Posted by CharlestonJim on September 5, 2008 at 1:25 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I felt like quiting my job and going door to door for Palin after Wednesday night. The next speech I saw was Graham Thursday night. I am glad I did not quit my job. I will prob vote for Mccain-Palin for many reasons, one is I hope they give Graham a cabinet spot to clear the way for Sanford to take his senate seat.

Please Governor, run vs Graham in 6 years or run to replace him if he gets a spot in the admin.

Posted by ballachulish on September 5, 2008 at 3:24 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Charleston Jim,
What did you like about Palin? Her "family values", her flip-flop on the "bridge to nowhere", her cosiness with Big Oil, banning books from her locale library/ trying to have the librarian fired because she refused to do so, "Troopergate", "Breaking Watergate", heading up indicted Ted Stevens 527 PAC, she and her husband's participation in an anti-American pro-Alaska seccionist group, or that she ruined the budget of Wasilla taking them from a surplus to 22 million in debt?
She's perfect for the GOP ticket, can't tell the truth, hypocritical family values( the daughter wasn't the first to fail the abstinance only pledge), can't balance the books, and is more rhetoric than substance.
More of the same of the last 8 years, this time with a little trailer trash drama to spice it up.....

Posted by LadyM on September 5, 2008 at 7:13 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Why wait, vote Gramnesty out in November. Choose Connelly, he is really a Republican in a cloak of Democrat. We have to get rid of Graham this time, we can't stand another 4 years of him calling us bigots and racists because we want the law enforced.

I will vote for McCain/Palin. Maybe a little "trailer trash" is what this country needs. Besides it couldn't possibly be any worse than Clinton turning the White House into his personal brothel now can it. A strong woman that knows how to budget and isn't afraid of the "Good Ole Boy" system could be the change that everyone is looking for from the self proclaimed "Messiah Hussein". Think about that!

Ballachulish why don't you tell us what it is about Obama that makes you think he will bring anything but a bigger tax burden on American citizens to pay for his liberal Marxist programs of bigger government. Palin had more experience on day one of being a mayor than Obama has now. How many times can you vote present when you're the president? He voted present 130 times while in the Illinois Senate. At least we know he showed up, too bad he didn't do more than vote to let botched abortion babies die without any help at all. What a guy!

Posted by crankyyankee on September 5, 2008 at 8:14 a.m. (Suggest removal)

McCain and Graham were made for each other! Liberals parading as conservatives. Why would anyone with conservative values vote for either of these rubes?

Posted by MooMoo on September 5, 2008 at 8:28 a.m. (Suggest removal)

McCain's speech was awesome, and whether or not you agree with his every political position, you have to admire his values and service to country. He blows that empty suit of a politician Obama out of the water on every level! Obama is not a leader; he obviously can't make the hard decisions if he voted 'present' on so many issues while in the senate!

McCain made very clear his desire to work with people regardless of party affiliation, and has a long record of service to country, as well as challenging politicians of either party where needed. Contrast this with Obama's litany of tired, ineffective nanny state solutions, questionable associates and values, and there is no comparison between the two.

Posted by tc1 on September 5, 2008 at 8:32 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Because not voting for McCain has the net effect of a +1 vote for Obama. A vote for McCain at least offsets a vote for Obama. So even though you don't like McCain does a conservative really want to help Obama by not voting. I was PO in 92 and voted for Perot. Clinton won with 43% of the total vote. Think about it.

Posted by MooMoo on September 5, 2008 at 8:48 a.m. (Suggest removal)

So, Cranky, who will you vote for? Obama? The libertarin candidate (I believe that is Bob Barr, correct me if I am wrong)? Or, do you plan to stay at home on election day in protest?

Posted by blah_blah_blah on September 5, 2008 at 8:51 a.m. (Suggest removal)

tc1
and look at how great our country was with Clinton in office. I don't care at all about his winkie, when the country is so well off.

Palin's husband was part of the AIP, which is a party that wants to succede from America. Could you imagine if Michelle Obama was in that party? How the hate would fly!

Posted by msplacedinsc on September 5, 2008 at 8:54 a.m. (Suggest removal)

ballachulish, your dead on! The "right" can't stop tripping over their feet and tounges about this pretty womean who is all smoke and mirrors.

Posted by ballachulish on September 5, 2008 at 8:59 a.m. (Suggest removal)

LadyM,
I'm voting for Obama because he is well educated, well traveled, smart enough to know that Iraq didn't attack us on 9-11, knew that trillions thrown at Iraq would weaken our economy and divert from true mission of defeating Bin Laden, and he has the ability to repair the damages of the Bush/Cheney 8 year hell-a-thon.
Furthermore he realizes that rewarding companies for sending union or middle class jobs overseas is disingenuous, and rewarding the oil companies for ripping-off the American people is wrong.
Although ye of little education like to call progressives, "Marxists" unfortunately you don't have the capacity to understand that term doesn't apply to Democrats.
Big Bill might have had a "brothel", which I agree was trashy, fortunately for us he was able to multitask and leave the country in the best financial shape in it's history.
I'm glad to know you have such high moral standards and don't approve of serial adulterers, that means you won't be voting for McCain!

Posted by MooMoo on September 5, 2008 at 9:04 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Ballachulish,

I am quite amused by your post. So, I assume you plan to vote for:

A man who:
-is so indecisive he voted present 130 times while in the senate
-was a member of a radical church with a racist pastor for over 20 years, and claimed that he knew nothing of that pastor's hatred and vitriole (yeah, right).
-is on record as being very disdainful of the white part of his heritage
-refused to visit wounded soldiers while abroad this summer when he learned there would be no photo op.
-refuses to acknowledge the success of recent the troop surge in Iraq
-naively believes that you can "reason" with terrorists
-think so little of his own country that he became an apologist while abroad, calling himself a citizen of the world. SCARY.

I could go on and on, this is but the tip of the iceburg where Obama is concerned. Yes, he is very charming, articulate and handsome, as well as intelligent. He may even mean well. However, his record shows that he is too indecisive, has no intention of working across party lines, and there are too many doubts about where he really stands on many issues.

Posted by MooMoo on September 5, 2008 at 9:20 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Friends,

Let us remember that our form of government is NOT a dictatorship; i.e, it makes no sense to blame any president for all of the country's problems, nor give any president all the credit for all that is good. The president and congress work hand in hand. Bush is certainly not perfect and had made errors. As far as the war effort is concerned, many Democrats supported the invasion of Iraq given the evidence at the time, and given strong evidence to support Saddam Hussein's role in the funding of terrorism. The decision to invade was not just about WMD. I would further remind you that the Democrats have controlled congress for the last couple of years without passing one meaningful piece of legislation, and their approval rating is actually lower than that of President Bush. Furthermore, they have done NOTHING to address reducing our foreign oil dependency except carp about alternative energy sources. We can both tap into our own reserves offshore AND fund alternative sources - these two steps need not be mutually exclusive.

Posted by MooMoo on September 5, 2008 at 9:31 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Good morning RW!! Yeah, it only took two posts by one liberal poster for them to deteriorate into anger, insults, and misinformation. We knew that would happen, didn't we :) Conversely, when challenged with facts, the silence from that side is often deafening.

I do think the democrats are scrambling, and as I have said many times on these threads to our ultra liberal posting friends:

You never cease to amuse and entertain. Thank you!!

Posted by charlestonnative1963 on September 5, 2008 at 9:35 a.m. (Suggest removal)

MooMoo did you hear the same person speak as I? If you did I have to question your IQ? This was about the most humdrum I have heard. As for Palin! That is a time bomb waiting to explode. The Alaska paper had a story that she tried to fire a librarian because the library refused to ban certain books. The town supported the library and she had to retract her termination. SHe supported the Bridge before if became an issue-then acted only AFTER the US Congress to away the funding. THe jet was NOT sold on E-bay-she tried to sell it but could not. I only wonder if the 17 year olds are being FORCED into a marriage that will end in divorce or worse.

Posted by ballachulish on September 5, 2008 at 9:36 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Jane,
Thanks for the Fox/Limbaugh talking points. Google Palin and especially read her local Anchorage newspaper's coverage of her brief time in office.
Please note that after she supported then opposed the Bridge to Nowhere she still took the federal money designated for the bridge and spent it.
Her state gets per capita more federal assistance than any other state.
Her husband still works for BP, supposedly in a non supervisory position and sat in on negotiations on gas/oil policy between the Governor and the oil companies.
She tried to ban books in her local library and tried to fire the librarian who opposed her, and she left her small town with a huge deficit.
She spent the borrowed money on vanity projects while not fixing the town's decaying infrastructure.
I do realize that gas taxes are substantial, perhaps eliminating oil company tax breaks could offset them?
Enjoy the last days of the dark ages, a renaissance is coming to our country, arrogant stupidity will not tolerated, greed will be kept in check and the nattering nabobs of the money grubbing, hypocritical, Fox worshippers will be ending in January 2009!

Posted by MooMoo on September 5, 2008 at 9:36 a.m. (Suggest removal)

James and Chas. Jim, did you not see the themes of leadership, experience, character, service to country and much needed unity in McCain's speech?

I respectfully implore you both to keep these ideas in mind and watch it again.

Posted by MooMoo on September 5, 2008 at 9:40 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Charleston native, you join the elite club of those who cannot offer an opposing point of view without insulting those who disagree with you.

Congratulations!! (WINK, wink)

Posted by MooMoo on September 5, 2008 at 9:50 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Bye James! Agree with your points on national security and how the press will frame a McCain win. NBC's love affair with Obama is alarming. The press should be more objective.

Posted by tc1 on September 5, 2008 at 10 a.m. (Suggest removal)

"One executive close to Winfrey is warning any Palin ban could ignite a dramatic backlash!"

"Last year, Winfrey blocked an appearance by Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas, timed to a promotional tour of his autobiography."

Like she cares. She owns the company and is a Billionare. She can do as she pleases. ---- She is further proof that blacks can't get ahead in the oppressive white capitalist American system. ---- Since the liberals consistantly describe my consertative brothers and sisters as uneducated idiots please understand that last sentence was a sarcastic comment.

Posted by MooMoo on September 5, 2008 at 10:04 a.m. (Suggest removal)

TC1, good thing you pointed out the sarcasm in that remark. Otherwise, you probably would have gotten a spate of refutes and comments questioning your IQ..LOL. :)

Posted by ballachulish on September 5, 2008 at 10:09 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Jane,
On 9-11 George Bush's dad was lunching with Osam Bin Laden's brother.
That's the only muslim connection that is relevant.

Posted by blah_blah_blah on September 5, 2008 at 10:20 a.m. (Suggest removal)

It's starting to unravel....
http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/09/04/p...

Posted by MooMoo on September 5, 2008 at 10:31 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Jane,
Thank you for the Economics 101 (lesson for some, refresher for others...) Some of us needed it while others of us are laughing hysterically that they needed it...

Posted by MooMoo on September 5, 2008 at 10:38 a.m. (Suggest removal)

The plot thickens for Obama. More doubts and questions about who he really is - the reason he will lose in November.

Meanwhile, the left continues in their hypocrisy, anger, and shrill yet baseless attacks on true Americans.

Posted by blah_blah_blah on September 5, 2008 at 10:39 a.m. (Suggest removal)

James,
that article is opinion. while the group may exist and Obama ran it, what it is about is opinion. Read all the adjectives that are in it.

BTW, I love your screen name! LOL

Posted by guidedbystewart on September 5, 2008 at 10:40 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Over the next couple of weeks I will state my political opinion, time permitting. I have stated that I will vote for Obama, with a little reluctance, but short of something major happening, this decision is not going to change. I will admit my political views are a little left of center, but I do think for myself, am a pragmatist, and do not tow a particular ideology. I have certain viewpoints that I am passionate about that are definitely considered liberal, such as the environment, health care, so on.

I am not necessarily for smaller government (another rouge of the Republican Party, they are really not telling the truth about wanting smaller government, besides it does kinds of goes against the logic of power) but definitely smarter government. Besides, what do you really want just a few people having a great deal of power, or many people having a little power that keeps a check on the other people in power? I feel the government should have several checks and balances to keep it from being too powerful and not totalitarian, as I do with businesses and corporations. I feel regulation is not necessarily a bad thing, since much as the regulation is there to protect the environment and the well being of the workers and the consumer. Again, this viewpoint goes against much of the “core values” of the Republican Party.

Posted by MooMoo on September 5, 2008 at 10:41 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Hi Jane, I know, I know, I was laughing so hard that tears were streaming down my face as I read your message and responded, my dear. I just couldn't resist!!

Posted by MooMoo on September 5, 2008 at 10:47 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Guided, you sound like a very intelligent and thoughtful soul and while I disagree with many of your positions, I applaud your candor and civility.

I would appeal to your intellect and reason to keep an open mind and think long and hard about the many questions surrounding Obama. At least we know who John McCain is and what he stands for. The same cannot be said for Obama.

Posted by msplacedinsc on September 5, 2008 at 10:47 a.m. (Suggest removal)

The majority of posts from the "right-wing supporters" are really really stupid. If you really read between the lines of their comments, they are afraid and personnely I'm glad because we Liberals and Indy's have had to put up with Bush for the last eight long years! Our counrty is in the pooper thanks to the GOP. I hope the educated black/white man gets in so it scare's the uneducted in this country. Oh.....God Bless America!

Posted by guidedbystewart on September 5, 2008 at 11:04 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I have a question for all of you.
How are we going to pay for this huge deficit??? This deficit can, has and will serious remain a detriment to our economy and as much so as ever taxing the rich ever has. Also, if we continue having the tax burden on the middle class, how will this effect consumption rate of the middle class? Throughout history, a prospering economy has always relied on the health of the middle class, which has suffered under the Bush Administration (I realize it is not all of Bush's fault, as is the deficit, but we all can agree that he has not helped the cause any).

Posted by msplacedinsc on September 5, 2008 at 11:13 a.m. (Suggest removal)

hey stew, the GOP and it's backers think all we have to do is tax the rich more, drill all over north america for oil, pray to God more & more each day, and expect the middle class to repair the damage that the GOP has put us in? They won't admit to the mistakes the last eight years and have NO real solutions to the problems their party has created?

nuff said!

Posted by MooMoo on September 5, 2008 at 11:14 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Msplaced,

While I cannot speak for all conservatives, let me assure you that many of us are absolutely not afraid. We are confident in our convictions, and we trust our judgment over that of Washington beaurocrats. We believe in most people's ability to take care of themselves, and outstretch our hands to those who can't. We understand that an overweening government creates more problems than it solves, and that there is a huge fundamental difference between giving a man a fish and teaching him how to fish. We do not want a government that confiscates ever increasing amounts of our hard earned money to give to those who have done nothing to earn it, and seeks to control other basic decisions such as where and how to educate our children. We believe in freedom. Finally, we truly wonder how those on your side of the political spectrum, some of whom are well intentioned, could be so hopelessly misguided and contemptuous of us.

Posted by tc1 on September 5, 2008 at 11:21 a.m. (Suggest removal)

+1 for comment by MooMoo. That states my thoughts very well.

Posted by MooMoo on September 5, 2008 at 11:23 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Guided -a start to drawing down the debt is ridding ourselves of government waste and inefficiency and dramatically slashing/eliminating many entitlement programs, and lifting the onerous tax burdens on small business which is one of the critical engines of our economy. Also, by freeing up capital (ie, lowering taxes on the wealthy) for investments in business, you stimulate the economy, create jobs and generate heathier government revenue than high taxes, which are infact oppressive. These steps are not the total answer, but would go a long way.

Posted by guidedbystewart on September 5, 2008 at 11:25 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Crackcorn,
I disagree, the middle class does have the tax burden.
Yes, the wealthy pay 75% of the taxes, but they have much more than 75% of the wealth. If you look at actual percent of income, the middle class are paying a higher percentage.

BTW, did you hear about Cheney making the promise of giving a billion dollars to Georgia?

Republicans being fiscal conservatives my ass....

Posted by MooMoo on September 5, 2008 at 11:31 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Msplaced, please get your facts right. The GOP does not believe in increasing taxes for the 'rich.' That's what the liberals advocate!!

Posted by MooMoo on September 5, 2008 at 11:38 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Sadly, Jane, (re: Econ101) it is highly likely that those of us who understood you did so already (but appreciate the refresher nonetheless:)) and those who need to understand and apply such straightforward logical thinking probably didn't. Sad and also ironic, given the simplicity of the concepts you offered.

Posted by MooMoo on September 5, 2008 at 11:41 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Certainly some of the GOP power elite are not fiscally conservative and this is indeed a huge problem, James. Most rank and file conservatives certainly are, though. Part of Palin's appeal is her fiscal conservatism.

God, I miss Reagan.

Posted by guidedbystewart on September 5, 2008 at 11:41 a.m. (Suggest removal)

MooMoo,
I agree to some of what you are saying
We do need to lash some what conservative call entitlement programs, but really, how much does that actually cost us, what is the actual percentage of the budget that goes into welfare???? If we cut welfare, will it increase the cost we have to spend on prisons? Also, we have to insure that there are jobs to be had before we just throw people out oon the streets.
Agree we have to cut government waste, but that easier said than done. To monitor the government spending we have to create bureaucrats, and bureaucrats cost money. Again, actually how much of our budget is caused by government waste.
As for “trickle down economics”, there is no statistical evidence that it works, if someone could so me some actual data of it working, I might buy it.

Posted by msplacedinsc on September 5, 2008 at 11:48 a.m. (Suggest removal)

moo moo,

Blah, Blah, Blah... Just as I suspected from someone from your party. No solutions expect the same old crap every four years from the GOP. Expect higher taxes, bigger government, hate all gay people, scale down the military, prayers in school (only if it's approved by the GOP and it's relates to christianity), wasteful spending, pro-life blah, blah blah. A CD should be made of these worn out baseless issues so it would scale back the speeches of your party memebers at least 45 minutes at the convention. Stop dividing us as a nation!!

Your convictions won't put food on the table of americans who lost their jobs or provide a roof over their head cause they lost their home?

Just apoligize for voting for idiot GWB and click your heels that 138 days goes by really quick and we all can forget the error of your party and it's backers made!

Save your self some time in your day and don't respond, it won't be necessary cause all it is blah, blah, blah...............

Posted by msplacedinsc on September 5, 2008 at 11:53 a.m. (Suggest removal)

jimmy crack boy,

Are you afraid of the educated black/white man? Good.... now go back to the trailor, your pit bull that's tied up to the Ford Pinto needs some water!

God Bless America...the GOP days are numbered!

Posted by MooMoo on September 5, 2008 at 11:57 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Guided, you raise some interesting points. I am not just talking about welfare. What about all the pork projects; i.e., "taking home the bacon" that runs into the hundreds of millions, if not billions? Or, questionable government funded research such as why the tse tse fly travels in a certain direction? (note: that is not an actual example, but you get the point) Who cares? It does not matter and that type of ridiculous taxpayer funded spending is way outside the purview of what the federal government should be doing. We have crumbling infrastructures! The spending amounts and priorities are way out of whack.

As for so called trickle down economics: that is nothing more than a derisive term coined by the Left. I am not sure of your age, but I would suggest that you do your homework on the Reagan era. It was a time of great economic prosperity. Taxes were reduced, but tax revenue increased! Charitable giving was at an all time high.Reagan in effect ended the COld War.Yes, much has changed, but many of the basic economic principles in practice at that time were sound.

Posted by MooMoo on September 5, 2008 at noon (Suggest removal)

With all due respect, Msplaced, you can be assured I won't try to reason with you because you are hopelessly misguided as well as misplaced (by your own admission).

I wish you the best nonetheless.

Posted by ballachulish on September 5, 2008 at 12:05 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Under Reagan, Bush & Bush we had they greatest deficits ever, so much for Neo-eCONomics.
Clinton gave us the greatest prosperity the country has ever known.
I'll take a chance on the Dems they have a better track record.
BTW how much value has your house/trailer lost in the last 2 years?
How much more does a gallon of milk cost, any foreclosures in your neighborhood?
Are you better off now than you were 8 years ago?
Thought not.
Corporate welfare/ lax government enforcement has caused our current economic crisis, and y'all want more of the same.
5 year high in job loss data today...

Posted by MooMoo on September 5, 2008 at 12:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Well, I got to go get some stuff out of my yard. Everbody please be safe today - hopefully the impact of Hannah will be minimal here.

Finally, I offer this bit of wisdom for all to consider from MCcain's speech:

"'there is far more that unites us than divides us. We are all Americans, and that association is what matters most to me.'"

Posted by ballachulish on September 5, 2008 at 12:08 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Moo- Who should be saying Baaa,
Bush and the Bin Ladens have been friends for years that isn't a conspiracy theory it's a business arrangement, dolt.

Posted by guidedbystewart on September 5, 2008 at 12:10 p.m. (Suggest removal)

BTW, One of my biggest concerns of Obama is that he is not fiscally conservative, yet, this is also a concern of mine for McCain (neither one appear to be one).

I can agree with all of y'all, we need to curb spending, but hopefully not at the expense of investing in our future. The wealthier we are as a whole (rich and poor), the better we are as a nation.

Posted by guidedbystewart on September 5, 2008 at 12:13 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Posted by ballachulish on September 5, 2008 at 12:05 p.m. (Suggest removal)

"Under Reagan, Bush & Bush we had they greatest deficits ever, so much for Neo-eCONomics.
Clinton gave us the greatest prosperity the country has ever known.
I'll take a chance on the Dems they have a better track record.
BTW how much value has your house/trailer lost in the last 2 years?
How much more does a gallon of milk cost, any foreclosures in your neighborhood?
Are you better off now than you were 8 years ago?
Thought not.
Corporate welfare/ lax government enforcement has caused our current economic crisis, and y'all want more of the same.
5 year high in job loss data today..."

That also pretty much sums how I feel.

Posted by MooMoo on September 5, 2008 at 12:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Yeah Balla, I am better off now. I've worked hard, sacrificed, improved my education and have a better job and a nicer house. I spend and save wisely - just good old fashioned common sense, you know?

Most of the foreclosure crisis can be summed up in one word: GREED. Greed by the borrowers who foolishly bought more house than they could afford with ARMS and zero down interest-only loans, and greed on the part of the lenders for making risky loans in the subprime market. This is neither a conservative problem or a liberal problem - it's a PEOPLE problem.

My house has appreciated in value. Not as much as I might like,(who among us doesn't want a greater ROI?) but I haven't lost a damn thing. Why? Because as is the case with many other people, I pay attention, do my homework, and make sound decisions, And guess what? There are millions more like me; it's not I'm special in that regard.

Remember, even with a 5% unemplyment rate, that means a 95 percent employment rate. So, is the glass half empty or half full?

Really gotta go now...be safe all...it's been tons of fun!

Posted by ballachulish on September 5, 2008 at 12:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Thanks guided,
Ese Quam Videre!

Posted by msplacedinsc on September 5, 2008 at 1:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Hey Jane,
Check your facts sweetheart, the congress has been ruled by the GOP 10 out of the last 12 years. So again, this mess we are in has GOP written all over it. Before you spout off on a computer, apply a search on the computer and it will make you alittle wiser. God willing?

Posted by msplacedinsc on September 5, 2008 at 1:49 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Cracker,

my sympathy to you for being a racist. Your family and your neighbors in the trailer park must be proud? Are you down right jealous of educated people whether they are black, asian, or white? Sounds like it? We pity you.

The many proud americans that we are start with an open mind, educated, and not afraid of change. I would continue but it's obivious you can't reason with stupid people.

Go luck to you, you'll need it.

Posted by ballachulish on September 5, 2008 at 1:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Hey Jane,
Where did you get your Econ degree?
Interesting perspective you have.
Did you know Warren Buffet, the richest man in America supports Obama's economic vision?
Did you also know that Reagan's advisors confessed that they knew that his "VooDoo economics", trickle down policy would never work, and it never was supposed to...
Just facts, not rhetoric...

Posted by ballachulish on September 5, 2008 at 1:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)

RW,
You seem to know a lot about European programs, ever been there? Or anywhere?

Posted by msplacedinsc on September 5, 2008 at 1:56 p.m. (Suggest removal)

RW,

Are you scared of the B/W man also? Good! Putting up with you party crap is coming to an end. Hey Enstein, you must have been asleep when Bill was running the show. You're entire statement above does not apply.

Hold on... I think I hear a banjo, you may want to stop and run to the music!

Bless your heart

Posted by ballachulish on September 5, 2008 at 2:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)

RW,
Just as I thought, been nowhere, no experience, limited world view, yawn.

Posted by ballachulish on September 5, 2008 at 2:23 p.m. (Suggest removal)

RW,
I repeat been nowhere, and a card carrying member of the Know Nothing Party.
I thought the KNP died out in the 1850's, when they joined with the American Republican Party in 1855.
Thanks for showing that the faction is still alive and well within the current GOP.

Posted by blah_blah_blah on September 5, 2008 at 2:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)

ballachulish,
there is one thing that I learned in my high school debate team. That when people start name calling and personally attacking, then you have won your argument, (in refernce to RW's last comment.

Posted by ballachulish on September 5, 2008 at 2:28 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Blah,
I rest my case and bid adieu....

Posted by mkris on September 5, 2008 at 2:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Nationalized healthcare IS NOT a failure in the rest of the world.
Republicans are entitled to thier opinion, just not thier own facts.

Posted by guidedbystewart on September 5, 2008 at 2:37 p.m. (Suggest removal)

RW,
I do not deny I am a secular humanist and an agnostic, actually I am proud of this fact!

Posted by guidedbystewart on September 5, 2008 at 2:45 p.m. (Suggest removal)

BTW, By me denying religion shows that I am not a coward, and also shows that I DO think for myself!

Posted by SpiderJohn on September 5, 2008 at 2:46 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Wow, so some on here believe they have the right to decide who should be allowed in America and shouldn't?

Some posters actually believe everything they find on the web?

The majority of the links I have followed are propaganda and in no way give a balanced and fair opinion.

I ti s also amazing how the same people are fighting the same fight over and over again.

And what is with all the socialist stuff? Because I want to have affordable health care, because I want a justice department that represents JUSTICE and not partisan politics? Because I am tired of the rich getting richer off the backs of the middle class? Because I think big business should be forced to keep jobs in America if they want any type of tax break?

Those are the things that make me a socialist?

What is wrong with you people. We are all Americans and we can only stand if united. This petty name calling and mean thinking is what is causing all the problems.

And the posters that keep putting up fibs should be ashamed of themselves.

Posted by msplacedinsc on September 5, 2008 at 2:46 p.m. (Suggest removal)

RW,

Wake up buddy nap time is over! You and your cronnies think that in a troubled world a US Preident would strip the military down? Good god man, are you that stupid? You think he'll not keep us safe? Hello... anybody in there? Obama is a "pull-youself-up from the boots strap' person. He's educated and open minded. Typical rhetoric from a GOP backer. In the almost 7 years has Bush ever safely guarded the US borders? NO! Opps that's..... HECK NO!

You see this what's hurting America. Old ideals for the GOP and people who are braiwashed to believe it. I wonder RW, did you ever take the time and read Alan Greenspan latest book? You do know what a book is...right? I know you can read you big-ole corn bread sissy, Alan wrote that Bill Clinton was the best Demo/Republican President who understood about being $$ fisical? Any of this getting through?

Rebuplicans don't like Warren Buffet? Right but they sure love to ride his coat tails for the $$$...

We'll chat again real soon Forest Gump

Posted by SpiderJohn on September 5, 2008 at 2:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Taking a poll.....

Who on here is rich. I am not talking about in love or health or political views. I mean monetarily. And I don't mean the 5 million that McCain thinks is rich, I'm talking about being completely comfortable and not worrying about gas prices, grocery tabs, etc...

This will assist me in future analysis of postings.

Posted by SpiderJohn on September 5, 2008 at 3:03 p.m. (Suggest removal)

RW, what is your annual income?

This will help me with understanding where you are coming from.

Thank you for participating.

Posted by SpiderJohn on September 5, 2008 at 3:18 p.m. (Suggest removal)

OK - RW must be uncomfortable with disclosing some information, but not affraid to question someone's religious views.

I am so glad that he opted to give a civics lesson to us all. Next he'll be offering baptize us all. weeeeeee I can't wait.

Posted by SpiderJohn on September 5, 2008 at 3:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Yes, I am trying to disern what the motivation for posters.

Not judging, just trying to wrap my brain around people's positions.

I am also middle class, struggling, but middle class.

Posted by msplacedinsc on September 5, 2008 at 3:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Spider,

I have no qualms, I am a developer of commerical & residential property and my wife is a local physican. In a nut shell "no worries mate" Our income far exceeds the $400k a yr. Oh, we have 6 open minded, well educated children. We are well traveled and are very blessed and thankful we live in the USA cause we have seen many situations around the world that would make goat puke. My family is not one of those "I'm entitled because we are comfortable" and both sets of grandparents are blue collar, hard work middle class.

My family fully understands the BS that both parties throw out and we are intelligent enough to debate the issues and we will support the best canidate from either party that best represents our views that are not just the USA but the global world as well, cause the world does not revolve around the USA anymore.

Sorry to ruin anybodies day RW!

Posted by SpiderJohn on September 5, 2008 at 3:31 p.m. (Suggest removal)

No need to be so put off. Since I am new, I am trying to figure this all out and to understand why the need to fight.

Many posters seem geared up for a fight!

Posted by SpiderJohn on September 5, 2008 at 3:45 p.m. (Suggest removal)

RW - religion must be a touchy subject for you. It is not my intent to pick a fight. Religion is a pet peeve of mine, and I did not respond well.

msplaced - thank you for being forthright. I also agree with your view of returning home. I have found many places in the world that always make returning to the US terrific.

I also am interested in how people form their views. What are their drivers and what makes them tick. I have found that some people look down from their perch and forget about the less fortunate in our society with disdain. And I have also found wonderful people struggling daily and they hold no grudges for people with more.

It sure is a strange strange place that we are lucky enough to call home!

Posted by SpiderJohn on September 5, 2008 at 3:55 p.m. (Suggest removal)

RW - I will take issue with your "no holding back" attack on me. I am not a "lefty", I only asked a question.

No need to get your panties all up in a wad, Pal!

I take it from some of your other posts that you are use to attacking and being attacked. No worries, I am not out to get you or put you down.

Posted by msplacedinsc on September 5, 2008 at 3:59 p.m. (Suggest removal)

RW,

You got alot of anger in your heart brother! It's that narrow minded attitude, "I don't care what the rest of the world thinks of the US". I hate to piss you off more but the majority of Democrats love america, I guess that's another GOP myth that tries to stick on the wall but it doesn't. Don't generalize, that's so typical of the GOP backer, it's ugly!

RW, if you can't see the world up close then turn off the dish t.v. and read some books about the world ok? And maybe you'll learn the world has lots of good and bad in it just like here in the good-ole-usa. Good are the open minded people who want to change the world and make it better, not the bad folks who are closed minded and want people to do and believe what they want? You see......? It's all good!

Posted by Sandy37 on September 6, 2008 at 1:42 a.m. (Suggest removal)

MY PRAYER IS THAT ONLY PERSONS WHO SUPPORT BUSH/CHANEY ARE THE ONES WHO DIE IN IRAQ. I ALSO PRAY FOR OUR GOVERNMENT TO IMPOSE A CONSUPTION TAX ONLY ON EVERYTHING BOUGHT AND SOLD INCLUDING INVESTMENTS OF PROPERTY, STOCKS AND BONDS. THEN ALL WOULD BE FAIR FOR THE RICH AND THE POOR.

Posted by Sandy37 on September 6, 2008 at 1:47 a.m. (Suggest removal)

OH, YES I AM A DEMOCRAT WHO SUPPORTS OBAMA/BIDEN AND I AM AN OLD WHITE LADY.

Posted by jammer on September 6, 2008 at 7:15 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Palin has a 90% approval rating from "the people" of her state

that says more about her than anything else, she's obvioulsy taking care of the peoples needs no matter what side of the fence they are on

say what you want but she's getting the things done the people of that state want... wouldn't we all like to have someone like that here??? never happen here

I wouldn't vote for Graham if he was the only one on the ticket, I can't believe he's still in office... he makes all of us in this state look like a bunch of idiots

Sandy I think it's time you checked into that assisted living plan... it seems you can no longer think for yourself

Posted by a_set_love on September 6, 2008 at 9:38 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Oh well, Looks like the Liberal Socialists have given up on South Carolina and..... This just in, Obamas cohorts announce a massive scale back in Georgia.

There's two states they have decided that don't matter to them.

The Liberal Socialists who have installed Obama as their candidate stand for expanding government control into every aspect of your life, cradle to grave.

The Republican party and lots of cross-over Democrats voted McCain as their candidate, using the old and antiquated method of "One man One vote. John McCain stands for going into government with a Louieville slugger and beating it into shape to serve us better....NoBAMA-08

Posted by a_set_love on September 6, 2008 at 8:20 p.m. (Suggest removal)

It now appears that democrats have traded in their jackass as a mascot and replaced it with a Zebra....NoBAMA-08

Posted by sgtpsycho on September 7, 2008 at 11:14 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Obama is a creation of unknown entities. He has no real paper trail; he is the product of the Socialist-Ba'athist party which brought Asaad and Hussein to power. His association with Ayers and Farrakhan proves this. he is a Racist who will take the Oath on the Koran and unleash a Communist/secular islamic bloodbath in the United States.
There have been no futher attacks since 9-11-01 because the wolf is already in the fold. The goal of the power behind him is the complete destruction of America.