Group wants workplace raids halted

gramma35 (anonymous) says...

Why do you people keep defending illegal immigrants?I mean if there here legally that's no problem.Anyone with children understands someone trying to make a better life for there family,but if there here illegally that's just wrong.I'm not just talking about hispanics i mean all illegals.Just look there taking our jobs,our neighborhoods,our social security,and our way of life.When does it end?Ihope Obama can fix this soon.Otherwise our economy situation is just gonna get worse.

November 12, 2008 at 2:28 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

lemonhead (anonymous) says...

if they dont want to be seperated from their families,maybe they should of not come here illegally,is hard enough to find a job when they all come here and take them,maybe if they are sent back the americans can take back their country and those that cant find jobs will have a chance to get one,they want to stay do it the legal way and then come back.

November 12, 2008 at 4:57 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

NativeSon (anonymous) says...

Unfortunately, gramma35, your friend obama wants to kiss their butts and give them amnesty.

I agree, however that these people are extremely selfish for entering the US illegally because they could care less about their families situation once they are caught. And they do not give a damn about Americans loosing their jobs to their onslaught.

I also believe that local police and sheriffs departments have a responsibility and obligation to the citizens to enforce ALL laws including illegal entrants laws. That is why they are called, "LAW ENFORCEMENT" officers. If they do not want to do their job dump the turds and get officers who will.

November 12, 2008 at 5:35 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

moonpie (anonymous) says...

"It was disturbing to see that kind of raid in America, which claims to be a welcoming country."

YEAH THE GOOD REV DOESN'T MENTION HOW DISTURBING IT WAS FOR THEM TO COME HERE BY BREAKING OUR IMMIGRATION LAWS WHILE THE ICE,POLICE,GOV DID NOTHING UNTIL NOW.

Your young men are killing each other at such an alarming rate and now its spilling over to the community (see CSU story)(oh yeah they will be black even though P&C didn't say so) that you should have enough to do tackling this and un-wed teenage mothers (70%) to keep you busy the remainer of you life sir. Quit worring about the USA rounding up illegals.

November 12, 2008 at 5:54 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Cid95 (anonymous) says...

"It's very common for me to get calls from people who are very confused and upset."

Solution to avoid confusion and being upset: Don't enter a country illegally and then work in said country illegally. Then you won't be subject to the confusing and upsetting result of being lawfully arrested and deported.

November 12, 2008 at 5:56 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

EqualityB4theLawThinkAgain (anonymous) says...

I think that the employers of illegal aliens need to be taken to task. If employers were heavily fined or jailed for hiring illegals, the illegals would not be able to find work and would move on. Likewise, this outcry against racial profiling is a bunch of junk. If it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck, it isn't a pig. Rev. Darby is generally a pretty sharp speaker, but I think you've missed the boat on this one.

November 12, 2008 at 6 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

blk_avenger (anonymous) says...

Please people,think this through. The illegal wouldn't come here if our businesses weren't hiring them. Some fat cat doesn't want to pay an american a decent wage to do a job.

He wants to have his business flourish with our money,but doesn't want to hire any americans to do the jobs.

I agree with Rocky D, if we stop the jobs and the freebies,they will go elsewhere.

November 12, 2008 at 6:07 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

NativeSon (anonymous) says...

If you KNOW of a company that hires illegals, you should confront that company agressively, as a community or even as an American citizen.

Don't call the police, they do not want to earn their pay by enforcing ALL laws that they have sworn to enforce. Call ICE and then confront the business with pickets, with public notices in the paper of these treasonist companies and by outing these scum on the internet.

November 12, 2008 at 6:13 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

ColdBud (anonymous) says...

Posted by EqualityB4theLawThinkAgain on November 12, 2008 at 6 a.m.: I think that the employers of illegal aliens need to be taken to task.

BINGO! That is the only real solution.

Rev. Joe Darby's cult and the Christian Action Council cult need to be schooled in United States Law.

