Hutto may challenge DeMint

moonpie (anonymous) says...

Run against Lindsey Grahmnesta and I would vote for you but not against Jim DeMint.

July 1, 2009 at 6:55 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

jgregoryj (anonymous) says...

Maybe the voters of our state have learned that the people of SC have not been well served by ideologues such DeMint and Sanford who are more interested in making philosophical points than helping the people of our state feed their families and educate their children.

I am personally excited that State Sen. Brad Hutto is considering against Sen. DeMint. I believe Brad Hutto would be a vast improvement over what we have now.

July 1, 2009 at 8:40 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Rggr (anonymous) says...

"Maybe the voters of our state have learned that the people of SC have not been well served by ideologues such DeMint and Sanford who are more interested in making philosophical points than helping the people of our state feed their families and educate their children." - jgregoryj

You wishing they would so something else isn't a philosophical point? They are doing what they think is the best for the state. The philosophy may be different from yours, but your perspective is no less philosophical.

July 1, 2009 at 9 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

eyeinthesky (anonymous) says...

This is no real challenge!.... unless DeMint left the country.

July 1, 2009 at 9:01 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

nopartisan_noproblem (anonymous) says...

It's so funny how people bash the few representatives we have that stand behind their fiscal "ideology". They believe in acting responsible and not taking in more debt, standing up against the completely oversized federal government, and try to bring back state rights. Other people just see a quick fix to "feed their families and educate their children."

I'm sorry but those of you who think money is gonna make our children smarter, are sadly mistaken. Parenting and personal drive from the children are going to make them smarter. Parents being held accountable. The demise of the welfare and entitlement state will force these children to understand that if they dont do good in school and excel then they won't get s%!t in life. Education was a survival tool that has been replaced by the taxpayer dependence.

July 1, 2009 at 9:21 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Carolina_Politics (anonymous) says...

jgregoryj, it's not DeMint's job nor that of any other politician to feed your children and educate them. That's your job, so get off your lazy behind and do it and quit expecting everyone else to be responsible for you.

July 1, 2009 at 9:56 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

mb300sl (anonymous) says...

Sen. Hutto needs to stay in Orangeburg...he's not ready to run with the big dogs.

July 1, 2009 at 10:23 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

nopartisan_noproblem (anonymous) says...

Loki, the bible has nothing to do with me wanting to keep the fruits of my labor, and not taking care of everybody else and their kids. Get some pride, and get a job.

July 1, 2009 at 10:37 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

ruserious (anonymous) says...

nopartisan_noproblem, well sad sir, or madam!

July 1, 2009 at 11:11 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

tc1 (anonymous) says...

"PLEASE PEOPLE THINK FOR YOURSELVES! DOGMA HAS NO PLACE IN THE VOTING!"

This! From you!

After recovering from stunned awe I will be LMAO.

July 1, 2009 at 11:57 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

nopartisan_noproblem (anonymous) says...

Again Loki, I am called a christian because I don't want to take care of everyone that doesn't take care of themselselves while still struggling to take care of myself. Lose the insults, add the logic and spare me your partisan claims. I am not on the side you are bashing, because I have not sided whatsoever. Free-thinking is key to a democracy. Siding with a party regardless of their beliefs enslaves thoughts and opinions.

July 1, 2009 at 12:06 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

ChasMagnolia (anonymous) says...

oh yessss, Boss Hog sticks AGAIN!!!

July 1, 2009 at 12:10 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

outrage (anonymous) says...

Demint is one of the few Senators in the country that should keep his job! WAKE UP!

FAIRTAX

July 1, 2009 at 12:26 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Rggr (anonymous) says...

I'm elite and above all of you and will go along with the rest of the free thinkers that want government to do things for them...You backwards people want to stand on your own without taxpayer dollars.

July 1, 2009 at 12:26 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

stanish (anonymous) says...

Posted by tc1 on July 1, 2009 at 11:57 a.m. (Suggest removal)

"PLEASE PEOPLE THINK FOR YOURSELVES! DOGMA HAS NO PLACE IN THE VOTING!"

That is the problem! The majority of voters in this state can't THINK for themselves! Their mentality is to vote for anyone or anything that has an R behind their name. They listen to the Unfair and Unbalance FAUX News channel, and they let the racists like Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity do their THINKING for them! They are so stuck on STUPIDITY that anyone comes along proclaiming the bible and "conservatism" automatically gets their vote. They still SUPPORT Sanfraud even though he has subjected this state to ridicule and a JOKE to the nation and the world. They complain that they don't want Bauer, but yet they voted and re-elected him into office knowing his horrendous record and contempt for the law! They support McMaster, again he subjects the state to ridicule by trying to PROSECUTE Craig's List! His only ACCOMPLISHMENT as Atty. Gen. Jim Demint(like Sanfraud) has done absolutely NOTHING for this state! There are those who says he's for state rights, what about JOBS for this state? If he has done so much for S.C., why are we always in the TOP three when it comes to Unemployment? Why are we always at the near bottom in education compared to the other 49 states? Why hasn't he used his influence to help locate Major Corporations and businesses to this state? Jim Demint does NOT represent the mainstream voters in this state! The constituency he represents are the Un-christian Coalition, the Immoral Majority, the so called Religious Right! He does NOT represent the hard working, able bodied, decent citizens in the state of S.C. He's an EMBARRASSMENT right along with Mark Sanfraud, Andre Bauer, Henry McMaster and others who subjects S.C. to ridicule, as being backwards, uneducated, and as a JOKE to america and the world! Get use to it S.C., until we elect competent and RESPECTABLE leaders from both parties, we will always be considered the JOKE of america!

July 1, 2009 at 12:52 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

statusquo (anonymous) says...

no partisan-no problem- You are very partisan your and ideological approach to government is exactly the problem with the legislators misrepresenting the people of SC. No politician should have a lifetime appointment but people like you have been hoodwinked into believing the circus going on in Columbia is in the interest of the people of SC and more importantly yourself. If you really only knew. Jim DeMint will be defeated. These people mock you everyday but you can't see pass the rhetoric and old fashioned southern politics "a good ole boy must be a good ole boy, he is one of us". You have no idea. People I implore you to vote but know who and what you are voting for.

July 1, 2009 at 1:11 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

nopartisan_noproblem (anonymous) says...

My self-sufficient ideology is the problem. I believe everybody should be responsible for taking care of themselves, that is a horrible way to look at things? I dont follow statusquo. Because I believe that the mistakes I make in life or whatever situation may fall upon me, it is my responsibility to persevere through them. I don't look to others that don't even know me to better my situation while trying to better theirs. That is a bad way to look at things?

Please explain to me statusquo or anyone. Tell me why I should take care of others (who don't take care of themselves) while struggling to take care of myself? Put away the insults and partisan claims and simply answer that question.

July 1, 2009 at 1:33 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

nopartisan_noproblem (anonymous) says...

I disagree. If I choose to only take care of myself, I should be able to make that choice. There are people out there that even if we didn't pay taxes to take care of the sick, poor, and disabled, they would help take care of them.

You are talking about charity loki. And if you are forced to pay charity, is it really charity? Wouldn't you rather have people help you that want to help you, as opposed to people that don't want to and are forced to?

Your idea of human responsibility is to take care of them, and that is a good thing, I commend you on that, and thank god there are people out there that want to help. But, my idea is to make sure I can take of my family and I first. If I choose to help others afterwards, that is my full and willing choice.

July 1, 2009 at 1:53 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

nopartisan_noproblem (anonymous) says...

Koo-koo, Koo-koo

July 1, 2009 at 2:21 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

guidedbystewart (anonymous) says...

nopartisan,
You are very self absorbed and because of this you really fail to see the big picture. I am not for giving hand outs, but I am very much for giving ALL AMERICANS the ability to become upwardly mobile through a quality education and many of the services the governemnt has provided. I would love to debate with you on how the lasses faire model (can you say libertarian) of government was detrimental to the country (all you have to do is look at our nation at the turn of the last century), on how many government programs built a middle class in this country, therefore increasing the overall wealth of this country. BUT, with your "all about me right now" attitude it would probably be a waste of time!

July 1, 2009 at 2:46 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Luna (anonymous) says...

Nopartisan: I see that your "I got mine" attitude is not the norm, and I am very thankful for that. I can at least rest easy at night know there are some people in this world that still believe in the milk of human kindness.

July 1, 2009 at 2:56 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

nopartisan_noproblem (anonymous) says...

And you don't think the fact that we have eliminated the incentive for necessary drive and success has been detrimental to this country. You don't think these things are contributing to our gargantuan debt, yet we still continue to spend spend spend.

What you're not understanding is that if you choose to give your time, taxes to help others. That's great, commendable. But do you honestly think that people should be forced to? That is financial slavery. There is no such thing as mandatory charity. Charity is helping people become upwardly mobile and getting through hard times. I will ask again. Is it charity if you are forced to give?

And everybody stop calling them government programs. The government doesn't pay for them, the taxpayers do.

If we continue to give to people that have failed, made mistakes, choose to not better themselves, where is the incentive to ever do better?

If I ask you "Look, you can either get up, go to work, and bust your behind everyday to feed and house your family or don't and we'll take care of you" What would you choose?

July 1, 2009 at 2:58 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Luna (anonymous) says...

How about a child that is born with a disability?

July 1, 2009 at 3:01 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

nopartisan_noproblem (anonymous) says...

As a stated earlier Luna. There are people that are willing and going to help this child. If you ,guidedby, and loki are all on the opposite end of this debate, then that is 3 out of 4 people that are willing to help this disabled child, under the assumption that you all think I wouldn't.

I know a few of you are looking at me as cold-blooded and heartless, but you are not understanding my view on this. I am not the evil selfish person you all are viewing me as.

A very simple way to put it is. Let's say you are going into a store and a homeless dude is by the door. If he asks you for a dollar you will probably have no problem giving it to him if you feel he needs it. On the other hand, let's say he walks up and says "you better give me a dollar, cuz I need it more than you do", I'm almost 100% you're gonna keep walking and probably say some nasty things to him. The government is like a representative for the homeless guy.

But we are not just talking about the homeless and people with disabilities here. What about all of the welfare money going to these 20-somethings with three kids. Do you all think that's okay? How do you feel when you are in the store with coupons and comparing products for which has more for less money, and you see someone else putting all of the things you wish you had the money for on the register and then pulling out their cash for their cigarettes and beer? What about the people living in section 8 housing that have people sitting on their front porch selling drugs. Should we supoort them to? Should we support the unemployed that instead of taking a little lower paying job to support themselves, they sit around and wait till they find a job making exactly what they were making before, while making what we earn less by doing so, solely because the government lets them?

I know many will say well they're not all like that, and that is my point. If we all got our money first and then decided who we wanted to help, the people that are abusing the system wouldn't get a chance to. The people that really needed it would benefit more and if you felt like they were taking advantage of you, you could help someone else.

July 1, 2009 at 3:28 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

guidedbystewart (anonymous) says...

Yet, the thing is it is not charity but investments!

And is also there are people that have taken the help of the government, invested in themselves through hard work, and have paid these investments back ten fold.

Again I am not for hand outs but giving people the opportunity to get educated and bettering themselves. There is this flawed assumption that all liberals want to do is give out hand out to the poor, but this is not true. Yet, MOST PEOPLE, are not born with a silver spoon in their mouth. Some of these are even hard working educated professional YET is has become the point in this country that even these people can not afford our healthcare system, or afford to send their children to College. As a country, if we do not take care of our own, and make these investments into our society, AS A WHOLE, we will be much less wealthier of a nation, and mark my words, countries that have invested in education will pass us by and become wealthier!

July 1, 2009 at 3:33 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

nopartisan_noproblem (anonymous) says...

Investments are also optional, they are not forced guidedby. I was not born with a silver spoon in my mouth either, but I have become self-sufficient entirely on my own. What is this idea that others born in my same situation cannot? I have paid the same ten-fold back in without others forced "investments".

Everyone has the chance to get educated and better themselves without additional funds. You're right countries that have invested in education may pass us. Those are also that countries that have a model family structure with parental and social consequences if a child does not succeed in school. Those societies still hold personal success in the highest while we say "if you can make it, cool, if you dont we'll take care of ya". When many of these children see their parents being completely depended on the government(taxpayers), do you think they will change. We must force the parents to be responsible for themselves if we ever expect the children to.

July 1, 2009 at 3:58 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

singleroni (anonymous) says...

HUTTO WHO? Demint hands down. vote out lindsey!!!!!!!!!!

July 1, 2009 at 4:03 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

guidedbystewart (anonymous) says...

"We must force the parents to be responsible for themselves if we ever expect the children to."

I agree with this, but also, it is just as bad if we did a 360 and not investment in our country! This would be like cutting our nose off despite our face just because we have a few that abuses the system.

Yet, I do agree us as a society needs to get tough on the few that do mooch of the system (government, taxpayers).

July 1, 2009 at 4:12 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

guidedbystewart (anonymous) says...

off the system.

July 1, 2009 at 4:15 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

stanish (anonymous) says...

While I'm not a Graham supporter, I will say that Sen. Graham will reach across the aisle and work for the best interest of the people. Sen. Graham has shown that he is bi-partisan and sometimes compromising is what it takes to move an agenda forward which will benefit the people. Jim Demint is proud to proclaim he is Senator "NO" whether it's in the best interest of his constituents or not! As I stated earlier in my post, he does NOT represent the mainstream voter in his state. I've already stated who he represents and who his constituents are.

July 1, 2009 at 4:15 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

nopartisan_noproblem (anonymous) says...

Far, far more than a few. And you don't think by the ability for people to do the minimal and still receive assistance, this only intrigues them to continue the same way?

July 1, 2009 at 4:24 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

guidedbystewart (anonymous) says...

"Far, far more than a few. And you don't think by the ability for people to do the minimal and still receive assistance, this only intrigues them to continue the same way?"

I feel that is far less than you perceive:. I feel that most want to work yet, also we have many poor that do allot of work and receive little to nothing and this creates a dilemma on its own. I am not saying that mooching off the government is the answer either though:but sometimes doing the right thing is not an attractive proposition (not judging just stating the obvious), besides why do you think people start selling drugs

July 1, 2009 at 4:37 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )