Gas signs pump up rumors

toughtko (anonymous) says...

The approaching hurricane surely doesn't help the situation

Looks like everyone is reporting gloom and doom
http://enuws.com/money-minute-gas-oil...

September 12, 2008 at 12:43 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

ForPnC (anonymous) says...

Ah yes... Paranoia strikes again...

September 12, 2008 at 3:54 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

gococks1985 (anonymous) says...

Well just for the record, I was one of those who "topped" off because of that rumor. I watched the gas prices rise 40 cents in one day, ok, in less than 3 hours. I still saved that much money regardless of the rumor...

September 12, 2008 at 5:37 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

moonpie (anonymous) says...

"gococks" me too and I saw the price rise .45 cents. So I too saved somemoney but it amazes me that this is allowed to go on in the industry. If our petroleum business is that voliatle we're in big trouble. And guess what our terroist friends went after the wrong thing 7 yrs ago! If a rumor of refinery shutdowns in preperation of a storm can cause this....? This is gouging by the way and the stores that went to over $4 and $5 a gallon should be prosecuted. We have laws against this but like immigration we need someone with some nuts to enforce them.

September 12, 2008 at 6:13 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Lois_Lane (anonymous) says...

Well I was one of those trapped in a long line, just trying to get enough gas to get me to where I was going and back again. Because I was broke I only needed a bit more gas till payday on Friday. Thus frustration set in because of the panic-stricken individuals who were so paranoid. Jeez. Wow. At 20 gallons you save $8 if it went up another 40 cents, (if you were to get that much gas.) Wow. What a deal. You waste more than that by going grocery shopping when you're hungry. The long lines were funny too. Hey, while you're at the gas station hogging the pump why don't you go inside and grab all the water too?

September 12, 2008 at 6:17 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Lois_Lane (anonymous) says...

Hey moonpie, I heard how we can solve three problems facing America. Problem 1: Illegal immigration. Problem 2: Lack of levee support in Louisiana and Problem 3: Too many gators. Solution - Dig a moat along the United States/Mexican border, take the dirt to Louisiana, fill the moat with all the extra gators. Makes sense to me!

September 12, 2008 at 6:21 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

tc1 (anonymous) says...

"If our petroleum business is that voliatle we're in big trouble. And guess what our terroist friends went after the wrong thing 7 yrs ago!"

It is and will be for many years even if we immeadiately do something sensible, which we won't. Yes they did. Backpack bombs in a relatively few places of our refineries, power grids, wall street and communications centers would have this country, and the rest of the world, not on our knees but flat on our back.

September 12, 2008 at 6:29 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

buckleylover1989 (anonymous) says...

OH my, we also have an earthquake warning you better go outside and cover your head!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

September 12, 2008 at 6:35 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

DanniD (anonymous) says...

the gas stations put those signs up knowing full well that people would freak out, and buy a bunch of gas. I wonder how many gas stations ran out of gas.

The weird thing was that they same thing was happening on 11 Sept 7 years ago, everyone was getting gas because they weren't sure what was going to happen.

September 12, 2008 at 6:45 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

DoaMM (anonymous) says...

...and as folks waited in those long lines that extended out into the road, delaying traffic right and left, I pedaled my bike right past everyone at every gas station...laughing all the way home!

In the infinite words of Bugs Bunny..."What a bunch of Maroons!"

September 12, 2008 at 6:53 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

DanniD (anonymous) says...

the prices are still the same this morning as they were yesterday...geesh

September 12, 2008 at 7:14 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

sailingrum (anonymous) says...

More Bugs...."Run for the hills, folks, or you'll be up to your armpits in" morons trying to fill up b/c of the mass hysteria!!!

September 12, 2008 at 7:15 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Ella_Menneau (anonymous) says...

Oh give me a break--people should only get 10 gallons to save some for people who want to go to a game?! How about people who need gas to get to WORK! Ridiculous!

September 12, 2008 at 7:16 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

kma71 (anonymous) says...

I live in North Charleston and I work on John's Island. Up by my house this morning, gas was $3.49/ gal. In west ashley I saw 2 prices, $3.69 and $3.89 and on James Island it was $3.59. A pretty big difference for different parts of town.

September 12, 2008 at 7:16 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

dogwoodroad (anonymous) says...

so, I went to get gas yesterday because of the rumor, too...this morning the gas price was exactly the same at the gas station...oh well - at least I know I would have had to get gas by Monday anyway! I think the politicians are getting a kick out of watching the panic ensue...that way, whenever they DO get around to fixing things, everyone will praise them for their magnanimous efforts...

September 12, 2008 at 7:21 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

UrGatorbait (anonymous) says...

Yesterday just reaffirmed why this state has the lowest ranking in education.

Uniformed, lazy consumers who want the government to control everything for them because, well, they are too lazy to think and act for themselves.

The panic yesterday artificially inflated prices in the local area, so yes, you were going to have stations raising prices. It's called capitalism, embrace it, understand it or get out of the way. It's simple economics but this is South Carolina and for that matter, the lower part of the USA, home of the lazy American. It goes way beyond backpack bombs but it's simple so I'll leave some of you to it. Simple things like economics and thinking critically are not as important as self. Yesterday proved it.
No wonder we get Bush, McC and Uhbama, the political hacks we have now and remain dependent on oil. Some get what they deserve.

Remaining dependent on the government to solve your problems is a loser's bet.

September 12, 2008 at 7:35 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

my_2_cents (anonymous) says...

And you wonder why this state ranks almost last in education.....

I received an email the world is going to end in a few weeks, I wish I hadn't deleted it.....

September 12, 2008 at 7:35 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

tc1 (anonymous) says...

For the younger of those of you who were in those lines yesterday, for whatever reason, panic or need I want you to know this:

In the 70's when the middle east turned off the oil for the US life was like that 24/7. You could only get usually 5 gallons at a time after sitting in those lines for at least an hour. It wasn't a request and they didn't care if you were on the way to the hospital. You had to sit in that line for long periods, you were thankful for every drop you could get at any price. Start thinking about that.

September 12, 2008 at 7:42 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

jca (anonymous) says...

how do you report price gouging anyway the station by my house is always 30 cents higher. drives alot of people mad

gas prices are the same here that they have been all week.

September 12, 2008 at 7:44 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

flowergirl (anonymous) says...

Yesterday morning I passed the Sunoco located at I-26 and College Park Road. Regular gas was $3.499/gal. That was at 7 am. Last night my husband took my car to fill it up for me at $3.699/gal. This morning when I passed the station gas was $3.959/gal. Is a $0.46 jump in 24 hours really necessary? It was the signs asking people to limit their intake that started all of this. Ike hasn't even done any damamge and the oil companies are already starting to gouge us. I thought this was illegal? Where's Henry Brown when you need him???

September 12, 2008 at 7:46 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Tammie (anonymous) says...

I was one of the ones who got the emails and the text messages about "You'd better fill up tonight, gas is going to be $5 a gallon when you wake up tomorrow!" I live on Johns Island, when I went home, it was $3.49 at Hess on Maybank...woke up and drove past the same Hess and whaddya know...It's STILL $3.49!!! *Le gasp!!!*

Although, the Sunoco on Maybank DID go up $.20 overnight. I just didn't panic. Remember Hurricane Floyd??

September 12, 2008 at 7:50 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

DoaMM (anonymous) says...

It's retarded to panic. Tomorrow's another day and the prices will either be high, low, or the same as they are today. You gotta get gas REGARDLESS of the price, right? If it goes up to $5.00/gallon you're still gonna pay it, right? So what's the difference if you buy it today or tomorrow or a week from now?

Stop giving in to all the hype. You're stressing yourselves out for no reason.

September 12, 2008 at 8:01 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

coolfreaknbeans (anonymous) says...

Whats ridiculous is this is price gouging.The fuel the gas station has is in the ground,is already paid for.That fuels price hasnt went up.In other words one day you pay $3.49 and I go later that day and have to pay $3.89 for the EXACT same gas.Yet they get away with this?Someone needs to put a stop to this.

September 12, 2008 at 8:09 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

blswb3 (anonymous) says...

This feeding frenzy was aided and abetted by the media - my favorite radio station had a DJ announce the rumor and spend some time reflecting on it...just to make sure that anyone who wasn't already panicked would be. I have heard that there were many other stations who did the same thing. I was driving down the road when she made her annouincement and - at that time - the gas stations seemed to be doing normal business. Witnin a few hours - the stations were crammed! In my opinion, it is not good journalism to report rumors just because they will stir emotion. People are already stretched about as thin as they can get emotionally (and financially)! The responsible thing to do would be research the situation, find out whether or not the rumor carried any truth, and then report the facts.

September 12, 2008 at 8:09 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Tammie (anonymous) says...

Beans, did you see in Sumter that gas is over $5 per gallon? That's ridiculous.

September 12, 2008 at 8:15 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

ln1959 (anonymous) says...

As I have stated before, when the drilling off the cost of SC, FL, GA, NC, VA and so on starts, there will be real panic every June through September. If you thing gas price jump now,wait and see what happens then.

As soon as they say its a storm in the Atlantic, gas price is going to go up, cause they have to close the refineries.

All the American people can do is pay the price and watch the fat cat oil guys smile and laugh there way to the bank.

Here in Northern Virginia, I am watching the price go up everyday. I left for work yesterday morning and the gas was 3.399/gal. Came home from work and the gas is 3.459/gal. Got up this morning and its 3.639/gal. Glad I drive a rice burner.

September 12, 2008 at 8:16 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

DoaMM (anonymous) says...

J_C...do your turds come in doggie bags or do we need to hand carry them from your place?

Do you have a selection of "warm and soft" and "cold and hard"?

I'm kinda picky, man...

September 12, 2008 at 8:25 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

DoaMM (anonymous) says...

Ooooo! Bird seed!!

September 12, 2008 at 8:38 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

summerville_guy (anonymous) says...

James, you might need to check with your phone company. I called 1-800-dumb-azz to place an order and was told it was not a working number. Can I fax an order in?

September 12, 2008 at 8:39 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

guidedbystewart (anonymous) says...

The real critical situation is our dependence on oil, period, a nonrenewable resource.

September 12, 2008 at 8:49 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Tammie (anonymous) says...

DoaMM and JCC...I like my poop looking like fresh ash, the cured version. I know that's a custom order so please let me know how much of a deposit I have to put down in order to have it by Neverwary 32nd. Thanks.

September 12, 2008 at 8:52 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

VMI90 (anonymous) says...

Capitalism is a good thing, when you have suitable alternative products in the marketplace. Gasoline, as some of you have failed to mention, is an inelastic product, in which an increase in price (for the most part) does not reduce demand, so let's drop this "its capitalism, accept it, or get out of the way".

September 12, 2008 at 8:53 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

VMI90 (anonymous) says...

GBS and others, yes we do need to break our dependence on oil, period. We have had the technology for decades, yet our automakers have chosen to continue to produce gas guzzlers, not truly pursue any alternative type of engines, ie, hybrid, electric, etc., until we are in a crisis. Sure, maybe offshore drilling will help (I believe very marginally, however). The answer in the long haul is solar, electric, hydrogen fuel cells, and nuclear.

September 12, 2008 at 8:58 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

DoaMM (anonymous) says...

lol, tammie...yeah, I imagine that would be a real special order. To get fecal matter to that state you'd have to get it real fresh and then put it in a place exposed to the air, but also where the bugs and maggots couldn't get to it. You'd also have to spritz it once a week with water and urine to ensure the best ashen color.

Alright, I just threw up a little bit typing that...

J_C, you're mind is warped, son. Why'd you bring the poop store to my attention? You know I'm only gonna run with it...

September 12, 2008 at 9 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

LadyTarHeel (anonymous) says...

The lines were a little out of hand last night. I stopped to top my tank off so I wouldn't have to leave my apartment this weekend (a lot of homework) and I had to go to about 3 stations before I found one that wasn't over loaded with people trying to get gas. Unfortunately, it didn't have any regular or mid-grade. I remember when Katrina hit and there was rumor going around Fayetteville that all the gas stations were going to shut down at 5. People got up and left class to put gas in their car and the gas stations didn't even close.

September 12, 2008 at 9:02 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Tammie (anonymous) says...

LTH, they panicked with the same thing with Hurricanes Floyd and Katrina, and 9/11. I wont say that I am not worried about gas going up eventually, I just don't panic like some people. The lines around town at various gas stations were ree-diculous. But I still let out a little chuckle at the Chicken Littles who called, emailed, and sent me text messages.

September 12, 2008 at 9:09 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

RTC (anonymous) says...

This is ridiculous. A preview of Channel 5 news last night had a reporter saying that a local gas station was going to go up to $5 a gallon.
Someone even told me that they witnessed a fistfight over a pump at the Sunoco on Johnnie Dodds Blvd. yesterday.
Leaving Sam's Club yesterday afternoon we saw a long line at the pumps.
People need to calm down.

