Woman wants to change Congress
West Ashley resident hopes to enroll 40 million people for her group
By Robert Behre
Several years ago, after getting fed up with rising property taxes for Berkeley County's schools, Catherine Welborn got politically active, formed a nonprofit group called Citizens for Reasonable Taxation and began working to change the political makeup of the county's School Board, ultimately helping three new members win seats.
Today, Welborn is wading back into political waters, but instead of placing candidates' signs in her front yard, she is using the Internet.
Catherine Welborn checks her Web presence for Change the Congress in 2010 last week as her husband, Paul, watches. She hopes members will identify 'keeper' congressmen and learn more about the issues.
And instead of focusing on local officials, she's targeting the U.S. Congress.
Welborn, who moved to West Ashley shortly after her husband, Paul, lost a 2007 Berkeley County Council race, began signing up others in her Change the Congress in 2010 effort.
The group already is registered with the Federal Election Commission. Since its launch on July 21, she has signed up more than 6,000 members, and Welborn hopes to double her numbers each week until she hits her incredibly ambitious goal of 40 million.
Welborn said her effort is not affiliated with a political party or built around a single issue or interest group. She acknowledges that her motivation is similar to that of many Tea Party protesters: a need to voice concern about the rising debt from the stimulus bill as well as health care reform and the pending cap and trade energy bill.
"We want our country to be fiscally responsible, just like we have to be," she said. "I admire (U.S. Sen.) Jim DeMint (R-S.C.) because he doesn't do earmarks. I believe earmarks are corrupt."
Aside from signing up 40 million members, though, Welborn's goals are less clear. She said she hopes members can identify good senators and representatives (she calls them "keepers") and learn more about the issues. She also hopes her effort will snowball with media attention and even generate enough money for some paid political advertising.
College of Charleston political science professor Lynne Ford said the last thing she would want to do is criticize anyone for trying to get more involved in their government -- "That's a fantastically good thing" -- but she questions if Welborn's effort will bear fruit.
"You have to give people a task. They're not just going to hear a rallying cry and take to the streets," she said.
"People are busy. They don't care much for politics."
Ford notes that President Barack Obama successfully used the Internet to raise money and to urge people to attend campaign meetings. His campaign also used the Web to collect supporters' contact information and send them regular updates.
"You have to be somewhat aware of what motivates people and what the Internet can do and cannot do," Ford said. "It's a tool, like a hammer or screwdriver."
Welborn, who estimates she spends more than 50 hours a week on her effort, said her members are aware and active. Some of them even have plowed through the 1,000-plus pages of the Congressional health care reform bill. She knows they ultimately will make or break the effort. "It's not about me," she said. "I only have one vote."
Despite help from her husband, Paul, who works as a business consultant, she is having technical difficulties communicating online with her members.
Ford notes it's difficult to change Congress, even when its public approval rating sinks to new lows.
"While people might have tremendous anger for Congress as an institution, they like their own member," she said.
And Ford expects both the Tea Parties and efforts like Welborn's to fade as Congress gets back down to business this fall.
"August is just a crazy month. Congress is out. Members are out in their communities. People aren't back in a routine yet. They've got time on their hands," she said. "The good news in all of this is that it's dawning on people that elections have consequences. You cast your vote, and the people who win get to set the course."
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realamerican (anonymous) says...
"You cast your vote, and the people who win get to set the course."
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Yes after 8 years of the worst President our country has ever had repairing the damage will take more than a few months. It will take time to repair our country from the "course" set by Bush and his criminal administration.
If this woman thinks DuhMint is da man she is just another fruit loopy wingnut idiot who needs to have her head examined.
August 31, 2009 at 5:59 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
KidYendor (anonymous) says...
We just need to clean out the House and Senate every few terms and not have lifelong handout Congress people. Kennedy is gone, now we have to get rid of Pelosi and Frank.
August 31, 2009 at 6:41 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
ColdBud (anonymous) says...
realamerican (anonymous) says... "Yes after 8 years of the worst President our country has ever had..."
I know it may seem like 8 years with all of the money us middle class are forking out to support freeloaders, but it's been less than one year.
August 31, 2009 at 6:49 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
scottmcx (anonymous) says...
Real..
You clearly don't remember Jimmy Pea-nuts!
August 31, 2009 at 7:09 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
joldham (anonymous) says...
WE NED TO BE AWARE OF WHAT IS GOING ON IN OUR GOVERNMENT AND WE NEED PEOPLE LIKE THIS TO KEEP THE CRY GOING. WE JUST NEED TO VERIFY THE THINGS THEY ARE SAYING RATHER THAN ACCEPT AT FACE VALUE. THAT'S WHERE WE HAVE A PROBLEM, TOO MANY PEOPLE TODAY ARE TOO BUSY TO TAKE THE TIME TO INVESTIGATE THE ISSUES AND WE DEPEND ON THE MEDIA TO KEEP US INFORMED. WELL THAT'S GONE DOWN THE DRAIN BECUASE THE MEDIA IS SO BIASED THE NEWS IS SLANTED TOO BAD FOR US TO BELIEVE. ISAY "KEPP IT UP" AND WE WILL TRY TO STAY ABREAST OF THE TRUTHS. WE REALLY NEED TO BE ALERT TODAY BECAUSE THIS GOVERNMENT WANTS "ALL" OUR MONEY NOT JUST SOME OF IT. IF YOU MAKE A LOT YOU OWE THEM A LOT TO SUPPORT THIER "GIVE AWAY" PROGRAMS.
August 31, 2009 at 7:31 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
HardWorker (anonymous) says...
I'll join. Thanks for taking the time to give this effort some publicity, P&C.
57% of Americans want the entire congress replaced, and start over fresh.
August 31, 2009 at 7:32 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
RuleNumberOne (anonymous) says...
Mrs. Wellborn would do well to have started locally with Henry Brown, who is not a keeper and never was. I admire anybody with a grassroots effort but when you see the government as the enemy and wash your hands of it, you effectively turn it over to people who might not support your agenda. Government can be an effective force to work on the big problems in society. Why not test your ideas, Mrs. Wellborn? Run for Congress yourself and see how well your ideas play in the public arena. You might be surprised. Or are you only interested in attacking like the other Republicans who offer no plan?
August 31, 2009 at 7:34 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
joldham (anonymous) says...
PEOPLE LIKE THE "realamerican" are the ones keeping the liberals taking our money. He / she thinks it's all the Republicans fault and the Democrats are our saviors from the disconnected republicans. With that type of thinking I think he /she is the " fruit loopy wingnut idiot who needs to have his /her head examined."
If you need a ride to the Shrinks office let us know, I'm sure you will get lots of volunteers.
August 31, 2009 at 7:35 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
joldham (anonymous) says...
I'm sorry but the College of Charleston Professors are way toooo liberal to give an unbiased point of view on politics. My daughter graduated from there and that's a mistake I wish we could have a "redo" on.. The Professors there do NOT give a well rounded education to the students. Unfortunately we don't find that out until it's too late. So the opinion of this Professor Ford of the College of Charleston does not carry a lot of weight with me.
August 31, 2009 at 7:45 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
mb300sl (anonymous) says...
Simple...term limits!
August 31, 2009 at 7:51 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
R_U_Kidding_Me (anonymous) says...
joldham.... that's why they call it a "Liberal" Arts College. LOL
August 31, 2009 at 7:59 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
R_U_Kidding_Me (anonymous) says...
mb300... not only term limits but a term limit of one and while in office they are prohibited from campaigning for any other office. That would guarantee a refreshing of politicians in general. They would have to have a real job in between elections.
August 31, 2009 at 8:02 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
charlestowne2 (anonymous) says...
She isn't afiliated with any poitical group but she is likes DeMint, is against health care reform, cap and trade, and the stimulus bill. Sounds like a republican to me. I wonder who is on her "keeper list". I also wonder about the political afiliation of those who joined her group. There is an old saying. If it lookes like a tea bag, if it dunks like a tea bag. It's a tea bag
August 31, 2009 at 8:11 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
RuleNumberOne (anonymous) says...
We need to be astute and independent enough to critically analyze for ourselves and reach our own conclusions. It's not good to rely on others always to lead us. Don't even rely on the statistics other people supply. Search them out yourself. It's also helpful to look for the real agenda of groups that may appear innocuous in name, whether it's Freedom Works or Move On.org . Is this a front group for the GOP or is it a true grassroots organization? Is it another way to donate money to support GOP candidates or is it really a nonpartisan group? Find out who the backers are.Don't join any group until you have the full picture. Don't be manipulated.
August 31, 2009 at 8:28 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
charlestowne2 (anonymous) says...
Great idea Rulenumberone, accept republicans don't work on intellect. They work on emotion and irrational fear. They never let the truth or reason get in the way of their protest.
August 31, 2009 at 8:43 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
nopartisan_noproblem (anonymous) says...
"She isn't afiliated with any poitical group but she is likes DeMint, is against health care reform, cap and trade, and the stimulus bill. Sounds like a republican to me."
Actually you don't have to be a republican. You just have to support paying for your own s#!t, being responsible for yourself, understand that capitalism, not socialism, is what made us the "greatest country in the world", and understanding what spending money you don't have can do to a country's present and future economic status. That's all. It is pretty much common sense. There is a difference b/w a Republican and a Conservative. I can't say the same for Democrat and Liberal.
August 31, 2009 at 8:48 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
yird (anonymous) says...
unrealamerican, you without a doubt have to be one of the most ignorant individuals infecting these threads with your persistent crying about "the last eight years".
Your fantasy lover, the impostor in chief has done more damage to this country in seven short months then all the previous presidents in history and you are too stupid or mesmerized to see it.
Wake up, fool.
My hats off to Catherine Welborn. She has a good idea and I'm in 100% agreement with her basic goals.
Our government is corrupt from the top down and it's time to clean house, starting at the top. We don't need a Marxist for a president nor do we need a bunch of suck up lifetime politicians fawning over his every insane action to the detriment of our republic.
Term limits for all would be a good start along with outlawing earmarks and campaigning for one office while being paid to perform in another.
Federal funds going to colleges and universities has long created a lapdog mentality in these schools as they have become nothing more than servants to the social engineering efforts of a left leaning government drunk on power.
There is little room for free thought or expression as young people are molded into willing slaves of an ideology that will eventually destroy this country.
Of course this effort by Mrs. Welborn may be nipped at the bud if the administration seizes control of the internet, which they are planning to do in the interest of "national security"!
Opposition to the government must be stifled!
I wonder just how much abuse people in these United States will accept before it's determined that something drastic needs to be done?
We cannot continue on the present path and expect our country to survive as a beacon of freedom for the rest of the world.
August 31, 2009 at 8:51 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
YouKnowMe (anonymous) says...
You have had our country under your conservative WHITE thumb for long enough. We are going to set the course and you either get onboard or SCREAM sour grapes. There will be change and you better statr getting use to it.
She should look at her own state before she worries about any others. This state is so azzbackwards that we allowed Strom to stay in office til he died....remember he needed to be carried and propped up to his seat.
August 31, 2009 at 9:02 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
pullmyfinger (anonymous) says...
Under a white thumb??? who is the screaming sour grape here? (youknowhim)Sounds like SOMEONE is keeping you down.....
And SC. kept electing Strom and Mass. kept that Ted Kennedy. I guess we are not the only azzbackwards state.
August 31, 2009 at 9:23 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
iopgal (anonymous) says...
South Carolina's schools are 49th in the Nation. Let's go for 50th.
August 31, 2009 at 9:24 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Keyesforpres (anonymous) says...
Yes, change all right. Change is NOT always good though. O and his goons want to institute a policy where conservative radio stations would have to pay a "tax" the equivalent of their entire revenue for the year!! Hello. You have to give the government all your revenue and you go out of business.
I don't care what side of the aisle you are on, we must have free speech from both sides.
"There will be change and you better statr getting used to it" is unfortunately the attitude of O and Holder and the rest of his buddies. Guess you saw and heard the black panthers that blocked the door way last fall during election day? THey refused to let whites in to vote. They said something like, "You are going to be ruled by a black man now cracker." Holder of the Justice Dept. threw it out. It was a true case of voter intimidation and it was all caught on tape.
As for the stim-u-less, O is deliberately bankrupting our country. He is trying to collapse the economy and is consolidating his power. He has illegally put the census under White House control with ACORN in charge of it!! He has moved interrogation authority under the White House authority!! Think of that!
O stated last year that he wanted a domestic security force as strong as the military!! Yikes! Gestapo anyone?? It was on Youtube, but they have been taking down videos of O right and left. Not sure if they still have the one posted where he says he doesn't speak Austrian! Yes, he really said that.
O spent his whole life marinating is Marxism, socialism, communism thought. That is what he was taught was "good". America bad. That is what he marinated in. How anyone could vote for a man that spent 20 years listening to a pastor spewing hatred against this country and against whites and jews is beyond belief. O's church gave Louis Farrakhan and award for heavens sakes!! Farrakhan spews anti-semitic rants. Sickening.
As for the tea party protests? People from both sides of the aisle were there and everyone was quite civil.
People from both sides of the aisle are protesting this "deny ppl medical treatment" too.
If O truly was worried about the uninsured (many make over $50,000 a year and many are illegals)he would have allocated some of the money from the stim-u-less bill. That bill was written by unelected ppl, by the way. Onde guy was a founding member of the Weather Underground. You know, that group that was blowing innocent ppl up in the 70's?
August 31, 2009 at 9:31 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
YouKnowMe (anonymous) says...
pullmy - yes the white thumb......30 years of republican (white males) having MOST of the control....I didn't see this lady rearing her head when Bush was spending money like a freak on WAR. I guess killing people is acceptable to her, but providing healthcare is not????
I am a WHITE WOMAN, fool and no one keeps me down, especially some harold toe licking troll like you. You know harold, the fool that wanted to meet me and beat me up. I guess that is ya'lls idea of foreplay!
Kennedy actually did things for the citizens of his state, what has DeMint done for this state? Strom made us a laughing stock, not to say with his YEARS in office he never did anything good for SC. But overall, when he spoke the rest of the country laughed.
Of course he never had a problem "loving" the black folk in SC, he just had a problem recognizing his children.
Now who is the better man??????
August 31, 2009 at 9:33 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
charlestowne2 (anonymous) says...
Yird you are as myoptic as Mr. Magoo!! Republicans controlled congress from 1994-2006 and the White House for 20 of the last the last 28 years and you figure all these problems started 7 months ago? Where have you been? The financial sector was about to collapse and would bring the country to it's knees. Economic chaos would have followed. The ensuing depression would bring hardships we never experienced before. This was avoided by tarp and the stimulus pacakage. Yes it cost a great deal of money and yes we will have to pay it back. But our economy is recovering. President Obama had the fortitude to do what needed to be done. He should be thanked for it. None of this would have been neccessary if the republicans in power looked out for the citizens of this country and not the profits of their friends. You republicans brought on this problem and now complain about the cure. Get your eyes fixed.
August 31, 2009 at 9:37 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
YouKnowMe (anonymous) says...
Keyes - your user name screams it all.....you are irrelevant........O spent his whole life marinating is Marxism, socialism, communism thought.
Oh, and your posts are full of flat out falsehoods.
You might want to do a little research before you start channeling RUSH, he doesn't know the facts either, but then again when do facts ever matter to your ilk?
August 31, 2009 at 9:38 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
BlackReign (anonymous) says...
First, realunamerican is the old hate monger troll; blue_eyes, spankurbuns, JimISlander, johnQnut 1&2, his real name is Malcolm Malcontent.
Second, I applaud this lady for making a stand. She is not alone, I saw this posted on another thread;
RASMUSSEN POLL: Obama Approval New Low at 46%
57% Would Like to Replace Entire Congress
If they could vote to keep or replace the entire Congress, just 25% of voters nationwide would keep the current batch of legislators.
A new Rasmussen Reports national telephone survey finds that 57% would vote to replace the entire Congress and start all over again. Eighteen percent (18%) are not sure how they would vote.
Overall, these numbers are little changed since last October. When Congress was passing the unpopular $700-billion bailout plan in the heat of a presidential campaign and a seeming financial industry meltdown, 59% wanted to throw them all out. At that time, just 17% wanted to keep them.
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/publi...
August 31, 2009 at 9:43 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
YouKnowMe (anonymous) says...
BlackReign, oh I mean Boot Strap, oh I mean tripsa.......did you ever see a right wing website you didn't like? Or is cutting & pasting all your mouse will do?
August 31, 2009 at 9:45 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
BlackReign (anonymous) says...
YouKnowMe says...
"There will be change and you better statr getting use to it."
You are right, 2010 first and then 2012.
August 31, 2009 at 9:45 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
BlackReign (anonymous) says...
YouKnowMe, hate to break it to you, but Rasmussen Reports, has been and is the most accurate polling group out there. So argue with them.
You obviously cant expand your thinking past your MSNB talking points. Sorry that cutting and pasting the truth bothers you, sine you cant refute it you just resort to attacking the truth. Nice left wing tactic.
August 31, 2009 at 9:49 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
WAres (anonymous) says...
Youknowme : You have had our country under your conservative WHITE thumb for long enough.
Why have you turned this into a RACE issue? This is about government accountability. This is about government spending money it does not have. It's about taking away from some and giving it to others without consent. ( that is the definition of stealing, BTW) It's about personal responsibility!
Which of the above to you not agree with. Should politicians not be held accountable? Do you believe in stealing if it benefits you? Do you believe someone owes you something because of your circumstances?
August 31, 2009 at 9:57 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
pullmyfinger (anonymous) says...
Ge whiz uknowme...sorry your date Harold wanted to beat you up. Guess he was expecting a black woman by the way you talk/type.
Ted Kennedy was a boozer and let that woman drown and defended his nephew when he was raping people and you want to give him a free pass, wow....who is azzbackwards???
And then you scream the white man thumb kept you down?? when you are white???? Find a original chip......girlfriend!!
August 31, 2009 at 9:58 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Lovely_One (anonymous) says...
pullmyfinger (anonymous) says...
Ge whiz uknowme...sorry your date Harold wanted to beat you up. Guess he was expecting a black woman by the way you talk/type.
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WOW! Really??
August 31, 2009 at 10:04 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
pullmyfinger (anonymous) says...
Really!!
August 31, 2009 at 10:06 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Lovely_One (anonymous) says...
And the beat goes on......
August 31, 2009 at 10:08 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
pullmyfinger (anonymous) says...
sonny and cher...right
August 31, 2009 at 10:10 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
charlestowne2 (anonymous) says...
Wares this is about government spending? And the last 8 years we didn't spend ourselves into huge deficits? Suddenly you are a fiscal conservative? Bush and Chaney shredding the constitution didn't bother you? Chaney's pals making obscene profits off the Iraq war didn't bother you? Now that all the problems republicans caused have to be fixed, now you wake up. Take responsibility. For 20 of the last 28 years republicans had the White House. From 1994 to 2006 republicans controlled congress. And now you are concerned? All the roosters the republicans set out have come home to roost. Your policies didn't work and now we have to fix your mess. Look in a mirror. Every dollar being spent is caused by misguided republican policies.
August 31, 2009 at 10:12 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Lovely_One (anonymous) says...
No, "The Whispers."
Any way on to the article. I feel that if more people would actually "RESEARCH" the candidates, educate themselves on what they really stand for, understand what their policies are, not expect the government to take care of them, etc. we could actually vote in people worth their weight. But instead we have people that vote for a person based on that capital letter that follows the candidate's name and I don't that will CHANGE any time soon.
August 31, 2009 at 10:12 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
YouKnowMe (anonymous) says...
Never mind lovely, pullmyfinger is an ignorant redneck like his "buddy" harold.
I guess it is OK for harold to beat up black woman, but not white....hhhhhmmmmm says a lot about the type of people they are.
Most of you haters are just filled with crap because your leader is a BLACK MAN.
That is what all this Tea Bagger crap is truly about. Not one of you were screaming like this when the WHITE MAN gave the first stimulus package, or when he started a war on lies or when he ran up our deficit.
August 31, 2009 at 10:16 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
realamerican (anonymous) says...
yird (anonymous) says...
"I wonder just how much abuse people in these United States will accept before it's determined that something drastic needs to be done?"
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Yird I pray for the day you wingnuts decide it is time to "determine something drastic needs to be done". It will then be time to take care of you traitors once and for all. If you think the majority is going to let you idiots subvert our constitution because you don't like the way our elected government operates you will be in for a rude awakening. You are nothing but fearful cowards anyway. That is how Bush and Cheney have manipulated you. Just who are you republicans going to send to do your dirty work? Republicans don't fight their own battles, they get others to do the dying for them.
Please make my day, coward! All we will see of the likes of your kind will be the bottom of your shoes as you run away. The majority will tell you how it is going to be. If you don't like it TOUGH!
August 31, 2009 at 10:17 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
charlestowne2 (anonymous) says...
BlackReign in the poll I just took, 90% think you are a fool. But 100% thought pullmyfinger was a fool. You just have to try harder.
August 31, 2009 at 10:17 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
martin (anonymous) says...
Not many of you people remember Mendel Rivers, do you?
The Trident area would not exist, as you know it, if not for the earmarks( sorry, bacon) he brought home years ago.
August 31, 2009 at 10:22 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
realamerican (anonymous) says...
charlestowne2 (anonymous) says...
BlackReign in the poll I just took, 90% think you are a fool. But 100% thought pullmyfinger was a fool. You just have to try harder.
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LMAO! So true!!
It's a race with these vile bootlickers to see who is the most ignorant!
August 31, 2009 at 10:26 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Lovely_One (anonymous) says...
martin, of course I remember him. There is a street named him in St. Stephen where he lived. ;-)
August 31, 2009 at 10:28 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
yird (anonymous) says...
YouKnowMe (anonymous) says...
You have had our country under your conservative WHITE thumb for long enough. We are going to set the course and you either get onboard or SCREAM sour grapes. There will be change and you better statr getting use to it.
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Since you want to turn this into a racial issue I'll go there with you.
Sounds like your advocating black rule.
Should that black rule follow the same pattern as other black ruled nations like Sudan, Nigeria or Liberia where disease and mayhem are the natural order of the day?
Tell us oh learned descendant of ancient winged beings of superior intellect, do you really want "black rule"?
charlestowne2,evidently you have not lived long enough to remember, or have never been taught that the democrats controlled the purse strings of this country for 40 years plus, where they laid the groundwork for a myriad of budget busting entitlement programs before the republicans got control of congress.
That aside, your minimal understanding of basic fiscal responsibility explains why you have bought into "the sky is falling" theme broadcast by the administration as they incurred massive new debt to curtail a crises that will now surely occur because of their obscene actions.
I am not a republican and you lack the capacity to grasp what is going on so just keep living in your little Obama world of make believe and the rest of us with fully developed adult brains will try to figure out the most expedient way to halt this Juggernaut against the American way of life.
August 31, 2009 at 10:31 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
pullmyfinger (anonymous) says...
totally different song but a better one yet.
And yes lets vote the person in without looking at the R or D at the end of their name. Research them more. Read some Mr. and Mrs. O`s college thesis papers and that might give you a clue of their true ideas on America. Its a real insight long before they got political and started saying what the machine wanted them to say.
August 31, 2009 at 10:33 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
BlackReign (anonymous) says...
realamerican says...
'Republicans don't fight their own battles, they get others to do the dying for them.'
Geez, and here I thought that JFK (democrat) got us into Vietnam (after the Bay of Pigs fiasco) and then LBJ (democrat) increased the troops and kept us in Vietnam, until he quit and left the mess to Nixon.
Oh and LBJ started that war on poverty thing too....that is still being fought and funded to the tune of trillions of $$$ and at the cost & destruction of millions of families (black & white).
Love that compassionate liberalism.
August 31, 2009 at 10:41 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
20lbtest (anonymous) says...
Wow, lots of name calling from the Kool-Aide (sp!) drinkin NObama crowd....so bitter and angry--I guess it easier than facing the truth about your guy.
You sound scared....
For good reason--Rahm and Axelrod are clueless. Truth hurts huh?
Talk about channeling-Oberman and Madow anyone?
Your 15 minutes are almost up.
August 31, 2009 at 10:45 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Lovely_One (anonymous) says...
YouKnowMe,
That is what caught my attention. I had to read it again to be sure I read it correctly. But, of course some people won't see anything wrong with what he said.
Also, I will say that I feel that interjecting race into this argument was uncalled for. There are enough racial arguments without making one out of one that shouldn't be.
August 31, 2009 at 10:46 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Squidward (anonymous) says...
All you libs, defend this massive spending admin all you want... Mrs. Welborn's website www.reasonabletaxes.org is so overwhelmed right now, you can't even get to it.
August 31, 2009 at 10:50 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Lovely_One (anonymous) says...
pullmyfinger,
Yes, it is a far better one. Although I like Sonny and Cher, I didn't like their version at all. As far as reading the Obamas' college papers, if we read/heard some of the things many of our politicians wrote/said/felt pre-politics we would all get some insight on how they feel about America and fellow Americans (Black, White, Brown, et al) as a whole.
August 31, 2009 at 10:51 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
pullmyfinger (anonymous) says...
Malcolm....why are you into boot licking so much??? You use that term so much, you must like it. You can continue to lick Obama`s boot especially when he is done walking America into giant poop hole. But you are probably used to that.
Is uknowme your spouse??
August 31, 2009 at 10:53 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
realamerican (anonymous) says...
Blackreign talks about freeloaders and the war on poverty yet fails to mention he is one and benefits from it! He is on the public dole yet criticizes others. Why is that Blackreign? Why is it OK for you to rely on us for your very survival yet you decry others getting the very same benefits you enjoy at taxpayers expense? You seem to think only you deserve to be taken care of in your time of need. What makes you deserving while others are not? You are nothing but a boot licking hypocrite.
August 31, 2009 at 10:53 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
WAres (anonymous) says...
Charlestowne2,
Do not presume to know my party affiliation or my history! You have no idea what I did or did not do regarding government spending over the last 12 years.
Know this, I am against any government spending except for what the Constitution allows! I am not for giving MY hard earned money to anyone unless I choose to give it; despite how sympathetic and benevolent all the claims that are made when you are stealing it. So, you can just keep your brilliant Stimulus Pkg and insane "spend us out of recession" philosophy. You may thank me for helping to pay for your car, your health care and any and all other handouts the government has illegally given to you without MY consent!
I don't agree with electing officials because of the many benefits and gifts they promise for my vote! The only promise I want is for the elected to support and defend the Constitution as they pledged when taking the oath of office! TYVM
August 31, 2009 at 10:56 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
pullmyfinger (anonymous) says...
By the way people Mr. Obama is not our first black president. He is our first Mulatto president. And I dont care what color he is or isnt, I care whats in his or her head/heart. I would rather have Hillary than him. Thats pretty scary!
August 31, 2009 at 11 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Keyesforpres (anonymous) says...
YouKnow, O said in his book "Dreams from my Father" that he was drawn to Marxism. What is your opinion of his listening to a pastor spewing hatred against whites, Jews, and America? O gave his church $40,000 in total during 2005 and 2006. Ayers kicked off his fundraising for his run for the Illinois Senate.
How anyone could vote for a man that listened to that bilge for 20 years is beyond comprehension.
Yes, Bush spent too much (when the dems were in the minority under Bush, they wanted to spend more than what Bush proposed!). Those of us that voted for Bush were very angry about it. The Republicans blew it. We actually speak out against it though. You O supporters refuse to speak out against his mistakes.
The stim-u-less package is nothing but money going to dems' interest groups. Did you know 8 billion dollars is going to ACORN?? You know who they are don't you? Did all that fradulent voter registration last fall?
Hundreds of millions went to condom distribution. Well, I guess that is a stimulus package...ooh,la, la! ;-)
I actually saw the video of the guy blocking the doorway to the voting station. Youtube it. Although, they have probably taken it down.
Have you heard about the Cybersecurity bill of 2009? O would have the authority to shut down the internet whenever he felt like it.
I saw many videos of O's preacher spewing bilge against whites, Jews, and America. As a white woman I don't understand how you could vote for a man that listened to hatred for 20 years against your race. Sickening.
Anyway, I know many O supporters will never believe anything about him. It is very scary indeed.
August 31, 2009 at 11:03 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
TDarby (anonymous) says...
It is time for a Constitutional Convention to examine and recommend a workable system for management and administration of the United States. Number and size of the States need to be researched. The need for local, county and state government needs study. Division of power between the States and the Federal Government needs serious examination. Finally the organization and management of the Federal Government is of major concern. A major concern should be tax revenue and budget for the States and Federal government.
August 31, 2009 at 11:04 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Keyesforpres (anonymous) says...
TDarby, a Constitutional Convention would be diastrous. With the ppl in power now, they could rewrite the entire Constitutional and take away all our freedoms.
I heard O give a radio interview in 2001 in which he said he did not believe in the constraints our Founding Fathers placed on the Constitution. Those constraints are on the federal gov't. In other words, he wants the federal gov't to have unfettered power!! He does not believe in the Constitution!!
He has shown that time and time again. He fired the CEO of GM!! The president fired someone in the private sector!! That is fascism pure and simple. Now he and the dems want to tell companies what they can pay their employees.
By the way, I have been getting spam emails from the White House. Started about 2 months ago. After I got my first two emails, I read that O and his goons had broken federal law getting their hands on our email addresses.
August 31, 2009 at 11:10 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
pullmyfinger (anonymous) says...
Malcolm.........one more hour till favorite radio guy comes on...........ROCKY D
I laugh so hard when I hear you speak on radio. Ssssstuddering through your liberal talking points. You should have your own talk show, maybe on Air America. Oh thats right they went bankrupt because nobody would listen to them.
August 31, 2009 at 11:11 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Keyesforpres (anonymous) says...
pullmyfinger, my dad summed it up. He said, "Obama is not our first black president, he is our first RED president."
August 31, 2009 at 11:12 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
YouKnowMe (anonymous) says...
I interjected race into this thread because that is how I see the Tea Baggers. They are frustrated because they are really upset about our president’s race, but they cannot say it out loud. Therefore they come up with this tea bag crap as an excuse to give voice to said frustration.
They NEVER spoke up when Bush spent all that money, they did not speak up when he slowly eroded our civil liberties, they never spoke up when they started torturing people, they never spoke up about big government when he started reading our e-mail or tapping our phones.
I call it as I see it and that's all I can do.......if you do not shine the light then the roaches run amuck.
August 31, 2009 at 11:23 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
TDarby (anonymous) says...
The Colonist Knew What To Do With George III
While the freedoms granted by the Constitution are timeless, The management and government of the United States are not. When the Constitution was ratified there were thirteen States, the population was just slightly more than one million citizens, and the budget was well less than two million dollars. Today, the congress is composed of more than five hundred individuals, the budget is so large the GAO cannot keep up with the spending, and the population is more than three hundred million citizens in fifty States. The Congressmen are more interested in reelection than governing the country. Lobbyist provide large sums of money for favors that are against the best interest of the citizens. The election of a President is more a popularity contest than a search for a well qualified person. The Candidates are chosen by a two party system. About sixty percent of the population are active party members. The other forty percent of the population generally vote against a candidate rather than voting for a candidate. The citizens are calling for change in the government.
It is time for a Constitutional Convention to examine and recommend a workable system for management and administration of the United States. Number and size of the States need to be researched. The need for local, county and state government needs study. Division of power between the States and the Federal Government needs serious examination. Finally the organization and management of the Federal Government is of major concern. A major concern should be tax revenue and budget for the States and Federal government.
August 31, 2009 at 11:25 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
BlackReign (anonymous) says...
realamerican (malcolm malcontent) says...
"Blackreign talks about freeloaders and the war on poverty yet fails to mention he is one and benefits from it!"
There you go folks, thats what malcolm thinks of retired military members. He thinks all retirees are 'freeloaders'. So because I served my country for 22 years and draw a retirement check for my fulfilling my contract with the US government, me and ALL military retirees are according to realamericanleftist malcolm - freeloaders.
I agree with pullmyfinger - malcolm is a laughing stock, a joke & a simple coward.
August 31, 2009 at 11:29 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
YouKnowMe (anonymous) says...
Why is it OK for you to have socialized medicine, but not the reat of America?
You called them freeloaders, not real, he just put 2+2 together.
August 31, 2009 at 11:32 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
bargeman (anonymous) says...
All of you are fools. If you think the last Legal citizen President(BUSH) was bad (and I think he was worse than Jimmy Carter). What to you think this illigal alien(not born in the USA), moslem, murderer(abortionist lover), socialist that is going to totally destroy this country and start a civil war is?.
August 31, 2009 at 11:36 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
YouKnowMe (anonymous) says...
Barge - I'll tell you what I think.....you are a freaking crazy nutjob.
August 31, 2009 at 11:38 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Lovely_One (anonymous) says...
bargeman, please give the illegal/Muslim thing a rest. Those are strawman arguments and take away from any legitimate argument you may have had against the President.
August 31, 2009 at 11:39 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Keyesforpres (anonymous) says...
Again, a Constitutional Convention would be disastrous. They could rewrite the entire Constitution. Very dangerous.
As for Youknow's insult to all Americans who went to the Tea Parties, very typical of the left. You have mastered O's hero Saul Alinksy's, "Rules for Radicals". Give personal insults instead of talking about the actual issues.
I was at the local tea party and met ppl from all political parties. My dear, a black man spoke at the rally. Everyone was civil. No destruction of property like those charming war protesters a few years back (where have they gone by the way? Suddenly the wars don't matter now that O is in power? This has been our deadliest year in Afghanistan. Crickets from the MSM).
Ppl from ALL political parties recognize this as an American issue. O is deliberately bankrupting our country. Everyone should be outraged. Everyone.
Oh and reducing this to race is pathetic. That is what one does when they can't win with facts.
August 31, 2009 at 11:41 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Keyesforpres (anonymous) says...
If it is a strawman argument, one should not get banned for life from discussion boards. That is what is happening. It has happened to me on many papers. You cannot even mention "it". It turns out the FCC has threatened papers that allow it. Sorry, but why would that be if it was truly a "strawman argument"?
Complete loyalty to this nation and our Constitution is not a strawman argument.
August 31, 2009 at 11:44 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Lovely_One (anonymous) says...
"That is what one does when they can't win with facts."
August 31, 2009 at 11:50 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
bobbyonetooth (anonymous) says...
The Welborn's did not move from Hanahan to West Ashley, they were asked to leave. Her husband got 60 out of 665 votes cast and finished 4th out of 5 people in a primary.
Complete flakes. Against all Government spending including cops, teachers, roads, public works, most county workers. Of course they like Jim DeMint, he is against everything too.
What the heck are any of these people FOR other than cutting taxes.
August 31, 2009 at 11:52 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
YouKnowMe (anonymous) says...
Oh, there was A black guy at you tea bagging event......wow, I bet he felt a little love from you guys. It is always good to have a token.
I call them as I see them....you still did not respond to the fact that you tea baggers were MIA when Bush was tossing America in the crapper.
What is that.....yes, crickets, just what I thought!
August 31, 2009 at 11:57 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
BlackReign (anonymous) says...
YouKnowMe - I will waste my time and try and help you grasp the facts.
Fact - I joined the military and they said we will provide you healhcare while on active duty and when you retire. It was part of a contract between me and the government. It wasnt just handed to me for nothing.
Fact - I did my part and now receive my retirement check.
Fact - my healthcare is provided by Humana which is Tricare Prime HMO provider.
Fact - I pay a annual premium for the "free healthcare" the government promised me. It comes out of my check.
Fact - I pay co-pays, I pay for my meds, I go to a PRIVATE primary care Dr.
Fact - If I were to try and use the VA for everyday type illnesses, it would take 3-4 months to be seen.
- NOT THE VA's fault, they are over burdened with red tape and 100s of rules governing PRIORITY patients. VA folks do a great job, but they can not take care of all the vets, therefore we PAY a premium to be seen by private Dr.s
Socialized medicine? Sure, go for it, join the military serve your country and EARN it. But Socialized healthcare - Its not as great as you think.
Fact - if I go to the ER with a headache, bad cold, or the flu, and Tricare deems it a NO-ER event - I PAY FOR THE COST of the visit.
Fact - if I were an unisured illegal or legal resident and went to the ER I would pay zip, nada, zero.
But I already know how most of you leftists think about us evil military members, we saw that with the radical 60s scum during Vietnam.
So, instead of griping about getting 'free' socialized med healthcare, thank a vet for your ability to enjoy your freedoms, including the freedom to disdain those of us that have sacrificed for our country and get the benifits we were promised. I was fortunate, others have given the ultimate sacrifice.
It really is amazing, you phony leftist cray and moan about the troops dying in the war on terror yet resent the fact that we get -OMG- 'free' healthcare & a retirement check.
August 31, 2009 at 12:02 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
realamerican (anonymous) says...
pullmyfinger (anonymous) says...
By the way people Mr. Obama is not our first black president. He is our first Mulatto president. And I dont care what color he is or isnt, I care whats in his or her head/heart. I would rather have Hillary than him. Thats pretty scary!
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Yeah right. You don't care what color skin he has?
You are one of the biggest racists who posts their filth in the comment section. If you cared what was in our politicians hearts you would have been against Bush and Cheney. Blacker hearts our government has not seen yet you champion these evil men.
You fool no one.
August 31, 2009 at 12:04 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
BlackReign (anonymous) says...