November 12, 2008 at 6:54 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

drkralc (anonymous) says...

Enforce the laws and adjudicate those responsible for defying them.

November 12, 2008 at 6:58 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

islandbenzbc (anonymous) says...

The illegals will go home if they cannot work here...make the punishment for hiring illegals harsh enough and the problem will take care of itself. Also, no social sevices and freebies for anyone who cannot prove citizenship...GO HOME!!!!

November 12, 2008 at 7:20 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

islandbenzbc (anonymous) says...

Also, Joe Darby and the SCACLU can can go with them if they are more worried about the illegals than they are about their own country...

November 12, 2008 at 7:24 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

theronce (anonymous) says...

So many good posts this AM including Cid95...and do bring the house down on the employers. JimIslander, get a grip...I personally know of several libs, nearly commies, that not only employ but also house their own personal illegals...and use them as a status symbol to talk about at dinner parties.

November 12, 2008 at 7:28 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

MP (anonymous) says...

Yes, the raids are based on profiling. You don't see a bunch of old ladies from Canada illegally coming across our borders by the millions. The key word in all of this is ILLEGAL. American citizens break laws and they get fines, criminal records, lose their jobs, etc. People from other countries ILLEGALLY enter ours, and the bleeding hearts whine about us trying to catch them and send them back. Let this group just go with them. I think more raids are in order. A lot more.

November 12, 2008 at 7:40 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

zekemire (anonymous) says...

Ridiculous! The immigration laws are very clear and should be followed to the letter! Arrest them, arrest those helping them and deport them without delay! We shouls also demand that those children born here to parents or a parent who is here illegally shall not be granted automatic US citizenship!

November 12, 2008 at 7:58 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

ColdBud (anonymous) says...

I don't understand how people can expect law enforcement to fight certain types of crimes if they don't profile citizens based on whom, how and where crimes are committed. If you have a particular group of people committing a particular crime that you need to target, that group of people needs to be profiled. It doesn't matter to me if the profiling is based on age, sex, race, religious affiliation, hair color or pants size... I just don't care. Profile away and get crime under control! If a policeman stops me and asks me some questions simply because I fall in to a group of people that are frequently committing a certain type of crime... I don't care. I'd consider it to be doing my part in helping to stop the crime. The profiling should not go so far as to invade the privacy of an individual, but asking a few questions of an individual doesn't seem like that big of a deal to me.

November 12, 2008 at 7:58 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

commonsence (anonymous) says...

Native...once again introducing Obama into this topic when the repubs are the only party to have actually given illegals amnesty. I hope the citizens of both parties will stand up to any politician who suggests anything like amnesty in the future.

Maybe Rev. Darby can also thank ICE for their job creation efforts as well...300+ jobs have recently come open in Greenville thanks to their efforts.

November 12, 2008 at 8:04 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

metallic (anonymous) says...

My complaint is not so much about the action against illegals, but the "secret police" like actions by ICE when doing these raids.

If law enforcement makes arrests, those arrests are a matter of public record. The media and public at large can go to the arresting agency and review the arrest records seeing exactly who has been arrested and learning where they are being held along with the charges.

ICE arrests people, accusing them of being "illegal" then plays a game of "hide and seek" with any interested parties seeking information about those arrested.

It is "scary" to see the government acting in such ways. I'm much more afraid of our government and its actions destroying our freedoms, than I am of people coming to this country seeking to work!

Just like "the war on drugs" the new "war on illegal immigrants" is looking like another situation where the "cure" will be worse than the disease.

November 12, 2008 at 8:19 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

ColdBud (anonymous) says...

JimIslander, I'm guessing from the context of your post, and the time of day, that you're posting before you go to school? If I were you, I'd pay extra attention to the Reading Comprehension portion of your courses today.

Where did I ever mention searches in my post? Hint... I didn't. A search would be contrary to my post as I stated "The profiling should not go so far as to invade the privacy of an individual, but asking a few questions of an individual doesn't seem like that big of a deal to me."

As far as me becoming a target.. a target of what? Someone asking me questions as I stated in my post? So what??? I have nothing to hide. I don't mind answering a few questions. Law abiding citizens don't.

Read the posts before you comment on them spanky, john, jim or whoever you are. You'll look less foolish.

November 12, 2008 at 8:32 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

foxfire (anonymous) says...

Why don't We ship these IMMIGRANTS to Iraq or Afghanistan and see if thay want to fight for the country thay want to live in.

November 12, 2008 at 8:32 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

singleroni (anonymous) says...

seems like they are getting involved in company politics, maybe their tax exempt status should be changed

November 12, 2008 at 8:33 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Popeye (anonymous) says...

Wait a minute Charleston residents. I see post after post about illegal aliens and sending them back home and raiding work places (BOTH of which I approve of and support). But then when I see the election results in South Carolina I see that the voters of that state returned a traitor like Lindsey Graham to the US Senate, where he can and will side with the Democrap Party in passing an illegal alien amnesty bill within the next year! Can someone explain that to me? Seems like folks talking out of BOTH sides of their mouth!

November 12, 2008 at 8:45 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

theronce (anonymous) says...

Also, Darby's group seems to be hijacking the term "Christian". Biblically, God establishes all governments. Christ said to pay your taxes. The Bible is full of admonitions to follow the laws of the government at the time, including capital punishment. The only exceptions to this is when the government law conflicted with God's law. For the most part, we have enough immigration laws, and none of them are harmful to anyone.

November 12, 2008 at 8:50 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

512c (anonymous) says...

not only do they waste our tax $ putting them in prisons, they drug them up and beat them. This is stupid.
Foxfire, why don't you go to iraq of afghanistan. but, then, i wouldn't wish you or anyone else on these poor folks. yeh yeh the taliban may have sent some terrorist over here... so, do you think cuba or chile, or vietmnamnese people came over here and premptively sat on our faces?
well, they deserve it, but don't do it. why? because they can't and, they hopefully realize we are changing, and they are better than that, to go around feeding fire with fire...

November 12, 2008 at 9:11 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Tides (anonymous) says...

Stop enforcing the law??? HAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!! MY GOD!

Oh! THAT'S RIGHT! OBAMA SAID IT WAS "TERRORISM" BEING COMMITED BY "ICE UNITS" ON HISPANIC COMMUNITIES!

GET THE HELL OUT OF MY COUNTRY YOU ILLEGAL SWINES. AND TAKE YOUR LINDSEY GRAHMNESTY WITH YOU!

November 12, 2008 at 9:17 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Tides (anonymous) says...

America is over with. It's down the toilet with these radicals like Obama in office.

Have you seen the news? Assault rifles and ammo sales have gone through the roof!

November 12, 2008 at 9:19 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Tides (anonymous) says...

Jane,

Because people are STUPID!

November 12, 2008 at 9:20 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

SimplyMad (anonymous) says...

commonsence, its very simple, if Obama along with the democrats and some republicans grant amnesty, the left gain a huge new voting block;

Immigration Groups Mobilize to Push for 'Pathway to Legalization' Under Obama
Wednesday, November 12, 2008
By Tiffany Gabbay

(CNSNews.com) Immigrant groups are calling on the incoming Obama administration to push for "just and humane immigration reform" and "a pathway to legalization"-amnesty and citizenship for illegal immigrants.

The National Capital Immigrant Coalition (NCIC) and the Fair Immigration Reform Movement (FIRM) held a press conference Tuesday at the National Press Club to announce a "mass mobilization" by illegal immigrants that is scheduled to take place in Washington, D.C., on Jan. 21-one day after the president-elect is sworn into office.
-----------------------------------------------------
How Barack Obama Will Ensure His Victory in 2012

The coup de grace Obama will use against rightist opposition is mostly embodied in one word: Amnesty. This, along with some other measures, will both grow the Hispanic voting block and ingratiate Obama to it. This will enable him to create a powerful coalition of blacks, young voters and Hispanics that, along with the older whites he will be able to retain, will constitute an insurmountable electoral force. And this is why amnesty has long been a dream of the Democrats.
The last time the left proposed amnesty for the 20-30 million (a realistic estimate) illegals in our nation, they were blocked by the Republicans.

Hispanics voted for Sens. Barack Obama and Joe Biden over Sen. John McCain and Gov. Sarah Palin by a margin of more than two-to-one in the 2008 presidential election, 66% versus 32% . . . . Latino youth, just as all youth nationwide, supported Obama over McCain by a lopsided margin - 76% versus 19%."

A new infusion of foreign-born Hispanic voters will tilt this block even further left, and it isn't hard to understand why. Most such people have a socialist political orientation, which is why governments in Mexico and much of central and South America also tend have one.

http://www.americanthinker.com/2008/1...

November 12, 2008 at 9:34 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

glevans (anonymous) says...

The problem here is that the US Government does NOT have an easy way to verify if a person is here illegally. I live in Texas (I used to live in Charleston) and there are companies here that have tried to find out if future employees are legal or not and they cannot get any information from the government on people. There has got to be a better way for companies to verify that these people are legally or illegally here in the US??? They file the infomation and get NO RESPONSE? Sometimes for years at a time? So how can companies follow the rules if the government won't help them?

November 12, 2008 at 9:37 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

islandbenzbc (anonymous) says...

I understand that Taco Bell and KFC are opening stores on the White House grounds...

November 12, 2008 at 9:54 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

gunlover (anonymous) says...

The illegal aliens need to serve 20 years hard labor then sent home, and any politician or lawyer that wants them to stay here need to serve 20 years of hard labor also.

Any illegal that tries to fly their home country's flag from a post office needs to be shot on sight.

And the illegals that come to this country to give birth to a child(anchor) needs to be immediately deported to their home country, and the kid goes with them.

November 12, 2008 at 10:36 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

ColdBud (anonymous) says...

JimIslander, again, reading comprehension... you really need to give it a shot.

Can you please copy and paste anything I posted that qualifies as "propaganda that has been disproven and repudiated by the republican party".

Anything?

I didn't think so. Maybe it's not a reading comprehension problem. If you are dealing with more serious mental issues, I offer my sympathy.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Caution: Before posting, check your comments for anything that could get your posting privileges revoked for anything that upsets the person currently censoring this website. Clicking post means you agree to abide by those terms or you didn't even read them and are going to post anyway.

November 12, 2008 at 10:37 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Rggr (anonymous) says...

"The council also said the raids unfairly separate detainees from their families, particularly children"

Our laws separate people from families all the time. Jails are full of people separated from families. This is a nonsense argument. The laws do not need to be overhauled - just enforced.

November 12, 2008 at 11:11 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

ColdBud (anonymous) says...

JimIslander, OK... your opinion differs from mine on that issue. A friend and I drove back to our old high school to see how it had changed in the years that we had been gone. It was dark when we drove through the lot. A policeman saw us, pulled us over as we were getting ready to leave and asked what we were up to. We told him. He let us go. No foul, no harm. It wasn't an invasion of my privacy. I didn't lose or give up any constitutional rights. I see no problem with the police asking a few questions of people when they have concerns that a crime might be involved. Our differences in opinion don't make either one of us stupid. In fact, those differencing opinions are what keeps everything in balance.

Still you said I "continue to post propaganda that has been disproven and repudiated by the republican party themselves". I asked you to copy and paste an example of where I've done that because I'm pretty sure I haven't done anything like that.

Can you not back up your own statements?

November 12, 2008 at 11:21 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

SimplyMad (anonymous) says...

JimIslander "The government, the police, no one has the right to invade someones privacy..."
"I am constantly amazed that some people are willing to compromise our constitution..."

First - illegal immigrants, have NO constitutional rights, they are not US citizens.
second - by being in the US illegaly, the are defacto breaking the law, therefore subject to what requirements that the LAW have in place; apprehension, questioning, departation.
third - you yourself are spitting on the very constitution that you act as if your so concerned about by the very fact that you dont want to enforce our border security and immigration laws.
fourth - breaking our immigration laws is not a "trivial" issue. Secure borders are the very foundation of a free society and its continued survival.

Employers that hire illegals, should be fined for breaking the law and forced to pay all enforcement fees, to include sending illegals home.

November 12, 2008 at 11:37 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

shoelaces (anonymous) says...

lemonhead:

Illegals take jobs that nobody else wants to do. The jobs aren't being created for them. The unskilled workers in the US are just too lazy to do these jobs because they can make enough money sitting on their lazy butts collecting their gov't cheese checks. Why work when you don't have to? Fortunately, the new administration will keep the gravy train running!!!

***BTW...I am all for deportation of illegal immigrants. Those who come here legally and truly contribute are more than welcome to stay. Those who break the laws coming here and break laws when they get here need to be targeted and removed.

November 12, 2008 at 11:44 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

SimplyMad (anonymous) says...

JimIslander - "Uh Jane... you do know McCain was born in Panama therefore not a "natural born" citizen of the US."

You are not being all that honest here Jimbo, McCain, being the dependent of a Military member, born overseas allows him the right under law for his parents to choose his home country.

My younger sisters were born in Belgium, when my father was stationed there for NATO, they were given US birth certificates.

****And this post in no way has me joining the "Obama isnt a citizen" argument. It is not an issue as far as I am concerned. There is not enough proof to support the arguement.***

November 12, 2008 at 11:45 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

SimplyMad (anonymous) says...

BTW, ColdBud is probably the least partisan or bias posters on here. If anything, with a few exceptions on the right, there are many more hate filled, bitter and plain vile left wing posters then right wing supporters.

November 12, 2008 at 11:48 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

ColdBud (anonymous) says...

Posted by JimIslander on November 12, 2008 at 11:34 a.m.: Coldbud, I wish this site had an ignore button. Anyone who has read your posts before the election has seen many examples of your political bias.

I might be wrong but I'd be willing to be that every single person in the United States that voted had a political bias one way or another. Are you seriously saying that having a political bias is a bad thing??? Or: are you saying that since my opinion is different than you on some subjects, you can't stand that fact that I am allowed to post? I think the later is more likely the case. You didn't complain about my "bias" in your previous post, you stated that I "continue to post propaganda that has been disproven and repudiated by the republican party themselves". What is your real concern? You've changed your statement with each post you have made. Again I would ask you to copy and past an example instead of just running your mouth. Yes, I supported and voted for McCain. He most closely represented my views on the issues that I considered important. I did not, however, post propaganda of any type. I explained why I was going to vote for McCain and I did so without tabloid bashing Obama. If you review my post, you'll see that I am NOT one of the politically insane people on here that continuously flame one candidate or another just for the sake of arguing politics all day. I did make one pretty funny Halloween joke about Obama. It was more in the name of humor than anything else and I still chuckle when I read that post :) Now that Obama has been elected, I'm supporting him as I do any President. I want him to succeed because it's in all of our best interest that he does. I'm not going to condemn than men before he has even had a chance to act.

BTW, you do have an Ignore button... it's the X at the top right of your screen. I don't think you really want to ignore me though. You've got too much to learn.

November 12, 2008 at 12:03 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

SimplyMad (anonymous) says...

JimIslander "Being of Latino descent does not mean they are "defacto breaking the law" as you state in your post."

I never said being of latino descent, anywhere in my posts.

"They have to be proven guilty in a court of law. Not rounded up en mass and then sorted through until the "good" ones are found and released."

If they are legal citizens, it should take no time to prove it at the time of being "rounded up". If they are illegal, they have no rights to our court system, are breaking the law, and should be sent back to their country of origin.

Again, what part of illegal alien verus US citizen do you not understand?

illegal alien - NO CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS.
US citizen - FULL constitutional rights.

You seem to keep bluring the lines between an illegal - one that has broken the law to get here and continues to break the law to earn money that is than sent to their respective country of origin un-taxed, (while US taxpayers pick up an ever increasing amount of bills for medical care, incarceration cost, and so on) and that of a LEGAL US citizen.

You should cross the Mexican border, get an illegal job there, and then get arrested...you will find out very quickly how welcome you would be their. Mexican prison sound familiar?
------------------------------------------------------
"The Mexican government mistreats 'indocumentados' that cross its territory, it keeps them in jails, in overcrowded conditions, many times without food, without medical attention and overall, violating their human rights."

http://www.vdare.com/awall/060518_mem...
-----------------------------------------------------

And no, I am not saying all illegals come from mexico, I am using this as a example what Mexico does to its illegals.

November 12, 2008 at 12:11 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

bigwhip (anonymous) says...

Wow!! These posts are an overwhelming denounciation of this
group's position (sccac). And Joe Darby is on the board of SCCAC. Every church and/or minister as a member of this group should have their tax exempt status revoked. Enough said.

November 12, 2008 at 12:14 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

cpanther515 (anonymous) says...

In the raid at Columbia Farms in Greenville they were looking for falsified documents like social security numbers of the employees. ICE had already arrested and prosecuted several supervisors at the plant for falsifying documents.
The raid netted over 300 ILLEGALS and the next day the jobs were filled with AMERICANS who had applied for jobs at the plant previously and were turned down.
Email you congressmen and senators and tell them you are fed up with the illegal alien problem and fix it.
This is not a republican or a democrat problem it's an American system that is broken and needs to be fixed...Now!

November 12, 2008 at 12:32 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

foxfire (anonymous) says...

Jane: If Obama was in fact an illegal alien. It would make NO difference. Because He is a Democrat.

November 12, 2008 at 12:45 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

guidedbystewart (anonymous) says...

Most Americans can concur that something needs to be done about illegal immigration.

Yet, even on a isssue I agree with many people on this post, their post still make them come across as idiots. Go, figure!

November 12, 2008 at 1:04 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

LadyM (anonymous) says...

It is now time for all the SC citizens to start telling your representatives that when they return in January you want them to strengthen H4400. This bill was only a start to help curb illegal immigration, not a final effort. Call them now and tell them that we want all immigration laws enforced and we want all counties to train for and be able to enforce the 287g program. We must do this now in order to have the strength to push much stronger immigration laws for SC in the coming year. Remember that the majority of voters across the country do now want another amnesty. We were promised in 1986 that there would not be another amnesty and we must remind them of that daily if necessary. So start now, call, email, fax, whatever it takes to get their attention. Also, if you haven't aready joined please join today www.numbersusa.com we will have a tough fight with Obama in office, since he has promised another amnesty.

November 12, 2008 at 1:21 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

ceecee (anonymous) says...

Jane - you are very creative. You found a way to bring up Obama's nationality in an article about immigration raids.

As was posted earlier, the only way I think you will be able to stop illegal immigration is to fine (heavily) the companies hiring them.

Let's assume that in every situation you can find and American who is willing to work for the same pay as an illegal immigrant. Since the illegal applicant will not collect unemployment, complain about working conditions, file sexual harassment charges (I'm just saying), etc. Most companies will still hire them. I realize all companies won't but many will. So when you detain and deport them they will return. You cannot arrest and deport the problem away. Money is what brought them here. Take away the opportunity to make money illegally and they will vanish all by themselves, we won't have to lift a finger.

These raids are just an exercise in futility (with our money). I mean seriously. What makes more sense? Spending the money to execute these raids and in the process making more commotion than you need (since they will return as long as there is money to be made) OR fine the companies hiring them (generate revenue, create more job openings, etc.) making the problem go away nice and quietly.

November 12, 2008 at 1:23 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

realman (anonymous) says...

We need to be more sensitive toward the needs of all illegal immigrant criminals.

November 12, 2008 at 1:36 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

tc1 (anonymous) says...

"It was disturbing to see that kind of raid in America, which claims to be a welcoming country."

Rev. Darby, that is as absurd, stupid, idiotic and illogical and as unbelievable as any of the worst racist statements I have seen on this forum. That is a hard level of insanity, or outright evil, to achieve.

November 12, 2008 at 1:43 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

glevans (anonymous) says...

Ok, they have social security cards, they speak english and they have slight accents. That is why they are trying to get verification about their citizenship. But they get no response from the US Government. So they hire them and then when they get raided, that is when they find out that they are using someone else's social security number. Seems like the government would be a little more helpful.

November 12, 2008 at 2:48 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

MMitchum (anonymous) says...

For you in the Lowcountry....please go to www.myspace.com/togetherwesoar
This is a lady trying to change the laws...her daughter is in the military and was raped by an illegal. She is called S.O.A.R. (Speaking Out Against Rape)
Her daughter was having a gathering at her home. The illegal decided just to walk in as if he belonged. The girl went to bed and this guy attacked and raped her. He had only been here illegal for 3 weeks. This is a few words from her blog...and I agree...if this was your daughter, niece, grand...would you want this illegal to get away with it...and also wonder what disease this scum bucket may have given her...or caused an unwanted pregnancy.
The day after the rape, while talking with the police, my parents were told that my rapist could not be tested for any STDs, HIV, or Hepatitis' because he has rights. This is a big issue that has had my mind frenzied because I don't understand how an illegal alien has rights. How he comes into the country I defend, who rapes me in my own home, in my own bed, and still manages to receive the rights he has not deserved.

Sorry people but I can not agree for illegals to have rights. In Greenville and Greer...just ride up there...walk the streets and the towns...ha...I lived there 1 1/2 years...so yes I saw, and the towns are taken over by illegals in certain areas....GO ICE!!!!!
Preacher you are way in left field on this! We have enough crime on our streets without inviting more.

November 12, 2008 at 2:58 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

shoelaces (anonymous) says...

What part of "ILLEGAL" don't these people understand? If it's a law enforce it. If you break the law face the consequences.

Plain and simple.

November 12, 2008 at 3:31 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Tides (anonymous) says...

I think "Coldbud" needs to be have his posting privileges revoked (again). He is always trying to shove his beliefs down other people's throat.

November 12, 2008 at 4:44 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

CHARLESTONIAN_SALVADOR (anonymous) says...

To all,
NO ONE TAKES A JOB FROM YOU THAT YOU DIDN'T WANT. IF WE ARE GOING TO TALK LAZINESS: ALL THOSE ON WELFARE, FOOD STAMPS, ETC... WHO MAKES THE MAJORITY OF THEM? AND ALSO, IF YOU THINK OBAMA IS KISSING THE "ILLEGALS'" BUTTS, WHY DID YOU VOTE HIM INTO OFFICE? I love to read everyone's comments! They are quite amuzing! First of all, you want everyone to speak English, when the majority have more errors in their grammar than I can type!

I guess I am safe by assuming all of you are "TRUE" Americans? Talk about blood lines etc.. Even if the illegals are kicked out of this country, our economy is not going to get better. They are not making the economy go sour. Didn't P. Bush did that by sending our troops and $$$ to the "Fight on Terrorism?" Just a thought.

That war has cuased us more money and debt into our GDP than all the illegals combined in this country.

November 12, 2008 at 5:24 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

geekguy2008 (anonymous) says...

The laws on immigration do NOT need to be 'overhauled', they need to be ENFORCED.

See, it's like this: the rich business owners also own the politicians. Therefore, the 'gubment' is more likely to "skirt the issue" rather than fine those companies (who gave them campaign money) for hiring the illegals.

November 12, 2008 at 6:54 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

ColdBud (anonymous) says...

Tides, calm down. I just state my opinions. I could care less if you agree with them or not. I'm certainly not shoving them down your throat. I try and state them in a mature way, without name calling or belittling. That's not always possible, but I make an attempt. People with opinions different than your own should be banned? Have you believed in such censorship your whole life or is this a new thing?

November 12, 2008 at 7:32 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

SCPDBLUE (anonymous) says...

The Rev. Joe Darby, president of the Council's board of directors and pastor at Morris Brown AME Church in Charleston. "It was disturbing to see that kind of raid in America, which claims to be a welcoming country." It seems to me that good Rev. Joe Draby doesnt know what the word ILLEGAL means.Well according to Websters Dictionary "Illegal means:Not lawful,Not sanctioned by official rules,criminal,illegitmate,illicit and wrongful.Yes we are a welcoming country but a country of laws and if you are here in this country ILLEGALLY you are violating the laws of the United States Of America there for subject to arrest and our deportaion back to your home country,Now if you play by the rules and laws of this country and come legally,I say welcome to my country and I can say this is my country because i have a real SS card,pay taxes both State and Federal. So Rev.Darby get off the PC train and do whats right by standing with your country not against it.

November 12, 2008 at 11:16 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

my2centsworth (anonymous) says...

separation of Church and State, people... remember the creed that keeps you off of the tax books and gives you authority to snub the IRS. My suggestion to you is this; if you are so worried about the consequences of the raids, regarding family left behind, etc, then start buying cots and blankets and other essentials because you're going to be stuck with them... We, the taxpayers, are tired of supporting them.

November 13, 2008 at 9:14 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Sadeyes (anonymous) says...

When my ancestors arrived in America (legally), they worshiped the ground they walked on. They had great respect for the flag and what it stands for. They enlisted in the military and even fought against their homeland proving their pride and respect for America. The United States did not change to accommodate their lives. There was no dialing one to speak English. They learned English and were happy to do so. The government did not make the schools require students to learn the languages of the legal immigrants. Now our schools require students to learn Spanish beginning in elementary school! Why just Spanish anyway? There are many other legal immigrants that the country doesn't bend over backwards to please. I'm tired of going to my local store and having to turn a package around three times just to find ingredients or instruction written in English.
When illegals enter our country they do so knowing they are breaking the law. They come here and many have children to try and remain in America and we end up footing the bill. The parents know they are here illegally, so to keep from breaking up families, pack up the baby's and grab the ol' ladies and send them all back to their country! Then they can work to come here legally. I'd much rather pay taxes to deport them than to support them!
As far as raiding company's by racial profiling, please. Law enforcement has reason to believe there is illegal activity going on before they decide to raid anyone. Surveillance or an anonymous tip may lead to a raid and that is not just for illegals. Drug raids are another instance and do you think those people are treated as innocent until proven guilty? You may be surprised at how many drug raids prove no criminal activity.
Did any of you read in this paper a back in October about a man on a motorcycle that was killed when an illegal immigrant ran a red light? He was a friend of mine, and yes he was wearing a helmet. The illegal of course had no drivers license and had three prior charges for operating a vehicle without a drivers license! He should have been deported after he was caught the first time but instead was charged with disregarding a traffic control device and held on a $474.00 bond. If this illegal wasn't here, my friend may still be alive today. If it had been a US citizen that ran the red light, I don't think they would have gotten off with less than a manslaughter charge.
Illegal immigrants like many have already stated, are here illegally. They should be treated as criminals and forced to return from where they came from. If they have children born here, give them the option of taking them home with them or placing them for adoption. There's no free lunch here in America for the citizens that obey the laws, why should illegals have special advantages?
Keep up the raids and sting operations. It's about time our laws are enforced!

November 13, 2008 at 10:57 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

whiskeyagogo (anonymous) says...

Joe Darby has a gift for cherry picking his issues. There is an obvious need for lots of ministering within two miles of his church but that seems to escape his view.

November 13, 2008 at 3:50 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )