James Island council opposes I-526 project
By Edward Fennell
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The James Island Connector terminates at Folly Road, where it would connect to I-526.
In a potentially damaging blow to plans for completing Interstate 526, James Island Town Council voted unanimously to oppose any path taking the interstate through the town.
The vote drew loud applause from most of the 100 or more people who crowded into town hall for a public hearing. The 5-0 vote came after a motion to defer was defeated 3-2.
Councilmen Joe Qualey and Bill "Cubby" Wilder sought to put off a vote until the S.C. Department of Transportation later this month could announce its choices of "six or eight manageable alternatives" for routes, interchange locations and highway types. I-526 Project Manager David Kinard said 38 alternatives, which include doing nothing, are now on the table.
Mayor Mary Clark urged council to waste no more time. "It's unfair if we don't give them direction as to how the town feels about it," she said.
Kinard said the 1970s plan for I-526 showed it with interchanges on Johns and James islands, but funding and other problems delayed its completion. He insisted DOT is evaluating the original idea as well as other options based on current population and traffic needs. He said the most viable alternatives will be unveiled at a series of public forums beginning at 6 p.m. on April 30 at West Ashley High School.
Asked earlier what impact a negative vote by the council might have, a DOT spokesman was noncommittal. "Since a preferred alternative has not been selected, it is premature to speculate on what specific effects an action by the town would have," Stan Shealy wrote in an e-mail.
Among those speaking out against an I-526 extension on James Island was Katherine Williams. "Don't pave paradise," she pleaded.
Opponents maintained I-526 would funnel 40,000 vehicles through the island daily, bringing more traffic congestion, noise and pollution. Marshes and James Island County park would be harmed and pressures to allow more development would arise, they argued.
"This is a tired, wasteful, destructive idea that needs to be retired," said Lisa Jones-Turansky, project manager for the S.C. Coastal Conservation League.
Tom Meteraud spoke in favor of the I-526 project. He cautioned that opponents are "working on emotion," and said traffic problems can't be cured by widening existing roads.
Reach Edward C. Fennell at efennell@postandcourier.com or 937-5560.
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PalmettoDP (anonymous) says...
I don't believe the extention will carry 40,000 cars a day, even ten years after it's built. I'm in the minority on this, but I believe the housing market will take a decade or more to recover. If that's the case, there won't be explosive growth on Johns Island as there was in Mount Pleasant in the 90s and early 2000s. We won't be facing Don Holt Bridge congestion on the extention.
Many opponents could probably be brought on board if the new bridges included separated bike/pedestrian lanes like the Ravenel Bridge. There could even be CARTA park-and-ride service at the Johns Island interchange.
Let's finish the extention, but do it right this time.
April 8, 2009 at 1:43 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
eatmorecollards (anonymous) says...
Good job James Island town council. You have played right into the hands of those that will turn the rest of the non residential areas of James Island into strip malls and tax payer shopping centers.
Maybe there's a silver lining to it though. As the James Island coffers begin to fill up from a commercial tax base, perhaps the Town of James Island will have some money to clean our ditches and patch our roads. Maybe the town can even buy some traffic lights so that we can get out of our neighborhoods and into the through traffic going to Johns Island.
April 8, 2009 at 5:27 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
rx7fury (anonymous) says...
The right decision was made. Hopefully it will stick!!
April 8, 2009 at 6:27 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Eye_on_You (anonymous) says...
Then don't get angry when the traffic jams happen and you can not get home to the loved ones on time......or when the price of gas goes up and you brun it sitting still
April 8, 2009 at 6:46 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
wtpd4444 (anonymous) says...
Four blind mice led by an _ _ _ _ _. You say you are against traffic congestion but you vote for it. MIMI (Boathouse)
The people who want to come to James Island will get here without 526. Did you notice last Sat.
James Island does not have a traffic problem Johns Island does so it uses James Island for it way to Charleston. We have traffic light which keeps them on James Island longer.
We waited too late to become a town and now we are going to wait too late to fix our traffic.
What time does the mayor go to work off the island?
What time does the mayor come home at night?
She doesn't!!!!
April 8, 2009 at 8:02 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
ln1959 (anonymous) says...
Good job James Island township. Katherine Williams is correct, but she should have said "Stop paving over paradise,"
April 8, 2009 at 8:05 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Zod (anonymous) says...
If one were to take a poll in North Charleston, Summerville, Jedburg, and Ridgeville - I'd betcha 100 bucks that they all would dispute I26 being built near them too.
How'd ya like to travel Highway 176 to Columbia again?
April 8, 2009 at 8:19 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
charlestonian (anonymous) says...
Build it... The James Island vote is meaningless, they are powerless. If the state comes in a says we are building the highway they can't do anything about it. So they ought to turn there attention to things that are under there control that they can fix.
April 8, 2009 at 8:42 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
icbmman (anonymous) says...
Wow. How totally expected. Should we expect less from the uninformed, imbecilic rednecks and hippies of JI who voted for this pseudo-town's creation in the first place? Here's another question: if the extension doesn't even traverse through "town" limits, why should they even be allowed to vote on it? In reality, this vote was a feel-good gesture that is absolutely meaningless, considering that the pseudo-town has almost zero political power, and its incorporation is still in limbo, awaiting a decision from the state supreme court.
I love how a crowd of 100 is portrayed as some massive community rejoicing...as the P&C continues to dabble with its blatant bias. Meanwhile, the P&C doesn't talk to the TENS OF THOUSANDS of commuters stuck in traffic on US 17 West Ashley, Maybank Highway on James and Johns Island, and Folly Road...the working class people who WANT the I-526 extension completed, as it was planned almost 4 DECADES ago.
April 8, 2009 at 8:57 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
postman01 (anonymous) says...
icbmman is correct. The only trhing he didn't mention (I'm sure he understands it) is the concept of parasitism.
SUPERIOR REAL AMERICANS like me and icbmman form the vast majority in the lowcountry and nationwide. If we didn't, America would be an inferior third world nation instead of the greatest nation Earth has ever known.
Now, people like us have got to stop being nice and move against the parasites. Parasitism is a trait of the animal kingdom that is unacceptable amongst intelligent beings who have the ability to know better and do better. It is time to confront this PRIMITIVE THROWBACK PARADIGM and use our intelligence to neutralize the parasites. We've got to stop feeling guilty and being tentative. As Glenn Beck says, we surround them. We can use something as basic as strength in numbers to relegate them to irrelevance and the time is now.
April 8, 2009 at 9:33 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
JC (anonymous) says...
If Mary Clark is against it, then it must be the right thing to do - BUILD IT!
April 8, 2009 at 10:04 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
verbose1 (anonymous) says...
For all those for the extension ... where do you live?
My bet is that you are not in the path of the extension.
Are James Islanders really that uninformed? Perhaps our opposition is due to the air and noise pollution we would experience as a result of this extension running through our town and neighborhoods.
Have you taken a moment to consider how this will affect those who live in the surrounding communities, and the potential affect it will have on property values to people who are already suffering in this challenging economy?
Have you thought about how this will affect the property values of those who do not live by a highway now, but will have a major noisy highway perhaps in their backyard?
Are you willing to pay us - out of your pocket - fair market value for our properties so we may relocate away from the highway?
Please, inform us of your location so we can propose a major highway construction project to run right next to your house so you, your spouse, your children, and your pets can breath the same polluted air that we would experience should this extension pass. Maybe then, and only then will you understand first hand the 'ignorant' James Islanders. We wouldn't want to keep the air and noise pollution all to ourselves.
They should have built this road years ago before the development so potential property owners could make informed choices about their residence.
I guess if this extension displaces some poor natives and other citizens no one cares because they don't pay enough taxes or they don't have a right to clean air.
The selfish, one-sided thinking of some is disheartening, but certainly expected.
April 8, 2009 at 10:21 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
amembersid (anonymous) says...
I wonder how many of the "100 or more people" use the James Island connector to get to and fro. Wasn't the connector built with all our money for all to use in the end, not just JI'S.
April 8, 2009 at 10:33 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
pascha (anonymous) says...
If you don't believe that it would carry 40,000 cars per day, then read the BCDCOG study that says it will.
Even if it were half that, where are all those cars going to go? Do you really think Calhoun street could handle them?
People love to complain about taxes and traffic, but really...traffic is NOT that bad on James Island. I grew up in Summerville and I saw it explode because of lack of planning and now I-26 is a parking lot every morning.
Does anyone really want Folly road to turn into Ashley Phosphate? Not I.
>Charlestonian: We shall see what the impact of their resolution is, but it is surely not meaninless.
April 8, 2009 at 10:34 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
downtownguy (anonymous) says...
I am against extending 526 as it now is planned. Perhaps if it was a tree-lined boulevard with bike/pedestrian paths and more sensitive to its surrounding environment, then I could support it. Nobody has explained where all that extra traffic is going to go when 526 dumps on Calhoun St. It's already a mess right now. Imagine what it will be like with an interstate ending on the street.
April 8, 2009 at 10:41 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
charlestonian (anonymous) says...
I am on Johns Island and I am for it. Do you really think the highway is going to cause more pollution? If anything it should result in better air quality. Right now you have lines of cars sitting in traffic on the local streets in front of peoples houses and yards. Get rid of that gridlock and you now have people whizzing by above the city, the local streets are now just the local JI traffic.
April 8, 2009 at 10:46 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
icbmman (anonymous) says...
Postman, great observation. I have no doubt that there were many parasites at the council meeting; the council itself is a group of parasites, as well as the bureaucratic entity of the pseudo-town itself.
The people who are prognosticating huge portions of traffic that will be dumped onto JI are really lacking any sense of logistics and geography. Where, pray tell, do they think the traffic on Folly Road originates? It originates from cars driving to Johns Island or Folly Beach from West Ashley, downtown, Mt. P, and the north area; the only way to reach the destinations the "quickest" is through James Island. There is no direct route to Johns Island from almost the entirety of the metro area.
Once I-526 is completed, traffic going to Johns Island or Folly Beach will be re-routed, AWAY from the current streets of James Island (with the exception of Folly Road, the only route to the beach). Instead of going through the island, the traffic will BYPASS the commercial and residential streets of JI. It actually WILL help alleviate traffic flow. What the pseudo-town council has voted for is to maintain the status quo! Evidently, they like traffic on their island to be frustrating and stagnated.
Indeed, the supporters of I-526 should not be tentative or quiet to these obstructionists for progress. It's time for this beltway to be FINISHED and connect the metro area. Build it!
April 8, 2009 at 11:58 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Numba10 (anonymous) says...
Always the same not in my backyard.---But did u ever notice the roads you use each day are next to someone elses backyard. What if they said no you cant use this road to get where you wish cause they were tired of you passing by. This is the idiocy of the my backyard argument. We all use roads and roads will always expand or you will sit idling in traffic.----Oh yeah Folly Road is worse than Dorchester!
April 8, 2009 at 12:53 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
hipchick (anonymous) says...
Why did we build a "the connector" if it's not connected to anything? It alleviates some of the traffic from the Wapoo Cut Bridge which is advantageous to the Johns Islanders using Maybank to get to downtown. I-526 runs from West Ashley to Mt. Pleasant, given them easy access to each other & to North Charleston. In the meantime, James Islanders have to fight traffic to get anywhere in this town or beyond. Finish it already...it's stupid not to.
April 8, 2009 at 1:16 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
verbose1 (anonymous) says...
Charlestonian - your "logic" is ludicrous! What is your expertise on air quality? Do you work for the DOT?
Numba10 - So, where do you live? Not anywhere near any of the 38 proposed extension most likely.
Sure, everyone lives on a street and sometimes there is slow traffic on those streets during rush hour. However, if one has lived in a house with no highway in their backyard for years and then there was a proposal to put a highway in your back or front yard, you would object to it with all your soul. It will affect one's quality of life AND property values.
If you think this project is so great, please tell us the neighborhoods in which you reside so we may contact the highway department to suggest options that run in your back or front yard. We wouldn't want to you to miss out on the special highway view, the noise, and pollution you are so willing to push on others.
Many of us may change our minds if it didn't somehow directly affect us.
April 8, 2009 at 1:42 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
CompostandWourier (anonymous) says...
Verbose1,
When did you move to an area that may be affected by the proposed completion. If it was after 1972 you have NO right to complain. If it was before you have had at least 37 years to adjust.
There seems to be a disconnect with logic when it comes to traffic. Population will continue to expand wether we build the roads or not. The same (ever increasing) number of people will be travelling. We can either plan and build for it or we can deal with gridlock, extended commutes, and increased pollution. I say lets prepare for the future.
April 8, 2009 at 2:23 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
PHiers (anonymous) says...
These folks sound just like the SOB's (that's South of Broaders) of years ago who fought tooth and nail against the construction of the James Island connector. Do any of you remember that fight and how long it took to get the bridge constructed because of that small but very vocal group? It took decades because of those dissenters. Who would have ever thought that a small group of James and Johns Islanders would sound so much like the folks across the river.
This is not an extension, it is a planned but unfortunately postponed completion that every one has known about since the initial planning of I-526.
Any one of you who thinks that CARTA is the answer to any of our traffic woes needs to think again. Here are just a few reasons CARTA doesn't work for most of us: 1) many residents live miles away from any of the CARTA routes, 2) many of the large employers are located miles away from any of the CARTA routes, 3) many parents have to transport their children to school, and 4) many employees have to have their vehicles for work.
I wonder how many of the dissenters have seen the current traffic congestion along Savannah Hwy, St Andrews Blvd, S. Windemere area of Folly Rd, etc. It is as bad as it was before the James Island connector was built.
Charleston County, SC DOT, PLEASE FINISH I-526! Consider it a job stimulus project!
April 8, 2009 at 2:40 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
verbose1 (anonymous) says...
I have every right to voice my concerns and will continue to do as much as I see fit. When I moved into this area I did not know about this "completion project". It's not like realtors disclose these kinds of things to potential buyers (might lose a sale) and it wasn't in the newspaper or TV at the time.
So I will ask yet again. Where do you live? I will happy to spend a lot of time advocating that a highway be built in YOUR front yard to alleviate perceived traffic concerns. What did you do to voice your opposition concerning the unsustainable growth and development that has occurred in this area over the years? If you don't like the traffic - move.
Take a look at an aerial map of when this was proposed 37 years ago and now. How many people do you think will be adversely directly affected by this project? Oh yeah, I forgot. You don't care cause it's not in your backyard.
April 8, 2009 at 3:02 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
dbs01 (anonymous) says...
Yeah JI. This highway is a terrible idea to help developers and the jet setters of kiawah. Never under estimate us hippies and rednecks.
For icbmman and postman, you a little men with little brains who are capable of only little selfish actions. Go back to your glen beck paranoid delusional world and let us real men make the decisions. Just because mummy and daddy left you a few bucks doesn't mean you are worth squat.
April 8, 2009 at 3:31 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Numba10 (anonymous) says...
to verbose---i grew up when only the dual lanes went to charleston---now I-26 which we welcomed for the better jobs it has brought is in my backyard------I am a born and raised SC'n---
April 8, 2009 at 4:24 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
charlestonian (anonymous) says...
Verbose: How could you possibly think that pollution will rise on James Island with 526? Have you ever seen one of those 300k mile ex police/taxi Crown Vics billowing smoke as it takes off between lights? So that car billowing smoke will be sitting in traffic for 20 minutes trying to get across James Island on the local congested streets. Take that same car and it travel across James Island above the city for say 5 minutes. So what is your logic for saying that it will increase pollution? A car is also more emissions efficient at highway speeds, especially a poorly tuned ones, and older cars with air injection type catalytic systems.
For the JI resident that didn't know about it. About 5 years ago I was in a James Island real estate office and they had a big map on the wall of JI and the route of the future 526 highlighted. So there are some honest agencies out there.
April 8, 2009 at 4:35 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
icbmman (anonymous) says...
dbs01, such ignorance and idiocy remains consistent with the responses of you and people of your caliber. I notice that you cannot refute postman's or my arguments, nor can you refute other common sense posts here from people like charlestonian and Numba10. You can't come up with a logical argument for ANY of these posters, so you just throw out insults and use typical liberal talking points.
It is sad and pathetic, but it is the expected response from people like you. You have given nothing in terms of real solutions or suitable alternatives. "Real men"?! Thanks for the laugh.
April 8, 2009 at 5:23 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
bpwnz (anonymous) says...
Just wait for the next real hurricane evacuation. All the anti-builders can be washed out to sea because some fender-bender on folly rd or maybank hwy has traffic backed up in all directions for 5 miles.
April 8, 2009 at 6:22 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
YankeeLady (anonymous) says...
Is anyone who is pro I-526 willing to live in the shadow of the underpass as it roars over the marshes and neighborhoods of James Island? Are any of these folks willing to sacrifice their property values so one of them can MAYBE get to Costco a few minutes faster (doubt it would happen anyway). Any of you want to live where you hear, see and smell trucks, cars and buses 24/7? What is it about large, concrete structures that have so much appeal? Perhaps they mimic the etched in stone mindsets of those who can't think out of the 40-year old box and imagine that there are indeed other solutions that don't require a massive roadway that doesn't help anyone, anything, for anytime. Get it?
April 8, 2009 at 6:26 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Zod (anonymous) says...
Yankeelady.....
You asked a question and I will give you a response to that question. Take a look at the residents of Daniel Island. Without 526, there is no "Island Town". People are paying a million dollars for a house in the shadow of 526. Better yet, they are paying half a million for a unit within a building that will stare directly at the concrete structure. Have you checked the prices of new units bordering Lockwood Blvd?
You speak of ill effects of change. What you have disregarded in your painted picture is the fact that most residences built by interstates were shanties from their very foundation. The fact is that few live in the "shadow" of the extension. Few live in the path of this progress as MANY knew the progress would eventually arrive. Those who moved into the path of progress within the latest real estate boom were ignorant and if ignorance is your defense - you do not deserve to be heard.
April 8, 2009 at 9 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
icbmman (anonymous) says...
HeHateMe_bro, maybe you should take your own advice. Project much? And calling me an "internet troll" is a dubious observation, given the amount of comments I've posted on this website. You are aware that a "troll" is a term for an internet poster who writes vindictive, bating remarks that are completely off-topic usually to incite anger? Who does that here on these threads?
.......Me thinks you should take a long, hard look in the mirror, if you can stand it.
Zod, an excellent post; well said. I highly doubt that YankeeLady or others will respond with any corresponding intelligence.
April 8, 2009 at 9:32 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
YankeeLady (anonymous) says...
Zod et al - Take a look at the projected paths of this unnecessary behemoth and you'll see that many transect existing neighborhoods. It makes no difference whether it's the homes of shanty- or mansion-dwellers that are disrupted - either way, people lose their quality of life. What's this BS about moving into "the path of progress"? There are now 38 alternatives proposed for this project - did they pass out crystal balls to everyone who has bought property on John's and James Island over the past 10-15 years? Did we all knowingly throw ourselves into the path of your misguided idea of progress?
Answer another question - do YOU want to live next to an overpass? Good luck to anyone who wants to pay a half million dollars in that situation. Many of us have chosen not to live next to a freeway and don't relish the idea of having one thrust upon us. This project has overwhelming negatives associated with it, and there are better ways to look at this problem.
So, with your analogy of the "Island Town", then we can all infer that building this monstrous I-526 will indeed result in further development of other "island towns" or other enclaves on John's Island and elsewhere? Admit it - development will indeed follow construction of this road, and create further traffic problems, making the road obsolete before it's completed. Guess it's a bad idea.
April 8, 2009 at 10:12 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
nighttrain (anonymous) says...
"The applause of a 100 or more concerned citizens".... what a joke. This is obviously a shovel ready project for stimulus money and needs to be completed. It's always a bad serving of government cheese when they sketch a highway through your backyard but you can't have it both ways. The extension of I-526 will lessen the idle time of many thousands of automobiles otherwise stuck at traffic lights thus eliminating incredible amounts of emissions. Check the SCDOT studies and take your medicine.
April 9, 2009 at 12:27 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
CompostandWourier (anonymous) says...
Vernose,
How could you make as important a decision as buying real estate without checking. Ignorance is no excuse.
April 9, 2009 at 6:56 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
YankeeLady (anonymous) says...
None of those in favor actually LIVE where this destruction would take place. Who are you to tell those in opposition to take their medicine, shut up and enjoy the noise and fumes?
April 9, 2009 at 9:53 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
pullmyfinger (anonymous) says...
WOW You James Islanders think they have the right to behave like a little brat now they are a town with a bunch of half wits with nothing to do on their council.
Mt. P. west ashley, N.Chuck, Daniel Island has sacrificed their land for 526 and now its your time to pony up. Quit whining. The surrounding areas need this to be completed. The traffic on folly rd. and maybank is horrible and no other solution will correct it, you know it, I know and the majority of this county knows it. Just try to imagine living in Charleston without 526. What a nightmare the traffic would be! Would you still fight building it then? Then you should move to manning and worry about meth stills.
April 9, 2009 at 10:11 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
iceman1978 (anonymous) says...
I have very mixed feelings on this issue. On one hand I'm against it because I do think it would bring further development to John's Island, which would mean even more traffic. Should John's Island become like Mount Pleasant then we would be having this conversation all over again in a few years. I-26 has been widened all the way to Summerville and it's still a parking lot every morning. Making I-26 into six lanes hasn't solved the traffic problem for the north area, and extending 526 won't solve this one either. When I lived in Goose Creek I was ten miles from work and it took me anywhere from 45 minutes to one hour to get to work. Now I live on James Island, and my commute is twice the distance, but it takes just 30 minutes.
Contrary to what a lot of people have said, 526 (when completed) will not be a beltway. A beltway is highway that runs into a continuous loop. Atlanta, Washington DC, Houston, Columbus OH, Denver and Charlotte come to mind here. Some of these cities have traffic problems that would make ours seem like a Sunday drive.
The traffic that currently empties out at Calhoun St is mostly from James Island. West Ashley takes 17 and I'm guessing that much of John's Island does too since the Maybank runs closer to it. Under the proposal to extend 526, we would now have traffic from James Island, John's Island and West Ashley running into downtown at Calhoun St. Imagine that at rush hour. The congestion is bad enough as it is.
I haven't made up my mind yet, but I do think there are issues that need to be considered.
1) How will they deal with the increased traffic going to Calhoun St? 526 will not connect into the Crosstown so this will become an issue.
2) It is often argued that this will mean a faster evacuation in the event of a hurricane. What it will really mean is a faster way of getting to I-26. Anyone who remembers Floyd knows how well that went. Would it really help people to leave town if all this means is a faster route to a parking lot?
3) Have they considered park-and-ride to help commuters from the suburbs to go downtown? On James Island they could use the Buffalo South parking lot and have two bus routes. One could shuttle people from JI to the medical district and the Citadel, and the other could go to King St and East Bay. That would cover thousands of downtown workers when you consider how many are employed at the above places.
4) Why not improve the existing infrastructure first? We keep building more roads all over town as more development moves in, but we let the existing roads become infested with potholes. What is the reason for this?
5) Perhaps they could extend it to John's Island first, and leave the option on the table to complete it to James Island. If extending it only to John's Island would alleviate traffic in West Ashley then perhaps the rest would not be necessary.
April 9, 2009 at 11:23 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
iceman1978 (anonymous) says...
(contd) 3,000 letter maximum
James Island doesn't need this and most of us, myself included, don't want it. Folly Rd does get congested, particularly in the summer with tourists, but it's not nearly as bad as what I went through in the north area. The only time that traffic has been horrendous is when people are trying to get to the beaches on Labor Day or the 4th of July. Other than that, I don't consider James Island to have a traffic problem. This would probably mean a faster commute to W Ashley and N Charleston, but possibly a much more congested way into downtown.
April 9, 2009 at 11:23 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
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