Supermarket pain
Shopping for food becoming nightmarish as costs continue to climb relentlessly
By Prentiss Findlay
Up, up and away
Some of the main reasons food prices have been increasing so quickly:
Rising fuel prices have increased costs of transporting food.
The weak U.S. dollar has fueled a rise in U.S. exports, including agricultural products. Some of this food is going to feed demand in countries such as China and India because their standards of living are improving.
Commodity costs for corn, wheat, soybeans and milk, which are used in all sorts of foods, are sharply higher.
Source: Food Marketing Institute
The Post and Courier
Robin Edwards shops at Save-A-Lot in West Ashley. Edwards has changed some of her shopping habits, including buying frozen vegetables such as broccoli instead of fresh because of the price difference.
Savings tips
Make a food list and stick to it.
Seek bargains on in-season produce at local farmers' markets.
Switch to store brands.
Clip coupons. SmartMoney.com suggests several Web sites: www.coupons.com, www.grocerygame.com and www.redplum.com.
Sign up for your supermarket's frequent-shopper program to take advantage of bonus sales.
Carefully plan meals to reduce impulse purchases and to cut down on trips to the supermarket.
Food prices are soaring, the economic outlook is bleak, and Robin Edwards is without a job.
Now more than ever, she has to make smart choices with her grocery budget.
Frozen instead of fresh broccoli, chicken thighs instead of breasts, a half-gallon of milk instead of a gallon are some of the changes she has made.
On Friday, she lost her job as an assembly production worker at Summerville-based emergency vehicle-maker American LaFrance, a position she held for three months. She is contacting temp services looking for employment, and hopes she is called back to her job soon. She has filed for unemployment.
"I'm a single parent, and it hits hard. The prices are so high," she said Wednesday at the Save-A-Lot Food Store on Sam Rittenberg Boulevard.
Fresh government figures show that inflation shot up in June at the second-fastest pace in 26 years, with two-thirds of the surge blamed on soaring energy prices. And it's taking a nasty bite out of peoples' budgets. The U.S. Department of Labor reported that consumer prices jumped 1.1 percent last month, much worse than had been expected.
While shopping at the Food Lion on S.C. Highway 61, Joanna Royster said she feeds three kids and two adults on $530 per month in food stamps. Her extended family also helps. Her husband, a route salesman, is hospitalized with an abdominal aortic aneurysm. Disability payments are coming, but approval is slow. She misses fresh produce. "I end up buying frozen vegetables on sale," she said.
On Wednesday, Royster had fresh carrots in her cart, but that was a special treat. Her kids are ages 4, 11 and 15. "With school being out, they're eating me out of house and home, so it's particularly hard right now," she said. She is more of a coupon clipper and bargain hunter now. She stopped going to Wal-Mart Super Center in West Ashley for groceries because of gas prices. She stresses conservation to her children. Don't waste food and bathroom products, she tells them. "It's trying times right now," she said.
Energy prices rocketed upward by 6.6 percent, reflecting big increases for gasoline, home heating oil and natural gas. Food prices showed a big increase in June, rising by 0.7 percent, more than double the 0.3 percent increase of May. Vegetable prices shot up by 6.1 percent, the biggest increase in nearly three years, the AP reported.
Also, at the S.C. Highway 61 Food Lion, Johnnie Mae Moore bemoaned a 5-pound bag of potatoes for $4.49 that used to cost $2.99. "The food prices have gotten really ridiculous," said Keith Foster, 37, her son. "Most of my paycheck goes to groceries and gas," Foster said. He is a stockroom manager.
East Bay Street Harris Teeter shopper Muriel Bellow, a senior living on a fixed income, said she has quit buying Idaho baking potatoes, melons, peaches and bananas. Fresh broccoli is out. She cut her charitable donations to groups such as Amnesty International because of food and gas prices.
"Everything is so expensive. Now I'm back to looking at prices, and let me tell you, I resent it. They're absolutely astonishing," she said.
On Folly Road, Tommy and Kat Lopez were holding a garage sale Wednesday. The profit would go to gas and bills. "We are moving, but it's really hot and we probably wouldn't do this if we weren't hurting for money," Kat Lopez said. Tuesday marked the Lopezes' third week selling off trinkets and appliances, with prices reflecting demand: They're down to $10 for a carload and $20 for a truckload.
James Island resident Jenny Brown said her family traded its aging, energy-inefficient dryer for a clothesline to keep the electric bill down this summer. She also decided to try out cloth diapers with her 3-week-old daughter. Instead of shelling out $12 a week for a pack of the throw-away product, she invested $200 for a full year's supply of the washable variety. "Plus, this is good for the environment," Brown said.
James Island resident Marian Wigfall said she feels the pinch but hasn't made any changes to her routine. "I've been retired since '84, and I'm still living and still eating," she said. "But for young people, it's a big deal." A self-described evangelist, she said, "I depend on Jesus."
At the Piggly Wiggly off U.S. Highway 78 in Ladson, Robert Leedy of Summerville said he isn't one to check many prices. He goes in and grabs what he needs and leaves. "There's nothing to cope with. You just have deal with it," he said.
Jeanette Hardage of North Charleston tries to watch for advertised sales and clips coupons as much as possible. Lately, she's been shocked at the cost of milk. Santiago Myrian of Summerville is also feeling the pinch. She does not work and purchases groceries with $200 a month in food stamps. Myrian has cut her normal grocery list in half and tells her granddaughter to pick one thing at the store. "It's hard, especially for people who are not working," she said. "I don't know what's going to happen, but everything has changed."
Jasiri Whipper and The Associated Press contributed to this report.
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postman01 (anonymous) says...
If Barack Obama is elected along with a DEM Congress, this will seem like a picnic by comparison.
Many voters are too young to remember this but just recall the Presidency of Jimmy Carter and his infamous "malaise" speech. Since I do remember the seventies, I don't want to see America or her people put through a repeat just to satisfy the gargantuan egos of far left wingers like Mr. Obama and Co.
Our nation and her people have enough problems without the gov't becoming the chief cause of them and exacerbating them.
July 17, 2008 at 1:18 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
rjcontego (anonymous) says...
let's see...we've had a president in office for several years who was (is?) in the oil business and now gas prices are wrecking the american way of life... his cronies (and w himself in some way?) are raking in bilions and the peope are now wondering what's going on... it would seem obvious to me what's going... "where's the outrage?" as comedy central's bill mayer says...
July 17, 2008 at 1:21 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
whome (anonymous) says...
postman01:
That's rich, blaming the Dems when the primary reason for increasing commodities/food prices is the collapsing dollar during the past 5 years. It's a bi-partisan mess, but I'd put most of the blame on the American consumer, sending hundreds of billions of dollar a year to the rest of the world via imports. Strengthen the dollar and the prices go down on commodities and food prices. To strengthen the dollar, we need to produce more and consume less; considering that we're an consumption based economy, one should see what happens when people just don't spend willy-nilly. RECESSION. Just ask Starbucks.
To the Post and Courier:
"Fresh government figures show that inflation shot up in June at the second-fastest pace in 26 years, with two-thirds of the surge blamed on soaring energy prices."
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It was not inflation that shot up, but rather the Consumer Price Index. "Inflation is always and everywhere a monetary phenomenon," meaning the money supply is increasing too fast. In other words, there's too much money chasing too few goods, which USUALLY means higher prices. Counter-intuitively, we're actually going through DEFLATION. I think everyone would agree that there's TOO LITTLE money (or credit) in the system. Funny how falling assets (housing, stocks) does that.
By the time everyone finally realizes that we have deflation with a collapsing dollar, it's gonna get ugly.
July 17, 2008 at 2:27 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
BobH1962 (anonymous) says...
Let's see she gets $530 a month in food stamps to feed 5 people and she shops at Food Lion. What about those of us that DO NOT get food stamps and do our grocery shopping at cheaper priced grocery stores? There are those of us in the community that have jobs and don't qualify for food stampt that still have to buy food to feed our families. It is called being a smart shopper, looking for bargains (few and far between) and finding ways to be more frugal with our money.
July 17, 2008 at 4:09 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
moonpie (anonymous) says...
It's even slow at HOSPITALS! Where my daughter works they're talking of laying people off because where they did 60 test a day they do 7 now. Who would have thought that medical would slow when businesses slow? But if people don't have insurance they don't go to the hospitals unless your an illegal that is...They apparently don't have to pay for services as we Americans do.
I agree wait until Pres. Obama takes hold! You'll owe the gov when he gets done with his entitlements.
To the people in the story go get you a EBIT food card you really need it and deserve it.
July 17, 2008 at 6:26 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
RTC (anonymous) says...
Telling members of your household not to waste is sound advice for all times.
Eating frozen vegetables is not the end of the world either.
Yes, times are hard, but those that came before us had it rough, and they made it through.
As for the lady that can't afford to donate to Amnesty International anymore.......give me a break!
July 17, 2008 at 7:09 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
teeitup (anonymous) says...
What a dumb and stupid comment by rjcontego. The current administration has been in office for 8 years. The oil prices did not change much for 6 of those years, only the last 2 that the Democrats have been in control is when the oil prices have gone so much.
July 17, 2008 at 7:14 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Tammie (anonymous) says...
If you have small children and fall within the income criteria, you can be approved for WIC. WIC helps out with milk, cereal, eggs and also, during this time of year, you are eligible to get Farmers Market vouchers. It's $25 per person in your household. If there are 3 of you, you get a voucher for $75. No more than 3 vouchers though. Plus, they tell you where to go, and when Farmers Markets are open. This is for anyone who knows anyone who needs help, no one on this Earth is above not needing help from time to time. Like RTC said, frozen veggies aren't the end of the world, I steam my broccoli and season it with Mrs. Dash and some garlic salt that I get from Dollar General for $.50. It's all about being a smart shopper. Clip coupons, shop around for the best deals, hell, if you can deal with it, buy an inferior good (store name as opposed to company name)! I can't stand to see some of my friends driving around in their nice new gas guzzlers and their stomachs are growling. Not my problem!
July 17, 2008 at 7:31 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
STREETLAW (anonymous) says...
And centralization and buying for a week instead of every other day.
Centralization means changing doctors, churches, lawyers, grocery stores, drug stores, etc. to get as many essentials within 3 miles of where you live. Shopping malls surrounded by condos in the mall might be the wave of the future.
Everything that helps people save gas will help bring down the price of groceries. And you might consider those store brands. Some of them taste better than the advertised brands.
Properly mobilized, this country can cut its depencency of oil imports in half in three years.
Hey what a great headline that would be. "EXXON LAYS OFF WORKERS."
July 17, 2008 at 7:44 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Tammie (anonymous) says...
Tripsa...how dare you mention McNuggets this early in the morning? Now you have me wanting some. I hate you, you Franzia drinking poo-head. :-) Love ya babe!
Seriously though, I have no problem with people get Food stamps...on a "need to receive them" basis. It's one thing if you are working, trying to get your life together, you're trying to do right by your children, etc. But your priorities are all effed up, I have a huge problem with that.
July 17, 2008 at 7:46 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Paul (anonymous) says...
The single biggest reason for the increase in food prices is th "Food for Oil" program. Takes 30% of our food(corn) for mandated Ethanol to produce 3% of our oil. All this ordered by our Big Oil/Business President.
A simple executive order cancelling the mandate and issuing a priority for Natural gas which we have in abundance and easily produced would cause both gas and food prices to drop immediately.
July 17, 2008 at 7:46 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Tammie (anonymous) says...
Streetlaw said: "And you might consider those store brands. Some of them taste better than the advertised brands."
Heck yeah!!! I buy store brand or off brand things quite a bit. Like frozen dinners for example. I'd eat Michelina's over Stouffer's 90% of the time. It's a LOT cheaper and depending on what you get, it's actually quite filling.
July 17, 2008 at 7:49 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
grannyofsix (anonymous) says...
There is nothing wrong with can veggies either, if cooked right. Pour out the water rinse well and season. I have at one time had to rely on some canned meats as well. Large can of chili and a box of Mac and cheese mixed together9velveta type) make a great meal. I am the queen of food stretchers. Coupons do work as well, if you only clip the items you use not what you would like to have. Right now there is only one of us bringing in a paycheck so yes it can be hard grocery shopping.
July 17, 2008 at 7:53 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
dogwoodroad (anonymous) says...
I find this all very interesting. I am currently unemployed, as I am a full time graduate student living on student loans (which I'll be paying back on my own, with interest!)...I may not have any other mouths to feed, but I do have a mortgage and bills. Somehow, I am not complaining...I still have food, I just don't get to eat out as much as I used to, and I buy less meat - pasta and marinara sauce is a pretty cheap and tasty dinner (and when I'm really broke, you can't beat Ramen noodles!). I still have gas for my car, I just can't go out of town every weekend like I did last year (when I was employed full time). I still have clothes, I just don't get to buy new clothing from stores on King Street anymore - funny, the clothes at Target and WalMart fit just fine!
The energy and food prices are going up - that is true - however, maybe Americans have gotten too used to living in excess. I mean, I have a flat screen TV, but what on earth do we all need flat screen TVs for? It doesn't make us any healthier or happier!
Essentially, we have become a nation of complainers who expect to be provided with everything we would ever WANT...
July 17, 2008 at 7:57 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Tammie (anonymous) says...
One thing I have learned though, for some reason, when I get my fruit or veggies from WalMart, they do NOT last!! I bought a pound of nectarines a while back and they were FRESH when I got them. Not even 3 days later, they started getting brown and soggy. I checked the temp on my crisper, it was fine. I then bought some from Food Lion (my fruit has to ALWAYS be cold), they lasted for a lot longer. Wonder why? What the hell does WalMart spray their fruit with, Round Up?
July 17, 2008 at 7:58 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
RTC (anonymous) says...
Another thing that is puzzling about this article is why would this lady's husband be eligible for disability for an abdominal aortic aneurysm? This is a condition that can be surgically repaired, and the person can go on and live a productive life. It can take easily up to a year or longer to get disabilty, so why would someone take the chance of this thing rupturing and causing almost instant death?
I can see him being out of work for awhile, but not needing to file for disability.
July 17, 2008 at 7:58 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
drp7773 (anonymous) says...
530.00 a month and she is having trouble feeding 5 on this? and I'm eating bologna what spoiled ass BS is this.
July 17, 2008 at 7:59 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
dogwoodroad (anonymous) says...
An abdominal aortic aneurysm can be repaired by surgery, but sometimes there are complications which can lead to disability...it's not like in the game of Operation! Just so you know...
July 17, 2008 at 8:03 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
nikkiP (anonymous) says...
You want to know how to save money and shop well? Ask a college student. Some of us have gotten that down to an art. Don't worry, your stomach will eventually build up a tolerance to some of the foods so the don't go straight through you.
Tripsa, I'm all down for drilling. But do you really think that'll lower oil prices? We'll have a great supply, but you know very well that the oil producers will just sell it over seas at either the same or a higher price. We get less than 10% of our oil from the middle east, and yet whenever there's "Turmoil" our prices go up, because they see it as an opportunity. That, and it's set at a global market price and for some reason our gas that comes mostly from Canada sells at that competitive price.
The CEO of Hess last year made $47 million.
And as far as parties go, the trickle down effect has proved more reliable than the Dem's approach. Also, the democratic congress likes raising taxes. I remember my friend's dad yelling at us to come listen to a radio show, where the topic was how a Dem Congress affects our economy. There was a sound clap of thundrous applause, cheering, whistling. You'd think they had just found a cure for AIDS. Um, no, they just raised our taxes in what was the biggest increase in American history. They were cheering... for raising our taxes.
July 17, 2008 at 8:06 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Tammie (anonymous) says...
CB, I think you have a still in your backyard...lol
Dogwood, I commend you for tightening your expenses and being a little smarter with your money. Plus, you are also continuing your education. Grad students get better looking loan checks than us undergrads! :-) Seriously though, watch yourself with the Ramen noodles, don't want you to get high blood pressure with all of that sodium.
Granny, you ever made macaroni noodles with butter and pepper? Mannnn...that's good. Lol
July 17, 2008 at 8:08 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
nikkiP (anonymous) says...
Hey, speaking of disability, my neighbor across the street gets $4000 a month in disability because he supposedly hurt his back. Yet I saw him rollerblading through the neighborhood with his dog running on a leash with him.
Should that be reported? He makes more than twice what my mom make and he lives along and drives a BRAND NEW mustang..
Or should I just pour flour in his gastank?
July 17, 2008 at 8:09 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
dogwoodroad (anonymous) says...
Thanks Tammie!
Actually - ramen noodles now come in a lower sodium/fat version called Choice Ramen - a little pricier, but still a meal for under a dollar (I think they cost 57 cents a package?)
July 17, 2008 at 8:12 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Tammie (anonymous) says...
Lmao @ Nikki!!! Don't do that! He's committing fraud and the insurance companies take that seriously. If he is getting 4g's a month Nikki, chances are, someone's already watching him!!!
July 17, 2008 at 8:12 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Tammie (anonymous) says...
Choice Ramen? Hmmm, haven't heard of it yet...I like the noodle bowls that WalMart have for $.87. The sodium content is off the charts but that's the first noodle bowl I've eaten and was satisfied. I don't eat it as much now that I am pregnant. Swollen ankles aint sexy.
Honestly, I shop for 3 people. Me and my best friend and her son. My best friend got laid off from her job so I make sure that when unemployment doesnt leave her with enough to buy groceries for her and her son, I help her out with as much as I can. That's the least I can do for her because my best friend has always been a blessing to me.
July 17, 2008 at 8:17 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Neponset (anonymous) says...
I usually expand the picture that is included in the articles - looks like she has selected some sort of preprepared food item.
I do the shopping and cooking and rarely buy preprepared foods, since they are expensive and not very good. If folks would get back to buying basic foods and cook from scratch, it would save money, taste better and be more healthy. Preprepared stuff is loaded with filler and sodium.
July 17, 2008 at 8:18 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
jmw9 (anonymous) says...
Good stuff dogwoodroad.
Let's think of some positive thoughts.
We hopefully still have God in your life. Maybe we can realize that this is just a test. Maybe we will learn how we can save money so when things turn for the better we'll use that to beef up our accounts. Maybe we'll learn portion control with our food and slim this fat country down. Maybe we'll figure out how spoiled we are living irresponsibly and in excess - and in these tough times learn to appreciate what we have and work and live for.
July 17, 2008 at 8:21 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Larz13 (anonymous) says...
If Slick Willie had the foresight to drill when he was in office, then we would be reaping the benefits of the oil now.
Advice--check out www.grocerygame.com. It tells you what coupons are in the Sunday paper and which stores are having sales in that particular week. Quite efficient and does save a bunch of buckaroos.
And one last thing...for the wench who cannot donate to Amnesty International, I really feel sorry for you (sarcasm). I guess no money for the anti-Guantanimo ads now.
Another another last thing.....Franzia is still $7.99 a box at Total Wine.
July 17, 2008 at 8:22 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
nikkiP (anonymous) says...
I didn't mean it to come off like that, Tripsa! I'm sorry! But alot of people seem to tell me they think that drilling (even off our own coast) will lower gas prices down to what they were years ago. I remember when I started driving in high school, and gas was creeping up to $1.50 a gallon.
Did I just give a "when I was young" story?
Tammie, no flour in the gas tank? Laaaame. He's some super liberal, atheist butthead and I just kinda want to do something mean. But I'll refrain, maybe this disability fraud will catch up with him. Or I can knock on his door and say my mom and I want thank you notes for working to support the likes of him...
btw, I say athiest butthead, not because I dislike athiests. I just dislike the ones that tell me believing in God shows I can't think for myself and obviously have mental problems but parades around with some pretty ridic bumperstickers on his car.
July 17, 2008 at 8:24 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
grannyofsix (anonymous) says...
There is a lot you can do with noodles. And don't forget lima beans are a good source of protein as well. Fix a little rice and you have a meal with a piece of fresh hot buttered corn bread.
But like everyone else we play a waiting game. After November's election I guess we just won't know all we can do is hope that thing will get better. And please let there be jobs.
July 17, 2008 at 8:24 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
deerhunter (anonymous) says...
Postman01 and Dogwoodroad have posted great comments and I truly think RTC makes a good point.
The media tells everyone "we need it now" and Americans
complied. We can get thru this as long as Obama stays out
of office.
July 17, 2008 at 8:25 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
nikkiP (anonymous) says...
Early just made my morning. I'm glad the hookers are still cheap, otherwise I don't know what I'd do with my weekends anymore.
mmmm swollen ankles. But it's awesome that you're helping your friend, Tammie. I think we need more of the people (willingly) helping people and taking care of their own mentality. Less "make the government do this" kind of thing. Was it Reagan that would have commercials trying to boost the economy, where he just sat in the office and said "hey, here's a dandy little mixer! You should buy these..."? That was nice. That's about all the involvement I need.
July 17, 2008 at 8:29 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Lovely_One (anonymous) says...
I haven't read the comments yet, so here goes!
My husband and I feed 8 people on $400 a month in cash, we get by on $400 per month in gas, our electric bill hasn't exceeded $120 in the past 6 months (knock on wood) and that is with a washer and dryer being used weekly, and we pay $400 a month in child care for my youngest. We don't clip coupons, but we do bargain shop. We limit our trips to only what is necessary and we budget for EVERYTHING! We even budget before we go out to dinner (which isn't as often as I'd like). We look at the online menus and plan our meals and tip before leaving home. Trust me, budgeting works wonders and you spend less by doing so. Oh, we don't have cable or cell phones and we cut out any and all other expenses that we deem unnecessary from month to month. We aren't starving and we do not get any assistance to keep from doing so.
July 17, 2008 at 8:34 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
algorelost (anonymous) says...
When democrates took control of the house Nancy P. promised us change. Gas was $2.30 a gal when she promised us that change, now it is over $4, I wonder if that is the type of change Obama wants to bring.
July 17, 2008 at 8:36 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
RTC (anonymous) says...
dogwoodroad, I do know. I used to work in cardiolgy and other branches of the medical field. I'm not doubting this lady's word, I'm just saying that the article is puzzling, because they don't say why her husnband needs to file for disability. Even with complications, a person should either make a full recovery or they die. It's as simple as that.
They don't say whether he needs temporary or permanent disability. My brother had a very serious brain aneurysm, and he was left with some residual problems. He cannot however get disability.
Some people do abuse the disability gig, because they can get more money on disability than they can by working.
I'm not saying this is happening in this family's case, but it does happen.
July 17, 2008 at 8:39 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
nikkiP (anonymous) says...
I used to listen to Rush until I realized crazy right wing is no better that crazy left wing. Except at least on the right, they started out trying to make sense, but things just went downhill from there.
I see this as a propagana article, in a way. It's going to scare people. But the P&C also did an article saying the low-carb diet was a good idea, so I'm not started to question to writes this.
It's important for people to realize that they do need to invest in the economy. I had an econ teacher not too long ago talking about how he knows older people that refuse to put their money in banks, and instead just keep cash everywhere because they're afraid. Most people don't realize that the money you have in the bank actually get invested into the market, helping the economy.
July 17, 2008 at 8:49 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
abitskeptical (anonymous) says...
People with large families, regardless of income, unless you're Bill Gates, always have had to make smart choices & be disciplined about how food is purchased & consumed.
We have roast chicken one night--it is mostly eaten w/ bits of meat left on the remaining carcass & my family sees those bits of chicken 2 nights later in fajitas or soup. Cereal is never bought unless I have a coupon or it is BOGO. There are many ways to cut corners.
Addressing another point brought up by CB:
"Blaming this on one political party or another is short-sided. They've all contributed to this mess but the main culprits are corporations. Business controls our economy, not the government."
I've been trying to bring forth the reality of corporate influence for a while now (much to the irritation of one poster in particular who told me I had an inordinate concern about that :) )
However, I must add that what is alive & well in this country today is corporatism(in reality fascism)--the melding of government & corporations. Corporations through strong lobbying control much of the policy & law, as well as the economy, affecting our lives.
Recognizing this influence is important. A tremendous amount of law & policy are driven purely by monetary interest of the corporations.
People probably won't be surprised to find out how many people in positions of government have vested interests in the very corporations that lobby them. And round & round they go.
July 17, 2008 at 8:50 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
dogwoodroad (anonymous) says...
sorry RTC - wasn't trying to start an argument - I agree that disability is abused...
I actually used to work in a neuro ICU - you are right - it can be extremeley difficult to get disability, even when warranted. This is hugely frustrating! Hope your brother is ok -
July 17, 2008 at 8:52 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Tammie (anonymous) says...
Larz (as usual) always manages to come in and make me crack up! Lol Thanks for that website though. And a lot of us are throwing around ideas that hopefully some of us in here or some other people reading can use!
Lovely, I feel you on the not being able to go out as much as you like. There is a website (I can't remember what is is!) that you can go to and get restaurant recipes. My best friend can make some damn good cheese garlic biscuits...courtesy of Red Lobster. For those of you that love seafood, GO FISHING!!! I LOVE crabs, shrimp, and fish! I'm thankful I live on a lake behind my house, y'all are welcome to drop by! Lol
July 17, 2008 at 8:55 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
jmw9 (anonymous) says...
In January I lost a second job that I'd had for a while. After that I realized it was time to cut back or i wouldn't make it. One of my bills that I find I can really cut back on is my electric bill since I live alone. Starting with my electric bill I got in March, my combined electric bills since then total $154.59.
I've learned to adapt.
July 17, 2008 at 8:57 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
abitskeptical (anonymous) says...
Speaking of the state of panic...
Michael Crichton's book State of Fear addresses what Early brought up...good book
July 17, 2008 at 8:59 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Lovely_One (anonymous) says...
Tammie, hubby actually found a website like that (could be the same one) and we are trying out different recipes. We shop at Sam's and trust me buying in bulk with $400 a month budget gets us plenty to work with. And I think I will take you up on that FISHING offer! We luz seafood!
July 17, 2008 at 9 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
nikkiP (anonymous) says...
I love seafood! Especially when I don't have to pay $30 for two clusters of crab legs...
I think that high schools and colleges need to start teaching financial responsibility classes. Something basic, like budgeting and what not. These kids are sometimes completely oblivious to the financial world, and when they start to live on their own they begin to make very bad decisions that get them into debt. And I'm tired of it because the government just bails them out anyway...
I actually know of one girl that said she never returns anything. If it doesn't work for any reason, she just throws it away and buys a new one. And will spend more than $75 on an article of clothing...
July 17, 2008 at 9:05 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
RTC (anonymous) says...
dogwoodroad, actually my brother is okay physically, but mentally he will never be the same, because his aneurysm was located deep in his frontal lobe, and it was huge. It was a berry aneurysm that took 5 metal clamps to close it off. It had started to leak, and if it had completely ruptured it would have been instant death.
No offense was taken, I assure you. Thanks for asking about my bro, he breaks my heart.
abitskeptical, have you been following me while I shop? :)
My husband actually brags to other men about how well I can stretch a dollar. They all want me to teach their wives how to shop. People just need to use common sense, and ask themselves if they really need to buy something, or do they just want it. I have found that the buy one-get one free deals are not always deals. They often jack up the regular price in hopes of fooling people into believing that they are getting a freebie. You have to know your prices, and look at all of the grocery ads, and decide who has the best deals. I used to shop the specials at all of the stores, but now I limit myself, so I don't waste gas driving around.
July 17, 2008 at 9:12 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
shoelaces (anonymous) says...
I know it's bad when I have to buy the cheap wine...
I am not in a situation where my family is hurting for anything - not yet anyway. But even I have been more aware of what I purchase at the grocery store. I am buying more store brand items than I would normally. That way I don't feel much pain when I splurge on indulgences like gas for the boat or a fun day with my kids.
July 17, 2008 at 9:13 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
abitskeptical (anonymous) says...
The lady in the article said she gave up her dryer this summer for a clothes line.
I haven't used my dryer much at all for the last 10 years.
I use it when we have strings of wet & damp days, but usually I hang the laundry out in the fresh air....saves on electric bill, dryer replacement(ours is almost 20 yrs old) & everything smells better.
I've never understood what it is that causes that distinct dried in the fresh air smell...but I love it....takes me back to my childhood.
July 17, 2008 at 9:15 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
nikkiP (anonymous) says...
It does, and companies are trying to adapt. I think walmart is making a new milkjug to save on the price of shipping. Small, but still something.
Ethanol is actually incredibly inefficient. Bear in mind, this comes from an engineering standpoint and not a "save the planet" thing. But it gets worse mileage and I hear is actually dirtier than gasoline. Not to mention, it's taking food as already pointed out. Also, cocaine lords are now forcing workers to begin producing corn because it's more lucrative. corn and coke, who would have thought.
There are better alternatives to corn, like soy. And who eats soy anyway.
That's just more proof that California hates America. or something along those lines. Liberals have convinced people that when you drill for oil, you'll destroy the ocean! Flipper will drown in oil! etcetc. It actually only affects what is the equivalent of a few city blocks, two or three. but as you pointed out, they've made a career opposing drilling regardless of how it would help the american and californian economy.
July 17, 2008 at 9:18 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
nikkiP (anonymous) says...
abitskeptical- don't birds poop on the clothes? I'm not even trying to make a joke, I had someone tell me that it happened to them alot. Or other little creatures would get to their laundry.
July 17, 2008 at 9:21 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
abitskeptical (anonymous) says...
Early, there are many edibles right in people's gardens...for example, in addition to bark, pansies & dandies (dandelions) are edible...
Speaking of gardens, I think CB must have a pot of gold buried in his...he keeps saying that it just isn't that bad & that he hasn't felt the effects of soaring gas prices, etc.
Do you in fact have a pot or 2 of gold buried in your garden CB?
July 17, 2008 at 9:28 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
shoelaces (anonymous) says...
abitskeptical...good point about how it's always been tough to take care of a large family. My husband grew up Catholic and he can tell stories of when meals were stretched to the n'th degree.
abitskeptical...I would line dry a few things but to me that doesn't leave the clothes smelling that fresh..??
I grew up spoiled with two working parents. Not rich but not poor. I like being able to indulge when I want to. And I don't feel guilty for it. My husband and I work hard for out money and if we want to have fun with it then that is OK. I am not really sorry some have found (or put) themselves in a situation where they are struggling.
And just get the drilling underway. Alternatives are quite expensive and not widely available to everyone. Drilling will take a few years and so will cheaper alternatives. Work on both and quit the debating.
July 17, 2008 at 9:31 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Larz13 (anonymous) says...
I can walk to Colonial Lake and I see folks fishing there at times but I am not sure that I want to eat what is caught in there.
Tammie....sorry for the spilt lemonade (again).
July 17, 2008 at 9:32 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
abitskeptical (anonymous) says...
Well, nikkip, I hang my clothes on a line(retractable) on my screened back porch, so I avoid any of the down side like bird poop etc. I do tell my son to let me know when he gets ready to mow the back yard so I can get the clothes off before they get covered in the fine debris from the mowing.
July 17, 2008 at 9:33 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
halfsheli (anonymous) says...
As someone who is not very well read on the subject...
What about sugar cne ethanol. South American countries make this product work very well. It takes less energy to make this than corn ethanol and produces more energy per unit.
I don't really care about the drilling issue. There are staggering pros and cons to doing this. Ultimately, I think that it's a non-factor. I do believe that we still need to seek alterantive energy sources.
Also, with all of the corn and money going in to corn ethanol, it might be more lucrative to actualyy use the resource. Only like 10% of cars are able to run on E-85, and only 1% of service stations even provide the stuff. Why is that?
July 17, 2008 at 9:33 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Neponset (anonymous) says...
nik
I also have a green clothes drier and use it often - have not had a problem with the birds.
July 17, 2008 at 9:34 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
DaisyMae (anonymous) says...
Tammie: admirable that you are helping your friend. Everyone should have a friend like you.
I am a single mother who, like most people, lives from paycheck to paycheck and am looking to find a part time job to actually make ends meet...comfortably. I do find it difficult to hear how people are having a hard time making ends meet with $500+ a month in food stamps when I "make too much" to qualify for assistance and after rent and bills and about $50 a paycheck to make it on. I love that I am able to take care of my daughter on my own without help, but I don't want to hear complaints either.
July 17, 2008 at 9:34 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
halfsheli (anonymous) says...
I do line dry my clothes. Don't find that bird poop is serious problem. BUT, I don't leave them out for three or fours days. When they are dry, I take them in. My husband and I also ride our bikes alot. We live in a neighborhood that allows us to ride bikes to visit friends, get dinner, go to the pub, play disc golf, etc. Many people will get in their cars to drive half a mile to get a few items from the local store. Ride your bike. Walk. Get some excercise and fresh air, and save money and fuel!
July 17, 2008 at 9:42 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
nikkiP (anonymous) says...
I'm going to have to look into this line dry thing at home. Except for the unmentionables, those don't go up in public...
halfsheli- Sugarcane based ethanol is a much better alternative. However, corn ethanol needs to be done away with and never spoken of again. It was good in theory and helped to open the door, but all around not that great. That's why few people provide it. I think most people realize the inefficiency in corn ethanol.
jane- if I new more of the content and consistency of ethanol, I could tell you more. But yeah, with any kind of piping great care is taken to avoid condensation within the pipe and whatever it's moving. water droplets can actually be very damaging to the pipes. Something regarding pressure, temperature, I forget. Not sure if cavitation is a problem there, but who knows.
Alternative energy needs to be explored, but people need to realize that things like solar and wind are nice yet ultimately will not take care of the energy needs of America. People need to take steps in their own lives with that one.
Tripsa- you've jinxed us....
July 17, 2008 at 9:44 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
nikkiP (anonymous) says...
Wish I could ride a bike to work, but it's a 30 minute drive. That might take awhile. But a bike to a pub or bar sounds good. Can't really get ticketed for DUI with that one.
Oh, and we get less than 10% of oil from the middle east. The vast majority of it comes from Canada.
July 17, 2008 at 9:48 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Test2007 (anonymous) says...
I agree with coldbeer, blaming it on a particular party is just ridiculous. I think it makes people feel better just to blame it on anyone.
Sidenote - Tripsa, stop sending me emails and get a life.
July 17, 2008 at 9:51 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
halfsheli (anonymous) says...
niki -- Why do you think that the powers that be do not tap into that sugarcane ethanol thing?
I grew up in south Louisiana and sugar cane fields used to be rampant there. They could be again if the demand was there. This could actually revive a booming industry that would bring money to some very poor communities in south Louisiana and Mississippi among other places.
July 17, 2008 at 9:52 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
halfsheli (anonymous) says...
Also, the trick with hanging unmentionables is to hide them on the "middle" or "center" lines. Put towels and sheets on the "outside" lines to sandwich them in and hide them from prying eyes!!
July 17, 2008 at 9:55 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
nikkiP (anonymous) says...
I'd like to know why they haven't explored the other sources for ethanol. They might be doing research, but I haven't read anything on that. Sugarcane is also available in texas, but I'm not sure if it's to the same extent as what is in Louisiana.
Even comparatively, sugarcane isn't the 'best' option. It's much higher up in the scale than corn, but I remember my diesel class having a lecture on alternative fuel and the professor saying that soy was one of the best options we have based on how much is required and it's overall efficiency.
I sometimes wonder if many large gas companies try and keep the alternative fuel front quiet until they can find a way to benefit from it.
July 17, 2008 at 9:56 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Tammie (anonymous) says...
Shoelaces...Verdi is a good store bought wine..and cheap!! Once I get the ok from my doc, while daddy has our daughter, I am going to drink some Verdi. Hell, one glass doesnt do it for me. Lol I love it.
Early, you are awful. Lol
Nikki, I love the king crab legs also, with some butter and garlic powder and a splash of Frank's Red Hot...yummy!! But hell, I dont have $30 for that!
July 17, 2008 at 9:56 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
nochasgirl (anonymous) says...
Tammie - I'm curious about Wal-mart fruit now. I bought bananas there on Friday night, and on Sunday morning they were brown. I thought it was odd.
July 17, 2008 at 9:57 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
lucy_fan (anonymous) says...
The economy is tight right now. We all know that. Everyone needs to find ways to tighten up and make the best of it. I know we don't eat out much anymore, maybe once a month, if that, we don't rent movies, we don't go out for a nice drive, we don't buy junk food, and we really don't miss much.
July 17, 2008 at 10:01 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
justmyopinion7 (anonymous) says...
Hemp Powered Car Debuts in Washington DC
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9Am3yUDt...
July 17, 2008 at 10:10 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
shoelaces (anonymous) says...
I have a great money making sche...plan...we get some old car titles and....
July 17, 2008 at 10:14 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
nikkiP (anonymous) says...
you can actually run a car on Everclear. I wouldn't recommend it because your engine will explode, but it'll work for a little while.
See, use soy. Way more efficient than corn and no one eats soy. Except hippie liberals.
Wait, you're using CNN as a news source? And they have something AGAINST what the left believes? the room is spinning...
July 17, 2008 at 10:18 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Tammie (anonymous) says...
Nochas, I really wonder about their produce. I've had that happen with their 'naners too. I get my produce from the fruit and veggie stands or somewhere like Food Lion. I dont want to feel like I am wasting money again.
July 17, 2008 at 10:22 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
MissPriss (anonymous) says...
lol @ Early and the cheap hookers. At least the cost of beer hasn't gone up.
Shoelaces....great idea. I'm in!! :)
July 17, 2008 at 10:24 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
justmyopinion7 (anonymous) says...
Gas companies can charge whatever they want. They raise prices to instill panic, and get more public land leases from the government. Raising the ban on offshore drilling puts billions and billions in their pockets.
There are plenty alternative sources of power. There is plenty of new technology, but the power companies keep buying them out. They bought out the technology for the new battery that would have made the electric car affordable for everyone.
I think we should use already existing technology, such as BioDiesel to before we threaten our coasts. We just have too many hurricanes here to make drilling work.
July 17, 2008 at 10:26 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
nikkiP (anonymous) says...
Not in the pacific! Drill there. And those rigs can withstand a hurrican, they're very securely built because of things like that. So drill here too.
And power companies aren't buying out alternative power to keep it secret and away from the coal-dependent public. Power companies are working to expand the alternative energy foundation because it will actually help them out a great deal in the long run.
July 17, 2008 at 10:30 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
MissPriss (anonymous) says...
lol @ funkyjazz82!
July 17, 2008 at 10:42 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
nikkiP (anonymous) says...
I wasn't sure who Che was so I wikipedia-ed it. They make him sound like a hero, even with his execution. No mention of what he did or the racist things he believed.
He was in the Times 100 most influential, and they act like he was a savior.
Glad condoms didn't go up, since hookers are still cheap.
July 17, 2008 at 10:44 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
justmyopinion7 (anonymous) says...
Hemp Powered Car Debuts in Washington DC
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9Am3yUDt...
BIODIESEL!
July 17, 2008 at 10:47 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Tammie (anonymous) says...
Lol @ CB, you and Early and terrible...
Shoelaces..count me in too...I think...
July 17, 2008 at 10:47 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
halfsheli (anonymous) says...
Incidentally, Che is not the hero of ALL liberals. That's just silly. That's like saying that ALL conservatives worship and hang on every word uttered by Jerry Falwell. Overgeneralizations do not strengthen arguments.
July 17, 2008 at 11:08 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
halfsheli (anonymous) says...
Having liberal beliefs does NOT make one radical. Does believing in the Christian God make any one of you radical Christians. Does believing in Santa Claus make a child a radical delusional perpetuator of the commercialism and hijacking of a sacred religious holiday?
July 17, 2008 at 11:11 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
willie08 (anonymous) says...
Newt, good source democracynow.org
Halfsheli, good point
Another good website is deoxy.org
Great stuff
July 17, 2008 at noon ( permalink | suggest removal )
halfsheli (anonymous) says...
Imagine the size of the SUVs that we could drive if we clould get our grubby hands on even some of that 94% locked up by hostile governments. My mouth is watering just at the thought. I could drive a hummer that tows an Rv that uses a gas-powered generator while pouring gallons of oil on the heads of baby seals... Ha!
July 17, 2008 at 12:12 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
willie08 (anonymous) says...
halfsheli, I wouldn't ever have to walk anywhere again.
July 17, 2008 at 12:27 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
halfsheli (anonymous) says...
walk? I would buy gas-powered shoes!
July 17, 2008 at 12:32 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
abitskeptical (anonymous) says...
On the subject of rising costs of gas & food, I'll open another can of worms.
How many, who are using assistance &/or complaining about making ends meet, regularly spend money on all sorts of frivolous & unnecessary things?
As just one example:
I cannot count the times I've seen someone pull out food stamps with those obviously recently "done" fake fingernails.
Look down at their feet & you'll see some "fancy" do-dad pattern & nail polish on their toenails as well. I have no idea of the exact amount charged for getting all of that done, but it ain't cheap. Additionally, these people must not do very much. How can anyone get anything done with 2 in. fingernails?
It is an amazing thing to realize what some people consider a NECESSARY monthly expense.
I know that all who are struggling with the rising costs are not guilty of this. Lots of folks have cut back in various areas. I just am relating something I've observed for a long time.
I never have gotten the wild finger & toenail thing anyway, but I especially do not get it when folks are struggling &/or accepting assistance in getting groceries for their family.
July 17, 2008 at 12:42 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Tammie (anonymous) says...
I went to Piggly Wiggly for my aunt and a gallon of milk is $6!!! What kind of cow did this milk come from, a Christian Dior cow?
July 17, 2008 at 1:11 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
trod1 (anonymous) says...
Whata buncha crap.i feed a family of 5 similar ages 5 ,9,17 for around 550 bucks or so a month easily.some needs to learn how to budget and plan meals.as for the presidential talk its a shame these two jokers running are the best we as a nation can come up with.
July 17, 2008 at 1:17 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
nikkiP (anonymous) says...
People who sell their cars for a brand new hybrid are also creating waste with the old car.
We buy less than 10% of our oil from the middle east! Am I the only one hearing this? I think there are lists available of which gas companies get oil from where.
but regardless of the oil available, it's still important to find an alternative. a VIABLE alternative. Not solar, that's just a pipe dream.
July 17, 2008 at 1:18 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
trod1 (anonymous) says...
6 bucks even publix or teeters milk is cheaper than that!
July 17, 2008 at 1:19 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
nikkiP (anonymous) says...
so does that mean we only use 6% of the oil available? does that mean we use that much less gas than other countries?
Hey when do we get to use the federal reserves? and why are they taking so much lately? it's for ted kennedy's boat, isn't it? He wont' be driving that anytime soon, let's start freeing up those barrels.
July 17, 2008 at 1:22 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Tammie (anonymous) says...
Trod, that's why I have to wonder where the hell that cow came from!!! $6 is expensive!!
July 17, 2008 at 1:23 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
trod1 (anonymous) says...
buying a used civic or such is a better alternative to buying a new hybrid financially.10 k for the honda or what have you vs 23 for the hybrid. im not going to use 13k in gas in 5 years .
July 17, 2008 at 1:25 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Osgood30 (anonymous) says...
I think its very short-sighted and ignorant to blame just one group or just one person. Its not just Bush's fault, or just the democrats, big business, oil companies, mortgage lenders, etc. It EVERYONE'S FAULT.
Its your fault for living above your means and not reading your mortgage contract. Its the governments fault for subsidizing fossil fuel refining (thus keeping fuel costs artificially low). Its Bush's fault for over extending our military and building a horrific deficit.
Essentially, I feel, we are seeing a much needed correction due to decades and decades of fiscal irresponsibility in this country (by all of us).
We have not seen the end of this. Whoever is elected this fall had better make some tough economic decisions. We can not have our cake, and eat it too.
Americans have a weird sense of entitlement. We deserve cheap fuel, 2 cars, low taxes, health insurance, public schools, etc. Non of which are mentioned the Constitution. But I digress. Maybe this situation will help us re-evaluate our priorities.
The good news - you must go through bad times to appreciate the good.
July 17, 2008 at 1:26 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
trod1 (anonymous) says...
I do a lot of my bulk shopping at wally world.and some meat.but i will go to publix or wherever for better meat and things.some of the walmart meat scares me to eat it.
July 17, 2008 at 1:28 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
nikkiP (anonymous) says...
newt.... seriously? You're comparing wind to nuclear? omg.
wind power doesn't have the capacity. The largest wind field on earth is a mere 180MW, most small coal plants trump that with no problem. Wind power is a great SUPPLEMENT but cannot provide what is necessary due to today's growth.
Nuclear power, small units, generate over 200MW. This is all based on per/hour as well. They're incredibly safe, incredibly clean, and very very efficient. The only problem facing nuclear plants (besides idiots...) is the cost of materials right now, which is affecting everything. There's a huge price tag and they take awhile to get up, but they are the best alternative to gas and coal available.
Why is wind "booming?" Because everyone and their mother (neither of which know anything about power generation) things it's the savior of today. If the largest wind turbine can only generate 5MW an hour, how many do you need to generate say... 600MWs? And where are you going to put those? Those are strictly for the water, the ones on land do even less. They're great to put up in your own yard to provide power for your home, but they cannot sustain the power for a country.
No one can build nuclear because greenpeace and the aforementioned idiots and politicians are all freaking out and screaming "chernobyl."
July 17, 2008 at 1:35 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
nikkiP (anonymous) says...
everytime someone becomes liberal, a puppy dies. True story.
I shouldn't say that, I know plenty of intelligent liberals. I like to call them 'moderates.' It's the extremist liberals that irk me.
July 17, 2008 at 1:47 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
nikkiP (anonymous) says...
nuclear engineering classes, three years of working at a power plant. you?
July 17, 2008 at 1:49 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
nikkiP (anonymous) says...
oh, and a project about researching the feasibility for wind power near myrtle beach and georgetown, that was actually fun.
July 17, 2008 at 1:51 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Tammie (anonymous) says...
Lol @ Tripsa
Gadsden, I couldnt remember if it was the Coburg brand or Piggly Wiggly but hell, it wasn't my dime. I dont really drink milk like that (although I should but I think ice cream counts...). I'm scared to get milk from Wal-Mart for the same reason I am scared to buy fruit from there, I'm afraid it'll go bad quick.
July 17, 2008 at 2:04 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
nikkiP (anonymous) says...
newt, just newt, no need to resort to name calling unless we're three. Or that's all you can do.
Energy needs to move away from coal and natural gas. I said several times that wind, solar if it can be done efficiently, is a great supplement.
There is also hydro power, tidal power, and many many others. There are companies working to develop an amazing amount of underwater turbines that work in various capacities. Currently, there are projects (and some already on the grid) to use landfull gas, as well as the methane from farm animal waste.
Some of them have great potential, others probably won't pan out.
I know the possibilities. What do you think students like me are going to do for the rest of their lives as a career?
Nuclear is the best and most efficient we have. I was skeptical until talking to professors and a friend that is a nuclear engineer in georgia.
Once again: best, not only. There are supplements, just as we have now.
July 17, 2008 at 2:07 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
walleyedwoman1215 (anonymous) says...
I spend $160 monthly for two adults and we eat well! Try container gardening for fresh tomatoes, squash, eggplant, pole beans and zucchini. At Aldi's no-frills mart in Columbia (it's a lot of gas, but if you're going to Cola anyway...), buy a 24-ounce jar of marinara sauce for $2, same size salsa for $1.85, whole wheat pasta (feeds 4) for $1.40, 3 dozen large eggs for $3.50 and canned potatoes, green beans and soups for about 65 cents per can. All are delicious.
Hit Bi-lo or Wal-Mart after 7 p.m. and get a fat rotisserie chicken (cooked that morning) for $3. Buy seasonings/ herbs at "Everything's a Dollar", along with books, toys, toothpaste, soap, moisturizer, greeting cards, deodorant, makeup, scented body spray, detergent, air freshener, shredded cheese and canned nuts.
I buy 80 percent of my clothes, including shoes, belts and purses, at thrift shops.
For cleaning tubs, toilets, countertops and windows, mix equal parts baking soda and white vinegar; apply, then dry, with old newspapers for a streak-free gleam.
Need entertainment? Get books and DVDs from the library, or better yet, play cards or Trivial Pursuit @ the dining room table.
I love to save a dollar!!!
July 17, 2008 at 2:10 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
lucy_fan (anonymous) says...
tripsa- I think you got a crush out there, hun :)
July 17, 2008 at 2:22 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
nikkiP (anonymous) says...
I don't get my information from fox news. Fox news has lately become a place to get celebrity gossip.
And don't judge, it's rude. Especially on something like this, a web forum. Who does things like that?
you're reading from whatever you read, I learn from classes, studies, books, and a working knowledge of the efficiency of these things. And once again, I said use the alternatives.
Ideally, I think people need to be more energy conscious and putting a curb to the rapidly rising growth rate of energy consumption starts with the individual and the home.
I also said that the biggest problem facing nuclear (besides greenpeace) is it's hefty pricetag.
Try reading something besides that one article by one scientist. At work we have an archive of media releases from various websites, newpapers, etc. It's not politically driven, just done by basic search criteria, and it's very informative.
And once again, don't judge. it's rude.
July 17, 2008 at 2:26 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
lucy_fan (anonymous) says...
Walmart is cheaper on most of their prices. Gadsden- did you have a bad experience with the milk from there? I never have. Of course, I dont' use much, but hubby and daughter have never said anthing.
Tammie- you do have a point about the produce. It's awful. I shop at the one in Summerville, and never by fresh produce from there. As far as their meats, we rarely eat anything besides chicken or fish, so I buy the bags of boneless chicken breasts from there, and thats about it for meat.
July 17, 2008 at 2:28 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
greyrider (anonymous) says...
How does Bush profit from oil skyrocketting if we're buying so much of it overseas because we refuse to drill here?
Granted "Bush and his cronies" would benefit if we drill our own oil, but I'd much rather see "Bush and his cronies" get rich than Bin Laden and his cronies.
Middle East oil? American oil? Hmmm, not a hard one for me.
July 17, 2008 at 2:31 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
lucy_fan (anonymous) says...
nikkiP- apparently Newt judges.
July 17, 2008 at 2:37 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
nikkiP (anonymous) says...
wow, someone needs a nap. Seriously, I just said stop name calling. It's unnecessary when trying to have an actual discussion. And it's very rude, and there's no reason to be proud of that. It's called common decency, but I can play that game with you.
You're not agreeing. You're doing that thing where you pick out specific things I post and respond, while you use name calling as filler. Meanwhile, saying "why don't you open your eyes and see that there are alternatives." Leaving me here, scratching my head thinking "I said that already..."
And sweetheart, don't even try to say I'm sensitive and a "big baby." I could care less what some random person on a reply thread calls me. I'm smart enough to realize that you do not know me or my personality at all. There's no merit for offense. But you want a tip, resorting to name calling is a great way to say "I give up." Act with some decorum. Notice no one else on here does that.
July 17, 2008 at 2:39 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
nikkiP (anonymous) says...
lucy, you made me realize something. I don't know why I started responding to him, or even bothered pointing that out. Holy crap, I just wasted a monumental amount of time that I'll never be able to get back...
Sooooo... about the price of milk.
July 17, 2008 at 2:41 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
nikkiP (anonymous) says...
jane- oooooh. okay. I really hadn't heard much about the federal reserves, other than that the amount put in there had increased recently. But that makes sense, considering the whole achmenijainspacenoonecanhearyouscream issue and everything going on in the middle east right now.
newt's a woman? huh
July 17, 2008 at 2:44 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
dogwoodroad (anonymous) says...
I still think Al Gore should be penalized with a windfall tax...I mean, how much money did he make off that "truth" movie?
Again - the major problem is, we are all a bunch of complainers who think that luxuries are necessities...end of story.
July 17, 2008 at 2:45 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
lucy_fan (anonymous) says...
nikkiP-
You are much better than that. But at least you didn't stoop to her level with the name calling. She seems to get enjoyment out of ragging on others, and name calling.
July 17, 2008 at 2:45 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Tammie (anonymous) says...
Jane sez:"Tammie, as for that $6 per gallon..well the cow either has golden ni**les.." Lmao
It was Piggly Wiggly on Harborview Road on James Island. Piggly Wiggly is highly overpriced, which is why I dont shop there. My aunt swears by the Pig. Have that..
July 17, 2008 at 2:47 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
nikkiP (anonymous) says...
I think there's a deeper problem when people begin to fault the rich just for having money. I know everyone is just saying it in jest, but have you talked to people that will say things like "if we need money, tax the rich more." or things along that line. I can understand taxing al gore, just because I dislike him with great intensity and the whole "using close to 30 times the amount of energy the average american does."
which, recently increased. It should be a crime the way he lies to and misleads the public for his own profits. Would that be propaganda?
thanks, lucy. I my heart rate had almost started to change.
July 17, 2008 at 2:50 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
lucy_fan (anonymous) says...
dogwoodroad- you are so right. As prices have gone up, I have had to cut back (and out) on a lot of things. And ya know what? I'm still good. Still living life. Not really missing anything. I don't really need any more shoes. Hell, I have 40+ pairs of flip flops, countless pairs of heels. I didn't really need to go to the tanning bed now that summer is here and the beach is free. Can do without as much makeup now that I have some sun on my face. It's all good. But before all this, I would have never felt this way!!!
July 17, 2008 at 2:50 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
guidedbystewart (anonymous) says...
I don't think I have all of the answers but this my take on things...
All energy sources have there positives and negatives.
Coal is abundant, but it's dirty and pollutes the environment (as a coastal community, global warming should especially concern us, especially the rich folks living on the coast).
Nuclear is efficient, but there is that pesky problem of disposing the waste, it's pricy and yes uranium will not last for ever either.
Oil is also efficient, but most of it is contained in unstable or hard to get to environments, out all energy sources we utilize it the most and we are most addicted to it and it not going to last for ever.
I personally would not be against drilling (let's face it, it's eventually going to happen anyway) if we do it carefully but the better we are at exploit oil, the quicker it goes away (which to me seems a little selfish).
Reality is that cheap energy sources are a thing of the past and even if we drill now by the time actually extract it China's and India's energy consumption will probably double if not triple.
To me conservation is a must, and America really needs to take a look at changing the ways that got us into this mess in the first place. We as a nation are the largest consumers of energy (though China and India are quickly catching up), using 25% of the worlds energy while we have only 5% of the worlds population. People really address are concerns about sprawl. We need to invest in better public transportation throughout the country. We need to start producing electric cars (while they use energy, they are still much more efficient than gas engine cars) and so on.
July 17, 2008 at 3:04 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
lucy_fan (anonymous) says...
tripsa- I figured as much. Glad 'chics' dig ya!! Big brain and all. ;)
July 17, 2008 at 3:05 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Tammie (anonymous) says...
Posted by Gadsden on July 16, 2008 at 3:52 p.m.
"....or fire up a blunt and realize that arguing on the internet is like the special olympics: no matter who wins, you're still retarted."
Stop all that damn back and forth nonsense!!
Courtesy of Gadsden...:-)
July 17, 2008 at 3:09 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
lucy_fan (anonymous) says...
Gadsden- that's ok. My posts are not nearly as rivoting as some of the others here. I think the gas stations have fairly good prices on milk to get people in there. And yes, they really do sell other things besides gas and beer!!!!
July 17, 2008 at 3:09 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
nikkiP (anonymous) says...
the waste is a small amount, right now most plants store it on sight for a few decades. France recycles their used rods, and I wish I knew why that hasn't been brought up here to the public.
now the $12B+ pricetag... yeeeeeah. that's a huge problem. And I have no idea what the plan is with that, besides pass the cost to the customers, many of whom couldn't afford the increase in their bills.
July 17, 2008 at 3:10 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
nikkiP (anonymous) says...
so,
Milk: prices are rising, it's fatty, and PETA hates it.
Beer: will actually get cheaper after the InBev deal. Low in calories. And gives me that warm fuzzy feeling.
Beer wins. I'll stop buying the milk now.
July 17, 2008 at 3:12 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
halfsheli (anonymous) says...
I'mmmm baaaack!
jane and tripsa -- you missed the point. I ride a bike almost everywhere I go. I do drive to work because it is a 20 mile commute. Sometimes I drive and then ride -- depending on the distance I need to go. And, when I do need to drive, I don't drive a Prius.
tripsa, you wrote:
"Your wasting your time, reality is something the left seems to ignore at our cost - they do not care. They dont care for the truth and they dont care for their nation.
The only care about the religion of earth worship, and their leftist ideology."
NOT AT ALL TRUE!!! Left-minded thinkers, liberals, conservatives, etc... I think we all care for our nation. We just go about it in different ways. You might assume that I hate my country because i do not adhere to your ideology.
I do not buy into all of anyone's ideology. Left or Right. I agree with parts of any ideology that I believe best suit this nation and her citizens -- ALL of them.
Once again, insults and overgeneralizations do not strengthen your arguments; they weaken them.
Actually, I'd rather read your posts that promote "right" idea as opposed to the ones where you insult -- well pretty much anyone who thinks differently -- because those posts at least make valid arguments.
July 17, 2008 at 3:15 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Tammie (anonymous) says...
Gadsden, Hoggly Woggly? Lmao!!!
Jane, I LOVE Whole Foods. They make an oatmeal cake that is sooooooooooooo good. Now you have me craving it...darn you Jane! Darn you to heck! lol
July 17, 2008 at 3:21 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
greyrider (anonymous) says...
Reading Newt's posts reminds me of Roseann Roseannadanna going off on SNL's Weekend Update years ago. One of these days, she's going to realize all of us Christian right-wingers are right, and she's just going to say "....oh, never mind."
July 17, 2008 at 3:23 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
guidedbystewart (anonymous) says...
Gadsden,
Your an idiot,
What do base your info on, Fox News (I know fair and balenced);
Yep, just like cigarettes don't kill either. The fact is that any reputable scientist that actually studies the climate (and not the ones paid off by the oil lobby) state that global warming is indeed a reality. But, through your own ignorance, delusional idiots like you bury there heads in the sand and deny we don't have a problem. It will be your friends coastal homes, not mine. Don't say I didn't tel you so.
July 17, 2008 at 3:28 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
grannyofsix (anonymous) says...
Wow!!! I leave and this posting almost doubles. My goodness.
I actually did well today I got 11 people jobs today. So I feel better. Just wish this gas and food price thing would get better too. I also Paid 4.89 for a gal of milk I almost didn't get it but I love milk second to Pepsi.
July 17, 2008 at 3:31 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
nikkiP (anonymous) says...
This is exactly what halfshelli's been saying. Don't make broad generalizations like that.
July 17, 2008 at 3:32 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
nikkiP (anonymous) says...
aw, newt's gonna make me cry. Or something. I forget how that was supposed to go.
Okay, I have to ask. what is bread pudding? that's the second time this week I've heard that and I have no clue what it is. But I love bread, and I like pudding. Seems like a good idea.
July 17, 2008 at 3:35 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
guidedbystewart (anonymous) says...
For Gadsden
http://science.nationalgeographic.com...
yes, but National Geographic liberal hooey, right?
July 17, 2008 at 3:37 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Tammie (anonymous) says...
Gadsden...I'll see your H'wood bread pudding and raise you some...(Bout to take it back baby!) MEETING STREET PIGGLY WIGGLY CORN BREAD.
Ha! Lol
July 17, 2008 at 3:39 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
halfsheli (anonymous) says...
oh jane -- don't get your panties in a bunch. I was making fun of the whole situation and all of our comments-- not just you. I'm very funny and I like to poke fun at stuff. I do poke fun at myself too! Otherwise, sometimes I'd be short on material!
This is a serious topic, but sometimes the discussion needs a bit of a lightening up! Otherwise the links and the rants and the insults get a bit cahrazey!
July 17, 2008 at 3:41 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
grannyofsix (anonymous) says...
Oops sorry that wasn't supposed to go. I hit the wrong thing
I was trying to say every notice when gas goes up milk a cigarettes go up almost the same price
July 17, 2008 at 3:42 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
nikkiP (anonymous) says...
gadsden, you can go to
therealstoryonmercury.com
and they can help you with alot of that.
July 17, 2008 at 3:44 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
grannyofsix (anonymous) says...
I drive and drink milk don't smoke anymore but I have seen this pattern for over 40 years
July 17, 2008 at 3:44 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
halfsheli (anonymous) says...
I like you too, Tripsa! I am absolutely a whacko! Just not a leftist one! I do have some liberal opinions on most social issues, but I can be somewhat conservative, too. I might fall slightly on the left side of the middle. But, I'm really pretty moderate.
I do however disagree that liberals hate their country. That's just not fair!
July 17, 2008 at 3:46 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
lucy_fan (anonymous) says...
Y'all need to stop with the food poker!! You are making me very hungry. My ceasar salad was so nasty I had to throw it away. No lunch for me and not not only are y'all talking about food, you're talking 'bout all the kinds of food I CAN'T HAVE!!!!!
July 17, 2008 at 3:50 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
greyrider (anonymous) says...
Newt - May The Force Be With You
If food's getting too expensive, just start huntin' gators. Plenty to go around.
July 17, 2008 at 3:51 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Tammie (anonymous) says...
Gadsden, damn you. You hit me in the heart with pastrami and corned beef. Low blow to a pregnant woman. Boooo. Lol
Now you have me wanting one..darn you to heck too!
July 17, 2008 at 3:53 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
nikkiP (anonymous) says...
gator does taste good.
back to the bread pudding. Can anyone explain that to me?
July 17, 2008 at 3:55 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Tammie (anonymous) says...
Granny, do you drink milk and Pepsi like Laverne and Shirley? Lol
July 17, 2008 at 3:57 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
lucy_fan (anonymous) says...
nikkiP- bread pudding is stale bread, eggs, cream (or milk) raisins,vanilla, and cinnamon. Baked til golden and yummy!!
July 17, 2008 at 3:59 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
halfsheli (anonymous) says...
bread pudding -- deeeeelicious! Basically it's bread soaked in an eggwash type mixture (like french toast) and then baked. Usually topped with a rum sauce. Look up some recipes on the net. It's not really pudding, but after preparation the bread has an almost custard-ish consistency. I would reccomend a bananas foster bread pudding! I think Emeril has a recipe on the food network website!
July 17, 2008 at 4 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Tammie (anonymous) says...
Nikki, you must not be from down here. Bread pudding is sooooo good. Lol Its bread, fruit cocktail, vanilla extract (I use Kahlua, which also makes good french toast), condensed milk, and some other stuff (I havent made it in forever!)...it's good.
Damn, now YOU got me wanting that. You're on my darn you to heck list too.
Subliminal messages make preggie woman hungry!
July 17, 2008 at 4:02 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
nikkiP (anonymous) says...
What does my God have to do with how an individual feels about me?
July 17, 2008 at 4:02 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
nikkiP (anonymous) says...
tammie, I didn't mean to give you a craving! And no, I wasn't born in South Carolina. but I had figured I'd know of most southern foods by now. I think I might go home and see if I can make this. Especially with the whole "rum" thing
July 17, 2008 at 4:04 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Tammie (anonymous) says...
Lucy, you use stale bread? I use fresh bread.
July 17, 2008 at 4:06 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
shoelaces (anonymous) says...
I left the discussion about 200 comments ago but this one made me laugh....
"condoms haven't gone up."
If your condoms don't go up then you are doing it wrong.
July 17, 2008 at 4:08 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Tammie (anonymous) says...
It's not hard. I remember the first time I made it, I made sooo much of it, I had to take it to work the next day to share with everyone. I think it was the Kahlua..lol Then again, I always cook like I am going to feed a family of five. But I dont waste it, I share.
July 17, 2008 at 4:09 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
guidedbystewart (anonymous) says...
Gadsden,
So where do you get you numbers and this information (I still don't believe you numbers)? At the very least we know that global warming is a reality, whether or not scientist are able to substantiate this with empirical evidence may be debatable, but it doesn't disprove it either. So, even if you can not prove it with a shadow of doubt, the consequences if global warming is caused by man should at least have us worried.
July 17, 2008 at 4:10 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
halfsheli (anonymous) says...
Stale bread actually soaks up more of the gooey goodness of the egg mixture. Therefore the bread pudding is even more moist!
July 17, 2008 at 4:10 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
halfsheli (anonymous) says...
But, when using stale bread -- use more of the mixture for yummy moistness.
July 17, 2008 at 4:12 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
nikkiP (anonymous) says...
I should try that and bring it to work. My mom complains when I make sweet stuff around the house because she can't eat it. Diabetes thing and all.
Newt- no one's forced you into believing in God on this thread, yet you insist on trying to make us feel like He doens't exist. Save yourself the time.
July 17, 2008 at 4:15 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
greyrider (anonymous) says...
Global Warming is a reality. Global Cooling is a reality. It is definitely warmer than it was 200 years ago. It is definitely cooler than it was 2000 years ago. I'm not worried. I'm one of those few people that gets excited when I see the forecast calling for the heat index to hit triple digits. What do you think God invented beaches for?
July 17, 2008 at 4:19 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Tammie (anonymous) says...
Sheli, mine always comes out nice and moist when I use fresh bread. I try to make bread pudding the same day I buy the bread. Hmm, your idea doesn't suck though. Lol
July 17, 2008 at 4:25 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Tammie (anonymous) says...
Lmao @ Shoelaces!!!
July 17, 2008 at 4:25 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
nikkiP (anonymous) says...
Didn't they think that the earth was in a cooling phase a couple decades ago?
July 17, 2008 at 4:27 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
shoelaces (anonymous) says...
Thanks Tripsa....I feel all warm and fuzzy inside :)
CB...we toast the river gods frequently...they giveth and they taketh away.....
I think I will go toast them now.
July 17, 2008 at 4:28 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
nikkiP (anonymous) says...
I've been toasting the gamecock god the past few years, and all I've really gotten out of it is drunk.
I mean, i'm okay with that. But just once I'd like to go to a game and win against a good team. or actually beat a bad team with a respectable margin...
July 17, 2008 at 4:31 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Tammie (anonymous) says...
I toast the momtini goddess of bellies...The one who tells me I can't have my Verdi, tequila, and Absolut, cream soda, iced coffee, etc.
Come to think of it, darn her too.
KIDDING!!
COLD BEER IS THE NECTAR OF THE DEVIL! :-)
July 17, 2008 at 4:36 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Tammie (anonymous) says...
"Nice and moist" is what has me in my present situation Tripsa and CB...teeheehee.
July 17, 2008 at 4:39 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
walleyedwoman1215 (anonymous) says...
Newt wrote: "Remember I hate all organized religions! I could care less if they pray in a building with a neon cross or turn to the east or chant, they are all opiates for the weak minded!"
Gee, when something doesn't work for me I usually just... ignore it and live my life. Why all the vitriol? (*Is fully aware that a Newt flame is iminent, rolls over to expose soft underbelly.*)
July 17, 2008 at 4:45 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
MissPriss (anonymous) says...
LoL @ Tammie, CB, and Tripsa!
July 17, 2008 at 4:52 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Tammie (anonymous) says...
I'm outta here...y'all have a wonderful evening, drive carefully if you aren't already home and all that fun stuff.
Take care.
July 17, 2008 at 4:57 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
willie08 (anonymous) says...
Posted by ColdBeer on July 17, 2008 at 4:23 p.m. (Suggest removal)
The God of Beer certainly exists. If you toast him properly at the begining of a fishing trip, he will reward you with a bountiful catch.
ALCOHOLISM KILLS
July 17, 2008 at 5:12 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
jmw9 (anonymous) says...
How much does it cost to proofread before posting so that it's not so hard to read?
July 17, 2008 at 5:48 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
shoelaces (anonymous) says...
who invited WILLIE????
Free Willie......
July 17, 2008 at 6:16 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
buff_o_rilla (anonymous) says...
Us Americans have the wrong idea's, We need to live like the illegal aliens... 3 Families to a residence, 1 Automobile, Everyone pools their money, Then go buy a taco truck or open a mexican restaurant. Seems they are smart enuff to know the strength that comes with numbers.
July 17, 2008 at 7:33 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
SomeTruthPlease (anonymous) says...
I moved to Goose Creek over a year ago, but still sometimes drive into Summerville to shop at Mr. K's, either on Cedar St., or in Knightsville, for his meat prices. We eat a lot of chicken, and he probably still has boneless, skinless chicken breast for $1.99 a lb. Same price for Ground Chuck, if I remember. I look at the ads every week. I don't pay for the newspaper, so I have to pull it up online, and all the ads are there. I spend a little extra time getting exactly what I need. I plan meals around what's on sale. Pasta and rice have been two of our faves, so it's not like punishment. A good potato salad is inexpensive and filling, and so is Orzo. I make a fabulous chicken and rice, but use Orzo instead. If I buy shrimp, I find a roadside guy and load up. Jumbo heads-on is $5.99 a lb. in Goose Creek right now, and that's at the new Oriental market on Redbank. Yes, they're local! I am looking into Ethos for my car...haven't used it yet, but it looks promising from what I've seen. If it can increase my gas mileage by only ten percent, it's worth it. I wish I had over $500. to spend on my four=person family each month. I know that there are months I spend less than that. I don't buy the name brand milk...get the store brand, and if it's cheaper at a convenience store, I get it there. If you haven't used Restaurant.com, you should. I get coupons for some great places to eat, and save a chunk of money. Two of the best are for Fisherman's Quarters in Summerville, and Amazon in Goose Creek. I'm not big on coupon-clipping, but when I can save $25. on a $35.00 or more meal, you can bet I'll remember that one! You have to learn to make do with what you have. That sure is what I'm doing...I can cook a chicken thigh a multitude of ways.
July 17, 2008 at 7:58 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
willie08 (anonymous) says...
Man can only control what he does to his environment, and how he works with it.
Although we will always have Tsunamis, Earthquakes, and Hurricanes, we can learn to survive them through better technology (Architecture, Warnings, Energy, Organization, Community). We CAN control these things, and we must be smart about them.
Great movement of the earth will continue, and we must be prepared for it. Drilling in on our coasts that are constantly destroyed by hurricanes is pointless, if a hurricane will come and knock it all down, spill oil in our already polluted waters.
We must not add to the problem. Whether you think global warming exists or not I don't care. I listen to the Scientists, who over 90% of the world scientists believe it is real. The cause is our way of life. Now the politicians, EVEN BUSH, are starting to recognize it.
This is a chance for us to really turn our lives around and start becoming dependent on more efficient and environment friendly forms of energy (which already exist, but are not being used to their fullest potential).
The Hopi believe the world was destroyed and rebuilt several times.
They, as well as the Mayans, believe something is going to happen soon to our world. So do Scientists. Let's use our logic.
Why do we not use the already existing earth friendly sources of energy? Why can't we choose BioDiesel at the Gas Station?
Why are we feeding the greedy corporate billionaires by becoming so dependent on them?
There is technology out there that will allow us to even produce our OWN energy and food in very limited space. We can change the way we live completely, if we let the scientists come forth with their technology, and give them the merit it deserves. We live in a century if great inventions and science. We can evolve further as human beings. Do you want us to evolve, or become an Idiocracy?
Let's close the doors to the oil companies, that have done nothing but make us dependent on oil that is ruining our environment (water, marshes, mountains, and air- all of which human life needs to survive) and let's open the door to clean efficient, and never ending energy (sun, wind, wave, biodiesel).
July 17, 2008 at 9:01 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
UrGatorbait (anonymous) says...
Econ 101
Corporations don't pay taxes...the consumer does. It looks good for politicians to raise "windfall profits" taxes on corporations. The ignorant masses believe and they get to pay more for the products and they carry on in ignorant bliss.
July 17, 2008 at 10:42 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
lifes_adventure (anonymous) says...
Wow! Seems to be a bunch of whiners on this board. You guys need to buck up and watch some "Little House on the Prairie" reruns. They'll teach you the true meaning of struggle and conservation. he he ha...:)Man, that Mary is a saint...
July 17, 2008 at 11:01 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
lifes_adventure (anonymous) says...
Hey, I have an idea. Let's start a food swapping endeavor. I'll trade you my 2 year-old can of sauerkraut for a bag of frozen brussel sprouts. Any takers?
July 17, 2008 at 11:11 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
willie08 (anonymous) says...
Also, for some reason my food expenses have not gone up.
I don't eat all the crap that these posters apparently eat.
I tried buying more local, but local is more expensive than food from South America or Australia sometimes, so there goes the high gas price explanation. If I pay more, it's only because I prefer to give my money to the right people who I feel I can trust to give me safer, more ecologically friendly food, thus more organic or natural.
This leads me to believe that this is all just inflation, and has nothing to do with oil hysteria. Perhaps, and don't get mad at me you posters, this is all a big conspiracy from the oil companies to make us panic and demand we drill in protected areas. Fear has been known to be a great motivator in politics and history. The oil companies can raise or lower their gas prices as they please. The supply has not run out yet!
I don't eat meat, and if I did, I certainly wouldn't eat it out of a can that cost only $1 or so. (I don't know what canned meat goes for these days). Yuk!
July 17, 2008 at 11:15 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
lifes_adventure (anonymous) says...
The hot air streaming from Pelosi's mouth could fuel the world for generations yet to come. Democrats out, Republicans in for now and forever...Never will I vote for a Democratic anything ever again! I denounce my New England heritage. Please forgive me for my past indiscretions (i.e. arrogance).
July 18, 2008 at 12:34 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
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