September 12, 2008 at 9:13 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

VMI90 (anonymous) says...

JC, I never said we shouldn't drill- I just said it is not the entire answer. We are looking at things strictly from the supply side. We should also address demand- More mass transit, higher MPG requirements, lower CAFE standards as well. Those things coupled with alternative energy, is the way to go. People scoff at hybrid, hydrogen, and electric technology, although those coupled with nuclear technology, while slowly weaning off of oil is the way to go, IMO.

September 12, 2008 at 9:15 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

suec (anonymous) says...

Tammie, talk to some of the people who laughed at the "chicken littles" before Hugo. They were the ones lined up at the pumps (being run by generator) begging for gas in the aftermath. My Dad told me I'd better fill up then. I thought he was being "chicken little". Glad I listened to him anyway.

I say "better safe than sorry".

September 12, 2008 at 9:19 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

wjhamilton3 (anonymous) says...

Obviously people don't trust the Bush administration and they're scared. If he had moved to limit our dependence on oil and redeploy refinery capacity inland where it would be safer from Hurricanes, we would be more secure today. If we had begun a major effort to transition transportation to alternative fuels and power sources after 9-11, we wouldn't be subject to panics now. Just topping off the 100 million gasoline tanks in the US is a huge drain on reserves. People trying to keep their vehicles 3/4 full all the time is a huge waste of time. Soon they'll be storing up cans of gas in their garages again, just like in 1973, which isn't really safe. You don't want to put six month old gasoline that you've stored in a plastic container into your car unless you have to. It's a lot more particular than your lawnmower about the quality of fuel it gets.

CARTA is running nearly full on it's express routes. We really need to increase our transit system's capacity. If we really hit the wall, yesterday's panic will look like a joke.

Gasoline isn't going to last forever. By the time the ANWAR and continental shelf are producing, the amount of oil coming out of older fields in Texas, California and the Gulf of Mexico will probably have fallen off so much that the new oil won't replace the lost production.

We need public transit, supportable electric, alternative fuels and communities which allow us to drive less.

We'll get all of that some day, but we'll probably have to build it during a depression caused by an energy crisis and after we're broke and exhausted by the Bush/McCain war policies.

So who really wants to start a land war against Russia for the sake of Georgia? Can anyone here tell me who over there started shooting first, this time or any time in the last 200 years? Mrs. Palin's ready to go. I'm not so sure.

September 12, 2008 at 9:21 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Zod (anonymous) says...

Sheep,

Local petroleum arrives by ship from a refinery in the Bahamas.

West of I-95 receives petroleum from the pipeline that runs from Louisiana to Atlanta to Columbia and on up the eastern seaboard.

September 12, 2008 at 9:23 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

VMI90 (anonymous) says...

MARTA is certainly the exception- I too lived in ATL in the 90's, but the model to use is Northern VA...works like a charm, efficient, clean, and cheap.

September 12, 2008 at 9:23 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Tammie (anonymous) says...

Suec, like I said, I am not saying that I'm not worried about gas going up. It's going to happen whether we like it or not. I just dont like that "mass hysteria" that has been created around it. I was here for Hugo..and Floyd...and Katrina. See where I am going with this?

September 12, 2008 at 9:24 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

coolfreaknbeans (anonymous) says...

Tammie I didn't hear about the $5 gas.Geez.I went to the Pig in Summerville last night.The cashier guy told me that the panic was so bad that the police had to come out b/c the line for the sunoco on Trolley/Bacons bridge was so long it wrapped around the entire Piggly Wiggly shopping center and people couldn't enter or exit!I personally won't purchase gas from an establishment that price gouges or participates in fear mongering.I was told gas is still $3.46 at places according to gas buddy.

September 12, 2008 at 9:24 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

VMI90 (anonymous) says...

I concur, wjhamilton.

September 12, 2008 at 9:25 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Lovely_One (anonymous) says...

Haven't read the comments yet, but I am riding on my 1/8 of a tank and was doing so when I got the "email" yesterday. I had plans on stopping for gas on the way home from work, but when I got the email and saw all of the people at the gas station I kept on truckin'. I said that if gas did go up to $5 a gallon I would just have to pay it because I needed to put gas in my car. No biggie! I was relieved when I saw that gas was still $3.55 on my end though!

September 12, 2008 at 9:25 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

lottcm (anonymous) says...

I also heard the radio announcement and someone from the Kangaroo chain was interviewed and stated that what they pay for gas went up 1.60 something and they were going to "have" to pass this to the customers. I also filled my tank (light was on). I live and work in Moncks Corner (full time btw) and drive to college in Charleston twice a week until 10pm. Public transportation is not an yet a reasonable option at that time of night back to Moncks Corner. I simply can not afford 5.00 in gas. I have exhausted efforts to car pool and felt I had no choice. It has nothing to do with panic stricken morons!!

September 12, 2008 at 9:27 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

wjhamilton3 (anonymous) says...

The CARTA express Route running from Mt. Pleasant to Downtown Charleston is standing room only on its morning runs and ridership is up over 200% from last year. Ridership on the CARTA #40 local bus is up 29% from last year. General system ridership is up 26% for the same period.

The busses do run empty some time, there aren't a lot of people commuting to work in Mt. Pleasant where the Express bus stops. There is very little employment out near Super Walmart in Mt. Pleasant and virtually none with an 8 am start time. However that empty East Bound bus is completely full headed into the city a fifteen minutes later.

The 40 runs full going East in the Morning, but it's taking people to service jobs closer in. It's a local.

You don't have to ride transit if you don't want to. If sweaty, working class people scare you, put all the four dollar a gallon gas in your SUV you like, move to the fringe suburbs and a gated community and watch Fox news at night. We'll drill the ANWAR for you and gas will still be 5 or 6 dollars a gallon in two years. You can blame it all on the liberals when you can't sell your house because everybody wants to live within walking distance of a bus line. It is, after all, Jimmy Carter's fault, because he warned us all this would happen and he didn't make wearing a sweater look as much fun as Regan's plans.

Racism, waste and stupidity are all perfectly legal, but they're luxuries. You may not be able to afford them all.

September 12, 2008 at 9:29 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

DoaMM (anonymous) says...

J_C, the multiple gum wads on the MARTA system is for your protection...acts as seat/foot belts in case of a collision.

I, once again, point toward the movie "The Road Warrior" with the quote, "The nation's leaders talked and talked...until the oil machine sputtered and stopped."

I'm not saying it will end up like that, but the "talking" without the "doing" for ANY kind of additional energy is pointless.

I'll just keep riding my bike. While I also need to fuel my vehicles, I don't have to do it but every two weeks, and even then I could go for a month if I stretched it.

September 12, 2008 at 9:32 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

suec (anonymous) says...

I got gas yesterday and am not a panic stricken moron either! :)
I saw some rudeness but no hysteria or panic.
Some of you are in a panic becuse of the media perceived hysteria!

I waited in line maybe 10 minutes. Talked to the hubby and listened to the radio as I waited.

September 12, 2008 at 9:33 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

VMI90 (anonymous) says...

Oh Jane..that's not the only answer, and you know it.

JC- nice simpson's reference (I prefer Family Guy myself)

monorail....monorail....monorail!

Before any of you wingnuts jump on me for saying monorail, it's part of the Simpson's, so lighten up.

September 12, 2008 at 9:35 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

guidedbystewart (anonymous) says...

For the "Drill baby Drill crowd", what is your answer to the quicker we exploit a nonrenewable resource the quicker we use it up? Soon we will be crying "Gone Baby Gone".

September 12, 2008 at 9:37 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

follyb (anonymous) says...

This morning I stopped at Sunoco on James Island $3.69 what a rip off. Just down the street on Folly the Exon was 3.55

September 12, 2008 at 9:38 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Tammie (anonymous) says...

VMI..don't break out in song with the "Monorail" episode...lol

September 12, 2008 at 9:39 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

RTC (anonymous) says...

WJ,
Ha! Someone that would pay those asinine prices for a crappy house in I'on has no room to talk about people with SUV's.
I drive what I like and what I feel safe in. You pay way too much for a poorly built house, and I have a reasonably priced, decent home that actually has a yard.

September 12, 2008 at 9:48 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

grannyofseven_2 (anonymous) says...

We had to leave Friday morning for a funeral my husbands Father had passed away. We gassed up here next to my office. The price was 3.41
We got to Wilson NC and gas was 3.69. When we reached Richmond the gas was 3.43. We were there till Thursday when we got ready to gas up for the trip home gas there was only 3.51. It rose.
When we got to NC the gas was horrible we paid 3.99 the cheapest. We had no idea about the email but I took this trip and saw the price rise. God help us all wish I was able to ride a bike.

September 12, 2008 at 10:04 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Lovely_One (anonymous) says...

Granny, I am sorry for your lost.

September 12, 2008 at 10:12 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

iceman1978 (anonymous) says...

This is one of the reasons why I always make sure my car is 2/3 full during the height of hurricane season. At most we're probably looking at a 4-5 day period before the refineries will be opened again, and that's assuming they don't suffer heavy damage. These kinds of facilities cost a fortune to build, to maintain and to insure, so I'm certain that oil companies took the threat of hurricanes into consideration when they built them.

Just don't panic. If it will put your mind at ease, go ahead and add a few gallons to your car but don't do like these people who have gas cans filling their trunk. Just top your car off and be prepared to cut back on the level of driving for a couple of days until we know what's happened with the storm.

September 12, 2008 at 10:17 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Tammie (anonymous) says...

Aww Granny, I'm sorry for your family's loss!

September 12, 2008 at 10:21 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

grannyofseven_2 (anonymous) says...

Thank you lovely. I am starting to look at life a bit different now that's two family member is what 2 months.
James_C I replied to your email dear.

September 12, 2008 at 10:23 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

grannyofseven_2 (anonymous) says...

Thank you all. My husband has taken it very hard. But will let him know of your caring wishes.
Now as far as the gas email when was this sent out and by whom?

September 12, 2008 at 10:27 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

CMLMADDOG (anonymous) says...

These idiots topping off their tanks are only making things worse by panicking.

September 12, 2008 at 10:31 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

coolfreaknbeans (anonymous) says...

Hi Granny.I'm so sorry for your family's losses.I hope you are all doing well.When someone dies it defintely gives you a whole new perspective.Last January my mother in law was killed in a horrific industrial accident at only 51yrs of age.Leaving behind a 16yr old child,too.Such unexpected tragedy changes the way you look at life.

September 12, 2008 at 10:33 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

CMLMADDOG (anonymous) says...

By the way, Einsteins, it's not price gouging. If a station charges $20 a gallon, you don't have to get gas there. Drive your fat, lazy as*es down the road to another station.

It's capitalism.

September 12, 2008 at 10:41 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

tc1 (anonymous) says...

Posted by Newt on September 12, 2008 at 9:53 a.m.
"It will take a multi-prong approach to solve our energy crisis. Drilling will be part of the process, but not the only answer."

Clearly and without any doubt! Major problems are those who think it is the only answer, those who say under no circumstances can we drill anywhere, and if by majic we had all the oil we could use tomorrow we don't have the refinery capacity to turn it into gasoline and it takes far to long to get one built because environmentalists will not entertain a reasonable realistic solution.

"Wind, solar, fuel efficiency, hydro-electric, thermo-nuclear, and yes oil."

And anything else that technolgy can come up with.

"If we want to win the war on terrorists we need to get their oil monkey off our backs. Then we will not have a reason to muck about in their countries and they will have less reasons to hate us."

Amen, but I could care less if they hate us besides they already have told us for decades we must die, oil or no oil.

All the talk here and everywhere else is about gas and that is the most obvious and immeadiate need.

I challenge everyone to come up with something in their possesion today which can not be related to oil in some form directly or indirectly.

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September 12, 2008 at 10:41 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

RTC (anonymous) says...

granny, my condolences to you and your hubby.
When I was younger we lost a family member about every 4 mths. until there wasn't anyone left. It seems like the bad luck runs in a streak. I hope that is not the case for you.

September 12, 2008 at 10:43 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Lovely_One (anonymous) says...

Newt,

If they had to substantiate claims they wouldn't be able to be the one with the "breaking news stories". It's all about getting the news out there first, not about reporting it accurately and responsibly. Sad, but true. I can say that my radio station (Power 106.3 WJNI) was more responsible. The DJ (Bryan Sesbrook) debunked the rumor and told people not to panic and he went outside and checked gas prices himself and reported to the people that the prices were not changing around Rivers Ave.

--------------------------------CAUTION: Christian beliefs to follow!------------------------------------------

He was telling the "believers" that they needed to have faith that this was not true and to believe God for it. He said that fear was of the devil and that God did not create the spirit of fear and if they were true believers they would not be fearful even of the price was to go up. He was saying that they had the means to get gas at $3.45/gal and they should believe that they will have the means to get it at $5/gal. All true!!!

September 12, 2008 at 10:48 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

VMI90 (anonymous) says...

Yes, some of us left leaners are rational, like there are some rational conservatives. It's the vocal, uninformed, talking-point dems and repubs that make all of us rational conversationalists look bad. You have JohnQ who is a nut job, and don't forget that imbecile RW. His answer to an argument is to call you gay. Nice intelligent debate.

September 12, 2008 at 10:50 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

coolfreaknbeans (anonymous) says...

CMLMADDOG-You are the idiot.Here is the definition of price gouging,since you are too lazy to look up terms you don't know.
Price Gouging:The term price gouging refers to the phenomenon of sharply rising prices of items in (often temporary) high demand.

September 12, 2008 at 10:52 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

grannyofseven_2 (anonymous) says...

CMLMADDOG in a rustic way you are right if gas station 1 is selling for 20.00 there is one close by selling for less but remember you will be burning out 5.00 to save 2

September 12, 2008 at 10:52 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

maladjuster (anonymous) says...

I have gas.

September 12, 2008 at 10:53 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

usna04 (anonymous) says...

The gas stations on James Island were slam packed yesterday. The lines were so long that it extended all the way out onto Folly Road at times.

September 12, 2008 at 10:53 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

coolfreaknbeans (anonymous) says...

CMLMADDOG-Here's another one for you idiot...
Capitalism:An economic system in which individuals and companies own the main means of production, through which they hope to make profits.

Intend to make profits,not rip people off using scare tactics.

September 12, 2008 at 10:55 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

CMLMADDOG (anonymous) says...

Unfortunately, you are showing your stupidity.

It is only gouging if the governor declares a state of emergency.

Educate yourself.

Now like good sheep, go vote for Barack, then the government can save you.

September 12, 2008 at 10:56 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

grannyofseven_2 (anonymous) says...

I just saw this on CNN thought it was interesting.

Small college town in the mountains, Sylva, NC was the scene of chaos fueled by rumor of $6 gasoline and rumors that tomorrow there will be no gas in our surrounding area. There were reports of fighting and streets were clogged so the police and local rescue squad had to assist. While privately owned stations covered their pumps and shut their doors the chain stores had lines over 1/2 mile long around 7 pm tonight. This video was shot around 9 pm after the worst of the lines and traffic was over.

September 12, 2008 at 10:56 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

CMLMADDOG (anonymous) says...

LOL at maladjuster!

September 12, 2008 at 10:58 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

tc1 (anonymous) says...

NewT,

"I am saying that when we obtain energy independence we will have far fewer reasons to be involved in their countries."

We continue to agree. I am glad. :) I would take it one step farther. I can't think of any reason to be involved or "mucking about" except oil for reasons we both stated previously.

September 12, 2008 at 11:04 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

iceman1978 (anonymous) says...

Gas prices here only seem to have gone up by 25 cents. The Mobile 1 on Folly Rd was around $3.80 this morning and was under $3.60 yesterday.

September 12, 2008 at 11:09 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Lovely_One (anonymous) says...

Newt, I said the same thing. My husband listens to a local AM station and he said they were warning people about the "gas situation" and telling them that they needed to get their gas now. It is crazy that we forgot what happened when we had the Floyd scare. That was one of my biggest reasons for not running out and getting the gas. That and the fact that I know that my God will take care of me. And the CAUTION was just for you and ColdBeer!

September 12, 2008 at 11:16 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

coolfreaknbeans (anonymous) says...

Mad dog started insulting people-I simply corrected the dogs behavior :)
To CMLMADDOG-That's just low....If you ever accuse me of being an O'Bama supporter I will never forgive you :)

September 12, 2008 at 11:16 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

DanniD (anonymous) says...

the sky is falling, the sky is falling

September 12, 2008 at 11:18 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

grannyofseven_2 (anonymous) says...

ROFLMAO @ ColdBeer

September 12, 2008 at 11:24 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

jeff61 (anonymous) says...

God owns a Gas Station?

September 12, 2008 at 11:25 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

tc1 (anonymous) says...

What cold meicine, sounds interesting. oops that might start a panic!

September 12, 2008 at 11:27 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

guidedbystewart (anonymous) says...

Jane,
I do not know where you get your numbers (probably another conservative propaganda site) but your numbers are way off base. Oil shale is hard to get and very energy intensive for its extraction, so it is not an efficient and affordable at the moment. We may have 50 to 150 years of oil left all together, but that is at current consumption numbers. The consumption rates are going off the roof in places like India and China, and are growing at an exponential rate. Again we have the problem with the quicker we exploit something, the quicker we use that resource up. No one has answered my question or has addressed this concern. I also am fully aware that Petroleum is used in many everyday products, hence my comment earlier about our oil dependence and our critical need to change that.

I am also fully aware the predicament we have with the OPEC nations and the barrel they have us over. I am not opposed to drilling if we can insure that all of the oil drill for on our land goes just for us and if the government can insure that some of the profits are used for research for alternative fuels. All in all, our oil dependence has got us in a huge predicament.

September 12, 2008 at 11:33 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Lovely_One (anonymous) says...

jeff,

God owns it all!!!!!

September 12, 2008 at 11:35 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

guidedbystewart (anonymous) says...

BTW, we should be chanting, "Conservation Now!"

September 12, 2008 at 11:36 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

tc1 (anonymous) says...

I believe both NewT and myself addressed your concern. What am I missing?

September 12, 2008 at 11:37 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

tc1 (anonymous) says...

I guess you better keep the brand name to yourself. If it works good as prescribed some druggie will find a way to extract the part that works and then the rest of us will suffer because you won't be able to get it anymore, like sudafed combinations. :(

September 12, 2008 at 11:48 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Tammie (anonymous) says...

Aww Newt-a-licious, I hope you feel better. My doc prescribed me some good stuff and I'm at 97% now. Summer colds suck!

September 12, 2008 at 11:55 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

tc1 (anonymous) says...

"I also am fully aware that Petroleum is used in many everyday products"

gbs,

It doesn't matter if a product has oil in in its chemical makeup or not, oil will have been involved in its production almost every step of the way. As you stated oil is not renewable but we need to be getting enough now AND figuring out how to replace it in the future. *IMO, and I really would like to be wrong, its replacement is a log way off even if we weren't still just talking.

September 12, 2008 at noon ( permalink | suggest removal )

coolfreaknbeans (anonymous) says...

Of course God owns a gas station.Thats why you always hear people scream "JESUS CHRIST!!" After paying for their fill up.

September 12, 2008 at 12:01 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Lovely_One (anonymous) says...

CFB, after I stop laughing I will ask you to kindly report to the corner for that one. LMAO!!!!!

September 12, 2008 at 12:02 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

tc1 (anonymous) says...

j_c, poor baby seems to be improving, breaks over! :)

September 12, 2008 at 12:07 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

tc1 (anonymous) says...

coolfreaknbeans, ROTFLMAO really good!

September 12, 2008 at 12:10 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

DoaMM (anonymous) says...

"That lady looks like she is ready to choke a cracka'!"

Too damn funny...

September 12, 2008 at 12:13 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Tammie (anonymous) says...

Lmao @ Beans!!!!

Don't forget the ever famous "Holy Shyt!", "What in Jesus Name..?", "Well Gotdamnit!!", etc when they see the prices also!

~~~~~~~~~~~~~Christian Moment~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Spare me the I'm going hell speech. Lol

September 12, 2008 at 12:20 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Tammie (anonymous) says...

And Newt...my sickies lasted me for almost 9 days. Started last week with a bad sore throat and chest cold. I didnt realize Children's Benadryl worked as good as it did!

Now, if you wanna see panic because of a shortage...let me go to the candy store and they tell me "We're running low on Jelly Belly jelly beans so you must limit yourself to 1/4 of a pound."

I'm normally a laidback person but I'd be on Channel 2 by 315.

September 12, 2008 at 12:25 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

tc1 (anonymous) says...

"Back on topic - Mr. Clean is probably a petroleum product, I am thinking."

It doesn't matter if a product has oil in in its chemical makeup or not, oil will have been involved in its production almost every step of the way.

All products today are petroleum products since they only come about with oil somewhere in the process.

September 12, 2008 at 12:25 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Tammie (anonymous) says...

JCC, I am with you on that one. I disrespect chocolate all the time. Saw the price of gas when it FIRST skyrocketed. My response.."What the fudge?!"

September 12, 2008 at 12:33 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

crankyyankee (anonymous) says...

"Tell me why we win back in a war, what we wasted in the last. Life just ain't as righteous as it used to be before, when your armies out of gas!"
Waylon Jennings

September 12, 2008 at 12:35 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

JLWDALFAN (anonymous) says...

I THINK IT'S CRIMINAL FOR A GAS STATION TO JACK IT'S PRICES UP DUE TO A SHORTAGE RUMOR. IF THIS STORM DOES INDEED MAKE
SHIPMENTS DELAYED, SO BE IT, BUT SHAME ON ANYONE FOR RAISING THEIR PRICES THROUGH THE ROOF. I FOR ONE WOULD NEVER AND LET ME SAY NEVER EVER SHOP THEIR AGAIN

September 12, 2008 at 12:36 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

leblackw (anonymous) says...

Edisto prices, while usually 10-15 c higher than whats in town, are at 4.59 now. Bummer...

September 12, 2008 at 1 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

tc1 (anonymous) says...

The windfall profits MARGIN for the mean old Exon was around 9-10% which is around the midpoint for all corp. Never looked but if my 401k mutual funds don't have some of that I need to move that investment.

NewT,
if you raise the lease cost you raise the final price making it another indirect tax on we the people, congress punishes the big rich corporation looks good - we the people are screwed again.

September 12, 2008 at 1:06 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

chs294 (anonymous) says...

If someone absolutely needs a full tank then ok, pump it. But most people probably only need about 5-10 gallons to get through the weekend.(key word NEED) But otherwise it's another example of our selfish nature. All about ME. "For the common good" has no meaning. And yes, I bought 10 gallons($3.49) Thursay night at the request of my friendly station.

September 12, 2008 at 1:09 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

guidedbystewart (anonymous) says...

Jane,
Again, I said I would be up for drilling, if and only if we have it for own usage and our countries usage only. It is also a fact that oil is finite and therefor not debatable, along with the concept that if we become better at exploiting that finite resource, the quicker it goes away. I don't know about you, but I would personally not like to leave the up coming generations with a real big mess.

Again, we don't have a viable alternative to oil as of yet. Also, this shows the since of urgency to conserve and the urgency to find other viable alternative. Sometimes we can not just solve our problems with just supply and demand, and capitalism.

September 12, 2008 at 1:22 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

tc1 (anonymous) says...

"Supply & demand.....if we don't demand as much, then the price goes down"

True, but only to a point like cost to produce. Then you go out of business or just stop producing, leaving no product.

September 12, 2008 at 1:26 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

guidedbystewart (anonymous) says...

Posted by tc1 on September 12, 2008 at 1:26 p.m. (Suggest removal)

""Supply & demand.....if we don't demand as much, then the price goes down"

True, but only to a point like cost to produce. Then you go out of business or just stop producing, leaving no product."

Another problem is that while demand can go down in this country, it is still rising rapidly in China and India.
1/3 of the worlds population is becoming more like us (consumption wise), and this will inevitably cause some real big problems.

September 12, 2008 at 1:34 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

tc1 (anonymous) says...

"Sometimes we can not just solve our problems with just supply and demand, and capitalism"

We could if it were not for selfishness and shortsightedness.

September 12, 2008 at 1:35 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

VMI90 (anonymous) says...

Ok..I have to chime in. Let's go back to the profit margin argument. For round figures, let's say that the profit margin for Big Oil is 10%. Go back sa few yrs, when gas was say $1.50/gallon. What is 10% of that? My math comes to .15 per gallon sold. Ok...for round figures, let's use $3.50/gallon (which is rather generous). According to the numbers, that means they are making $.35 per gallon. Ok, let's take it a step further, and say that Exxon sold 100,000,000 gallons. A few yrs, back, their profit (according to the profit margin) is $10,000,000. According to today's prices- going with the $3.50/gallon price again, they are making $35,000,000.

You see, the same profit margin is all relative. It does not mean the same thing if the price is much higher.

September 12, 2008 at 1:44 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

cadkinson12 (anonymous) says...

Gas at the Citgo was $3.58 yesterday after 5pm and is now $4.19 7am today. I guess it's not really a rumor.

September 12, 2008 at 1:48 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

tc1 (anonymous) says...

"Another problem is that while demand can go down in this country, it is still rising rapidly in China and India.
1/3 of the worlds population is becoming more like us (consumption wise), and this will inevitably cause some real big problems."

At this point in time I believe that has more to do with the supply side then anything else.

"Selfishness on whos part? The Consumer for giving into fear at the pump? Or the selfishness of the investors that only see profit and ignores poverty?"

As long as there is profit investers will invest and produce. If that stops then you will see REAL poverty.

September 12, 2008 at 1:54 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

VMI90 (anonymous) says...

...one more thing- the oil industry is not a true reflection of capitalism, like some uninformed souls here have trumpeted. Capitalism is based on true competition, which is not happening in the world- we do not have any acceptable alternatives if the price is too high. This is called an inelastic product. Not only that, because of the inelasticity of oil, the major producers have set oil prices, and in my opinion are in collusion, which in turn is an oligopoly- thus controlling prices. If this was not the case, why wouldn't one company decide to reduce their profit margin to say 5%, and get alot more sales? Why? Because they seem to have an unwritten agreement to not do that.

September 12, 2008 at 1:54 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

VMI90 (anonymous) says...

nice try, JC..but we have alternatives to microsoft. Thanks for playing.

September 12, 2008 at 1:56 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Dr_Psycho (anonymous) says...

Maybe someone should question how the gas that is in a dealers tank that is already delivered at a set price can go up 40 cents in less than two hours? Sounds like most should be investigated for gouging. Just a thought.

September 12, 2008 at 1:56 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

tc1 (anonymous) says...

VM190,

I have to leave for now but will think about your problem later. It does appear at first read to be a margin on the retail price in your example not the wholesale price. Also if I understand your last statement I believe it is the same if their cost also rises. If their cost is the same as when the price was $1.50 and they are now charging $3.50 then yes that would be all the bad things said about them. This is a huge business so there are huge dollars involved and that is where margin keeps it in perspective.

Bye for now

September 12, 2008 at 2:11 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

VMI90 (anonymous) says...

and to be fair, tc...I did not take if the costs increased- however now that I think about it, profit MARGIN does take that into consideration. Hey at least we are civil and thinking about the issue, instead of jumping to conclusions, insults, and using the same old, tired talking points that are constantly spewed here. Nothing beats good, intelligent, stimulating debate. I am heading out soon...everyone have a fantastic weekend, and go Gamecocks....and Keydets.

September 12, 2008 at 2:21 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

guidedbystewart (anonymous) says...

I have to say I got gas for $3.40 yesterday and I am glad I did.....The price are already going up hardcore in Columbia.

http://www.thestate.com/local/story/5...

September 12, 2008 at 2:28 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

coolfreaknbeans (anonymous) says...

Why is gas going up when it was just announced that for the first time in 5 months...Gas is now UNDER $100 per barrel?

September 12, 2008 at 2:38 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

eatmorecollards (anonymous) says...

If you only drive when necessary its going to cost you just as much to fill up as it is to put in 10 gallons at a time. Maybe it will cost you more if you have to go out of your way to get to a service station.

September 12, 2008 at 2:44 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

WinthropEagleFan (anonymous) says...

coolfreaknbeans,

Because that's under $100/barrel for oil, not gas. The short-term problem is that alot of refineries are off-line due to Ike (and were before due to Gustav)...Oil can be as cheap and plentiful as it wants, but if it isn't being turned into gas, the supply of gas decreases, which increases the price of gas...

September 12, 2008 at 2:50 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

grannyofseven_2 (anonymous) says...

chit wish we could get pay raises every time the gas prices gets a raise ***** daydreamming again******

September 12, 2008 at 3:04 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

grannyofseven_2 (anonymous) says...

Ok people I have just had a heart attack the station next to my office is now 5.01 that is since this morning. Ok where is my nitro this is ridicules ^%%$#$% ^^%$^ *&&^%^&* sorry only way I can say swear words please forgive me

September 12, 2008 at 3:25 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Tammie (anonymous) says...

Are you serious Granny???? Jeff, now you see why Love a dub dub and Jelly Beans said God does own the gas stations!!!

***Insert blasphemy here: "___________________________ "***

September 12, 2008 at 3:37 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

pluffmudder (anonymous) says...

I just heard that there is going to be a shortage of dog poop in the lowcountry! Better get yours now before its too late. I just happen to have more than I can use, so I am willing to sell some at the moderate price of $6.00 per 2" log. Hurry - these won't last long! Just call me at 1-800-dumb-azz for your share of dog poop today, don't be left without in times of need!

LMAO!!!!!!!!

September 12, 2008 at 4:23 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

coolfreaknbeans (anonymous) says...

WinthropEagleFan -I understand that.But when it increases in price we pay more for gas and they tout that as an excuse.(the fluctuating price per barrel)

September 12, 2008 at 5:27 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

jeff61 (anonymous) says...

Where depending on these gas stations are then God supports Sunday beer sales. Also God would not charge $5.01 a gallon for gas. He would russle up some more dead diasoures or just put oil in the gound for us... Better yet every morning when we wake uo are gass tanks would be filled...God.....so unbelievable

September 12, 2008 at 5:36 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

k5 (anonymous) says...

I topped my car off in Walterboro last night around 11:00 at $3.57, today at 5:30 - it's $4.69!!

September 12, 2008 at 5:37 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

jeff61 (anonymous) says...

scnative4ever
You really a stupid bastard and complete dickhead. Do us a favor and just shut up. You show what an idiot you are with each post. You sound like the type that would sitting in that bar in Galveston about now.

September 12, 2008 at 5:46 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

MMitchum (anonymous) says...

N Augusta this afternoon...FYI..3.59 lowest highest 4.19

September 12, 2008 at 6 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

jeff61 (anonymous) says...

Good advice Thomas

September 12, 2008 at 6:21 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

eatmorecollards (anonymous) says...

They don't want to run out of gas because no one will come in to buy thier over priced snacks.

September 12, 2008 at 6:30 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

UrGatorbait (anonymous) says...

It's not price gouging uber patriot Thomas, it's capitalism at it's finest. Embrace it. They aren't breaking the law. Maybe you should learn it before talking and removing all doubt.
Idiots make a run on supply, causing limited supply, which causes prices to rise. To this in the US, start text messaging, emailing bogus hysterical info, sit back and enjoy the hysterical idiots. All the while the oil foks are grinning ear to ear or maybe do a little research in between stuffing more calories in your faces.

http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/080912/oil_pr...

Oil below $100 a barrel. Refineries temporarily closed shipments temporarily halted. Pay attention.

Stewart your simpleton, goal post moving, liberal state owned mentality is another example of why, after 30 years we are still dependent on oil. Stewart sez..."...if we only use it for us..." putting restrictions on selling and use? Moving the goalposts? or "oil shale is to costly to develop. Conserve and we'll have enough" Okay sparky, what to do when we can't get everyone to sing a, "kum by ya", on the saving part, then we run out without using our time wisely to develop multiple alternative sources. Do it while we aren't under pressure or time constraints to develop them at the last minute?

You epitomize big intrusive government as much as the neo cons who want only oil and have done their level best to retard the development of alternative sources. Take your poison, the libs who don't wanna do anything unless an opinion poll tells them okay or the neo con hacks who just want to use up all the resources and make money?

September 12, 2008 at 6:45 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

ChasCarolinaGirl (anonymous) says...

Duh!!! Of course the prices are going to go up b/c some of you dummies believe the rumors and go nuts! Thanks for being so naive and helping the gas stations to raise the gas prices. Idiots!

September 12, 2008 at 7:49 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

jeff61 (anonymous) says...

You got a problem with me going nuts over gas and rumors Chasgirl? I enjoyed being in those gass lines and cutting people off trying to get in front of me.. I was there first. They are cutting accross the lane trying to get in front of me...They block the exists that prevented us from getting out so they could get in....One young girl jumped out of mini van and stated yelling at people and trying to explain if they blocked the exit and can't get in.. LOL...Any how I felt I owed it to poeple to add to the kaos and do my part

September 12, 2008 at 10:04 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

oldglory (anonymous) says...

OMG! Are we in a state of emergency? NO ONE WORKED TODAY???

LMA0 @ you guys, particularly Jeff and CB.

Granny, I'm so sorry to hear your sad news. I'd been wondering where you've been. I missed you. My condolences to you and yours.

September 13, 2008 at 1:23 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

ChasCarolinaGirl (anonymous) says...

Ohhhh, now I see Jeff. Yes, wasn't it ridiculous? We are not going to run out of gas. We will run out of money before we run out of gas. Besides, Ike was a CAT 2. Hardly anything compared to Katrina.

People freak over nothing. I'd love for half of Charleston to run out of gas to keep the stupid drivers off the road. IF YOU CAN'T PASS IN THE LEFT LANE, STAY IN THE RIGHT LANE DUMMY!

Yes, I have a tad of road rage. ;-)

September 13, 2008 at 7:28 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

darkwing_7 (anonymous) says...

why do so many stories keep saying Gustov hit New Orlenes? Fay hit the state and Gustov hit SC/NC. Do the people writine these articles even care enough to get there facts straight. Even on the national news they keep repeating this error!!!!

September 13, 2008 at 11:42 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

guidedbystewart (anonymous) says...

So UrGatorbait, getting on top of you soapbox and hurly insults at opinions might make you feel a we bit superior. Yet, this kind of arrogance is usually a sign of something else lacking in other departments. I hear that there are male enhancements out there, but I can not vouch if they work or not, so you may be SOL!

Now for a response from your bombastic comment.

You said:

"Stewart your simpleton, goal post moving, liberal state owned mentality is another example of why, after 30 years we are still dependent on oil. Stewart sez..."...if we only use it for us..." putting restrictions on selling and use? "

I can assure you, that before I state an opinion or belief. I rationally analyze my beliefs and research the counter viewpoints, whether if right or wrong, problematic or whatever. I am only human and do not pretend to have all of the answer. Though my response are rarely knee jerk rations, come from partisan web sites or do they make me a as you so arrogantly stated from your soapbox. While I admit that my political viewpoints are little left of center, I take a pragmatic approach on how I feel the country should be run. You may disagree, yet I feel that it is in the interest of our government to look after its people (and not just the corporations and the ones that are wealthy). If I am not mistaken "provide for the general welfare" is stated in the constitution. Lord knows globalization and the free market have not always looked out for our country's self interest.

I feel that reserving our own oil supply for just us looks out for the self interest of our people and has little to do with "moving goal post". Almost any other country in the western world look out for their self interest, but I know, it goes against the American concepts of individualism and the good ole' American spirit of competition.
Last time I checked the people that own most of the worlds oil supply do not like us very much. The Bush Administration has done little to assuage this problem, in fact I feel that they have made things worse. That fact gives them a lot of power and leverage over us. Another fact is that oil is a nonrenewable resource and we have an oil addiction that we have yet to get weaned off of. So Gator, it does not take a "simpleton" to see that this could be problematic?

September 13, 2008 at 12:46 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

guidedbystewart (anonymous) says...

cont.
Again Gator says:..

"Moving the goalposts? or "oil shale is to costly to develop. Conserve and we'll have enough" Okay sparky, what to do when we can't get everyone to sing a, "kum by ya", on the saving part, then we run out without using our time wisely to develop multiple alternative sources. Do it while we aren't under pressure or time constraints to develop them at the last minute?"

Gator, If you are going to quote me, actually use my own words and please leave them within context of the argument. My comment on oil shale was more of a response to Jane, that extraction of oil shale almost causes more problems than they are worth (it takes a lot of energy to extract, environmental problem, resource problems) and that it will do little ease or solve our oil dependence. Also, there was not any point in my comments yesterday where I stated "Conserve and we'll have enough". I did state conserve now, we again, it does not take a simpleton to realize that Americans consumption habit (Including mine) are horrendous. While conservation will solve the problems, it will assuage the problem from becoming worse than it already is. If we don't change our consumption habits soon, we will be in a world of hurt and then we will have no alternative but to have the government intervene. That, along with research and exploring other energy source, hopefully we will slowly wean off our addiction of oil, but I can not bet on it.

September 13, 2008 at 12:50 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

guidedbystewart (anonymous) says...

Lastly Gator states:.

"You epitomize big intrusive government as much as the neo cons who want only oil and have done their level best to retard the development of alternative sources."

I while I agree gas price at the pump have been a catalyst for conservation, higher mileage cars and so. It is not always businesses self interest to lower consumption. I will admit the are problems with regulation, especially when it has to do with profit margins, I feel that
For the most part, regulation have done more good than bad. They have improved conditions in the work place, they have looked out for the consumer, and have made this country. While I am all for capitalism and free enterprise, we need some sort of checks and balance system so that business does not get too powerful just like we need some sort of checks and balance system with government. While there are a lot of great successes with capitalism and the free market, it will not solve all of the worlds problems.

While again these our my opinions and how I see things. You can agree with them or disagree, I could care less., but next time you start quoting me make sure they are in context.

September 13, 2008 at 12:54 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )