Posted by draftdot on July 4, 2008 at 8:13 a.m. (Suggest removal)

a 19 year old w/ "only minor drug and alcohol violations and convictions" & he stabs 3 people (including a female)-

oh, but he sounds like such a sweet kid...

Posted by lowcountrylover on July 4, 2008 at 8:14 a.m. (Suggest removal)

THE JUDGE??? WHY CANT P&C GET THE JUDGES NAME?????

Posted by griff895 on July 4, 2008 at 8:31 a.m. (Suggest removal)

lowcountrylover--

according to paragraph 4, the magistrate was Mary Holmes

Posted by suec on July 4, 2008 at 8:32 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Was it self defense? Did the others break into his house like he is saying?

Posted by hillbilly on July 4, 2008 at 8:33 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Her name was Magistrate Mary Holmes, didn't you read the story?

Posted by ForPnC on July 4, 2008 at 8:35 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I sure would like some more details on this one. If it was a break-in then good for him! If it was a setup then good for the cops. We're not getting the full story here.

Posted by PrinceOfTides on July 4, 2008 at 8:41 a.m. (Suggest removal)

If that is his mugshot, the assault must not have been too severe-certainly not warranting a death sentence.

Posted by RTC on July 4, 2008 at 8:52 a.m. (Suggest removal)

There is definitely more to this story.

Posted by coolfreaknbeans on July 4, 2008 at 8:53 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Another story lacking information.I agree we are not getting the full story here.If they were uninvited wouldnt the castle doctrine apply?Maybe the witnesses tell a different story.

Posted by Charleston_21 on July 4, 2008 at 8:59 a.m. (Suggest removal)

If people want the real story... then just ask his friends or read the comments that people are leaving on his facebook. Nobody broke into his house.

Posted by dreamer on July 4, 2008 at 9:02 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I agree with ForPnC, I think it would take a few more details to genuinely understand and make a comment conducive to a fair discussion. However, if he's charged with murder and it was a home-invasion, surely the charges will be dropped. I wonder if he knew the victims. It wouldn't be the first time a few teenagers and their friends were home alone and people they barely knew stopped by to party and things got out of hand. Then again, there are a lot of scenarios, I'm sure.
One thing is for certain, at 19, ONE charge is too many and "minor drug charges" don't exist at such a young age.

Posted by jeff61 on July 4, 2008 at 9:12 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Is Danny Partridge in trouble again?

Posted by Brant on July 4, 2008 at 9:31 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Would this have been as big a story if he'd had a gun? After all, Americans have their obsession with their guns....

Posted by armymom on July 4, 2008 at 9:45 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Maybe I'm wrong, but I believe that even if you've invited someone in your home, if they attack you, you can still defend yourself. We have no idea what really went on in this case at any rate. This article was short on pertinent information, as usual.

Posted by RW on July 4, 2008 at 10:29 a.m. (Suggest removal)

This guy needs to claim that he's homosexual and the attackers were gay-bashers! The ACLU is now in town! Other wise he is going up the road!

Posted by Thomas1776 on July 4, 2008 at 10:38 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Who is the Judge? Is it that pathetic flunky Roger Young?

Home invasion .... What do you expect to happen? To be offered cookies and milk to your invaders? You don't just walk in or break into someone's home. I about beat the crap out of some unknown 16 year old once trying to open my front door. I slipped out the back door and came up behind him with a baseball bat. He took off running when I told him to get the hell off my property, that he will go to prison for 30 years for burglary.

You just never know anymore with all the home invasion going on around the country.

Posted by Thomas1776 on July 4, 2008 at 10:41 a.m. (Suggest removal)

How many of Thomas Ravenel's wealthy drug friends have been arrested yet?

Posted by Mayor on July 4, 2008 at 10:46 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Thomas1776..what difference does it make to you?

Go to your family picnic and STFU.

Posted by suec on July 4, 2008 at 10:59 a.m. (Suggest removal)

PnC can only give the information that they are given by the police. The police with hold information until they determine what happened. Sometimes all of the facts are not released until a trial is held.

The police being able to investigate and get the truth takes priority over those of you sitting behind a computer demanding immediate facts so that you can feed your CSI fantasy.

Posted by Nutwell on July 4, 2008 at 11 a.m. (Suggest removal)

According to my teenagers who went to school and surfed regulary with Craig, it doesn't sound to them like he would "break in" to a house. He was a very likable young man who will be greatly missed in the surfing community. I hope for his family the truth will be found.

Posted by PrinceOfTides on July 4, 2008 at 12:17 p.m. (Suggest removal)

The Castle Doctrine guarantees your right to defend yourself against criminals anywhere you have a right to be. It does not grant you the right to kill anyone in your vicinity with whom you have a disagreement. The first test would be-was the victim engaging in CRIMINAL activity when retaliatory action occurred, and then, was deadly force used because one party believed thier life was in danger.

Posted by JimmySlade on July 4, 2008 at 12:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)

So heres what we have so far:

Charles Dobson says three people (two guys and a girl) broke into his house and assaulted him late wednesday night. In self defense he grabbed a large knife then repeatedly stabbed and killed one young man, severely injured another, then went after the young woman in the group.

Charles Dobson's brother and friend were in the house with him when the home invasion occured but neither felt the need to help Dobson defend himself against the three intruders leading Dobson to take matters into his own hands by stabbing the three victims in what he called "self defense".

Of the three intruders, one was a young girl. In self defense, against a young girl, your only option according to Dobson is to stab her repeatedly.

Heres what I think:

If my brother and I were sitting in our house with another friend, and three young people walked in threatening us, one of which was a girl, I think the last thing I would feel the need to do in defense is grab a knife and stab all three of them. I'd feel confident enough that my brother, my friend and I could defend ourselves against two young men and a female.

Why would you feel the need to grab a knife in the first place? Maybe because the young man you killed was dating your ex-girlfriend. Maybe you were jealous of that fact and when the three victims enterd your house, you were so doped up and drunk that in a fit of rage, you grabbed a knife and started stabbing.

Heres what you can do:

The only plea Dobson has at this point is self defense. He's obviously going to say and/or do anything to clear his name. Ive heard rumors that his mother was arrested several weeks ago and hauled out of the house in handcuffs (the neighbors told me).

If you or anyone you know can come out as a character witness for or aginst Charles Dobson, now is the time to do so. You need to let the District Attorney know what type of person this young man was. Was he a nice kid? Was he a druggie? Did he get into fights at school? Does he lie a lot? How was his family? His mom? What type of friends does he have, etc?

This case will hinge on the two witnesses (his brother and friend) in the house as well as the two victims testimony. Charles Dobson, with the help of his attorney may be able to beat the charges against him. Sadly the self defense plea could be legitimate sounding in the eyes of the jury which is the only place it really matters. Its up to the District Attorney to attack the credibility of Charles Dobson but like I said earlier, to do so theyre going to need character witnesses. Dont be afraid to get involved if you have any information that may be pertinant to this case. Both families involved deserve to know the whole truth and if Charles Dobson killed this young man in cold blood, he deserves to be punished accordingly.

Posted by hillbilly on July 4, 2008 at 12:47 p.m. (Suggest removal)

sounds like a family picnic is where Thomas 1776 met his wife.

Posted by camo on July 4, 2008 at 1:01 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Re: Charleston_21's comment about what is being posted on Facebook, enlighten the people that aren't on Facebook, what is being said there.

The police would be interested in this information don't you think?

I have to agree that there is more to this than being told.

Posted by SCPDBLUE on July 4, 2008 at 1:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)

If this scumbag killed someone,he should not get a bond. He is no different that anyother scumbag who kills someone. If it was self defense it will come out,the sheriffs office will make sure of that. Until then he should sit in jail.

Posted by Charleston_21 on July 4, 2008 at 1:58 p.m. (Suggest removal)

The comments I read on facebook were as followed:

To the Hill girl from one of Massey's friends: "I'm saying this for every person devastated by the pain you have endured in us by doing craig wrong. You should have never done the awful things that you did to him. When in the end they ultimately led to his death. I hope that for the rest of your life you feel sorrowful and responsible. Yes, he should have never gone over there, and he is ultimately responsible for his actions. Yet you should have never cheated on him and given him a reason to go over to the guys house in the first place. I know that this will haunt you for the rest of your life and I pray to God that it does. Sense you never felt bad about bringing him down or cheating on him before maybe now you'll actually gain a conscience as well as morals to better yourself in life. Let this be a wake up call to you to start getting your life on the right track and justify the wrong doings that you can still change! Straighten up and get what's left of your life together".

So apparently she was cheating on him with the guy that stabbed Massey. Granted they should not have gone over there to take care of business, it's just screwed up that Dobson had to kill Massey. I'm sorry but no girl (or guy) is worth that. With Dobson being locked up and doing what he did, does he truly think that he will be able to still keep the girl? So everyone lost in this situation. Some more than others.

It's really sad that Massey had to die like this over some girl. Nothing was gained out of this situation, sure Dobson may be able to claim self-defense but if the situation was that bad, wouldn't someone call the cops to escort Massey off his property... that is if you were able to think clearly?? There were other options of taking care of Massey, Barrow and Hills leaving the property besides killing him and injuring others..

Posted by MRSCVS on July 4, 2008 at 2:23 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Wow what a horrible article.

It is sad that someone loss their life over another person if that is the truth.

Murder is murder and he should be dealt with accordingly...

Posted by MRSCVS on July 4, 2008 at 3:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)

It is astonishing that there are so few comments on this article compare to others.

Posted by The_Mouth_of_the_South on July 4, 2008 at 3:32 p.m. (Suggest removal)

MRSCVS:
There aren't enough facts to form an opinion. We don't know if this truly was a home invasion, or if it was a simple gathering of friends that went horribly wrong. If there was a home invasion, then this young man should be freed. If it was a disagreement amoung friends and/or aquaintences, then he needs to be strapped to a table and have a needle inserted into his arm to end his life.
Either way, this article doesn't provide enough facts.

Posted by fametracker on July 4, 2008 at 3:37 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Does anyone care enough to think that perhaps this guy was sheltering the female? What counts as cheating anyways?

Teenagers don't want their gf/bf to even talk to another person of the opposite sex.

There shouldn't have been an unchaparoned party IF there was alcohol involved but the guy Craig should not have gone over there to "kick his butt" even if she was having sex with Charles. You can't own someone. That is why domestic violence is so high in this state.

As for minor drug/alcohol convictions, most teens brought up are overexposed to drugs/alcohol in the media. Some people never get caught, some people get caught every time.

I took sips wine at age 15 a couple times and champagne at weddings. I am friends with doctors/cops who smoke pot at some point but didn't get caught. It shouldn't have any impact on the case. Only violent convictions should be looked at and how he treated students/teachers in school.

The female may have taken cover at his house and he was defending her at the time.

Lets wait and see!

Posted by FollyGirl22 on July 4, 2008 at 4:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Just so y'all know, it was actually the younger brother, Chris, who stabbed my friends, and it was over a cheating girlfriend, not self-defense. It's amazing how little detective work the police actually do.

Posted by FollyGirl22 on July 4, 2008 at 4:29 p.m. (Suggest removal)

You want to know the story? Craig and Mary Whilden (or "Hills") had been dating for awhile. She continuously cheated on him. The Dobson's had actually hung out with Craig before. Craig went to get something out of Mary's car. Dobson started talking "smack" to Craig, who then returned the favor. Travis had his boy's back. Things got out of hand (as the always do), and everyone was just a little f*d up. Travis was stabbed in the spleen, kidneys, and lungs and his friend (whose name I'm not mentioning because it hasn't been brought up yet) had to literally hold the insides of his stomach as they rushed to the car, and keep them held in on the ride to the hospital. How this is a "obvious" self-defense case is beyond me, seeing as how neither Dobson nor his friends were injured, yet Craig, Travis, and Mary were. Plus, he stabbed each of them multiple times. AND Craig was found outside. How was he trying to break in? There were no signs of forceful entry, no signs of altercation BESIDES the stab wounds inflicted by Dobson. Anyone who knows Craig knows what a sweet and loving boy he is. He didn't deserve this. And the fact that they're going to try and pull that self-defense BULLSH!T pisses me off. And it wasn't even Charles who friggin stabbed them, it was Chris.

Posted by FollyGirl22 on July 4, 2008 at 4:30 p.m. (Suggest removal)

and dobson already has a simple assault charge on his record...look it up

Posted by UDIDIT on July 4, 2008 at 5:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)

01 SU83 2006 009985 | A 01 DOBSON, CHARLES 10 11 2006 96638DR

02 SU75 2008 000517 | A 01 DOBSON, CHARLES R 05 01 2008 728344

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05 SU83 2007 002764 | A 03 DOBSON, CHARLES RIC 03 18 2007 K221144

06 SU83 2007 002764 | A 04 DOBSON, CHARLES RIC 03 18 2007 27651DU

07 GS10 2008 004440 | A 01 DOBSON, CHARLES RIC 03 28 2008 K341001

08 OW10 2008 002021 | A 01 DOBSON, CHARLES RIC 03 28 2008 K341001

09 OW10 2008 004201 | A 01 DOBSON, CHARLES RIC 07 03 2008 K354028

10 OW10 2008 004201 | A 02 DOBSON, CHARLES RIC 07 03 2008 K354029

11 OW10 2008 004201 | A 03 DOBSON, CHARLES RIC 07 03 2008 K354030

12 SU83 2006 010659 | A 01 DOBSON, CHARLES RIC 10 28 2006 10195DC

13 SU83 2008 003295 | A 01 DOBSON, CHARLES RIC 03 27 2008 K341001

14 SU83 2008 007033 | A 01 DOBSON, CHARLES RIC 07 03 2008 K354028

15 SU83 2008 007033 | A 02 DOBSON, CHARLES RIC 07 03 2008 K354029

16 SU83 2008 007033 | A 03 DOBSON, CHARLES RIC 07 03 2008 K354030

Posted by JIgurl156 on July 4, 2008 at 5:37 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Mary Whilden is a ho fa sho! And Charlie is not a killer, it was probably Chris since he's lost his mind from the hard drug abuse.

Posted by ForPnC on July 4, 2008 at 5:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Posted by MRSCVS: "It is astonishing that there are so few comments on this article compare to others."

That's because it's a weekend and most of the normal posters are at home instead of work. After working hours and on weekends the number of posts drops drastically. Must be nice to have a job that lets you surf all day.

Posted by FollyGirl22 on July 4, 2008 at 6:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)

So let's look up records on the whole family...*wow* little brother Chris has at least 2 forgery charges, and a charge for aiding the distribution of crack-cocaine...Charlie has simple assault along with many drug charges....NOW let's look up Craig's record....what's that? Can't find anything? Squeaky Clean? Yea. And HE was the one breaking into this kid's house. Wow, that sounds absolutely plausible to me! I mean, especially with the Dobson's having no injuries!

Can you imagine being a 20 year old kid and dying at the end of a knife? He hadn't even gotten a chance to be legal yet, and he was left in some psycho kid's yard, slowly bleeding to death. Can you just imagine? It's not like a gun. With a knife, the person has to come up TO you. You know it's coming. You anticipate it. And it's never a quick death. And Dobson didn't even have the decency to kill him quickly. Nope. Just left him to die in his yard, with 2 large knife wounds in his chest. Can you even begin to imagine how painful that was? 20 years old, and seeing your life flash before your eyes, slowly dying in agony. And they're going to let this kid off with "self-defense" bs? Yuuuup, gotta love South Carolina's own personal brand of JUSTICE!!

Posted by FollyGirl22 on July 4, 2008 at 6:25 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Oh and I'm AT work right now, thank you very much...must be nice to have a job that gives you holidays off. Plus Craig and Travo were my friends, and this enrages me beyond belief.

Posted by ForPnC on July 4, 2008 at 6:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Folly - I took today off. I'm using my vacation time right now.

Posted by MRSCVS on July 4, 2008 at 6:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Posted by ForPnC: "That's because it's a weekend and most of the normal posters are at home instead of work. After working hours and on weekends the number of posts drops drastically. Must be nice to have a job that lets you surf all day".

I imagine it would be nice if that was the case, sorry to enlighten you, but I am at home waiting for the family Bar-be-cue to start.

Oh by the way my job gave me the day off also, a paid holiday that is....

Posted by ForPnC on July 4, 2008 at 7:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)

MRSCVS - I notice that you post on weekends! LOL!

Posted by drfrank on July 4, 2008 at 9:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)

may god grant peace to the Massey family this loss is beyond imagination.

Posted by RW on July 4, 2008 at 10:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Tripsa,

Another one of your great points!

Posted by lacroix11 on July 4, 2008 at 10:44 p.m. (Suggest removal)

www.charlestoncounty.org

Lists any court case anyone has had in past 10 years, both

civil and criminal. Plus lists tax records for all property.

There is vast wealth of information here, and more an more

counties in SC are bringing this type of data online. Pop in a name and you can find out where they live, what they

drive, if they have ever had problems with the police, how

much they pay in property taxes, former and present

marriages, etc. Mind you, this is only for charleston

county.

Posted by umakebrains on July 5, 2008 at 12:23 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I am baffled, how does one person stab three people? did the other two wait in line? In this age of technology there had to have been at least 5 cell phones. The other 5 could hav over powered this idiot after the first jab. This makes no sense to me. If you see someone getting stabbed wouldn't you run like hell!!

Posted by Charleston_21 on July 5, 2008 at 12:35 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Well another thing that is questionable is why is he taking all the heat for his younger brother? I could understand taking responsibility by covering up for his brother having drugs because you don't really get into too much trouble for it and it's not like it's really shun upon now-a-days but, for stabbing someone?? If his younger brother stabbed all three people, why is Charles Dobson taking all the blame??

Seems a little odd..

Posted by charlestonroots on July 5, 2008 at 1:42 a.m. (Suggest removal)

"Other details were not available Thursday. Massey's family did not want to comment."

How dare someone approach the Massey family for a comment on the death of their child. There is no easy way to lose a child, be it an accident or illness, but to lose them at another persons hand and such a senseless act. My heart goes out to the family.

Posted by angle on July 5, 2008 at 8:57 a.m. (Suggest removal)

What happened

Posted by smithberry on July 5, 2008 at 10:03 a.m. (Suggest removal)

First of all, having been an aquantiance of Dobson and his brother, I do know a little about their character. They both were very troubled teens, who could not last a whole semester at very leeniant private school.

Secondly, FAMETRACKER, if the female was being defended by Dobson, why does she have stab wounds and Dobson doesn't? Just make sure you analize things before you post.

Thirdly, FOLLYGIRL22, it is obvious that you are very emotionally attached to this situation. You clearly need to go to the police to be a character witness for those that you seem to know rather well. However, I think that for someone who is so emotionally involved, the fact that you ranted and raved about having to work on the Forth of July shows a lack of character. For somewho who is "devestated" you sure got off topic. Yes, you have every right to be upset that one of your friends was killed, but you need to make sure that what is important stays important and not your timecard.

Furthermore, I think that this horrible thing happened is completely tragic. I have and will continue to pray for the families that are involved. I also pray that justice will be served and that all the truths will eventually come out.

Also, just a thought: has anyone looked to see if any crimes have been posted for any of the people involved?

Posted by farfallaspeaks on July 5, 2008 at 10:32 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I'm speculating here, but it doesn't sound like self defense to me.

Posted by Charleston_21 on July 5, 2008 at 11:38 a.m. (Suggest removal)

It doesn't sound like self defense at all. Why weren't the Dobson's hurt or anyone else at their house besides Travis, Craig and that Hills girl? Secondly, why would he want to take all the heat for his brother... if Charles didn't do it? Thirdly, he had time to murder Travis, pratically guy Travis and cut Hills... why didn't anyone call 911 before he could damage all three people? Which sounds like as he was stabbing those three people, his brother and friends sat and watched??? Or as his brother stabbed them, Charles just watched? Nothing really adds up.

There are so many questions that it doesn't seem like the law has gotten into yet, hopefully at the trial and whatnot these questions are answered.

Posted by JIgurl156 on July 5, 2008 at 11:46 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I am close friends with Charlie and Chris. As well as close friends with Mary Whilden, Travis and Craig. Charlie and Chris are not violent boys, they are actually very kind and really entertaining to be around! Those boys are always getting into some sort of trouble, but they are not dangerous. I was shocked when I heard Charlie murdered my dear friend Craig. This wouldn't of happend if everyone haden't been f**cked up at the time, like they always are.

R.I.P Craig, you were such a sweet, loving person and didn't deserve to go like this.

Posted by JIgurl156 on July 5, 2008 at 11:49 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I believe Charlie and Chris were BOTH involved. Those boys always stuck together no matter what.

Posted by farfallaspeaks on July 5, 2008 at 11:49 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I get f&&cked up, and I never stabbed anybody.
JIgurl156, sounds like you don't blame "self defense" either.

Posted by JIgurl156 on July 5, 2008 at 11:56 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I know Craig went over to the Dobson's to beat Chris' a*s! Craig loved Mary Whilden sooo much and when they were dating she continously cheated on him. That night Craig and Travis followed MW over to the Dobson's. I mean what guy is going to let the girl he loves go and have sex with that junkie Chris? She is such a slut, she destroyed Craig's life and then it ended in his death.

Posted by smithberry on July 5, 2008 at 12:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)

JIGURL156, I'm glad that you are friends with all of them, yet you said that they were sweet boys that were fun to be around. However, just because you are "f*d" up doesn't cause you to blatently stab three people. Yes, what happened is a tragedy that could have been avoided completely, however, putting all the blame on one of the victims (i.e. Hills) whether what they were doing was moral or not, does not solve anything. The problem is Dobson stabbed three people.

Get your story straight about the two Dobson boys because you paint them as delightful people. Have you seen their criminal records? I personally don't think that people with multiple drug convictions count as delightful people. They sound like people who are troubled and need help.

Posted by Charleston_21 on July 5, 2008 at 12:37 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I think wehre JIgurl156 is coming from the point where not everyone who does drugs are necessarily bad people. I know first hand of some people who do drugs, but they're not bad people. Granted they don't have charges against them and aren't heavily into drugs... there is a difference between doing drugs and still maintaining a life and just constantly doing drugs and losing your mind like Charles Dobson did. Like I said... I still don't know why he would take all the heat if his brother is involved, it just doesn't make any sense. This whole ordeal just doesn't make any sense but, he does owe the family some kind of closure as to why he did it, TRUTHFULLY- if he is even able to function without being able to get access to drugs.

Hopefully this can also open some eyes to the "tough guys" out there. If your girlfriend is creeping around Charleston, get rid of her to avoid possible scenarios like this. She obviously isn't worth risking your life over if she can't stay with you 100%. Same thing for girls too. No one is worth losing your life over.

I am not taking up for Hills because this is obviously where the whole thing has started... but she has to live with the fact that if she did things differently, Criag would still be alive. She has to live with the fact that her actions has caused all of this.

Posted by smithberry on July 5, 2008 at 1:19 p.m. (Suggest removal)

CHARLESTON_21, while I understand what you are saying about who do use drugs are not bad people, they STILL are committing a crime. Case closed. No, it doesn't make them bad people. Just because Hills may have been cheating on her boyfriend, that doesn't mean she's a bad person... she just made a mistake, as does every other human being on this earth (and everyone must deal with the consequences of their actions). Granted, MANY things could have been done differently all the way around... everybody in this situation has some blame (even Massey). Yet, it is still hard to make opinions because we, the public, do not know everything that happened. There are still many things left unanswered.

Posted by coolfreaknbeans on July 5, 2008 at 4:38 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I don't understand how 1 guy raced around stabbing everyone in site and no one called 911.How in the he11 did he manage to stab all 3?Just because a teenaged GIRL cheats doesn't mean it's her fault someone died.To my knowledge she didn't pick up the knife,nor did she go over there intending on kicking a guys butt.This is a terrible tragedy.Mistakes were made by all.Why on Earth would you go to some crazy,drug addicted guys house to try to kick his butt?My Dad always taught me not to write a check my a s s couldnt cash.Now it has ended in tragedy.How sad.

Posted by lacroix11 on July 5, 2008 at 7:32 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Amazing to see no one has yet even mentioned what types of drugs may have been involved in this.

Posted by Charleston_21 on July 5, 2008 at 7:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I agree with you smithberry but it seems like it doesn't matter what criminal act you do these days, you can plea almost anything and get off with a slap on the wrist. He's going to plea that someone was trying to break in and self defense... and he'll probably get a couple years in jail. Yet.. there is now a family without a son that isn't coming back. One family has a son that is in the hospital and will be pretty bad off the rest of his life knowing he survived and Massey didn't... he watched his friend die. And Hills has to live with the fact that it's pretty much her fault.

Barrow and Hills have to suffer the rest of their lives watching Massey die.. while Dobson will be out in no time and able to do whatever he pleases with his life. I am praying that the judge doesn't let this guy off, no matter what he pleas. Hell, he might as well claim insanity considering he and his party weren't hurt.. it honestly looks like he just went after these guys.

If it was out of selfdefense.. why did he have to KILL them?? I hope he answers some questions when his trial comes about.. like, why did he do it? who actually did it, was it him or his brother? what actually happened that night?

Maybe he can tell the truth to the families because they are owed at least THAT much. Maybe he can do it without being strung out on drugs.

Posted by Mayor on July 5, 2008 at 8:53 p.m. (Suggest removal)

So tragic. This is incomprehensible. Over what?

How about some structure, instead of insanity? OK not.

Our local news really tops it all. Check out major cities, we make them look like Mayberry.

The posts by friends of the children are really chilling but true. Wow!

Posted by JIgurl156 on July 5, 2008 at 10:19 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I know for a fact that Charlie did not kill Craig or harm the others. It was little brother Chris. The wrong person is in jail and it is simply not fair to him or the Massey family. S**tty Charleston police work...

Posted by Charleston_21 on July 6, 2008 at 1:22 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Well then he should have time to redeem himself in court and his brother needs to come forth.

Posted by coolfreaknbeans on July 6, 2008 at 8:14 a.m. (Suggest removal)

JIgurl156-If you "know for a fact" these things-you need to go to the police immediately and stop with holding evidence in a murder investigation.

Posted by Charleston_21 on July 6, 2008 at 11:01 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Holding evidence can have you arrested for being an accessory to murder.

Posted by AutumnFralix on July 7, 2008 at 9:15 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Honestly with this whole situation it is a shock. I have been in school with these boys since i can remember. Craig was the sweetest person and always did what he could to help. I think that girl is a total skank and honestly I hope she is haunted by this entire situation because it seems as if she couldn't keep her legs closed and that what caused this whole situation. I just don't understand why Craig had to go though. He should have known better that in today's world you can't step up to someone toe to toe, fist to fist cause 9 times out of 10 someone is gonna pull a gun or a knife. Cause this world this day in age is f*ck*n outrageous. You can't trust nobody.
Craig, i love you man. I miss you like crazy. Justice will be served though because this is not a self defense case. 3 guys on 2 guys and a girl..and he had to be the p*ssy and pull a knife on ya'll? Please, he deserves what he gets and if i had a say in it, i would fry his ass without a wet sponge.. because that right there is called being a f*cken coward!! REST IN PEACE playa. We'll hit you up when it our time.

Posted by villekid on July 7, 2008 at 12:32 p.m. (Suggest removal)

i know these kids charlie and chris they smoke crack and are complete f ups its to bad they had to do something like this that effects the whole community rip craig

Posted by Charleston_21 on July 7, 2008 at 1:54 p.m. (Suggest removal)

As everyone has been saying since this whoel thing has started, hopefully he will at least give the families some closure as to what happened that night.

Posted by AutumnFralix on July 8, 2008 at 9:30 a.m. (Suggest removal)

He isn't gonna give closure, he is claiming self defense. And from what i gathered along with many other people, Charles is not the one that stabbed and killed Craig nor is he the one that stabbed Travis. It was the younger brother chris that did the dirty work and Charles is taking the heat for him. Due to his previous record of assault and everything. Charles only has minor convictions and i guess think people are stupid and he thinks he is gonna get a Self Defense plea. Oh please, Self Defense rarely wins in this state. It is statistically proven that self defense is less likely than that of insanity.
i'll tell ya tho... Craig didn't deserve this. Neither did Travis! This whole thing better end in a conviction of murder where he rots in the f*ckin pin.
Mary, you really did it this time kid. You totally f*cked Craigs life over, and that is what took his life. You are the reason and whats so sh!tty is I know Craig is so much Smarter than that. Fightin over a girl..please. If you could keep your legs closed then none of this would have happened. Or even told Craig that you didn't want to be with him cause you were sleeping around with these junkies, really shows what type of person you really are. One that noone wants to be around, know or anything. I really hope you are HAUNTED and REGRET everything you did and that you have to live with the hurt and the guilt for the rest of your life.

Posted by Charleston_21 on July 8, 2008 at 9:49 a.m. (Suggest removal)

It would be interesting to see the trial.. if anyone is going to mention the little brother or not.

Posted by sbs920 on July 8, 2008 at 10:16 a.m. (Suggest removal)

This whole situation sounds like a very bad episode of "Cheaters" without out Joey and his camera crew.
Whatta Shame. . .

Posted by mcb on July 10, 2008 at 1:42 a.m. (Suggest removal)

That anyone could use this as an opportunity to insult or blame Mary Whilden is sick. Our culture is so obsessed with blame, rather than owning up to one's actions. Mary Whilden is not the criminal here. She should not be demeaned for her dating habits. She is a teenage girl, not unlike many. These people who pass judgment must be without flaw. Beautiful and smart girls are not responsible for the actions of the guys that desire them and then behave violently. Women all over the world blame themselves when men behave badly. That is ridiculous. Leave her alone.

Posted by JIgurl156 on July 10, 2008 at 7:08 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Mary is still a junkie ho. She has f**cked more guys then you can imagine. She needs a STD check ASAP.

Posted by Citadel2005 on July 10, 2008 at 9:06 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Craig was my little cousin. We all miss him dearly. You can't go back in time and change the fact that he is in a better place. My entire family was on vacation at Folly Beach this past week, which saved all of us from grieving alone. We saw little Craig for the last time on Wednesday evening before all of this happened. Thank you all for your sentiments and regrets.

The truth will come out and most of us already know what happened. Please let the detectives do their jobs before posting false statements on here. Hearsay is not the truth. It will all come out in the end.

Posted by Charleston_21 on July 10, 2008 at 2:58 p.m. (Suggest removal)

No one is saying that Mary is the "criminal" here because she isn't the one who was charged with murder that night... but she did make some pretty bad actions and every action has a consequence, but it pretty much is the main REASONING for it happening. If she would not have been sleeping around, then none of this would have happened. Granted its not ALL of her fault and you can't get charged for killing, she caused Dobson to act the way he did KNOWING he was a druggie and would probably be drugged up that night.. without having any control over his attitude which caused the whole stabbing spree.

Posted by Opine_31 on July 10, 2008 at 3:34 p.m. (Suggest removal)

To mcb...why shoudn't she be "demeaned" for her dating habits if they were in fact hurting people? The problem with our culture is that we don't put the blame on people enough...heaven forbid we be "judgemental." Beautiful and smart girls most certainly can be held accountable (although not legally) for the actions of young men if they contribute fuel to the fire which is what it sounds like she did without any hesitation.

Posted by villekid on July 11, 2008 at 5:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)

for real girls are nothin but hoes n tricks hit em n forgetem

Posted by Debbie352 on July 11, 2008 at 5:45 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Charlie Dobson lived in our neighborhood and didn't know how to have fun unless it was doing something evil or destructive, this comes as no surprise to anyone. It's just too bad someone had to die.

Posted by Debbie352 on July 11, 2008 at 6:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Whether or not Charlie gets away with murder simply has to do with how much money his parents, Richard and Ann Dobson, are willing to pay to get him out of it. This is basically why he and his brother Chris are who they are today. There have never been any consequenses for anything they did. Both these boys are genetically mutant evil characters who should both go to jail before someone else gets hurt. Looks like they are planning something between self defense and alluding to both of them having done it so the jury can't be sure and has to end in a mistrial. No one in Virginia will miss this bunch!

Posted by Charleston_21 on July 18, 2008 at 8:46 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Who cares how much money who has???

If he killed someone, then suffer the consequences! Why is that so hard these days?!

Posted by JIgurl156 on July 19, 2008 at 6:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Charlie was in jail for only 4 days... how pathetic.

Posted by Charleston_21 on July 21, 2008 at 12:52 p.m. (Suggest removal)

This is the outcome of his trial posted on Charleston County Records:
CONDITIONS AND RESTRICTIONS: DEFENDANT WILL RESIDE WITH SISTER, KIMBERLY DOBSON HUCKADAY AT 8324 CIRCLE DRIVE, HAYES, VA 23072, AND TRAVEL DIRECTLY THERE W/IN 48 HOURS OF HIS RELEASE FROM THE CHAS. COUNTY DET. CTR.; HE SHALL BE IN CUSTODY OF ONE OR BOTH PARENTS AT ALL TIMES FOLLOWING HIS RELEASE FROM CHAS. COUNTY DET. CTR. AND UNTIL HE ARRIVES AT HIS SISTER'S RESIDENCE AT WHICH TIME
HE WILL IMMEDIATELY NOTIFY HIS ATTORNEY; HE SHALL REFRAIN FROM ANY AND ALL CONTACT W/ANY OF THE ALLEGED VICTIMS AND/OR FAMILY MEMBERS,INCL THROUGH THIRD PARTIES, AND REMAIN AT LEAST 100 YARDS AWAY AT ALL TIMES; HE SHOULD RECEIVE PERMISSION FROM COURT TO RETURN TO STATE OF SC, AND SHALL BE EQUIPPED W/ELECTRONIC MONITOR UNIT (NOT REQUIRED IN VA); HE WILL PERSONALLY APPEAR BEFORE THE
DESIGNATED COURT AT THE PLACE,DATE, AND TIME REQUIRED TO ANSWER CHARGES; AND BE IN GOOD BEHAVIOR; SEE ORDER.

...so basically he got off of murder and gets to live in another state while one guy is dead and another was sent to the hospital and had major surgery. Great punishment... he gets to move and when/if he comes back here, he gets to stay a whopping 100 feet from any of the victims of this incident.

How are people supposed to learn their lesson if they don't actually get punished for anything?! And then people wonder why our teenagers are getting into so much stuff these days... no one wants to really punish them for anything!

Posted by JIgurl156 on July 21, 2008 at 1:02 p.m. (Suggest removal)

His stupid rich mommy & daddy bailed him out yet AGAIN!

Posted by Charleston_21 on July 21, 2008 at 1:13 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Well at least no one can take away the fact that he murdered Massey and about killed Travis... that's going to stay with him the rest of his life; he has to sleep with that every night and wake up to a new day of knowing he did all this.

It'll haunt him forever.

Posted by villekid on July 24, 2008 at 11:13 p.m. (Suggest removal)

fu*ck that bullshi*t if he didnt have money and or was black he would be in jail for life

Posted by Charleston_21 on July 28, 2008 at 12:35 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Very sad but very true... hopefully someone will do something these days.

Personally I don't think that he didn't "get out" completly. He might not be spending as much time in jail as people would like, BUT he has to live with the fact that he murdered someone. His sentencing may be taken away BUT no one can take that away.

But, karma does come back around!