9-year-old's loved ones urge hit-and-run driver to come forward
The Post and Courier
Freddie Capers shows a picture of his son, 9-year-old Tyler Capers, who was struck and killed by a car Wednesday on Ladson Road. Tyler's sister, 17-year-old Courtney Besst, is at right.
To offer tips
--The Highway Patrol is asking the person driving the car that hit Tyler Capers to surrender by calling troopers at 953-6010 or by going in person to the trooper office at 8740 North Park Blvd., North Charleston, near Rivers Avenue and Otranto Road.
--Anyone who can offer tips about either a dark Dodge Neon sedan or a GMC Jimmy with front-end damage is asked to call troopers at the same number or Crime Stoppers at 554-1111.
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LADSON — Nine-year-old Fred Tyler Capers was trying to walk across Ladson Road to visit friends Wednesday night when a car hit him and kept going, state troopers and relatives said.
Troopers are still looking for the hit-and-run driver. They think the driver was in a dark vehicle that sustained front-end damage, though witnesses gave differing accounts of the vehicle's make and model.
The boy lived about a block from the accident scene, where his extended family gathered Thursday morning. They had spent a sleepless night grappling with profound sorrow and anger.
"Look at my beautiful son," Freddie Capers said, holding a picture of the youngest of his five children. "I'm going to miss this boy so much."
The youngster most knew as Tyler was an A and B student at Oakbrook Elementary School. He loved basketball and riding his bicycle. Capers said he had just enrolled him in the Sertoma Summerville youth football program.
Tyler had lived in the Charleston area his whole life, and in the Fairlawn subdivision for about two years, his father said. The family also has strong ties to New York City.
The accident happened at 10:13 p.m. where Lantern Drive, a residential street, meets Ladson Road, a busy four-lane highway with a 45-mph speed limit. There are no crosswalks in the area.
Witnesses told relatives that Tyler had been with a group of friends headed toward Tranquil Estates on the opposite side of Ladson Road, said Michael Capers, Tyler's uncle.
The car that hit him never stopped.
Dorchester County Chief Deputy Coroner Perida Moultrie said the boy was taken to nearby Summerville Medical Center, where he died at 10:49 p.m. He had cuts, bruises and abrasions all over his body, Moultrie said. Results of the autopsy were not available.
The Highway Patrol received conflicting accounts. Some bystanders described a dark GMC Jimmy sport utility vehicle leaving the scene; others said they saw a dark Dodge Neon sedan. Troopers were asking the public to call in tips about either type of vehicle with front-end damage.
Lance Cpl. Bob Beres said the vehicle was headed toward Dorchester Road. Beres urged the driver to surrender to troopers in person or to call them.
The family wanted the driver to come forward: man, woman, young or old. "This person who killed my son doesn't know how much he's changed the lives of everybody," Capers said. "My son Tyler, he was a great kid."
Reach Noah Haglund at 937-5550 or nhaglund@postandcourier.com.



Comments
My_50Cents_Worth (anonymous) says...
The loss of a child is something I would not wish on anyone. I hope the driver is found and this family is able to find peace in their lives.
May great memories of Tyler sustain you now and forever.
July 25, 2008 at 2:24 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
ForPnC (anonymous) says...
Again, my condolences to the family for such a tragic loss.
July 25, 2008 at 4 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
SummervilleResident (anonymous) says...
Boy oh boy, this is a tough one. I feel so sad for that childs family and friends.
I do wonder why a 9 year old was out after 10pm crossing a 4 lane highway tho. This could have been prevented!
I do hope they find the person who hit him, although other than leaving the scene, I'm not sure that driver is solely at fault here.
July 25, 2008 at 7:12 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Tammie (anonymous) says...
How could you not stop knowing you possibly hit someone?? By now, the heartless bastard who did it has seen and heard about this on the news. You need to come forward if you read the paper!
My condolences and prayers are with the family of the deceased.
July 25, 2008 at 7:23 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
ms_lady2u (anonymous) says...
I am so sorry to hear about such a tragedy, They said the boy was with a group of friends & did'nt specified any ages , so for those of you who is wondering why he was out at 10pm, keep wondering, The fact of the matter is that we have a family that lost a beautiful young man, and a conscious- free jerk that is on the loose!!
July 25, 2008 at 7:38 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
number1volsfan1 (anonymous) says...
No, this is not Dad's fault. Dad may question his judgement, but not (even close) to being his fault.
Find the scum that ran away from the scene after killing the boy and put him or her away.
July 25, 2008 at 7:40 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
beth1070 (anonymous) says...
This is so heart breaking. There is nothing more horrible than the loss of a child. I pray that the family will find peace and that the responsible individual(s) will come forward and do the right thing. I agree with some of the other posters, why was this child out so late? There are just too many nuts in this world to let a young child roam the streets at night.
July 25, 2008 at 7:48 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
DARKKNIGHT76 (anonymous) says...
It is sad that anyone loses a child or anyone for that matter, but this young man on many occasions had been out running the streets late at night and his parents were aware and so was the police because he and his group of friends were responsible for many of the thefts in that neighborhood. That is not all that went on over there, but I guess all that is irrevelant. It is sad that he didn't stay home at his mothers request, and terrible that the person who did it, won't turn himself in.
July 25, 2008 at 7:50 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
coolfreaknbeans (anonymous) says...
DARKKNIGHT76 -Thanks for the info.How do you know all of this?
July 25, 2008 at 8:02 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
grannyofsix (anonymous) says...
DARKKNIGHT76 and you know this how?
July 25, 2008 at 8:03 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
number1volsfan1 (anonymous) says...
Evilgenius--I see small kids (6-10 years old) alone or with equally young friends walking in my neighborhood as late as 10 PM. I am not sure if these parents are neglectful or just naive. We cannot allow our children the freedoms we had when we were young.
More (and faster) vehicles, negative societal influences, and higher crime rates are reason alone (just to name a few). Would I allow my 9 Y/O to be out past dark? To wonder from home unattended? Hell NO. But I will not go as far as saying the Dad caused this tragedy.
July 25, 2008 at 8:13 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
jeff61 (anonymous) says...
Posted by DARKKNIGHT76 on July 25, 2008 at 7:50 a.m. (Suggest removal)
this young man on many occasions had been out running the streets late at night and his parents were aware and so was the police because he and his group of friends were responsible for many of the thefts in that neighborhood. That is not all that went on over there,
Is this an actual fact?
This would explain why this group of kids was out at 10:13 at night without adult supervision. I agreee it is sad a child was hit and I offer my condolences but I agree with most here and stand by post of last night,, reguardless of the time these kids should not have been out on a 4 lane highway. If someone responsible was with them to prevent this there would be no issue of the driver to come forward.
July 25, 2008 at 8:15 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
SummervilleResident (anonymous) says...
The driver could be a drunk driver, it could be a scared driver, or it could be a driver that thought they hit an animal, object, or something else. Nobody knows....I do hope that person will recall what happened and show themself, but it still doesn't change anything.
Why was that child out crossing a 4 lane highway after 10pm at night? I can't help but think the reports would indicate whether he was with an adult or not, knowing what everyone would wonder and so far, nothing is saying he was with any adults.
July 25, 2008 at 8:16 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
sj301 (anonymous) says...
This morning's TV news indicated the mother "went to bed early, and thought he was in his room playing video games". And someone (may have been the mother) was shown in an interview citing "everybody has a time, it was just his time".
July 25, 2008 at 8:20 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
ln1959 (anonymous) says...
My condolence goes out to this family. It is very hard to lose a child. I have seen the hurt on parents that loses grown kids before them, so I could not even imagine how this family feel losing a 9 year old.
Drive, turn yourself in.
July 25, 2008 at 8:21 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
SCgal (anonymous) says...
To the family~ May your memories and friends surround and bring comfort to you during this sad time.
July 25, 2008 at 8:26 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
charlene68 (anonymous) says...
My condolences to this family. I hope they catch the scum that did this .
July 25, 2008 at 8:36 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
DARKKNIGHT76 (anonymous) says...
responding to coolfreaknbeans and granny of six....I happen to know this because I live in this neighborhood, and am quite aware of what goes on in my neighborhood, the police have looked for Tyler and his friends before in our neighborhood in questioning him on some thefts and some other things. All the kids know about him and his thieving as well. The older guys that he hangs out with are drug dealers and they hang out on the corners of our streets selling drugs. Dorchester County Cops are well aware of that too and it won't be long before things go down on them too.
July 25, 2008 at 8:38 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
10216340 (anonymous) says...
This truly is a terrible loss for the family. It doesn't sound like the driver was at fault in the accident, only fleeing the scene. Hopefully the person will come foreward or be caught and we can find out why they didn't stop.
The other issue of this young man being out so late, apparantly unsupervised is, I believe, the real cause of this accident. I won't even let my 15 (almost 16 year old) out that late at night without adult supervision. What where they thinking?
July 25, 2008 at 8:40 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
10216340 (anonymous) says...
Darkknight76....thanks for the additional information. Evidently the parents ARE real idiots. Guess the true culprits in this accident are the parents of this unsupervised little boy. The driver still needs to turn himself/herself in and pay for leaving the scene of an accident but the parents should be looked at by DSS.
July 25, 2008 at 8:46 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Brutus1 (anonymous) says...
Nowadays there are so many heartless people out in the world that has no respect for any human life. I am so discusted how some people commented on yesterdays post. I am from the Charleston area and I am so sad that ther are people like that living in my community. That was a little boy that was killed. Doesnt matter what race or what time of night he was out. He will be missed by his family and friends.
July 25, 2008 at 8:57 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
jeff61 (anonymous) says...
Darkknight76....thanks for the additional information. It seems there is always another side of a story and this may explain the big question being asked as to why they out....I hope your neighborhood gets cleaned up and maybe his friends will now turn thier lives around... Granted the lose of a child is terrible but I I have to agree with 10216340
July 25, 2008 at 8:59 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
oldglory (anonymous) says...
Evil - "This is your fault Dad!"
"Why was thid boy out so late at 9 years old."
Summerville - "I do wonder why a 9 year old was out after 10pm crossing a 4 lane highway tho. This could have been prevented!"
number1volsfan1 - you seemed to objectively read this article. Hooray for you!
If this information is correct -
"The youngster most knew as Tyler was an A and B student at Oakbrook Elementary School. He loved basketball and riding his bicycle. Capers said he had just enrolled him in the Sertoma Summerville youth football program."
then, it would seem unlikely that his family negligently contributed to his death as seems to be suggested by some here. Perhaps his family was naive in thinking that the boy stayed in the house after dark, but that doesn't make the family guilty of a crime.
It appears from a majority of the comments that you all lived in this neighborhood (at least DARKNIGHT), but this is what truly bothers me:
Every time there is an event such as this, people start pointing fingers of blame. Why? Half the time, the commentor reads only part of the article and/or ignores that there are few facts presented. Also, even those who live in that neighborhood (DARKNIGHT says he does) and "know" the facts, doesn't make those facts true. And just because someone has been "questioned" and/or "seen with someone" regarding an illegal activity, doesn't make that a fact, nor make them a bad guy. Everything you all say might be true or not, but hurling such accusations is very harmful and turns the victim into a suspect! Only an investigation will bring out the true facts.
I am very sorry for this child's family.
July 25, 2008 at 9:05 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
jeff61 (anonymous) says...
Posted by Brutus1 on July 25, 2008 at 8:57 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Doesnt matter what time of night he was out.
Sorry but yes it does matter....He never should have been out along a 4 lane highway at anytime with a "group of friends" and this never would have happened...Again the family has my condolences. This death reminds me of the 3 three year old that was hit in Charleston some months back. Again a small child that had should not have been trying to cross the road without an adult.
July 25, 2008 at 9:06 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
I_Love_d_Peninsula (anonymous) says...
I used to go to bed before my kids all the time, and most times I still do, because I work all day and when I come home I take care of my house then I am out for the count. One evening my daughter woke me up and said that a police officer wanted to speak to me. I was half asleep but I jumped up and went into my livingroom where the officer was and he told me that he was inquiring whether or not I knew these 2 young men (boys 14-15) that my 14 year old daughter had been talking to outside my home at 12 midnight! I thanked him profusely and told him that we did know the boys, they were her school friends. That goes to show how kids are. And I am a very good parent.
Stop asking the question why he was out at that time of night. simply put, he got up and left the house without asking his mom or dad, very simple. My daughter didn't wake me up to ask permission to go outside and talk with her friends either, because she knows what the answer would have been. the people who think that this parent would actually have allowed her 9 yr. old baby to leave the house at that time of night is just looking for a reason to place the blame on this suffering parent. SHAME ON YOU.
July 25, 2008 at 9:07 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Brutus1 (anonymous) says...
jeff61, you are missing my point.
July 25, 2008 at 9:09 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
I_Love_d_Peninsula (anonymous) says...
And to dark knight
I guesss that makes it easier for you to justify his death. You're pathetic.
July 25, 2008 at 9:14 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
grannyofsix (anonymous) says...
I don't really care that he hung out with bad kids or that he may or may not be a bad boy. How did he have time to do the things he is allegedly done and still keep good grades in school?
But it really doesn't matter he was a baby who was brutally run down by a heartless piece of crap. As for the parents my heart goes out to you and your family. Please try not to let some of this heartless comment get to you concentrate on your memories of your son and ask God to keep you strong. MAY GOD BLESS YOU ALL.
I too lost a son I know the pain
July 25, 2008 at 9:17 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
kscooper22 (anonymous) says...
I feel bad for this family, but I was watching the news last night and for the mom to say that everyone has a "number" and that this was his "number" was just wrong...You don't say that about your child, and I think she should show some sympathy... During all the news broadcasting I have not seen her cry not one time.... It's like she don't even care that she just lost her child, and what kind of mother would let their child out the house at 10:00 at night, regardless if she was asleep... I personally think she should be charged with like child neglect because if she was keeping an eye on her child he would still be here with us...
July 25, 2008 at 9:17 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
DARKKNIGHT76 (anonymous) says...
responding to oldglory's comment....I understand that a child's life was lost here, but there are other facts of this as well, when your involved with things that you shouldn't be at that age things are going to happen. People take life for granted and you know and I know that this little boy should not of been out there this late at night on Ladson Road. Whether or not he was really going to Tranquill Estates....do you know how far that is from where he lived, anything could of happen to him, but unfortunately this happened. This is a wake up call to this family and other people, monitor your children and become involved in what they are doing and where they are going. This could have been prevented. What I commented on early are facts and they are not assumptions, I know this little boy.
July 25, 2008 at 9:17 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
nativecharlestongirl (anonymous) says...
How sad this is. My husband and I were watching this on the news last night and she said "His (Tyler) ticket was up" like when it's your time it's your time... Well I do believe that had this young boy had some real guidance and discipline in his life he would still be walking around today. You don't allow or tolerate your children to walk the streets with drug dealers and steal from people. Children these days need consequences for their actions.
Also if he were out walking with " a group of friends" and they were TRUE friends they would have more info to offer....
July 25, 2008 at 9:18 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
10216340 (anonymous) says...
Sorry, I_Love_d_Peninsula, I disagree with most all that you have said. It doesn't seem as if this was the FIRST time this young boy was out roaming the streets at night. This was a pattern of behavior. Do I blame the boy.....no, he was young and should have had supervision. I blame those who were responsible for making sure he was in a safe place.
I never go to bed before my 15 year old. If I'm tired than he goes to bed as well. As I said before, I won't let him go out unsurpervised after dark, much less around a 4-lane road.
I know the parents are hurting but the facts point directly at them. I am upset that this happened and I won't sugar coat it for the family. They messed up and now this little boy is gone.
July 25, 2008 at 9:20 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
jeff61 (anonymous) says...
witnesses gave differing accounts of the vehicle's make and model.
I wonder why this is...Are the witnesses the "group of friends". It appears other people witnessed this also..Maybe if they get together again they nail down the type of vehicle. Maybe one of them can now recall part of license plate... Oh sorry, I am forgetting that it was 10:13 at night and maybe just too dark to see anything??? I wonder who thought to look at their watch and record the precise time he was hit. Or is this when the call to 911 was made?
July 25, 2008 at 9:21 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Tammie (anonymous) says...
Maybe the mother used the phrases "It was his time" or "his ticket was up" as her way of dealing with it psychologically. By theory, a parent should never have to bury their child first, it's "supposed" to be the other way around. No matter what time of night it was, it's still sad that a child died and someone is riding around seemingly guilt free.
Just my opinion.
July 25, 2008 at 9:25 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
grannyofsix (anonymous) says...
10216340: I agree with you somewhat. When my daughter was 13 I was I thought very protective of her. My husband a did would not go to bed till all the kids were in bed and asleep we would check all doors and windows and lock them. We very seldom went to bed before 12. And once only once mind you my daughter snuck out her window and went to her friend's house whose parent were out of town for the night. My husband woke up to check the kids she was gone and her window open. Needless to say she got her due windows were then nailed shut in her room. What I am trying to say I done care how hard you try your kids will find a way. BTW my daughter is now 41 and says her but still hurts
July 25, 2008 at 9:37 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
grannyofsix (anonymous) says...
OK PARENT RAISE YOUR HANDS **IF** YOU STAY UP ALL NIGHT TO MAKE SURE YOUR KIDS DONT SNEAK OUT . EVERY NIGHT OF THEWEEK 24/7
July 25, 2008 at 9:41 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
TinaR (anonymous) says...
Like many of you, I cannot see any good reason for a 9 year old to be out unsupervised after 10 PM. Especially not trying to cross a 4 lane highway. I think there was a lack of supervision, not just by his parents but ALL the parents of the kids that he is with. It is a shame that this young man who was an A/B student lost his life, hopefully this will be a wake up call for his friends.
As for the comments that the mom has made... 1. Have you ever thought that she may be in shock or 2. This could be a highly religious family and when tradegy strikes, they are clinging to their faith and what their faith has told them is that God has a plan for everyone. Who knows, maybe God's plan for Tyler was to be an example (not just for his friends but people in the community) of what can happen by making 1 bad choice.
My heart goes out to his family. I hope that they are able in time to remember the good times, with him rather than letting how he died overshadow those memories.
July 25, 2008 at 9:43 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
I_Love_d_Peninsula (anonymous) says...
10216340 thats fine you can disagree. But kids will be kids. I can make my children go to bed, but that doesn't mean they will go to sleep or even stay in bed. There are plenty of nights I hear them milling around after I am in bed, sometimes I yell go to bed sometimes I don't. I guess I am a bad parent. I have one child in college about to graduate on time. my daughter is an international baccalauereate student on her my to study at an ivy league school, but again, I must be a bad parent too.
July 25, 2008 at 9:44 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Larz13 (anonymous) says...
I am usually not too compassionate or make excuses for people but here goes....
I would tend to give the mother a pass. She is grieving and has a camera and light shoved in her face at a difficult time. She is not a politician or reporter and probably had no preparation for this. Put your self in her situation and you would probably say things that didn't come out just as you wanted them.
OK...compassion over, now back to being a smart donkey.
July 25, 2008 at 9:44 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
kma71 (anonymous) says...
I have to agree with you granny. My mom was very watchful over all 5 of her kids, but yet every now and then 1 of us managed to sneak out. This is a tragedy and I hope they find the scumbag responsible!!
On a different note: where's ColdBeer? I haven't seen any comments from him this week. Vacation maybe?
July 25, 2008 at 9:50 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Hutch (anonymous) says...
Who knows the ways of our wonderful Lord,
I hope the coward driver of the car turns himself in.
My heartfelt condolence to the family
Hutch
July 25, 2008 at 9:50 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
I_Love_d_Peninsula (anonymous) says...
10216340 also how presumptuous of you to say that the driver wasn't at fault. were you there? maybe the driver was intoxicated. maybe the driver was driving with a suspended license or no insurance or talking on the phone, became distracted, or whatever, we don't know because he/she didn't stick around. The other day I saw a turtle in the street, I put on my hazards on and let the cars behind me go around me so that the turtle could get across safely. And that was a Turtle.
July 25, 2008 at 9:54 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
grannyofsix (anonymous) says...
TO ALL THE PERFECT PEOPLE WHO HAVE PERFECT LIVES AND PERFECT CHILDREN, GRANDCHILDREN,GREAT GRANDCHILDREN I SALUTE YOU.
Too bad the rest of us couldnt be that perfect.
July 25, 2008 at 9:57 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
DCartisan (anonymous) says...
Freddie, Lucy & family, stay strong and lean on God in your time or bereavement. He has greater plans for Tyler and remember that when our fellow man will turn their backs on you and let you down, God is there to carry you.
May God give you strength & comfort.
July 25, 2008 at 10:01 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
lmh1991 (anonymous) says...
I doubt the driver is guitless. He may feel very guilty. There needs to be more said about crossing the streets illegally (jay walking). This happens all the time people crossing streets on busy highways. Even if there is a street light or crosswalk light nearby they cross illegally. Again this boy crossed a four lane highway after 10:00. I feel sorry that his family lost him and I am sure his parents may feel guilty too but they should be charged with negligence. The driver would be charged with leaving the scene of an accident but he is not at fault for killing him.
July 25, 2008 at 10:01 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
ysillyme (anonymous) says...
EVILGENIUS~
AT first glance I thought you were being unduly harsh. Upon somber reflection, you were not harsh enough. Little kids should expect their parents will steer them in the way they should go. Pets are supervised better than this young child. Parents--no mercy here.
July 25, 2008 at 10:03 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
jeff61 (anonymous) says...
Posted by grannyofsix on July 25, 2008 at 9:37 a.m. (Suggest removal)
Needless to say she got her due
As she desevered and I hope she learned her lesson
windows were then nailed shut in her room.
But what if there was a fire and this was only means of escape.
Should not have to resort to this. If the child fails to listen and repeats this behavior of sneaking out and roaming the streets then there is a problem and needs to be corrected in some manner.
July 25, 2008 at 10:03 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
jeff61 (anonymous) says...
Posted by Brutus1 on July 25, 2008 at 9:09 a.m. (Suggest removal)
jeff61, you are missing my point.
No, I respectfully disagree. I really think you are missing the point and most others point. This tragedy will soon be repeated many more times if people keep missing the point.
July 25, 2008 at 10:09 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
CHRISJIII (anonymous) says...
Very sad. My condolences to the family of this little boy. I hope that who ever did this is caught and punished.
July 25, 2008 at 10:09 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
grannyofsix (anonymous) says...
We didn't give her the chance to repeat it and as I said she is 41 now owns her own company. And is a good citizen but I wasn't a perfect parent I leave that up to people like you jeff to be the perfect parent and to tell us how to raise our children. My goodness with out the perfects out there would be no one to look down on now would there
As fire as a fire it would not have been hard for to get out it only had one large pane. Could be broken easily.
July 25, 2008 at 10:18 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
nativecharlestongirl (anonymous) says...
No you can't watch your children 24/7 however your nine year old SHOULD NOT be outside walking the streets at night. Whatever happened to being a GOOD parent, not just a parent? Anyone can have children and make sure they have food and water but it is our responsibility to our children to instill morals and virtue, to teach them right from wrong, hold them accountable and the guide them to be good upstanding citizens and to give back to our community....
This young man was not shown ANY of the above in my opinion. I hope the mother realizes that she too had big part in all of this....
July 25, 2008 at 10:24 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Brutus1 (anonymous) says...
jeff61, you must work for the P&C. You read one thing in a comment and take it wrong. You just cant see my point. You must be a reporter. I quess you have all the answers? What should have been. My point was not whether he was killed at 10:00 p.m. or 10:00 a.m. No, he should not have been out that late at night. My children are home when it gets dark. My point is that some people nowadays do not value a human life and I am sad to see this where I live. And sir/ma'am please leave it at that.
July 25, 2008 at 10:31 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
10216340 (anonymous) says...
Folks, before any more people get all upset about the so called heartless comments here....keep in mind, based on what is in the article and what others (who live in the neighborhood and know the boy) have said, this was not a one-time incident. This little 9 year old didn't just decide to sneak out of the house this one time. It was a pattern of behavior (as I commented about before).
Now, get down off of YOUR high horse and realize that, yes, kids will be kids and NO parent can control them all the time but, this doesn't seem at all to be one of those situation.
Good parents will sometimes get caught unaware and find that their child has gotten themselves into something bad but those are the exceptions. Doesn't seem as if this is one of those cases.
Obviously the family is grieving and I'm sorry the little boy is gone.
July 25, 2008 at 10:39 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
UrGatorbait (anonymous) says...
Irrelevant of all the pious pontificating blowhards railing about why the child was out at 10 pm. He was hit and left for dead like an animal. What's hard to understand?
July 25, 2008 at 10:48 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
chucktonian (anonymous) says...
My condolences to the family. the hit and run driver should be found, arrested and brought to justice.
Now, the parents.
what was that kid doing out at night on a busy/dangerous road. something else people around here fail to realize: black people don't glow in the dark. you can't walk or ride your bicycle down a highway at night. people can't see you
July 25, 2008 at 10:51 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
grannyofsix (anonymous) says...
We can all give our opinions all, after all this is what we are here for but until all the facts are released and we know WHY he was out at this time we can really be sure. I am one of those who believe none of what I hear or read and half of what I see. Maybe some of you are neighbors of this little boy and know the family and some may not like them and would say what ever. ALL I KNOW RIGHT NOW is a child is dead because someone run him over killed him and never stopped. This makes HIM OR HER QUILTY the only thing the little boy is guilty of is being out late we don't know why he was.
To the family again MAY GOD BLESS YOU AT THIS TIME AND KEEP YOU STRONG
July 25, 2008 at 10:53 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
jeff61 (anonymous) says...
Posted by grannyofsix on July 25, 2008 at 10:18 a.m. (Suggest removal)
I leave that up to people like you jeff to be the perfect parent and to tell us how to raise our children.
Not a perfect parent and not telling anyone how to raise thier children. I probably would have nailed the window shut and nailed the kids ass also.
For those parents who have no problem letting thier children run the streets at night among other things... more power to ya but This is an example of what can happen..
My point is if a child continously sneaks out of the house and disobeys and other such behavior,, then I would say there is a problem that needs to be corrected, can't say I have the answer to what that is for each child but something like this and other terrible things will be repeated....
July 25, 2008 at 10:54 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
nativecharlestongirl (anonymous) says...
UrGatorbait yes this is a sad situation but what I think most people here are saying is this could/ should have never happened if she were a responsible parent. Who the hell let's their 9 year old run with drug dealers until all hours of the night. Are they suitable babysitters? I think that it is sad that he was hit by a car, even worse that the car left the scene HOWEVER what the hell was he doing out there night after night???????? I would like to see the mother charged in some way for neglect!
July 25, 2008 at 10:55 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
suec (anonymous) says...
Why hasn't the PnC asked the mother or a family member?
July 25, 2008 at 11:09 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
grannyofsix (anonymous) says...
jeff I do apology for my comment to you. Right now I am very emotional when it comes to the death of a young child. And some may not realize this but no matter how a young child dies most parents always feel it is there fault weather it is through natural cause or accident. My son has been gone over 39 years and I still fee quilt. (He had cystic phybrosis) so I do get emotional sorry jeff. (Sorry about the spelling of the illness)
July 25, 2008 at 11:11 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
I_Love_d_Peninsula (anonymous) says...
chucktonian
That was funny!
July 25, 2008 at 11:14 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
grannyofsix (anonymous) says...
I see nothing funny in what chucktonian posted. I am White and I am insulted by his/her last remark
July 25, 2008 at 11:18 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
jeff61 (anonymous) says...
Posted by grannyofsix on July 25, 2008 at 11:11 a.m. (Suggest removal)
jeff I do apology for my comment to you.
No apology needed granny... I have read your posts for a while now and I know you are a good person. Sorry for your loose.. but there was nothing you could have to prevent the lose of your child,, in this case it could have and should have been prevented. I do not think I could get through loosing a child. That is why I do what I can to prevent it if possible.
July 25, 2008 at 11:26 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Tammie (anonymous) says...
That wasn't funny what Chucktonian said either Granny. Glad he and Peninsula are having a cute lil chuckle.
July 25, 2008 at 11:28 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
grainofsalt (anonymous) says...
No offense Brutus - and I promise I'm not trying to further any back and forth between you and Jeff (or start one with you and me).
But I can't help responding. Your comment: "... I am so discusted how some people commented on yesterdays post. I am from the Charleston area and I am so sad that there are people like that living in my community. That was a little boy that was killed. Doesnt matter what race or what time of night he was out. He will be missed by his family and friends."
For the record, I too am from Charleston - though I don't know what it has to do with this story or any of these arguments. There are people with varied (sometimes knee-jerk) opinions in every part of the country.
Now, it's absolutely true that it's a tragedy - regardless of when it happened or why. And yea, some people jump the gun in pointing fingers. But you don't find your own comments a little knee-jerk? Everyone was talking about the time of night, but who brought up race? I've reread all of yesterday's posts (and all the ones leading up to yours today) and don't see where anyone mentioned the kid's race at all. Yet you bring it up as if it's a foregone conclusion.
MY point being... EVERYONE is capable of a little knee-jerking sometimes.
That said, I again agree that's it's a tragedy and I'm sure his family will miss him terribly.
If you'd left your post to that comment alone (which you claim was your only point), then...er... I guess I wouldn't have written this post. :-) ... I'm just sayin'...
July 25, 2008 at 11:35 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
jeff61 (anonymous) says...
Posted by Jane on July 25, 2008 at 11:22 a.m. (Suggest removal)
P.S. everyone keeps asking why the parents let him out that late at night...I saw the father on the news last night and he said they didn't realize he had snuck out of the house.
If some of the posts are correct by people that knew the kid...
"I happen to know this because I live in this neighborhood, The older guys that he hangs out with are drug dealers and they hang out on the corners of our streets selling drugs."
If this is accurate then it appears this was not a one time thing...
July 25, 2008 at 11:37 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
I_Love_d_Peninsula (anonymous) says...
I am black and I THOUGHT IT WAS FUNNY. Everybody should take a deep breathe and relax for a minute. Thank you chucktonian for the diversion, I think we were spinning out of control.
know lets focus:
a 9 yr. old boy was killed. Let us pray for the boy the family and friends. Amen.
July 25, 2008 at 11:39 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Tammie (anonymous) says...
Peninsula, I'm black too but the point is, a child is dead because of the actions of someone not wanting to stop. That's the point I'm getting at, I just didn't find humor in that comment.
July 25, 2008 at 11:44 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
usna04 (anonymous) says...
Ok, I'm 22, and I know that I would have NEVER even thought about sneaking out of my house when I was younger. Otherwise, the consequences would have not been fun. It's not just a 'scared' thing, but it's also a respect thing. My parents had kids because they knew they would love us the best they knew how and raise us well. Because I knew how much they loved me growing up, then I respected their wishes and kept my butt home in bed when I was supposed to. I think the parents can't necessarily control whether or not their kids are going out at 10 at night, but then again, don't have kids if you can't raise responsible ones! That is solely the parents' responsibility. And what's more, if they had been good respectable parents to begin with, then it's my belief the kid would have never left the house in the first place. I hate it for them, but I do believe this could have been prevented. I feel sorry for them, but more sorry for the little 9 year old boy. I guess all this is a little harsh, but it was how I was raised. If I got hit by a car when I was nine years old, and was out walking the streets at night, my father would never forgive himself - Not because he wasn't watching me, but because he would think he should have raised me better. It's nurture people.
July 25, 2008 at 11:48 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
MissPriss (anonymous) says...
Chuctonian- I hope you are having a great laugh at the expense of this family's tragedy.
This is a very sad situation, the boy snuck out, most kids do at least once or twice. That doesn't excuse the driver for hitting and leaving him. My thoughts and prayers are with this family.
Granny- I'm sorry for your loss.
July 25, 2008 at 11:52 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Southernized (anonymous) says...
My Condolences to the Family.
July 25, 2008 at 11:53 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
jeff61 (anonymous) says...
Posted by Brutus1 on July 25, 2008 at 10:31 a.m. (Suggest removal)
jeff61, you must work for the P&C. You just cant see my point. You must be a reporter. I quess you have all the answers?
No I do not work for the P&C and I am not a reporter.
However if I was a reporter I would be asking the family and many other people involved in this many of the same questions that are being asked here.
That may not make me a very popular reporter with some people and I may not get "all the answers" but at least I would attempt to get "some answers" and we can leave it at that.
July 25, 2008 at 11:54 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
msn2it (anonymous) says...
I am appalled at all of the negativity posted on here. Bottom line is - he was a beautiful little boy and he was killed by someone who doesn't have a heart. Don't you people think that they can lay him to rest before you start playing Almight God and condemn the parents for something that you read in the blessed newspaper for crying out loud? What happened to compassion? I hope nothing ever happens like this to you perfect people. God Bless this child and his family at a time like this. I don't care if they are the scum of the earth, they just lost their baby for petes sake.
July 25, 2008 at 11:58 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
10216340 (anonymous) says...
Yes usna04 - it is nurture.....for the vast majority of situations it comes down to that.
July 25, 2008 at 11:59 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
I_Love_d_Peninsula (anonymous) says...
Okay I understand that Tammmie,
but no one glows in the dark. It was a silly comment but when read it made me laugh. If you read my prior posts, I am sincerely sorry for young Tyler's life cut so short and for the family as well, even though the finger pointing has begun and of course race injected-because thats always on the forefront of most of these poster's minds- I feel very sorry for the family.
July 25, 2008 at 11:59 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
glevans (anonymous) says...
Come on people have some consideration for the family that lost their beautiful little boy. This IS NOT a racial thing...he was a living breathing human being until someone ran over him and didn't stop. Have some compassion please...the only thing that matters is that this wonderful family has lost something very precious to them and may never know who did it. His beautful smile is gone forever except in their hearts and minds. I am so sorry this happened to this family....
July 25, 2008 at 11:59 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
10216340 (anonymous) says...
OK, get over the race comment issues. One person made a comment (that he/she as well as some others thought was funny.....I didn't see it but....) and that was it. Don't make the issue that ONE comment please.....drop it already..
July 25, 2008 at 12:12 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Tammie (anonymous) says...
EG, I can understand scenario #1. Now, the driver faces several more terrible charges (i.e Leaving the scene of an accident involving death, etc.). I would have stopped. Then again, I have a conscience and the person who hit this young man appearently doesn't.
July 25, 2008 at 12:14 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
noname (anonymous) says...
UrGatorbait, you are exactly right. This child was left for dead! Had the two scumbags that hit this kid called for any type of assistance, this child may have been alive today. That could have very well been you or I on Ladson Road at 10pm, the cowards kept going!
We had a similar situation where that woman killed the motorcyclist, who has admitted that she had been drinking all damn day, and I don't see you high almighty folks(DARKKNIGHT76) beating up on a drunk who woke up and drank and left-over beer for breakfast.
Regardless of what if', both families are grieving the lost of a loved one due to someone's action behind the wheel!!!!!!
Condolences to the families of Robert Guerry & Tyler Capers.
July 25, 2008 at 12:45 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
jeff61 (anonymous) says...
scenario #3
Your driving down the dark Ladson Highway and this area is not well light, your distracted by a group of kids on the side of the road so your attention is focused on them. Then a child runs out in front of you from the group and most likely the driver did not see him. I doubt the person deliberately ran the child down.
Could it be the driver seen reaction of this "group friends" after hitting the child and was afraid to stop? I doubt it but it is possible
July 25, 2008 at 12:57 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
coolfreaknbeans (anonymous) says...
I don't think people post just to place blame.When a tragedy strikes such as this one,we as compassionate human beings,look for answers.We try to problem solve and prevent it from happening again.It would be obvious for all of us to post and post about how tragic it is an how sorry we are.But that doesnt help prevent it from happening again.We have to use tragedy to learn.From what a neighbor of theirs posted,they let this little boy run the streets.It doesnt sound like he snuck out once.If this is the case,it is child neglect/endangerment.Their lack of good parenting and common sense couldve caused this boys death.Like it or not parents are accountable for their childs actions.You are supposed to be the parent,not a roommate or buddy whos scared to say no.
July 25, 2008 at 12:57 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Lovely_One (anonymous) says...
I have said my condolences to the family on the other story and I offer them again.
This comment is directed to those here that say they know where their kids are at all time. When I am at work, I know where I dropped my kids off in the morning. I know where they should be, but I don't know where they are at every given moment as I am not with them. I would suspect that I have done a phenomenal job at raising them and they are doing exactly what they should be doing and not getting in trouble or doing something they know I would not approve of. However, there is always that possibility that kids will try their luck to see just how much they can get away with.
I know my parents raised my siblings and me to respect them and all adults (that deserved it) and to do the right thing, but there were times when I still did what I wanted to do. I would sneak out (the operative word is sneak because we would never do these things with our parents' knowledge) of my house and do things that I knew my parents would skin me alive for. I do not know the family or how they ran their home, but it is possible for your child to do things that you are unaware of.
July 25, 2008 at 1:07 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
jeff61 (anonymous) says...
It has been said many times here by others and the regular posters know this, "This is a newspaper comment section to allow the public to make comments on a story which you may or may not agree with"
Some comments maybe quite upsetting to friends and family members associated with the story.
This is not necessarily the section you want to leave expressions of condolences and sympathy for the family and friends associated with a story to come here and read. I am sure they would find much of it most upsetting.
Maybe the P&C could have a popup when the Comments button is clicked that indicates this and they may not want to proceed to this section.
The section to express condolences and sympathy is on the Obituary Tab. They have a very nice guest book to make condolences posts for the family and friends can read.
July 25, 2008 at 1:17 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
msn2it (anonymous) says...
I do not know this family, have never seen them, I am a white old woman, but I have love and compassion in my heart and I always try to think of how something I say or do would feel to the person who is wearing the shoe. This story is about a little boy dying, having lost his life in a manner in which none of us could even imagine the horror that he must have felt, if even for a fleeting second. It is not about judge and jury. It is not about right or wrong. Lord knows the the media is going to tell you the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. Personally, I believe in my heart that humans are extremely lacking in compassion, caring and feeling for their fellow man. And I am so sorry that life has come to this. I am attaching an article that I just read. Just for the heck of it. It's about a 5 year old who wanted to go to Hooters. http://www.wfaa.com/sharedcontent/dws...
July 25, 2008 at 1:26 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
prosperous_hb (anonymous) says...
This is truly a sad story. Despite the way this young boy was SUPPOSEDLY involved in bad activites, he did not deserve like this. He did not deserved to hit like a animal and left to die. I hope whoemever did this comes forward. I'm willing to bet though it was a drunk driver. I pray God's blessing over this family during this difficult time.
July 25, 2008 at 1:41 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
number1volsfan1 (anonymous) says...
msn2it
The point of your linked article is well taken. I will admit, children can sneak out without the knowledge of guardians. It is possible that happened in this case as well.
July 25, 2008 at 1:46 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
number1volsfan1 (anonymous) says...
Can't blame the 5 y/o for wanting to go to Hooters though....
July 25, 2008 at 1:47 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
willboredinsc (anonymous) says...
First off I send my heart felt prayers to the family as they mourn the loss of such a young child and I believe that the driver when found should face maximum jail time but can someone please explain to me why a 9 year old is allowed to cross a busy 4 lane road after 10 at night without a parent or even an adult. I live in the area and frequently see children as young as 7 run these streets with no adults as late as 3am. Parents need to start taking some responsibility because this could have happened to any of the young kids I've seen roaming this and my neighborhood. This could have been prevented.
July 25, 2008 at 1:50 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
jeff61 (anonymous) says...
Ok old white women, not trying to offend but your words...
I read this article you posted just for the heck of it. I am not sure what points you wish to make with it but here is what I found. First, even if the child opened a fire door to get out of the building he never should have been able to get off the property. Child Care Centers should be enclosed with a tall fence that would keep the younger kids within the center's grounds. If this center does not then maybe they should look into it. It also states this five year old said he looked both ways before crossing the road. Is this a point you wish to make with the article?
I don't rely on the media for the truth. I try to get it from several scores and the truth will be someone where in between.
July 25, 2008 at 1:52 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
msn2it (anonymous) says...
hehe number 1 fan... just injected some humor into an otherwise volatile conversation. Point is kids will be kids. But, some of the comments that are being made just show me how society really has changed from when I was a child. Different world out there today, that's for sure.
and Jeff, no offense taken. I'm very proud of my grey hair. The only comment that I can make to you is the truth you are getting from several scores, may not be the truth at all, but rather someone's opinion. There will only be a few people who truly know the truth. I just wish people would understand the difference.
July 25, 2008 at 2:12 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
reality_woman (anonymous) says...
It is a sad thing that has happend, but it should not have happend. I grew up in the big city and the street I lived on did not have near as much traffic as Ladson Rd. sees. I was not allowed out that late running around and not being watched by an adult. Sorry the parents must go through the loss of a child. You as his parents should have been more watchful this could have been prevented.
Parents must be responsibile for their children. It is not anyone elses jobs.
As for the person who did hit this child be responsible and turn yourself in. How can you live with yourself?
July 25, 2008 at 2:18 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
I_Love_d_Peninsula (anonymous) says...
jeff61:
In scenario #3- then the driver should have gone directly to the nearest police station and reported the incident. This may have saved Tyler's life. Instead he's dead because of the actions of someone, who has yet to come forward.
msn2it: very well said! a gold star 4 u *
July 25, 2008 at 2:29 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
sj301 (anonymous) says...
Chucktonian's remark wasn't perceived by all as funny..and may not have been intended that way....but the point made is simply a matter of fact.
July 25, 2008 at 2:30 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
msn2it (anonymous) says...
Thank you I_Love_
It is a senseless tragic loss. Who knows what this child could have grown up to be?
I am not saying that the parents are right or wrong. To say would just be another opinion and I don't know the facts. I am sure of one thing, though. The parents have to live with it until eternity. Not a pleasant thought.
I also don't understand how anyone could be so heartless as to not come forward. Eventually, the guilty one will be caught.
July 25, 2008 at 2:53 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
jeff61 (anonymous) says...
Posted by I_Love_d_Peninsula on July 25, 2008 at 2:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)
jeff61:
In scenario #3- then the driver should have gone directly to the nearest police station and reported the incident.
Exaclty right they should have.
I am not defending this persons actions but the sad thing is this would not have saved the childs life. This happened in front of several witnesses and it appears 911 was called by the witnesses within seconds of the child being hit. There are many things that could have been done to prevent this from happening, but once it happened, it was too late to do anything.
Someone commentted earlier about two people hitting this child? Do they have more information on this that someone should know about?
July 25, 2008 at 2:55 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Tammie (anonymous) says...
Jeff, I know on the news they gave descriptions of 2 vehicles, a Neon and a GMC Jimmy. Not sure if they both him the young man or if the eyewitnesses weren't sure which one hit him if they were driving along that stretch at the same time.
July 25, 2008 at 3 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
suec (anonymous) says...
The little boy is dead becuase he walked or ran in front of a car, not becuase the driver left the scene.
Just by he time line of the accident until he was pronounced dead at the hospital, it is pretty obvious that he died on impact.
I have no sympathy at all for the driver but I would say he/she was not initially at fault unless he ran up on the sidewalk. By leaving the scene he just made matters worse for himself when he is caught.
To say that this boy would have been alive if the driver had stopped is just nonsense. Unless of course the driver was a surgeon. Even then I doubt if it would have made a difference.
July 25, 2008 at 3:09 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
jeff61 (anonymous) says...
Tammie,
Ok,, so that person was commentting on what is being reported and not a know fact.
So what are the facts here.
Was this child on one side of the 4 lane highway and the group of friends on the other and he was crossing to meet them.
Or were they all crossing the 4 lane highway together and he happened to be the hit?
Just curious, may explain why they are confused as to what vehicle hit him.
Which bring up another point, if the witness are sure which vehicle hit the child, is it possible the driver did not know if they hit someone? I doubt this, but it is a question.
July 25, 2008 at 3:16 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
prosperous_hb (anonymous) says...
suec....shut the hell up. How in the heck can you not have any sympathy for the driver when the left the scene? You are just full of poop. I hope you don't don't get hit by a car are you walk in the parking lot and that person drives off.
Sorry for the bluntness, but that comment struck a nerve.
July 25, 2008 at 3:18 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
jeff61 (anonymous) says...
Posted by suec on July 25, 2008 at 3:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Thanks,, that is the point I have been trying to make...
July 25, 2008 at 3:18 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Lovely_One (anonymous) says...
"The little boy is dead becuase he walked or ran in front of a car, not becuase the driver left the scene."
I'll go one further and say the little boy is dead because he was hit by the car walked or ran in front of.
No, he may not have survived had the person stopped, but the family would know who hit the child and would know if this person was remorseful about it.
July 25, 2008 at 3:20 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
prosperous_hb (anonymous) says...
suec, I apologize for my comments. I mis-read what you wrote.
July 25, 2008 at 3:20 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
berthelot (anonymous) says...
It is a sad story of course, but let us assume that if the kid were mature enough to be out alone at 10 PM then he would also be mature enough to obey the law.
SECTION 56-5-3130. Pedestrians' right-of-way in crosswalks. [SC ST SEC 56-5-3130]
(b) No pedestrian shall suddenly leave a curb or other place of safety and walk or run into the path of a vehicle which is so close as to constitute an immediate hazard.
SECTION 56-5-3150. Crossing at other than crosswalks. [SC ST SEC 56-5-3150]
(a) Every pedestrian crossing a roadway at any point other than within a marked crosswalk or within an unmarked crosswalk at an intersection shall yield the right-of-way to all vehicles upon the roadway.
(c) Between adjacent intersections at which traffic-control signals are in operation pedestrians shall not cross at any place except in a marked crosswalk.
(d) No pedestrian shall cross a roadway intersection diagonally unless authorized by official traffic-control devices and when authorized to cross diagonally pedestrians shall cross only in accordance with the official traffic-control devices pertaining to such crossing movements.
It is very sad, but the kid was jaywalking. He is a minor so his parents, legally, are to blame.
July 25, 2008 at 3:21 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
jeff61 (anonymous) says...
Posted by prosperous_hb on July 25, 2008 at 3:18 p.m. (Suggest removal)
suec....shut the hell up.
Ok,, now it is being decided what opinion can be posted???
I think your being Preposterous prosperous
July 25, 2008 at 3:23 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Tammie (anonymous) says...
Suec, I think the main point a lot of us are going after is the fact that this is a hit and run and the driver didn't even turn around to see what happened. I think the family would have been more forgiving and so would some of us if the driver had just stopped. Judging by the circumstances, nothing probably could have saved this young man. But the driver's lack of compassion for taking a human life just seems like a slap in the face to so many. JMO
July 25, 2008 at 3:27 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
I_Love_d_Peninsula (anonymous) says...
Please turn yourself in to the authorities. Your heart/soul will not be at peace until you do.
July 25, 2008 at 3:33 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Tammie (anonymous) says...
Peninsula, to do what they did, appearantly they lack both.
July 25, 2008 at 3:45 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
suec (anonymous) says...
I agree that the driver should have stopped. Never said he was not at fault. I just said that him not stopping was not the reason for the boy being dieing. Him getting hit by a car happened whether or not the driver stopped.
The stopping or not stopping was "after the fact".
There were people posting that he was run down, run over, or died becuase the driver did not stop. I just do not understand people's thought process or lack of it someimes.
July 25, 2008 at 3:52 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
berthelot (anonymous) says...
I should clarify that I am not defending the person leaving the scene, that is a far worse crime than jaywalking. I am merely pointing out that if the driver had stopped and reported the accident the fault more than likely would not have been placed on the driver.
July 25, 2008 at 4:14 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
jeff61 (anonymous) says...
Posted by suec on July 25, 2008 at 3:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Once again thank you,, another point I was trying to make.. I glad someone else can see things.
July 25, 2008 at 4:21 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
MRSCVS (anonymous) says...
Right now I am astounded by this horrible incident.
A child is dead due to a coward act by a piece of slime that has no heart or conscious.
To the idiot that wrote black people do not glow in the dark; Are you really serious with that comment with all things considering.
Step back you BASTARD and realize that a life has been taken by a callous assh*le and I am sorry but this is not the time or place to make your insidious remarks.
Pray for this family in their time of need because this is so heartbreaking.
Please people stop with the speculations the what ifs and the what should have been done focus on the fact at hand, that a child is no longer here and the DIRTBAG that killed him is still out there.
I offer my deepest commiseration to the family and friends of Tyler.
God Bless
July 25, 2008 at 4:27 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Brutus1 (anonymous) says...
MRSCVS, you are right.
July 25, 2008 at 4:38 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
southerngirl45 (anonymous) says...
MY GOD! A child is dead and all you people have to do is go back and forth as to whose fault it was or to use this forum to trash each other!!!!!!!My heart is hurting over this little boy. I WONDER how many of you got out and in trouble when you were young? THE REAL ISSUE here is the driver-(THE ONE WHO DROVE AWAY,REMEMBER?????)and left a nine year old child TO DIE WITH NO-ONE THERE WITH HIM-PLEASE! NINE YEARS OLD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Don't you think the focus would be to throw some comments out there to THE COWARD who hit this little boy? I bet he is having a time listening to all you jerks throw all the blame on these parents.Trust me if they were not or are not good parents thier punishment will last them a lifetime. We have all spoken about how one of ours has sneaked out at night,Well maybe,just maybe that's the case here.A COWARDLY HUMAN BEING IS OUT THERE SOME WHERE AND YOUR CHILD OR SOME ONE YOU LOVE COULD BE HIS NEXT VICTIM.GIVE HIM SOME OF YOUR SPEWING ATTENTION!
July 25, 2008 at 4:40 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
noname (anonymous) says...
I see you guys are still on that" where was the parent's" mindset. Let it go please!
This is getting old! As someone said, we can not change what happened to this kid or the motorcyclist; we can only take measure to make sure something like this never happens again.
As a driver, I am aware that I may not always make a sudden stop while in traffic but, the main factor for me was, there were no skid marks!!! That means the ruthless SOB had no intentions of ever stopping for any reason.
Hell, I hit a cat once, simply because it darted out in traffic but, the worst thing for me was hearing that sound underneath my car. So, my point is this: You may not be able to avoid an accident; Yet,I do feel that you at least owe them the common courtesy to stop once you realized something so horrible has happened.
If this was caused by a drunk driver who did not realize it at the time, I truly believe at some point the evidence lefted on the vehicle, would make anyone of us ask ourselves the # 1 question , and that is; What happened to my car?
This accident happened on Wednesday night, I think the drivers had more than enough time to admit to this horrible ordeal. When caught, they deserve the maximum punishment.
July 25, 2008 at 4:41 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
jeff61 (anonymous) says...
Posted by MRSCVS on July 25, 2008 at 4:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Right now I am astounded by this horrible incident.
A child is dead due to a coward act by a piece of slime that has no heart or conscious.
How do you know this about the person? This could be a scared teen,, an old person who may not have a clue they hit him, A person not even in this area who did not realize they hit someone or some illegal that won't turn the self in.
Please people stop with the speculations the what ifs and the what should have been done focus on the fact at hand, that a child is no longer here and the DIRTBAG that killed him is still out there.
Again,,, this is a newspaper comment section... we comment on articles written... this is not the Crime Solvers web site or the Police Tip Line...IT IS A NEWSPAPER COMMENT SECTION.. Please don't come here and tell us to stop our posts of what if's..This is what this is for and what we do. Stay on the Obit guest book page. I am sure with some of the DIRTBAG and other comments this person may be scared to death to turn them selves in.
July 25, 2008 at 4:43 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
10216340 (anonymous) says...
I would like to echo what a previous poster said about this being a public forum for commenting on stories and expressing opinions. I've said this before myself but think it needs repeating.
Generally comments are made based on the information provided in the story as well as that said by other posters. That is as it should be. Again, I WILL NOT sugar coat anything and resent anyone telling me or another poster that this is not an appropriate forum to address the issue of "why this child was out so late at night."
Yes, the driver should have stopped.....HELLO! But, I can express sadness about a young child losing his life as well as outrage at the fact that he was out so late and without supervision and quite possibly, up to no good (and evidently not for the first time it seems)......the two are not mutually exclusive comments.
It is not heartless to question such things. It is my pure and utter outrage that this happened that causes me to question why and how it could have been prevented.
July 25, 2008 at 4:43 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
MRSCVS (anonymous) says...
BRUTUS1...Thanks I was just being candid about this ordeal, and it truly is a sad event.
Once again I offer my earnest condolences to the family and friends of Tyler.
God Bless
July 25, 2008 at 4:50 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
10216340 (anonymous) says...
Posted by southerngirl45 - "THE REAL ISSUE here is the driver-(THE ONE WHO DROVE AWAY,REMEMBER?????)and left a nine year old child TO DIE WITH NO-ONE THERE WITH HIM-PLEASE! NINE YEARS OLD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Don't you think the focus would be to throw some comments out there to THE COWARD who hit this little boy?"
Ummmm, southerngirl45...bless your heart. You need to thoroughly read the previous posts before you start yelling about them. Many have commented on both the driver and the parents.
July 25, 2008 at 4:54 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
jeff61 (anonymous) says...
Posted by southerngirl45 on July 25, 2008 at 4:40 p.m. (Suggest removal)
THE REAL ISSUE here is the driver-(THE ONE WHO DROVE AWAY,REMEMBER?????)and left a nine year old child TO DIE WITH NO-ONE THERE WITH HIM-PLEASE! NINE YEARS OLD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Lets keep with the facts here and stop adding things that are not true.
It is a fact that that the driver drove away..
The driver not stopping after hitting the child did not contribute to his death..
The child was with a group of friends and several other people witnessed the child being struck.
He was not found after the fact on or along the road by someone passing by.
911 was called with in seconds after the child was struck
This is all very unfortunate, but let's not start adding things that are not true. ...
July 25, 2008 at 4:56 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
beemz (anonymous) says...
to the family i offer my compassion in your loss.
yes this is a forum for all opinions be the ones we agree with or not.
to question someone on the character of this murder makes me wonder if you are that person the police are looking for jeff61????????.
what else would you call someone that killed a child and leave him there to die, trust me there are several nasty names that come to mind, but of course i can not write them here in this forum due to p/c policing polices.
you also need to get your act together jeff61 everyone who has an opinion can write whatever they want in here just as i am as well you.
i also presume that people are going off what the newspaper has printed and it does paint this killer in an inhospitable light like there is any other way to picture a killer; can you not see that what he/she did was utterly wrong?????
a lil boy is dead because a driver did not have the guts to stop and owned up to his wrongs.
July 25, 2008 at 5:07 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
walleyedwoman1215 (anonymous) says...
I'm thinking the mother is being stoic in the face of enormous loss, and is not terribly articulate. She doesn't have to cry on camera to be devastated. I once interviewed a black woman whose sister was brutally murdered at age 81. She was heartbroken, but when interviewed she spoke with calmness and reserve. She had the dignity of a queen. That was 15 years ago, and I'm still humbled by her strength.
July 25, 2008 at 5:08 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
jeff61 (anonymous) says...
Nope sorry,, don't live out that way.. Don't travel out that way...I can prove my whereabouts during that time unlike the parents who did not know the where abouts of thier child and now that you made some unfounded accuations towards me simply because I post my opinions, I will pursue that.
July 25, 2008 at 5:14 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
jeff61 (anonymous) says...
Posted by beemz on July 25, 2008 at 5:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)
a lil boy is dead because a driver did not have the guts to stop and owned up to his wrongs.
The child is dead because they hit him not becasue they did not stop after the fact...you really don;t know don't know the difference.??????. The child would still be dead if they stopped or not.. and yes they should have.. I was pointing out reason they may not have.....
July 25, 2008 at 5:19 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
I_Love_d_Peninsula (anonymous) says...
Thanks Tammie.
beemz:
I also think the culprit is posting too! there are some comments being made that are really trying, very desperately to justify Tyler's death and exculpate themselves.
Turn yourself in now! You will be found.
July 25, 2008 at 5:33 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
hartley8184 (anonymous) says...
Mainly, the little boy is dead because his parents failed to be responsible for his well being. If my son or daughter were killed under these circumstances, I would never be able to forgive myself.
July 25, 2008 at 5:37 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
wisdom1982 (anonymous) says...
DARKKNIGHT76, I was not going to comment to you but everytime I see your comments, I get angrier and angrier. See I live in that neighborhood as well and I am very aware of what goes on there. If you are crossing that four laned highway where they found him, the only place to go would be in the other neighborhood where they said he was going. If not, they would not cross there.
Also, because I dont judge, I try to find solutions, I found out the real story. Tyler was with his friends as well as his friends' older brothers to walk another little boy home first and then to walk him home last. So he was out with someone older. Something unfortunate just happened. Something that obviously couldnt have been prevented even if you or I was there. There is also a stealing problem in this neighborhood but it is so many people here, who knows who the theives are?? It may be you or me. You know just as well as I do that there is a lot of people hanging out in this neighborhood. He has not got in trouble or was not ever detained for any of these crimes. Sounds to me like you are stereotyping without saying it out loud.
Instead of people like you pointing the finger, you should try to be a solution to these so called problems. In this particular neighborhood, people are always speeding and they never stop at the stop signs. This little boy may have had problems in the past but who didnt. I know personally that he and his friends have volunteered to cut my grass and cleaned my yard on many occasions with me being a single parent of young kids.
I have also told the other neighbors about them and they do errands for them also. They couldnt have been that bad or everyone who did not even know him would not let them in their homes around their valuables and would not trust them. I have some fault with the parents, yes. But I had some fault with our neighborhood as a community for not doing any preventative measures earlier when we knew about the speeding problems here.
Anyone who says that they know where their kids are and what their kids are doing at all times, is telling a bold faced, ignorant lie. You have no clue what your kids are doing or how they behave out of your presence. All we can do is raise them to the best of our abilities and pray that what we have bestowed on them show even when we (the parents) are not around.
Everyone needs to stop placing blame and help to be a solution. If not, you are just as bad as the scum who kept on going after they hit him. The parents have suffered enough even if they dont show it. We all have had problems and situations occur just like everyone else, that doesnt mean we have to walk around with our emotions showing to your expectations. Grow up!!Live and Learn with every situation..............Wisdom
July 25, 2008 at 5:43 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
I_Love_d_Peninsula (anonymous) says...
Your Honor: I ran over a child but I didn't stop because I figured I killed him so I didn't see the point in stopping.
Is that your point jeff61?
See how hideous that sounds.
July 25, 2008 at 5:43 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
I_Love_d_Peninsula (anonymous) says...
Wisdom: That was very well said. Good for you!
July 25, 2008 at 5:52 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
I_Love_d_Peninsula (anonymous) says...
Wisdom: That was very well said. Good for you!
July 25, 2008 at 5:52 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
for_him (anonymous) says...
First off I would like to say that I do pray for this family and pray that God will lift them up during this terrible time. Anytime a family has a loss is a difficult time and they will need prayer and hope for this long road.
I keep seeing the same question over and over and that is "why was this child out at 10 pm?" I do have to back up DARKKNIGHT76 because my family has had trouble with this same child in our neighborhood (the same neighborhood he was headed to). Easter 07 this child sat across the street behind a parked car in our neighbor's driveway shooting a bb gun at my family members as they hid easter eggs for my 4 yr old to find. We were blessed that it didn't hit anyone, but he did manage to strike one of the vehicles in the driveway which caused damage to it. Once he dropped the gun we were able to approach the neighbor's house and the neighbor saw him behind a bush. As he popped out of the bush to run, the neighbor recognized him as one of his son's friends. He gave us his name and address. We had an officer go to his house where you guessed it..... his mother was asleep. When she finally came to the door she didn't know where her son was. This was at 2pm in the afternoon. I know it's not 10pm, but this is just another example of how this child was left to run around with no guidance other than his own and the troubled kids around him. Unfortunately those kids are trouble which meant this kid fell in right behind them.
Even with the bb gun incident, I still believe this child did not deserve this. Regardless of the trouble that he was able to get into, this is not justification for hitting him and leaving him there to die like an animal. He was still a human no matter what he has done. Being a parent, my heart does break for his parents and I will continue to pray for them. I hope this incident draws them closer to the children that they have left and they know how delicate life really is.
July 25, 2008 at 6:17 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
suec (anonymous) says...
No one is saying the driver should not have stopped. No one is making excuses for the driver. It was an horrible, inhumane, illegal, heartless thing to do. I hope they catch teh driver and punish them to the full extent.
But saying things like "a lil boy is dead because a driver did not have the guts to stop and owned up to his wrongs" is just not true. It melodramatic and ignorant.
July 25, 2008 at 6:44 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
beemz (anonymous) says...
Jeff61 you have major issues, but I won't take a stance against that, because when all is said and done we still have a lil boy that was killed by a low life piece of anal slime such as yourself.
i don't know you or care to know you but i will stick with my gut feeling that perhaps you are the driver or know something about it.
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Posted by beemz on July 25, 2008 at 5:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)
a lil boy is dead because a driver did not have the guts to stop and owned up to his wrongs.
The child is dead because they hit him not becasue they did not stop after the fact...you really don;t know don't know the difference.??????. The child would still be dead if they stopped or not.. and yes they should have.. I was pointing out reason they may not have...
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does it make you feel big to pick at the most negligible details when in actually you knew exactly what I was writing (saying) whatever the case may be.
i will not allocate myself to stoop to your level because as far as i am concern this is done with.
my points remain the same a child is dead due to a cold heartless individual if it was you JEFF61 I would say the same thing.
wrong is wrong and what was done to that child is unerringly that:..
btw GOD BLESS YOU!
wisdom1982, mrscvs, i_love_the_peninsula great postings.
GOD BLESS THE CAPERS FAMILY THRU THIS ORDEAL.
Gn all
July 25, 2008 at 6:51 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
coolfreaknbeans (anonymous) says...
Wow suec.I can't believe it- I agree with you.LOL
July 25, 2008 at 6:51 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
beemz (anonymous) says...
and so are you suec....
i am beginning to wonder if SUEC and JEFF61 are not one in the same...
c ya
July 25, 2008 at 6:55 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
coolfreaknbeans (anonymous) says...
It's ridiculous how melodramatic some of these posters are.No one in God's green Earth is saying this poor little child deserved to die.People are being honest about their experiences and observations in dealing with this family. People were bringing up these points to question his parents behavior and parenting style.And don't dare say or imply that it's not the right time to question the situation.It is the right time.And to the fool who said it couldnt have been prevented...wtf?Are you an idiot?Unless I read the article wrong the car didnt jump the side walk and kill him-he improperly crossed the street.(because he's only 9)If a responsible adult was with him,the wouldnt have let him cross then.
July 25, 2008 at 6:59 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
suec (anonymous) says...
Its called logical thinking beemz.
Try it instead of putting 2 and 2 together and saying it equals 5.
July 25, 2008 at 7 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
planete (anonymous) says...
I am another person that PERSONALLY knew this child and had the "opportunity" to meet his mother as well on several occasions. I do feel for the family's loss, but also know they had received plenty of advance warning that if action was not taken on their part, then their child would die young.
I'll start by saying he wasn't all rainbows and fun as the media and his parents have claimed, but instead was one who was FEARED by his peers. He was NOT an honor student, but instead a known thief at school and within the community. He was continuously in fights, was SUSPENDED on multiple occasions from school for bringing contraband (of many types), and he had also been caught selling drugs and terrorizing his community by local authorities.
Want to know why he was out at those hours after his mother had supposedly, and conveniently, "gone to sleep?"
He was involved in a GANG and known for selling drugs. He had access to weapons and wasn't afraid to "show and tell" them to his peers. HIS MOTHER AND FATHER knew this; however, they still allowed him to do as his pleased. This was confirmed daily with his "THUG-like" attitude.
The media has truly trusted the ugly slander that his parents have given them to hype up a child they really never seemed to care about. Because obviously if they did wouldn't they have taken action sooner as in when members of their community, POLICE, neighbors, school faculty, etc constantly warned and showed them how their son was on a downward spiral? How ignorant can his parents be?
With this information, the only thing unexpected about this tragedy is the manner in which it happened (i.e:not in a gunfight or bad drug deal).
Make no mistake that I could fill several pages of information providing specific examples of how he was a menace to his school and community but many other people have already made that point. Do not listen to his parents bogus claims, they probably love the all the attention and sympathy that they have already received.
I feel sorry for any family's loss, and I do in this case also but I am very confident that I feel worse about this tragedy than his parents do. They had little/no remorse or sadness as shown in their news interview and how I've heard his mother speak of him before.
Sorry for your loss, the driver needs to be brought to justice!
July 25, 2008 at 7:03 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
wood_floors (anonymous) says...
I am shocked at the comments listed about this story. It seems as if some of you are attempting to justify the death of this child. There is NO justification.
Are we all perfect in the fact that we followed all of the rules set forth by our parents as children, I did not. It is heart breaking to read some of your comments.
I, too, live a neighborhood where some of the children misbehave terribly and yes, I have often thought that if these families would just leave our neighborhood, the amount of crime in our area would decrease. However, if one of those children were injured or killed, I would no doubt have sympathy for the grieving family.
Those of you placing blame on the parents of this youngster should be ashamed of comments. I have to ask, if this tragedy happened at 10 am instead of 10 pm, would your thoughts and comments be different?
As a community, perhaps we should reach out to families in need and stop pointing fingers and placing blame...
Focus your energy on finding the coward that hit and killed this child (but failed to stick around to face the consequences) not on blaming a family that has lost one the most precious gifts one can receive...
July 25, 2008 at 7:06 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
srsk24 (anonymous) says...
I feel very sorry for the family. I have no idea what they must be going through. I could not possibly imagine losing one of my children especially to someone else's wreckless behavior. But the question must be asked......WHAT WAS A NINE YEAR OLD CHILD DOING OUT THAT LATE WITHOUT THE PARENTS EVEN KNOWING HE WAS GONE???
July 25, 2008 at 7:08 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
I_Love_d_Peninsula (anonymous) says...
planete:
If that is the case, then what we have here are two tradegies.
#1. Parents were irresponsible and should be held accountable.
#2. A child is dead because of #1.
I still would ask the driver to turn themself in to the authorities. He/She need to tell their side of the story.
July 25, 2008 at 7:34 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
I_Love_d_Peninsula (anonymous) says...
planete:
If that is the case, then what we have here are two tradegies.
#1. Parents were irresponsible and should be held accountable.
#2. A child is dead because of #1.
I still would ask the driver to turn themself in to the authorities. He/She need to tell their side of the story.
July 25, 2008 at 7:34 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
coolfreaknbeans (anonymous) says...
EvilGenius -You said it perfectly!I agree 110%.I can't believe the posters claiming that you can't really know where your kids are at all times.BS!I know exctly where my kids are at all times.No excuses folks.The more I hear about this family,the more disgusted I am.
July 25, 2008 at 7:44 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
southerngirl45 (anonymous) says...
DO YOU KNOW that GOD does not hold anyone accountable until they reach the age of 12 years?ARE you all going to dispute the BIBLE?(well some will I'm sure after reading these posts)He WAS A CHILD and YOU PEOPLE have executed him!After reading comments by planete,I cannot read this page again tonight!I hope all you judges,jurers,and prosecuters sleep well tonight!!!!!!!!!!!!BTW I do not know this family,I am just a person with a heart.Good night all!
July 25, 2008 at 8:32 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
hartley8184 (anonymous) says...
Sorry Wisdom1982 (boy, is that screen name a poor choice), I don't have to turn my brain off and stop all critical thought to be part of the solution. And don't worry, I don't count on YOU to be part of the solution to raising my kids. If my kid ever gets hit by a car at 10:30 pm while out of the house with no supervision, then I will take personal responsibility for it and feel ashamed for the rest of my life. I won't ask you to "be part of the solution." Personally, I don't have much respect for your "cultural perspective", so don't try to fit your worldview templates on me.
July 25, 2008 at 8:58 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
wisdom1982 (anonymous) says...
hartley8184
---- WTF!!!!!!! That should say it all.....What perspective???????? Raise your kids?????? Get a LIFE!!!!! I am simply saying only what I know. I am not claiming to know it all. I see kids in mall parking lots or out shopping with parents. These parents are not holding their kids hands. Face it some of them are not even holding the infants hands. So if your kids where to step out in the parking lot and be killed even because of negligence from another person, how did you prevent this. A simple mistake. I guess these parents assume their kids will just stay by their sides. Simply put ""Kids think like KIDS"""" I didnt tell you to turn off your brain, but everyone should have been raised to keep ignorant thoughts to themself.
I never said this child was a saint because I know none of them are. I posted the only thing I knew unlike some of your posts of what you THOUGHT.
Another thing, parents who are saying that they know where their kids are at all times, LOL!!!! At 10pm, maybe. That is because they should be in the bed. When you are at work and your kids are at school, the teachers do not even have their eyes on your child at all times. Or when you kids are at their friends home, all you can do is verify that they are there. How would you know if the other kids' parents are watching them? Movies and mall-kids get dropped off and picked up from the movies and mall all of the time. Do you know what went on while they were there???? NO.
Like I said before, all we can do is instill values in our children and hope they will adhere to them when they are not in our presence. Trust me, if there is never a time in your child's life that they will not be without a parent. Then you may need to switch screen names with me. (lmao)
I am definitely not trying to justify anyone's behaviors because I am a firm believer that justice will be served whether we (the public) is able to see it or not. Also, I am not saying that the parents are not dead wrong. But kids growing up today are alot different than when we grew up. We just have to remind them of the fact that they are the children and we are the parents.
July 25, 2008 at 9:26 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
10216340 (anonymous) says...
Earth to southerngirl45. You are a real trip sweetie. Stop bringing God into this. No one is blaming the child.....all comments that I've read (could have missed some but think I got them all) have been directed towards questioning the parents and their parenting.
You need to take your prozac and go to bed. You are so fired up that you can't even write a coherent, thoughtful response any longer. You have thrown such nonsense and illogical accusations around that I wonder which posts you've been reading.
People ARE NOT happy this little boy is dead. People ARE NOT excusing the driver. But, people ARE questioning, and rightly so, why this child was allowed to run wild (on more than just this evening it is now evident).
And beemz.....how dare you even insinuate that another poster here is the driver of the car that hit this little boy. How day you make light of this tragedy in that way. If you don't like what someone says....respond in a more mature and informative way than resorting to criminal accusations.
July 25, 2008 at 9:42 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
lilbit2008 (anonymous) says...
May prayers and thoughts are with the family at the loss of such a young boy. I live in a neighborhood right off a Ladson Road. Everyday there are children walking up and down and crossing the busy 4-lane road to go to the gas station without an adult. Many of us that live off Ladson road at least closer to the Dorchester Road side knows that many cops seat in plain view all day long with their radar and pulling drivers over left and right.This is not a safe road in no means and the way people are kidnapping kids I would not let my children cross the road without an adult. Hopefully to other parents that this is a wake up call that they realize know what and where they are going and lay down rules and consequences to help avoid this from happening to anyone else. And to this driver--- Why did you not stop and see what you hit? Driver who didn't stop just remember KARMA. And to the rest of you speeding drivers. SLOW DOWN!!!! Ladson Road is not a Nascar track. May God give the family strength to get through this difficult time.
July 25, 2008 at 10:17 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
jeff61 (anonymous) says...
Posted by suec on July 25, 2008 at 6:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Again thank you suec and 10216340. I am sure some of these people are posting here for the first time.. I do not think they even have a clue how stupid some of thier comments are. And No suec and I are not the same person. Some people can ... forget it... there is no point explaining some you people with your heads up your......
July 25, 2008 at 10:45 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
jeff61 (anonymous) says...
Posted by I_Love_d_Peninsula on July 25, 2008 at 5:43 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Your Honor: I ran over a child but I didn't stop because I figured I killed him so I didn't see the point in stopping.
Is that your point jeff61?
See how hideous that sounds.
Ok dumby (sorry but appropiate) I never said the driver should not have stopped. Absolutley they should have stopped The law requires them to stop. But you people are posting that the child died because the driver did not stop. See how hideous that sounds. The child was killed because the driver hit him,, not because the driver did not stop, again See how hideous that sounds. I hope the person that hit him is caught. I hope the witnesses can get the story straight so the correct vehicle can be looked for. But there are many other issues here and this tragic death could have and should been prevented..
And beemz if you make anymore accusations that I am in anyway involved with this because I am asking questions I will contact the P&C to indentify the PC your posting from. There are laws against making false accusations against people.
July 25, 2008 at 11:13 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
meeche24 (anonymous) says...
Tyler we love you and will miss you, we know that God doesn't make any mistakes and we know that you are in a better place... Keep smiling down and looking out for us... WE WILL NEVER FORGET YOU>>>>
July 25, 2008 at 11:15 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
meeche24 (anonymous) says...
this is awful we can not get on here and comment on the way this young lady has or has not raised her son..... i know this family personnally and she was a damn good mother, NO one in this world can that they know everything their child does 24 hours of the day.... no one can say when and how we go, this little boy, excuse me Tyler was not out with drug dealers, Tyler was not neglected, Tyler was not a run around kid that did what he wanted.... Tyler was a typical 9 year old that on that night snuck out of the house to go with friends *friends on his age level*... yes we all fall short sometimes when it comes to parenting, we cant beat ourselves down about nor question God and how he operates... Instead of beating the parents down, lets do better and embrace them and pray for them and the family... Lucy, Freddy, Quoya, Von, Jasmine, Courtney and Terrell, we love you, praying for you and thinking about you.... Know that God never makes mistakes, he is in a better place, just know that your angel on earth is now one of God's angel up in heaven... Love Yall....
July 25, 2008 at 11:30 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
I_Love_d_Peninsula (anonymous) says...
Jeff61
You call me dumby. You I are a Jack As* to the 10 th power!
I am smarter, wiser, and have more brains then you on my worst days Butt hole. If you could read, which it is apparent that you can't, I never said anything about the driver of the vehicle stopping may have prevented this child's death. You did. So go back to school, learn reading comprehension then try posting when you actually know what the flip you're talking about. Your argument is stupid, like yourself, stupid does as stupid is, so I understand that but don't hurl a bunch of bullshi* and think I am going to sit back and take it. You know nothing!
I came name call too!
July 25, 2008 at 11:46 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
I_Love_d_Peninsula (anonymous) says...
jeff61:
BTW,you are not just asking questions? or are you either justifying or preparing your defense. idiot!
July 25, 2008 at 11:56 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
FamnGuam (anonymous) says...
Hello Lucy,Freddy and the rest of my family(Venning)there in Charleston. Even though the military has had me overseas for the last five years you guys have been with me daily. My heart is breaking right now. When I left Charleston Frank had just passed and the saddness was profound, but the love carried us through. This same love is with you now as well as my prayers. God is not asleep and He always justifies the innocent and judges the guilty.We all know that God is loving and merciful. No matter the circumstances He carries us. How amazing is it that He chose Tyler to have great purpose in such a short life? We know not what God's purpose was for Tyler's life; only God knows, but we can rest and be assured that God is not a man that He should lie! He will give you all strength and He will carry you through so that you can tell this storm that even though it's winds blow it causes you no alarm because NOT ONLY ARE YOU SAFE IN THE SAVIORS ARMS TYLER IS AS WELL. BE BLESSED AND KNOW THAT I AM PRAYING FOR YOU. Katie
July 25, 2008 at 11:58 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
greeneyes (anonymous) says...
I was picking up my teenagers from the movies on Oakbrook after this happened..I saw the shoes left in the street..the streetlights on that side of the road are also out and I believe have been out for a while..it is very difficult to see anything especially with other car lights shining at you.I have seen children of all ages on this stretch of ladson Rd at all hours of the day..they walk across like they dare you to hit them..they will not stay together always when crossing so you have kids all over the place..and its very difficult to see at night.There is a reason for curfews!! My kids are teenagers and they still have to be in the yard by dark.Kids have to have rules and consequences.
I never snuck out of my house at night..I knew I would get a beating for doing something dangerous. The only time my kids have gotten spankings is for things that are dangerous..I know my kids have snuck out at night and went into the yard(one girl spent the night here and she left but my daughter stayed because she knew what would happen) but they know I get up throughout the night and go check on them..I wont even let my kids walk on the 2 lane road off Ladson and theyre 14 and 16. I read the mothers comments..wow..but the family sure is making a big deal about 'who' hit him..the boy was in the street when he was hit..I dont know how the car could be at fault for hitting him because Im sure he didnt see him..but I dont think the person shouldve drove off..that was wrong.These groups of kids that are out after curfew need to be taken home in cop cars and the parents warned.It is so sad something like this had to happen ..this was a child and shouldve been supervised properly..they have 5 kids I'm sure he wasnt the only one up that supposedly 'snuck' out..someone had to see him go out.
July 26, 2008 at 2:27 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
trishadl75 (anonymous) says...
Wow, I guess it doesn't really matter to alot of people that a 9 year old child was killed. This child has a family that is now mourning and grieving over the loss of his life.
He wasn't a poster child, but what child is! I've seen that some of you had written that you "knew" this child and maybe even his parents, but did you really?
I wonder if some of your opinions would change, if you all knew that his father didn't live in the home. Although it's not my place to tell the world about their family history, I just want to say that no one should judge anyone.
This child may have had some or many issues, but instead of throwing stones at a glass house, can you say that you or your children, if you have any, are perfect? What happenend to "it takes a village to raise a child". For those of you that say you knew him, how many times have you just pushed this child to the side, or turned the other cheeck, or even ignored him?
If this child stole, could you have stopped and asked him if he was hungry or why did he feel the need to do something like that? He was 9, and who really knows why he did the things that he did, but I do know "Now" that its too late to ask him anymore!
I really worte all this to say, Believe it or not, our steps are already ordered. Every breath in our body is already counted. When someone leaves this world, their purpose has already been fulfilled. Can we as a whole learn something from this tragic death? Can we stop pointing the finger and do something that will make difference in another lost child's life!
Pray for this family and any other family that has lost someone dear to them. Cause we really dont know what someone else is going through or thinking, unless we took the time out to ask!
July 26, 2008 at 4:13 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
hartley8184 (anonymous) says...
trishadl75 said... "I wonder if some of your opinions would change, if you all knew that his father didn't live in the home."
Of course not. Would you be amazed, absolutely amazed, to know that a lot of people already surmised this?...
trishadl75 said... "What happenend to "it takes a village to raise a child"
This might also amaze you, but lots of people have not or never will live by that liberal motto. I don't turn my children over to the "village" when they are born. And the funny thing is, when it comes to the disciplining part, suddenly the "village people" always scream "don't touch my little angel." Apparently teachers must not be part of the village, to give one glaring example. Na, you can let the village raise your children if you want to, but I'll take responsibility for mine.
trishadl75 said..."If this child stole, could you have stopped and asked him if he was hungry or why did he feel the need to do something like that?
I do my part by parenting my OWN children. I feed them, on a regularly scheduled basis. I also teach them to live by the Golden Rule and what is and isn't acceptable behavior. I don't let my nine year old run the streets at 9 p.m. at night. Otherwise, call DSS and the police and report it.
trishadl75 said... "He was 9, and who really knows why he did the things that he did"
That's why parents are invented. We don't have to "know" why kids do things all the time. We just need to be there to correct, encourage and help them learn right from wrong. And we don't need the "village" with all it's conflicting values and confusing messages to be part of the equation. I definitely don't want people with your worldview being part of my equation. I have the right to be judgemental in that regard.
trishadl75 said... "I really worte all this to say...
When someone leaves this world, their purpose has already been fulfilled. Can we as a whole learn something from this tragic death? Can we stop pointing the finger and do something that will make difference in another lost child's life!"
I think people like you are the ones who never learn from this experience. And because you refuse to be REAL, these sorts of situations are going to continue. Your feel-good slogans about "purpose" and pie in the sky claptrap SOUND NICE, but they are cotton candy. What we have here is a little boy who never had a chance to find his purpose, or even a chance to learn he needed one. Finger pointing is not going to accomplish anything, but neither is moral relativism and switching off your brain in favor of being "non-judgemental". Lots of things happen for no reason, but these sad incidents aren't random. And the reason pops up again and again and again.
July 26, 2008 at 5:11 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
hartley8184 (anonymous) says...
Wissom1982 wrote: ---- "WTF!!!!!!! That should say it all.....What perspective???????? Raise your kids?????? Get a LIFE!!!!! I am simply saying only what I know. I am not claiming to know it all."
Right, it's what you "know" that represents your cultural perspective. I can readily see that you are only saying what you know. That's why I say that your screen name is a great irony.
Wissom1982 wrote: ----"I see kids in mall parking lots or out shopping with parents. These parents are not holding their kids hands."
You're making excuses. It's common within your cultural perspective.
Wissom1982 wrote: ----"I didnt tell you to turn off your brain, but everyone should have been raised to keep ignorant thoughts to themself."
And also raised to know right from wrong. I guess you missed out on both lessons. But, it's what molds your cultural perspective. Everything you do is predictable.
July 26, 2008 at 5:25 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
hartley8184 (anonymous) says...
Here's a quote that proves why you should change your screen name, Wisdom1982. Please. Please. If you have children now, stop having them. If you don't have children, please don't ever have them.
"Anyone who says that they know where their kids are and what their kids are doing at all times, is telling a bold faced, ignorant lie. You have no clue what your kids are doing or how they behave out of your presence. All we can do is raise them to the best of our abilities and pray that what we have bestowed on them show even when we (the parents) are not around."
July 26, 2008 at 5:33 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
beemz (anonymous) says...
10216340 wrote" And beemz.....how dare you even insinuate that another poster here is the driver of the car that hit this little boy. How day you make light of this tragedy in that way. If you don't like what someone says....respond in a more mature and informative way than resorting to criminal accusations."
First and foremost let's get something straight whatever and whomever you are I in no way made light of this tragedy.
Did you not grasp what I wrote if not let me know, and I will do my best no my damnest to write in a tediously dull terms for you dear.
If not desired then you have a good day or night and place that anger of yours elsewhere in attempts that it may be somewhat productive.
Jeff61, wow you are fill of surprise or what???
Please do us all a favor and tell P/C to do precisely what you ask okay, no FEAR here dear.
After all of your ludicrous rantings I am sure they just might take your pathetic existence off of the forum.
I am also sticking to my gut feeling where you are concern make no mistake about that.
In closing if it bothers you that much who I am then send me an email and I will gladly tell you all that you want to know DIP SH*T.
That is coming from a person who fears no one except GOD!!!!
Did you get that one JEFF61!??????
SUEC:.get a life and take your mouth out of that dark cold place you seem to dwell in all the time other than that I have nothing else to see to the triplets!
OOPS Except one more thing have a GN or GD and trust me when I say this is over.
FINISH!!!!
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Again I would like to extend my heartfelt commiseration to the Capers family and friends in their loss.
GOD BLESS
July 26, 2008 at 6:03 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
southerngirl45 (anonymous) says...
10216340-Hope you come back to this page! I would like to tell you that YOU are the stupid one that cannot read!!GO BACK my dear and read some of the comments about this little boy-and if you are too dumb to comprehend it then have someone explain some of the comments to you! I do have a college degree and it did not come from the low country!!!!!!!!!!!ALSO,GO BACK AND READ SOME OF YOUR STUPID REMARKS AGAIN-read carefuly! JEFF61 YOUR'E ANOTHER ONE THAT SHOULD TALK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
July 26, 2008 at 8:23 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
delicious5252 (anonymous) says...
First of I am so upset by reading all the comments blaming the father. The father was not the one to blame if you knew the whole situation the parents were seperated and live in 2 opposite homes. So there for how would he know that his son was out at 10:00 p.m. We are so quick to judge one another but we don't have all the facts to coagulate the truth. And for the person who said that Tyler was involved in stealing get all the facts together the reason you know all this information is because your child was involved aswell but you didn't add that in your comment your to busy trying to point fingers at the family instead of being sympathetic to the family. It is such a tragedy to see such a sweet child part this earth on such terms.
July 26, 2008 at 10:41 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
MRSCVS (anonymous) says...
Beemz...wow dear did someone make the B" angry?
I will answer my own question yes they did; you are hilarious Beemz, how have you been doing?
High 5 to you both Beemz, Southerngirl45.
Deepest condolences to the family.
July 27, 2008 at 7:59 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
vonne (anonymous) says...
Get a life people!Can't you find something else to do than slander this 9 year old child.I see the same people on this slander sight,you better becareful of the lies you tell.It seems like you are the problem in the neighbor hood.I would be affraid to live around people like you. You guys really scare me, who is who here it seems like you guys have the problem.
September 8, 2008 at 1:18 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
sailingfrenzy (anonymous) says...
I know this is kinda late and I Hate to say this, but has anyone realized that the article says the sister was at right? Meaning she was probably babysitting and the parents weren't home at all and the child thought he could get away with doing things because he was being taken care of by his sister. Plus all teenage girls get themselves in troube- she probably thought he was already in bed so she didn't have to pay attention and could do her own thing...
Just a thought that I thought I would contribute- even if it is almost a year later
April 13, 2009 at 10:40 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
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