Oh, and our retirement check is only after 20 years honorable service, unlike congress's or the senate's. And they DO NOT have the same healthcare provided to us Vets, they have a whole lot better.
August 31, 2009 at 12:08 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Keyesforpres (anonymous) says...
Wow, what a degrading comment youknow. Calling that man a token? He served in our military and believes in this nation. How dare you denigrate that good and decent man. The only ppl I see on these boards insulting a black person is you folks on the left. I don't get it. I met Republicans, Democrats, Independents, and ppl in the Constitution party as well. Your denigrating comments to Americans exercising their first amendment rights is sickening and of great concern. There is an element in this country that thinks only they have the right to protest and speak out.
We did speak out against Bush. However, as bad as Bush was, he was nothing compared to O. You do understand that O and the dems have spent more in the first 30 days of power than all presidents combined?? Including W? Perhaps you can see why we suddenly decided it was time to take to the streets??
I hope the man that was at the Tea Party that you have so viciously slandered does not read your hatefilled comments. And you think you are so enlightened. Geez.
August 31, 2009 at 12:14 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
realamerican (anonymous) says...
Blackreign you fake! All your talk about socialsim for others is wrong but it is just fine for you. You "earned it" is your response to why socialized care is OK for you and not others. If you had any integrity you would hang your head in shame. You don't though. You are brainwashed by the Limbaughs and Becks of the world into thinking there is a reason for you to be a republican.
You also seem to think only right wing nutjobs like yourself are the only ones to serve in the military. Tell the truth you fake, you stayed in the military because you are a coward and couldn't make it in the real world.
We need to raise taxes higher just to drive irresponsible leaches like you out of our state. Those like you who are so selfish you are willing to let our children suffer and go without a decent education or health care so your pathetic cost of living doesn't go up are one of the main reasons our state is in such disarray. The unnatural concentration of retirees is what has choked off our economy. If we could just keep the responsible retirees and rid ourselves of leaches like you who do not pull their fair share our state would be much better off.
August 31, 2009 at 12:18 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Feldon_Starns (anonymous) says...
YouKnowMe,
Ah Ms. Rice, eh...General Powell, were they token? You know it is way to easy to throw race out there as a deterrent to real dialogue. Why don't you come clean and admit that the real problem is Washington and the culture built around it. I advocate sending Smurff's and the Blue Man Group to the capital. That way you could put BLUE in caps while you rant.
August 31, 2009 at 12:23 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
bobbyonetooth (anonymous) says...
BlackReign - You can use the VA if you want and they are awesome for "everyday illnesses". Charleston has an outstanding VA facility and utilizes some of the best talents in the world to deliver services to former military members. You may want to visit and take time to observe the significant amount of minorities that use the VA. The minorities you are so quick to dismiss are and have been the backbone of our military for many generations in all conflicts. The local VA facility is named after Ralph Jonson, a black man who gave his life to save 5 others in Vietnam when he was not even elligible to vote, rent a hotel room, or sit down for lunch at a restaurant of his choice in South Carolina.
August 31, 2009 at 12:25 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
pullmyfinger (anonymous) says...
uknowme thinks the tea baggers are only mad at Obama because he is Mulatto. No proof to that at all. The tea bag rally is to protest against Washington for taxing and spending us to death. Why is it only about the race thing to you????
I for one look to a day when people are judged by their content and not their color of their skin. But you seem to not have any content(youknowme)
August 31, 2009 at 12:28 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
charlestowne2 (anonymous) says...
BlackReign it doesn't matter how you put it, your on the government dole. Your retirement and health care are paid for by the government. No different then a person on social security and medicare or on welfare and medicaid. The government is supporting you. In a pure capitalist society you would be on your own. Welcome to socialism. Not so bad when you're on the taking end. I do appreciate your military service and I think enough of you to take care of you for the rest of your life.
August 31, 2009 at 12:32 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
bobbyonetooth (anonymous) says...
pullmyfinger - what would you cut? military? schools? roads? airports? epa? law enforcement? fda? noaa? is it bailing out the banks that got you so mad? that would be bush's fault. is it not bidding medicare drugs? that too would be bush's fault. is it invading iraq because they had weapons of mass destruction? that too is bush's fault. what did you expect obama to do? watch the whole country fall apart in a massive meltdown. get serious.
August 31, 2009 at 12:38 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Keyesforpres (anonymous) says...
BlackReign, thank you for your service. God bless you and every other man and woman who has served and is currently serving in our military.
Pay no mind to the vitriol being spewed at you. It makes no sense to me.
As for our childrens' education, it was the Republicans in Columbia that fought for school choice about 4 or 5 years ago and the Dems voted it down. Saw Inez Tennebaum being interviewed by John Stossel on ABC and she defended blocking school choice because "it had never been tried before". Huh?? Well, let's give it a try. Minority are hurt the most by blocking school choice!! You should be able to go to whatever public school you want no matter where you live. You shouldn't have to live in a swanky neighborhood.
By the way, Bush instituted a program where inner city kids could apply for a voucher and go to a private school in the DC area and get out of the failing public school system. There are about 1700 kids in the program. Most are black and were doing well in this program.
Guess what?? The stimulus bill will stop this program. Why?? Because that is what the teachers union wanted. And hey, the teachers union is a big contributor to the dem party. These kids will be thrown back into the public schools next year. So please, spare me that Republicans don't care about education and our kids.
August 31, 2009 at 12:41 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
pullmyfinger (anonymous) says...
charlestowne2....The BIG DIFFERENCE is Blakreign earned his retirement check defending you and the rest of America. Why is it that you deserve it?
August 31, 2009 at 12:41 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
memen99 (anonymous) says...
Now come on you guys. Don’t you see that this is what the corrupt, wasteful, unethical politicians want. Us! Arguing about party and race and not focusing on the real problem. Them! In election years, they make all these promises and want to act like they are one of us. Although being one of us is beneath them. How else would they justify wasting OUR money? Why do they get health insurance paid for life when I am struggling to keep mine? They deserve it? They need it? Well, s4#t, I need my money. But, they keep taking more. Have you ever tried to call one of these elected officials with a problem? Try it, you will see where you stand. Race doesn’t matter, party doesn’t matter. Even the good ones eventually get corrupted; there are NO keepers. We must stop relying on the media and get informed. I must commend this lady for trying to help. We need to unite; we must change all politics local, state and Washington. Get involved!
August 31, 2009 at 12:43 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
BlackReign (anonymous) says...
bobbyonetooth - Where was I so quick to dismiss minorities?
I have used the Ralph Johnson VA, they are great, but when I say everyday illnesses, you have to call to get an appt, which could be months out or go to their urgent care wing. Now things may have changed since I last used them. But I never said that our VA hospital was bad, or that its hard working folks were not world class. They are great. But I get quicker care at my private Dr.
realunamerican, your so laughingly pathetic. Now military retirees are 'irresponsible leaches' are they?
Do you understand the concept of retirement? People work a job state government, military, private companies X number of years and then earn their retirement.
I know for a common twit and hate monger like you that working hard and earning a retirement check is hard to grasp, but people do it all the time.
BTW Malcolm, I pay taxes on my retirement.
How do you live with so much bitterness and hate in your heart? You must be a very miserable person to be around.
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August 31, 2009 at 12:50 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Feldon_Starns (anonymous) says...
memen99,
RIGHT ON! Send'em packing. The sooner everyone realizes Washington is a big club and not a soul posting here is a member the better off we will all be.
August 31, 2009 at 12:51 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
WhatMeWorry (anonymous) says...
Keyes wrote: "where have they (war protesters) gone by the way? Suddenly the wars don't matter now that O is in power?"
Try to keep up with the news. Cindy Sheehan and company were protesting Obama at Martha's Vineyard while he was on vacation.
August 31, 2009 at 12:52 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
bobbyonetooth (anonymous) says...
Paul Welborn got 9% of 665 votes cast in the Republican primary for a county commissioner position. 4th place. The Welborn's are against all Government spending. Once people get to know the Welborn's they run away. Everyone they have endorsed has lost.
August 31, 2009 at 12:55 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
yird (anonymous) says...
charlestowne2 (anonymous) says.The minorities you are so quick to dismiss are and have been the backbone of our military for many generations in all conflicts.
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Not taking anything away from the contribution to the military made by my black brothers in arms but you have made an extraordinary claim and it would be nice if you could back it up with something other than your childish desire to be considered a wonderful, tolerant, unbiased, caring individual.
When I went aboard my first ship in 1956 there was less that ten percent of the crew that were black.
I dare say they were not the "backbone" of the crew, just members.
This heaping undue praise on all things black and denigrating all things white is getting a bit far fetched don't you think?
I know that Hollyweird and television commercials now always show blacks in favorable light but all is not always as they portray it.
Just like there are some very bad white people, there are (forgive me) some very bad black people.
Now go take your meds.
August 31, 2009 at 12:59 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
YouKnowMe (anonymous) says...
Ok Black, I pay my taxes that paid your salary the entire time you were in the military. My father, my grandfather and my husband were in the military. My family suffered the fear and the dread of not knowing. My family suffered from the separation and heart ache, the injuries of the wars and three shots. The nightmares of WWII, Korea (Chosen Frozen), and 2 voluntary tours in Vietnam and the Gulf War......so tell me who truly deserves the healthcare you receive right now??????? I'll tell you......... EVERY SINGLE AMERICAN!
Token is exactly what this man was referred to the first place…..”there was this black man that attended”….what else would you get from that?
Scream all you want the tea baggers are just fear mongering…….tell me……where were they when Bush was raping our country and IRAQ?
No one wants to touch that one do you?????????????
August 31, 2009 at 1 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
charlestowne2 (anonymous) says...
Yird, I think you ane WAres both need that eye exam. As I recall the last democratic president left office with a budget surplus. After working to eliminate the deficit left by a republican president. Now history is repeating only this repupublican president not only left a giant deficit, but the entire economy in shambles. Now you are blaming the democrat president cleaning up another republican mess. Banks stopped leanding, businesses could not get loans to met their payrolls, and were threatened with going out of business. The drop in the stock market and housing industry cost many their homes and life savings. And it was getting worse by the day. In fact, the sky was falling. The only way to save the economy was to inject money into it. Basic economics. The only place to get that money was from the federal government. I didn't hear another solution proposed accept the one that got us here. Another tax break for the rich.
And for the record I am not on the government dole. I don't get a cent of my support from any government agency. No welfare, food stamps, social security, military pension or medicare. Neither I or my children received a government loan or grant for college educations. Did you ever read the preamble to the constitution where it says "Promote the general welfare"? I believe in that.
August 31, 2009 at 1:05 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
bridgeoperator (anonymous) says...
It will take 40 years to fix the damage this president does in 4 years. George Bush will look like a saint after this guy is done.....and the falling poll numbers prove people regret voting for this clown. Bush made mistakes with the economy, but nothing like what is going on now. People like realamerican are too stupid to ever figure it out. they are the same people that put jimmy carter into office...and we all know how that went. 4 and out!!
August 31, 2009 at 1:06 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
YouKnowMe (anonymous) says...
oh and pullmy and many of the other posters on here are the ones that run to post on any article that is about a black man going to jail.......
they only get their backs up when you out and out call them on it. They are like roaches when the lights come on.
Hypocrites one and all.
August 31, 2009 at 1:07 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
YouKnowMe (anonymous) says...
yird the turd - SSSSSUUUURRRREEEE Hollywood only shows blacks in a positive light.....hell man what TV shows have you been watching?
This act like the poor white guys are getting bashed....well it is about time someone stood up and voiced the truth....ALL things white do not make it good, or pure, or right!
I am not saying all things black are good, what I am saying is it about high time we started recognizing that not ALL things black are bad!
August 31, 2009 at 1:12 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
bridgeoperator (anonymous) says...
Ted Kennedy is a murderer. Only good Kennedy is a dead one as history has proved. iopgal if you don't like it here get the hell out.
August 31, 2009 at 1:16 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
scottmcx (anonymous) says...
The "Revolution of the Lazy Jackasses" is FAILING! They know it and they are afraid!
I LOVE BO,MAMA...he's given birth to a New Reagan Revolution, or even better. What a great man!
August 31, 2009 at 1:17 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
bridgeoperator (anonymous) says...
youknowme is an angry black. a very ignorant black at that....but don't get mad, you have plenty of comapnay in the world. WW!!!
August 31, 2009 at 1:18 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
scottmcx (anonymous) says...
So, I agree with "YouKnowMe" everything Black isn't bad....
THANKS BO'MAMA!
You've ended the "half a**ed" Republicanism of 2 Bushes and 1 Progressive Clit-ton!
August 31, 2009 at 1:21 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
charlestowne2 (anonymous) says...
Yird, see what I mean about those glasses I never said "charlestowne2 (anonymous) says.The minorities you are so quick to dismiss are and have been the backbone of our military for many generations in all conflicts." You don't need to put words in my mouth . I have enough of your own. The military was segregated until 1948. Real intergration of the military didn't start until The Viet Nam War. So not seeing many African Americans on your ship isn't suprising. Of the African Americans you saw, how many were stewards? .
August 31, 2009 at 1:23 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Feldon_Starns (anonymous) says...
White guilt, pass it on....
A previous poster was right about television commercials; it's as if almost all white males somehow left the planet and all that is left (white male wise) are buffoons and criminals. Take note of the companies, they are being mean,....and hateful...and all kind of other stuff I just can't say here....they hurt my sentiment also...sniff, sniff...
August 31, 2009 at 1:24 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
YouKnowMe (anonymous) says...
scott - stop proving my point......when you post things like that you make all us white people look out of touch.
We have a history of ignoring the obvious and I for one am not going to continue the charade!
charlestowne2 - thank you for pointing out to yird the facts about our military ingegration. I was going to go on a rant, but you beat me to the punch....and in a much nicer way.
August 31, 2009 at 1:30 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Keyesforpres (anonymous) says...
Youknow, I didn't say there was "one black man at the event". I said one of the people who spoke was black. A black is allowed to have a conservative viewpoint.
By the way, if Bush's spending was bad for the economy please tell me how O doing spending on steroids will help the economy?? The government spending us into oblivion will not help the economy. If O had slashed corporate tax rates that would have helped. How? It would make the business climate more hospital for well, businesses. Everytime taxes are slashed, tax revenues increase. Why? Because companies can afford to hire more ppl thereby more ppl paying taxes! I worked for a small business in the late 80's and early 90's that would not have been in business if not for Reagan's tax cuts. Revenues increased under his tax cuts.
What is your opinion of the inner city kids that will be booted back into the dismal public school system in DC?
Did you know that 550 tons of yellowcake was found in Iraq? It was quietly sold to Canada in the summer of 2008 for peaceful purposes. MSM won't report on that though. Both sides of the aisle said there was WMD's. Congress authorized the war. That is how it works (with the Constitution). The president has to put it before a vote to Congress before we can go to war. Maybe you didn't know that.
To those of you whining about "tax cuts for the rich".....tell me something, have you ever been given a job by a poor person?? Of have you always gotten a job from someone who has more money than you? Lose the jealousy of others success. It is really unbecoming.
www.operationiraqichildren.org
thanks George.
August 31, 2009 at 1:30 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
counterpoint (anonymous) says...
Keyes, that yellowcake was documented by and well-known to the IAEA since 1991. Its existence in and removal from Iraq are not a vindication of the WMD claims.
August 31, 2009 at 1:42 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
wjhamilton3 (anonymous) says...
So are all of you going up to North Charleston on Thursday evening for Henry Brown's Town Hall? He's an utterly ineffective congressman from both the Republican and Democratic perspective. We should at least have a competent conservative, if we can't get a liberal. What is the point of a worn out hack who does nothing for no one?
August 31, 2009 at 1:53 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
YouKnowMe (anonymous) says...
You must be getting a check to post on this thread....no one who wasn't getting paid would type your tripe! Let me see:
Bush spent money on WAR! I know, I know, that was always the tried and true way to jump start an economy of old, but the times have changed and industry is now global. So that premise does not work anymore. Obama spent money on things that actually get the industry wheels turning.....you will note that all the "shovel ready" are actually getting people back to work and earning a paycheck. The "clunkers" actually got the line producing again.
So yellowcake has peaceful uses......hhhhmmmmm then maybe it wasn't for WMD's.........You are a freak if you think I believe one thing you type about WMD in Iraq....do you also thing they had something to do with 9-11? Come one answer that one. It will determine whether or not you are just a little nuts or all the way over the edge into crazy land. Congress authorized the war on lies told to the American public by Bush/Cheney/ Wolfawitz.......Powell proved he had balls and a soul by leaving the Bush administration.
Sorry, you right leaners do not have the golden boy touch on the economy anymore.....look what your stinking "free market" did with you guys at the helm....it imploded! Unregulated power hungry greed mongers at just that.....power hungry....greedy....unregulated. I wouldn't allow one of your ilk touch my money at this point.
I love it when you all tell me who I am.....AND GET IT WRONG! I love it when you tell me what I think....AND GET IT WORNG.
I will tell you what I feel and the green-eyed monster has nothing to do with it.....I am not jealous of the rich....crap man I am one of those......what I am sick of is the rich staying rich on the backs of the poor. I am sick of the haves and the have nots, I am sick of seeing the middle class broken, I am sick of people like you that could actually use universal healthcare sticking your head in the sand because of partisan bickering......I am sick of you all being so VERY VERY VERY ignorant and knowing it and not doing anything about it.
August 31, 2009 at 1:54 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
charlestowne2 (anonymous) says...
Msnbc reported the yellow cake in Iraq story July 5, 2008. Yellow cake is not a weapon of mass destruction. By the way, congress never declared war on Iraq. Bush and Chaney fed them enough false information to get "authorization for use of military force" They kept the war going by calling people unpatriotic to not vote to fund the war. Once soldiers were in harms way, he got all the money he needed. The soldiers were supported not the war.
One of the biggest expenses for business is health care. If health care was universally funded like in the rest of the industialized world, we would be better able to compete. Asian and European business can sell for less partly because of their lower health care costs. And they still have higher life expectancy then in the US. When health insurance premiums go up 10% next year, pay raises will be less if at all, jobs with health benefits will be harder to find and more jobs will probably move over seas to cut costs. Businessess would save more money from health care reform then lowering taxes
August 31, 2009 at 2 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Keyesforpres (anonymous) says...
charlestowne2, one of the reasons health insurance is so expensive is gov't has blocked the sale of insurance across state lines.
What is it ppl don't get about "universal health care"? You get DENIED medical treatment under "universal health care". Also, if it is so wonderful, why does Congress exempt themselves from the very bill they are trying to pass?? Not only are there cut off ages as you get older there are cut off ages for being too young. Saw an English woman the other day who tried to get a pap smear at 20 and was told she had to wait until she was 21. When she tried at 21 she was told the age had gone to 23. When she was 23 she was told the age had gone to 25!! She had cervical cancer at 23!! Not sure how she was able to get treated.
I can repost some of the things in the bill (I posted the other day). Did you know they will have direct access to our bank accounts? Our medical records will be kept electronically in DC??
Uranium yellowcake is used to power nuclear power plants and to ENRICH URANIUM FOR NUCLEAR WEAPONS. Anyone who believe Saddam planned on using it for peaceful purposes...well, I have a bridge to sell you.
One of his generals said he personally escorted two (or three) planeloads of WMD's to Syria before the war. He said Saddam had an agreement with Syria that if invasion appeared imminent (we built up forces for many months before going in) he would have it wisked out and sent to Syria.
By the way, Saddam declared war the second he fired on our planes over the Kurdish area. He signed an agreement after the first war. Part of that agreement was our planes would fly over that region to insure he was not attacking the Kurds.
He broke the peace agreement the second he kicked the UN inspectors out when Clinton was president as well.
August 31, 2009 at 2:34 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Feldon_Starns (anonymous) says...
"We can't expect the American People to jump from Capitalism to Communism,
but we can assist their elected leaders in giving them small doses of Socialism,
until they awaken one day to find that they have Communism."
Nikita Khrushchev
August 31, 2009 at 2:37 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
justmetoo (anonymous) says...
Great post Catherine, and yes by the time you got to the end, you can tell where Robert stands. I'm behind you 100% and I'm on Change the Congress 2010..you go girl!!
August 31, 2009 at 2:44 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
JustJennings (anonymous) says...
It is strange that we need such a large congress. Is there any reason we need 535 people with all the accompanying staff and expenses to make new laws?
August 31, 2009 at 2:52 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
charlestowne2 (anonymous) says...
I'm for changing congress in 2010 also. Time to get rid of the rest republicans. We have no need for politicians that knowing lie and refuse to stand up to tell their constituants when they are wrong or use hate speach. The misconceptions they are spreading and the violence they are condoning, is completely dishonest and unamerican. So yes a change in 2010. Oust the rest of the weak kneed just say no republicans!!!!
August 31, 2009 at 3 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
charlestowne2 (anonymous) says...
“It is time to pay attention to us, the people,” Catherine Welborn says. Welborn was one of a countless amount of people who descended on Cannon Park Saturday morning for another Tea Party.
Welborn is just another teabagger. So why is this a story?
August 31, 2009 at 3:14 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
memen99 (anonymous) says...
Charlestontowne2, “Businessess would save more money from health care reform then lowering taxes” How many businesses have you owned? You can’t really believe that! I was half way sold on this health reform before Pres O made that statement about pain medication and end of life counseling. Then, I started checking. Have you read the 1000 pages? And I would bet you elected officials have not either. There is some scary stuff in there. Do you know what has happened in Mass with their State health care?
1st their cost is much higher than ours
2nd the plan was triple over budget the first year and
3rd people cannot get the care and meds they need. You’re right,Keyes!
You have a computer-research it. Call 3 people in Mass and ask them about their State health care and what it has done for them or call a few Canadians (there are really friendly). Or maybe a talk to a Cuban, we seem to have plenty locally.
Do you really think these Asian countries importing all these disposable products have Government Health Care? Quit letting the slanted media think for you. You seem like a smart person – draw you own conclusions from your own research.
August 31, 2009 at 3:19 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
WhatMeWorry (anonymous) says...
Feldon_Starns, I call BS. That supposed quote from Khruschev about America was never made. He never said it. If you don't believe me, try to find the source.
Just another example of the wretched fear-mongering going on.
Put forth some credible information and I'm interested and listening. But I, for one, will not be caught off guard by the BS.
August 31, 2009 at 3:43 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
real_news (anonymous) says...
This is just another case of the Ultimate Con that has been played on American people.
Which can be summed up by this Question:
Health care, is it a Right or Privilege?
To which question that lunatic Demint said, that "It is a privilege..."
This question is a (right-wing) loaded question, or it is an incomplete question.
Because the question is NOT just that:
"Health care, is it a Right or Privilege?"
But 1st the question is:
"Does the Government have a Right or a Privilege to our incomes in form of Taxes?"
The answer is that the Government has a Right to our Income in form of Taxes since
we do not pay Taxes on a voluntary basis but we pay it under the Law and under
the threat of going to Jail if we do not pay our Taxes.
So if the Government has the "Right to our money in form of Taxes" as a result of
which we pay about 40% of our income in various forms of Taxes, from income Taxes,
to property Taxes, to sales Taxes, etc.
THEN we indeed have the RIGHT to get value for our Taxes and the least of these
values is to get the best health care possible for the Taxes that we are paying the Government.
So the best Universal Health Care is indeed a Right of the Citizens, as it has having the best
Military, Police, Fire Department, etc. for the Governments Right to Tax us.
This is something that EVERY European Nation, Canada, Australia, in FACT all Developed
nations have realized and have been practicing but US!
So how is it that ONLY in US the Government has been able to get away with Taxing its Citizens
while not providing us with health care for these Taxes,? The answer is the one of the Ultimate Con
Jobs in the History of man kind has been played on American people by the Republicans,
and Democrats too, for the benefit of the Rich, Big Pharma, Big Corporations who control our
Media and that Ultimate Con Job has been:
"Government cannot do anything...."
"Government is the problem not the solution..."
etc.
Which translated means:
1- You the People cannot do anything since the Government is the representative of the People to decide what
happens to our Taxes
2- Pay Taxes and ask and get nothing for your Taxes such as Universal Health Care.
The result of which Con Job is that our Taxes go to the benefit of the Rich, Big Pharma, Big Corporations, etc. rather
than going to our benefit.
So if this lady and "Tea party.." people want to have the US live within its budget THEN they would be for cutting the US Military budget which is beyond Gargantuan and one of the KEY reasons behind US economy going bankrupt compared to European economies.
For sake of this post not getting 2 long, U can read much more here:
http://www.anoox.com/blog/real_news.a...
August 31, 2009 at 3:47 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
yird (anonymous) says...
charlestowne2 I stand corrected. Even one as blessed with a superior intellect like my self can sometimes err. They still do put erasers on pencils these day now don't they?
...bobbyonetooth was the one who made the comment about blacks being the backbone of the military.
There is so much similarity between you, bobbyonetooth, unrealamerican, youknowsnothing and the rest of the obamatrons that I got twisted about with the names.
It's kind of like the talking points y'all get from moveon.org or MSNBC. All the same.
August 31, 2009 at 4:01 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
BlackReign (anonymous) says...
YouKnowMe, I guess you missed these lies;
"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction."
-- Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002
"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
--President Bill Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998
"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
--President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998
"Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
--Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998
"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
--Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998
"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
-Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998
"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
-- Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999
CLINTON ON WMD
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zp6YmE...
Democrats Used to Say There Were WMD
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yn3tDu...
Then and Now; Democrats Debating Themselves
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Yd2pq...
Pelosi claims Iraq had WMD
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xwDJRB...
Democrats on Iraq's WMD
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i87cZ3...
Watch this video Democrats on Iraq + WMD's
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cwqh4w...
Senate voted 77-23 to authorize President Bush to attack Iraq if Saddam Hussein refuses to give up weapons of mass destruction as required by U.N. resolutions.
Hours earlier, the House approved an identical resolution, 296-133.
http://archives.cnn.com/2002/ALLPOLIT...
http://www.senate.gov/legislative/LIS...
August 31, 2009 at 4:02 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
BlackReign (anonymous) says...
A few more liars for ya;
"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
-- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002
"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
-- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002
"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
-- Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002
"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force -- if necessary -- to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
-- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002
and my personal favorite;
"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members ... It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
-- Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002
August 31, 2009 at 4:04 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
yird (anonymous) says...
real_news,"So if this lady and "Tea party.." people want to have the US live within its budget THEN they would be for cutting the US Military budget which is beyond Gargantuan and one of the KEY reasons behind US economy going bankrupt compared to European economies."
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I'm all for cutting the military budget as it pertains to European ingrates who would all be speaking German or Russian today were it not for the thousands of Americans who perished saving their butts.
"One of the KEY reasons behind US economy going bankrupt compared to European economies." is we have been underwriting their defense for years with our tax dollars.
Do you remember, or if not, have you ever herd of the Marshall Plan? We not only fought for Europe but were also major players in rebuilding it!
August 31, 2009 at 4:14 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
charleston_realist (anonymous) says...
The Clinton administration drastically cut the military budget. After 9/11 the Bush administration had to drastically increase the budget in order to ready the military to defend this country.
During the Bush administration the housing market crashed. And yes the facts are that the Bush admin tried to reign in the financial institutes from risky loaning (put in place under Clinton). The Democrats blocked all efforts.
I understand and agree that Bush did a lot of spending, but to pin it all on him is just not backed by facts.
Congress authorized the war.
Don't let your emotions get in the way of facts.
August 31, 2009 at 4:45 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
real_news (anonymous) says...
charleston_realist, how brain washed are you by the LIES of the right-wing Media in US which is 99% of US Media to say that:
"The Clinton administration drastically cut the military budget"
WHEN US has the most Gargantuan US Military budget on Earth! To see how Gargantuan US Military budget is just consider these facts:
1- US Military budget is larger than Military budget of all other countries on earth combined while today US economy is NOT even 15% of World economy - just do this simple math and you can see that this is unsustainable and this math is bankrupting the American people (middle class). That is for US Military budget to be inline with the size of the US economy compared to the World economy then US Military budget must be 15% of World Military budget since US economy is 15% of World economy which means US Military budget needs to be at $90Bill. Now to see how Gargantuan US Military budget today is at $600Bill consider the FACT that at if US Military budget is cut to $90Bill it will still be the Worlds largest Military budget BY FAR, by factor of 300% in fact since the next largest Military budget is that of the Chinese at about $30Bill.
2- US has 300,000+ troops in Europe and bases in almost ALL European countries, pumping something like 50Bill Euros per year, AT LEAST, of American Tax payers money into European economies as a result of these troops and bases, and here you have Europe which is much richer than US as evident by Euro being so much more valuable than US Dollar as evident by Europeans all having Universal health care, etc. AND here is THE KILLER fact: Europe has No enemy that it cannot easily defend from and crush on its own.
4 sake of this post not getting 2 long, U can read more related here:
http://www.anoox.com/blog/real_news.a...
August 31, 2009 at 5:11 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
charleston_realist (anonymous) says...
It cost money to be the worlds police. It is short sighted to compare the worlds super power and it's defense of freedom to other countries. They are not super powers and do not defend freedom as our military does.
FREEDOM IS NOT FREE.
There is not brain washing here. Just look at the facts. what you cut and paste has nothing to do with Clinton cutting the military budget. Nothing to do with Bush having to increase the spending. Nothing to with the housing market.
Again FREEDOM IS NOT FREE.
August 31, 2009 at 5:29 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
counterpoint (anonymous) says...
...sloshing around in all this kool-aid....
August 31, 2009 at 5:43 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
yird (anonymous) says...
real_news (anonymous) says...
charleston_realist, how brain washed are you by the LIES of the right-wing Media in US which is 99% of US Media to say that:
========================================
You cannot possibly be so stupid as to believe what you wrote about the media.
Of course ABC CBS and NBC are all right wing tools as are CNN and MSNBC.
Keith Olbermann and the hilarious smutty Rachel Maddow are big fans of conservative politicians. I'm sure you remember how they trashed Obama as he was struggling to get his rightful "place in the sun".
Obama caught hell from these media monsters.
Tell us, what planet do you reside on?
August 31, 2009 at 5:59 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
charlestonnative1963 (anonymous) says...
Great, as much as I would love to get rid of Henry the lame horse Brown, I doubt we need some disgruntled lady, who was obviously opposed to BCSD and its need to raise taxes for a decent school system. Am I understanding this correctly, she left Berkeley County because her husband lost an election? I think I would rather have the lame horse. She wants to run on the sam grounds as the tea baggers. WHAT PAID FOR THE ROAD YOU LEFT BERKELEY COUNTY ON TO LIVE IN WEST ASHLEY....DID YOU SAY TAXES. When will SC ever elect sane people to elected positions.
August 31, 2009 at 6:28 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
moonpie (anonymous) says...
Experts see double-digit Democratic losses in 2010 House races Politico – Mon Aug 31
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http://news.yahoo.com/s/politico/2009...
OH YEAH BABY "CHANGE" IS A COMING!
August 31, 2009 at 6:32 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
charlestonnative1963 (anonymous) says...
Do tea baggers pay taxes? How do they go to work if they are always going to anti taxation rallies
August 31, 2009 at 6:32 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
educationboost (anonymous) says...
Our Military budget is not a waste nor is it the cause of our falling economy. I do agree that it is extensive but a lot of that money is spent in our economy and taxed like all other income. What needs to be regulated and reduced is the spending on government contracts. Research is important, but we spend billions each year to have someone tell us what we already knew "in their words". We need to increases our education resources, regulate lottery resources and track spending. Lottery revenue for 1 month can pay the entire budget for Charleston County Schools not considering allocated funds already set aside for education, but we lay off teachers while lottery officials go fishing and our kids are failing. Clemson doesn't fund education research for Title I but they have an agriculture research facility in every county in South Carolina. Put seeds in the dirt and water them.......but they get billions of govt funding for that while teachers who have degrees in major subjects are getting laid off.
August 31, 2009 at 6:35 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Feldon_Starns (anonymous) says...
What Me Worry,
It's has to be true, I read it on the internet!.... Look I really don't have a dog in this hunt, I'm here mainly for the entertainment. But I will say this; I believe it is a mistake to put our government into the business of managing healthcare. Oversight yes....all day long, but not as a provider. Something else too is I can't for the life of me see how these people who comment (on both sides) put so much belief and trust into groups who at the end of the day don't give a damn about them. I believe the President & congress care about as much for me as Exxon and State Farm. It really is comical. And these folks are true belivers! Christ and then the racial deal. What a mess. It's true if you watch tv comercials they cast white males as buffoons or worse. That only feeds the haters in this world. But to read what some of these people write is beyond the pale. Oh, just so you know in the 1970's I had long hair and black friends.....in the South, so I think I can speak from experience. Americans need to now more than ever take stock into who we are and where we are going. Because right now this country is in a hell of a mess and BOTH sides got us there. It's going to take both sides working together to get us out.
August 31, 2009 at 6:54 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
mkris (anonymous) says...
That most Liberal of US Presidents, Eisenhower warned this country about sinking too much money down the hole of the military-industrial complex. Remember military officers today are induistrial salesmen tommorow. Wonder about those contracts?
August 31, 2009 at 6:55 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
yird (anonymous) says...
charlestonnative1963 (anonymous) says...
How do they go to work if they are always going to anti taxation rallies
You know that's a similar question I asked for years about anti-war protesters, G5, 7, and 8 protesters, civil rights protesters, tree hugging protesters and all the leftist loons that marched (well, strolled along mumbling some sort of chants) to shut down a proposed power plant or stop a train carrying nuclear material.
Good question charlestonnative1963.
August 31, 2009 at 7:04 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
pullmyfinger (anonymous) says...
real_news (anonymous) says...
charleston_realist, how brain washed are you by the LIES of the right-wing Media in US which is 99% of US Media
Ok......I want to known how many of you liberals believe that statement.... just say aye
99%??????? WOW What news source do you use then if not the 99% conservative news monopoly like you mentioned?
August 31, 2009 at 7:10 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
RuleNumberOne (anonymous) says...
If anything is evident from the posts here, SC still lags behind in education. Especially the study of history and economics.
August 31, 2009 at 7:25 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
lloyd007 (anonymous) says...
Sounds to me like another Ring-Winged Republican Extremists who's sour because of a loss..Completely UNAMERICAN.!!!
August 31, 2009 at 8:39 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
TraumaDoc1 (anonymous) says...
The Constitution reserves the power to declare war to the Congress. However, Congress has not declared war since World War II. They did not declare war for Korea, Viet Nam, Cambodia, Grenada, Nicaragua, Iraq, Afghanistan, Lebanon, Somalia, Sudan, Kosovo, or any other military conflict since 1941 despite funding the missions. Congress prefers to let the conflict take place, see the results, then claim in hindsight that they were either for or against it depending on the outcome. The closest they come is a resolution like the one for Iraq (Authorization For Use of Military Force Against Iraq (P.L. 107-243)). Prominent members of both parties stood and made speeches supporting the effort because of the "WMD" that Hussein "definitely" had prior to voting for the resolution. The idea of the War Powers Resolution of 1973 was to make the President come to Congress to get permission to use military force against another country for more than 90 days (60 days plus 30 for withdrawal). The only reason Congress wanted or needed the War Powers Resolution was because they had a long history of never making a decision.
September 1, 2009 at 1:52 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
thedarkpolitician (anonymous) says...
Let me get this straight....
Welborn bombs in a Berkeley County race, so they get mad, pack their marbles and look for a new playground - West Ashley. I remember... he was the one who refused to divulge his age for the paper's profile piece, saying it was too personal... Vanity, thy name is Paul!
September 1, 2009 at 9:08 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
thedarkpolitician (anonymous) says...
And Mrs. Welborn...
So now she has jumped on the "throw 'em all out" band wagon. Except her site is as contradictory as she and the Mr. are. It says all members should be replaced but much further down, she mentions a "keeper" list. Schizo!!
September 1, 2009 at 9:09 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
real_news (anonymous) says...
charleston_realist, how brain dead or brain washed are you Republicans to state this non-sense:
" It cost money to be the worlds police..."
If we were the Worlds Police man then the World will be paying us for Policing the World, which means they would be paying us at least for basing our bases in their countries, BUT it is the exact opposite way around. That is we are paying 100s of Billions of Dollars to station our bases all over the World. The world is not paying us 1 Cent in Taxes to Police the World.
What police man do you know that pays Taxes to those who it is protecting!
So we are policing the world only in the mind of lunatic Republicans and the war-mongers who control 99% of US Media, which is why 99% of US Media is so right-wing.
I mean just think about it: US has 300,000+ troops in Europe and bases in almost ALL European countries, pumping something like 50Bill Euros per year, AT LEAST, of American Tax payers money into European economies as a result of these troops and bases, and here you have Europe which is much richer than US as evident by Euro being so much more valuable than US Dollar as evident by Europeans all having Universal health care, etc. AND here is THE KILLER fact: Europe has No enemy that it cannot easily defend from and crush on its own, for if Europe actually needed our troops to defend it from a real enemy THEN European countries will be paying us for having our troops there AND NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND.
For more on 99% of US Media being right-wing which is why it is 2009 and we still do not have Universal health care or we are still in Iraq or have such a Gargantuan Military that we cannot afford, check out:
http://www.anoox.com/blog/real_news.a...
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