird (anonymous) says...
fred_durst1 Thanks for the clarification. Having been to only a few Power Point presentations, all "boring", I really never considered the use of the word metrics in that fashion.
I'll add that to my vocabulary which at times I feel is diminishing as I grow older.
July 7, 2009 at 2:13 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Chopper_Harris (anonymous) says...
Resignation may be the best option, but if he doesn't step down there won't be much difference. His continual pissing contests with the legislature were worth a few jollies every year, but Sanford got very little done before and he'll likely get less done now. But, if he can manage to keep his mouth shut about dancing and crossing lines, redouble his efforts as Gov., and can make a semi-success of his last 18 months, then so be it. Though if he's going to take that route, he needs to quit portraying it as in his best interests and start proving it's in the state's best interests. And it likely is in the state's best interest not to have Bauer as Governor.
July 7, 2009 at 3:01 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
jjoanie11 (anonymous) says...
All you little gods need to make sure your own house is clean before you take a broom to some one else's. When you make no mistakes, no bad judgement calls and have no regrets, then, you have a right to an opinion.
July 7, 2009 at 3:50 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
loreann (anonymous) says...
Sanford CHOSE to masquerade as a Christian, monogomous family man. Called out to others and demanded they resign when he was standing around with his pants down - just like them. Chose to LIE to the entire state in order to steal an election fron an honorably running opponent. And you think WE, the peoople, who were directly lied to by scandulous, corrupt as the day is long, venereally imfected Sanford cannot DEMAND HE RESIGN?
And we cannot demand accountability from him - in the form of DEMANDING he resign from this office? How come? We employ him. We who he is supposed to be "serving" and answering to all of us - in an ethical, honest and integrity based manner - when he has yet to serve on day representing us being any of that?
He is a sham artist. He is a joke. He is not who the people elected. He never has been.
July 7, 2009 at 3:50 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Sandy37 (anonymous) says...
Yird, please do not call names of people who had nothing to do with this. Marxism has been dead for 70 years. Sanford should stay as Governor until there is a new election in 2010. This whole administration seems to be very tainted. Obviously these things have been going on for a long time and until the stimulus money arrived and many wanted to have a hand in directing it, did this all come out. Greed makes a fools of all.
July 7, 2009 at 3:59 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
yird (anonymous) says...
Sandy37 your right on about greed making fools of all.
Your dead wrong about Marxism.
Marx may be dead but his ideology is very much alive. If you can't see that then there is little point in discussing it with you further.
July 7, 2009 at 4:06 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
EleanorSargentTucker (anonymous) says...
Lloyd -
10 may outnumber 9, but 19 does not equal 22. What, exactly, did the other 3 vote?
"Twenty-two members of the committee voted on the formal reprimand of Sanford. Ten voted to ask him to resign, while nine voted to support the governor."
July 7, 2009 at 4:13 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Mon_Kie (anonymous) says...
I wish we had the names of the 22 Republicans on the committee.
I really would like to share my thoughts with them.
July 7, 2009 at 4:19 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
TerryWalker (anonymous) says...
First, let's clear up one area of confusion, for which I blame Newt Gingrich & Co. Clinton was NOT impeached for his dalliance with an intern. He was impeached for lying under oath, and obstructing justice. He was not convicted only because the Dems in the Senate threw principle out the window and stood with him. (That is a real contrast to the principled Republicans in the Nixon hearings.) He did lose his law license because of it, remember. Gingrich and Co. were so eager to destroy Clinton that they confused the issue, and to this day, most people seem to believe Clinton was impeached because of his sexual peccadillos.
It really does not make any difference whether Gov. Sanford resigns or not. From what I can see, he has been a very ineffective governor, and probably for the last couple of years, irrelevant, due to his inability to get along with the legislature. He seems to have a political tin ear. He has managed to make enemies not only in the Republican legislature, but also among a lot of prominent citizens, by, for example, firing members of various boards throughout the state. For no reason. It did not advance his agenda.
Gov. Sanford had (has) some ideas that would benefit the state. (Other ideas, such as selling off Santee Cooper, are crackpot). But, had he tried to work with a Republican-controlled legislature instead of politically grandstanding and publicly criticizing legislators not only as a group, but some by name, some of these good ideas might well have made it through.
That being said, it does not make any difference whether he resigns, as far as the state's day-to-day affairs are concerned-- because of the diffusion of power in our government. Much of the state government more or less runs itself without the active daily intervention of the governor, so if he stays, we probably won't notice much difference.
July 7, 2009 at 4:31 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
nickl (anonymous) says...
ln1959,
Seriously? What did his affair harm YOUR life? As a citizen of SC I felt no chagne to my life because he had an affair. I don't condone what he did. He was wrong and should resign. But I don't beleive in all of the outlash he is getting by people that would not ridicule others of the Democratic party for the same actions. And refusing the stimulus money was the smartest thing any Governor of any state has done. Explain to me how you can pull out of a recession by spending MORE money. That's like saying your credit card is over it's limit....OK just get another one. It INCREASES debt. What people don't see that the stimulous bill INCREASES our national debt, not decreases. But the article isn't about that. He should resign on the basis of he went against his own stated morals and one of the core principals of leadership is honor.
furmangirl1998---REALLY? BOTTOM 50? There are only 50 states! So of course we are in the bottom 50. We are also in the top 50. You were probably one of the ones that voted for his opponenet during his first campaign that said our education level was 51st in the nation. thin kabout what you are asying before you post it for everyone to read.
July 7, 2009 at 5:32 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
charlestonnative1963 (anonymous) says...
Sanford must GO...left office without notification to next in command...lied RESIGN TODAY
July 7, 2009 at 6:47 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
nickl (anonymous) says...
charlestonnative, you should change your name to charlestonnaive. You have fallen in suite with all of the other idiots that insist that he LIED. No he didn't. He never said at all where he was going. As I've said before, his actions where wrong, but he has not lied.
July 7, 2009 at 7:02 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
TerryWalker (anonymous) says...
horizonis--
In your post, you somehow overlooked your potential universe of people.
You state: "If this so-called man does not resign from public office, then all you hypocritical south carolina racists SUCK."
What about the South Carolina racists who are not hypocritical? Did you mean to leave them out? And how about those in South Carolina who are hypocritical, but are not racists. Were they just overlooked, or did you mean to leave them out too?
Oh, and by the way: the names of states are capitalized in the English language, as used in the United States.
July 7, 2009 at 8:52 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
AMAZING (anonymous) says...
Flip-flopping runs in the Sanfraud family
Why She's Fighting For Her Man
..."S.C. First Lady Jenny Sanford was leading the fight to keep her embattled husband, Gov. Mark Sanford, from being run out of town on a rail in the wake of his admitted affair with Argentine lover Maria Belen Chapur."
"We asserted at the time that Mrs. Sanford had initiated several private conversations with lawmakers and other opinion leaders in South Carolina, urging them to refrain from calling on her husband to resign."
FULL STORY:
http://www.fitsnews.com/2009/07/07/wh...
July 7, 2009 at 9:27 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Maverick (anonymous) says...
WOW! Isn't that kind of harsh?
July 7, 2009 at 9:51 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
SCBeachMomma (anonymous) says...
Marxism isn't dead. Obama is a Marxist.
July 7, 2009 at 11:53 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
GreenvilleGirl (anonymous) says...
I am a native South Carolinian. While I've never held a political office, I have spent countless hours trying to better our state, from grass roots efforts in the upstate, to Columbia and to the low country.
A committee comprised of banking professionals (men/women) traveled to Columbia to meet with our "illustrous" judiciary committee. Our apolitical groups were trying to educate our lawmakers by explaining how consumers needed protection from unscrupulous mortgage brokers and scam artists, I came away with nothing but disgust at most of the legislators I met....as well as a sense that a fair share of the men were only out for the free food, booze and women.
The female members of our group, who traveled from all over the state, thought our esteemed "gentlemen" were nothing but sleazy rednecks. Even the male members of our group noticed the body language of some of these guys......I think "scum sucking bottom dwellers" was the consensus at the closed executive committee meeting the next morning.
It's no wonder nothing in Columbia is ever accomplished. It's much like D.C.: eat, drink, party, women. Repeat.
When you have some time, go to the legislative pages (sc.gov) and look at the amount of time is spent by male elected officials proposing and passing edicts to recognize the beauty queens (a/k/a winners of "scholarship pageants") rather than concentrate on the real business at hand. It's always the same people, running with the same crowd.....doing nothing but spending taxpayers' money.
Maybe their success is measured by where their hands REALLY end up, whether they're on a woman's breast, thigh or rear.
My point is --- Sanford is not alone....there are plenty of other Republicans, Democrats and Independents in SC politics (and beyond) who are persecuting Sanford, when they are guilty of the same acts.....
It is time to clean house.......oops! maybe I should say sweep THE House clean, as well as the Senate.
While he'll never accomplish it now, I have to support Sanford's attempt to re-write SC's constitution in order to produce a leaner, more productive form of government. What we are currently forced to accept is no acceptable. We need less government, more efficient government, more accountability, a line item veto, and many other things which are to numerous to note.
Wake up people! Or you may wake up one morning living in the 21st century version Socialism.....across the board.....and it will be too late.
July 8, 2009 at 12:11 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
furmangirl1998 (anonymous) says...
nikl: I understand very well the material that I posted earlier. I think that YOU are having comprehension issues.
And for the record, I did not vote against the Love God. And I stand by my earlier statement, he has done NOTHING for the state of SC other than to try and advance his own agenda.
OH no, you are kidding, there are ONLY 50 states???? NOT 51??? I am so heartbroken to learn this. Darn, I am TOO upset now.
July 8, 2009 at 12:14 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
furmangirl1998 (anonymous) says...
PS Glad to have your Christian witnessing in the earlier post, it is similar to Sanford and his Biblical comparisons. Birds of a feather...
July 8, 2009 at 12:17 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
nickl (anonymous) says...
So furmangirl. You are saying that it is wrong to be Christian? Or just to have the values as taught in the Bible. If you really did read my previous posts then you would know that I do not approve of the Governors actions and have said he should do the honorable thing and resign. That is as a Christian. But until this point I belive he did a good job for our state. If you don't so be it. Everybody has a right to their own opinions. My comment to you was based on your comment that we are in the bottom 50. If you had said bottom 50% that would have made more sense. But saying the bottom 50 is ridiculous when there are only 50 to begin with. And of course he has tried to advance his agenda. That is what he was elected for. Americans at the Constitutional Convention realized that a direct democracy would never work, therefore they chose to adopt a representative democracy in which citizens elected it's representatives who made decisions based on what they beleived to be in the best intrests of their constitutents. I have agreed with most of Gov Sanfords political decisions while I cannot say the same for his personal ones.
July 8, 2009 at 12:35 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Sandy37 (anonymous) says...
Yird I was not talking about Marx, I said Marxism is dead. There are lots of handles we can put on people who do not believe the same as you. As far Obama, would you really like to have prolonged the Republican polices after what has come out. Every state is having problems because the tax base no longer exists and all the industries have gone overseas. This was not Obama's doing. This started with Globalization. Which I hate, but it is a corporate thing.
July 8, 2009 at 2:16 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
TerryWalker (anonymous) says...
Greeneville Girl--
We already have a line item veto.
July 8, 2009 at 12:23 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
yird (anonymous) says...
Sandy37 Obama is a Marxist. What you call "Republican policies" are the policies that can only be implemented with congressional approval save those instituted by executive order. The Dems have controlled the congress for the last two and a half years.
Few in either party have the interest of the general population at heart.
Globalization, nurtured by corporate and political insiders uses the ideology of socialism/Marxism as a vehicle to achieve their goals and Obama is the puppet that is paraded before us to facilitate their agenda.
Eventually we will be a "workers paradise" peopled by the highly regulated great unwashed who through their labors will provide the means for the elite to live above and beyond those with whom they really do not want to have any real contact.
A populace that is working six or seven days a week to make ends meet, has had their personal firearms confiscated by the government leaving them no means to resist that government's oppression, and is dependent on the government for employment and rudimentary health care, has scant ability to improve their lot and will be reduced to devoting all their energy just to survive.
It's happened in other countries but most Americans have been lulled into thinking it couldn't happen here!
It's happening, slowly but surely, and if we don't clean house and get some honest people in both houses of congress it will continue until our republic ends up just another failed experiment in mans quest for a society free from oppression.
July 8, 2009 at 1:34 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
gringolandia (anonymous) says...
@ poster yird: you sound very paranoid my friend. Maybe the USA is not the place for you. Maybe you would be better off in my home country of Mexico. Based on the posts I have read it sounds like you hate your country (assuming you are a US citizen).
July 8, 2009 at 7:01 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
BlackReign (anonymous) says...
Posted by gringolandia on "@ poster yird: you sound very paranoid my friend.'
No, he just sees the truth and wears no blinders. The tide is turning, the American people see that they have been sold a lie - Obama, and he is going to start having problems forcing his will on congress.
2010 coming up!
Byrd Blasts 'Cap and Trade'
Senior W.Va. senator stands firmly behind coal
"I cannot support the House bill in its present form," Byrd said in a statement. "I continue to believe that clean coal can be a 'green' energy. Those of us who understand coal's great potential in our quest for energy independence must continue to work diligently in shaping a climate bill that will ensure access to affordable energy for West Virginians. I remain bullish about the future of coal, and am so very proud of the miners who labor and toil in the coalfields of West Virginia."
http://www.news-register.net/page/con...
With that said, Sanford should follow his own advice as a congressman when it came to Prez clinton - RESIGN!
July 8, 2009 at 7:40 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
BlackReign (anonymous) says...
hey yird, could gringolandia, be are little troll getserious, back again...?
July 8, 2009 at 7:43 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
BlackReign (anonymous) says...
The Rasmussen Reports daily Presidential Tracking Poll for Wednesday shows that 32% of the nation's voters now Strongly Approve of the way that Barack Obama is performing his role as President. Thirty-seven percent (37%) Strongly Disapprove giving Obama a Presidential Approval Index rating of 5.
The number who strongly disapprove inched up another point to the highest level measured to date and the overall Approval Index is at the lowest level yet for Obama.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/publi...
Gallup Daily: Obama Job Approval
http://www.gallup.com/poll/113980/Gal...
July 8, 2009 at 7:54 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
nickl (anonymous) says...
BlackReign,
What is most impressive about Obama's low approval ratings is that Pres Bush's APPROVAL ratings were in the 80's precential range at this point in his first term.....
July 9, 2009 at 1:30 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
horizonis (anonymous) says...
Dear Terry Walker,
Your last point about the capitalization of South Carolina is correct. However, your real point seems to be that I'm stupid, because I made a grammatical mistake. That fits with a stereotype that whites have of Blacks of being unintelligent. Looks and sounds like you have some racism in your thinking.
Anyway, I didn't miss anyone in my use of the term "hypocritical white racists". I said the problem with conservatives is hypocrisy. I'll defend that. American conservatives try to defend what they call traditional values by putting an air of virtue on treating humans unequally and inhumanely.
Another reason I refer to the white people that defend Mark Sanford as hypocrites is that if Min. Louis Farrakhan did anything like this, and then simply put I'm sure they'd denounce him.
In closing, let me say that I can't promise you that I won't make another typo. I write in my spare time, quickly, sometimes at night, and I'm only human. Moreover, and let me be honest, I can't say that I'm free from every form of what some might call sexual immorality. (That's another Black stereotype.) But I can say this. Mark Sanford has shown a startling and rogue type of misjudgment and a disdain for family life and for his position as a role model.
Terry Walker ultimately my comments aren't really directed to white people. Your opening statement alludes to the support my ideas might get from other "non-hypocritical" people. That's nice. I've heard that when the Hebrews left Africa some of the Egyptians came with them. What's important to me is that Black people understand that the people that run this country are morally bankrupt and that we stop being desirous of integrating and stop idealizing whites and white values. You're people aren't better than us. Mark Sanford has shown no more respect for his wife and family, then any poor Negro in the ghetto who has run off to get his jollies. I want my people to realize that. And then I want them to see how we're condemned for this behavior, but Mark Sanford sits in the State House.
If you care to join me join knowing that I can't water down the truth for your sake. That's playing politics. I'm smart enough to do it, but to dumb to believe it'll work. I'll stick with calling a spade a spade and Mark Sanford is a disgrace.
Sincerely,
Maurice X
July 9, 2009 at 2:39 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
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