Assistant principal jumped from bridge, authorities say
By Nita Birmingham
Kathryn Dozier
The assistant principal of a Mount Pleasant middle school died Tuesday morning after authorities said she jumped 200 feet off the Arthur Ravenel Jr. bridge.
Kathryn Dozier, 31, of Charleston, was pronounced dead at Medical University Hospital shortly after a witness saw her jump from the top of the bridge just after midnight Monday, Charleston County Deputy Coroner Bobbi Jo O'Neal said.
Dozier was on medical leave from Thomas C. Cario Middle School in Mount Pleasant and had previously taught at Alston Middle School in Summerville.
Maurice Milligan, 45, of Mount Pleasant, witnessed the incident. Milligan and his fiancee were trying to make it home by midnight and said there was little traffic on the bridge. They saw a car in the far right lane with its emergency flashers on as they approached the top of the bridge.
"I glanced over at the jogging area, and I saw someone just release and let go," Milligan said.
He told his fiancee, Donna Campbell, he'd just seen someone jump off the bridge and called 911. Campbell said that was at 12:03 a.m. Tuesday.
Witnesses on the sailing vessel Buena Vida reported a body in the water at 12:13 a.m., said Lee Bower, search and rescue coordinator. A Coast Guard boat located Dozier two minutes later and took her to Remleys Point Boat Landing in Mount Pleasant, where an ambulance was waiting.
Milligan and Campbell found it difficult to forget what had happened.
"We talked about it all night long. We didn't sleep. I was so sorry," Campbell said.
Dozier graduated with a 4.0 grade point average from Clemson University and was a state student teacher of the year, Alston Middle School principal Sam Clark said.
Dozier was a math teacher at Alston for six years, Clark said. He and Charleston County School District Superintendent Nancy McGinley described Dozier as a tremendous advocate for children.
"She was a gifted educator. All of our staff that worked with her are just sick," Clark said.
He said he had hoped that Dozier would stay with the school district, but she left in the summer of 2006 for the position in Mount Pleasant.
McGinley said Dozier had been on medical leave since November and was waiting for her doctor to release her so she could return to work. McGinley said she could not comment on the nature of the medical leave.
The faculty had a great deal of respect for Dozier, McGinley said.
"Everybody is very much in shock over this," she said.
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dave3719 (anonymous) says...
Alot of suicides this time of year. Very sad. Now Im curious as to why she was on medical leave?
January 2, 2008 at 12:59 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
freedomofspeech (anonymous) says...
This is a tragedy. When the person's name was first release, I had to tell my children because they attend Cario and I wanted to be the one to tell them. It's hard to tell children someone they new and trust ended their life. My thoughts and prayers go out to this family.
January 2, 2008 at 1:15 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
burton (anonymous) says...
I have dealt with a few suicides and I just don't understand it; especially, when they are so young. To me, suicide is the easy way out. A final solution to a temporary problem.
I have a saying that I live by: "no matter how bad I think things may be, there is someone else that wishes they were in my shoes." Sad!
January 2, 2008 at 1:28 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Clemson1979 (anonymous) says...
How sad. My High School Chemistry teacher jumped a few years ago.
January 2, 2008 at 7:38 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
SCgal (anonymous) says...
Our thoughts and prayers are with her family~
January 2, 2008 at 8:09 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
RTC (anonymous) says...
The pain these people leave behind for their families and friends is unbearable. I will never understand how someone can end their own life, when there are so many that want to live and don't have the choice.
I have always told my children that there is never anything so bad to make them take their own lives.
I feel really sad for these tormented souls that feel that this is the only way to solve their problems. May they rest in peace, as those that they leave behind will never know that feeling again.
January 2, 2008 at 8:15 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
AG (anonymous) says...
Suicide is a horrible thing for everyone involved (the person who was suffering, the family). No one knows what the person was thinking or feeling, or even what led up to the act itself so it is useless to speculate what happened. No one needs to know what led her to it. No one needs to know why she was on medical leave. No one who didn't know her doesn't need to know anything. The bottom line is that life full of promise is gone and that is the tragedy in it all.
January 2, 2008 at 8:28 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
follydude (anonymous) says...
we, as a society, need to get over the "i don't get it" phase of understanding suicide and be a part of "i can do something about it".
in the US there are twice as many suicides per year as homocides, yet all we focus on seems to be the randomness and the intangibility of the street murder and seemingly forget and wash away the notion of suicide as a coward's way out.
maybe a top to bottom way of looking at healthcare is a good way to start.
January 2, 2008 at 8:52 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Hey_U_Guys (anonymous) says...
I just don't understand how someone can take their own life, or anyone else's for that matter.
January 2, 2008 at 9:11 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
SCgal (anonymous) says...
She was young, beautiful, well-respected, adored by many- no one may never know why, but her spirit and soul must have been terribly hurt so deeply she felt this was the only way to end her hurt- how very sad-
May she rest in peace~
January 2, 2008 at 9:29 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
ThePhink (anonymous) says...
A permanent solution to a temporary problem
January 2, 2008 at 9:37 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
woodrob12 (anonymous) says...
2nd jumper in a month. the state needs to take another look at the height/design of the barricade on the bridge. however, the mt. p to charleston side doesn't even have a barricade....
January 2, 2008 at 9:38 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Cid95 (anonymous) says...
Sad case, like most suicides. Who knows what was going on inside her head.
Changing the bridge won't do anything though. There are other bridges and dozens of other easy ways to kill yourself.
January 2, 2008 at 9:55 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
charlene68 (anonymous) says...
I would love to know what goes throught these peoples minds when things like this go on... I'm sorry for her family and my thoughts and prayers are with them.
January 2, 2008 at 10:10 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
My_50Cents_Worth (anonymous) says...
Sad, sad story and a horrible way to begin the New Year. My sincerest condolences to the family, friends, colleagues and students of the deceased.
January 2, 2008 at 10:16 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Radar24 (anonymous) says...
I agree, changing the bridge, any bridge is useless. If someone wants to end their life, we cannot create enough "high fences" to stop them. Suicides are a sad fact of life, and with everyone so consumed with themselves, they often forget to check on their neighbors, friends, and loved ones. Maybe today we should remind the people in our lives what they mean to us, you never know, they may be having a bad day and your kind words may mean the difference. It is very sad, a young woman respected by co-workers and her students. My deepest regrets go out to her family and all the people affected by her loss, including those who had to witness the incident.
January 2, 2008 at 10:17 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Radar24 (anonymous) says...
Lest we also not forget the emergency personnel who responded to the incident. While most people were out enjoying the evening the Coast Guard were on duty and on scene in a matter of minutes, along with police and rescue.
January 2, 2008 at 10:24 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
waterbug (anonymous) says...
AG i hope Dave3719 reads your comment!!!! I feel the same way as you do.
January 2, 2008 at 10:56 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
cmarkland (anonymous) says...
Folly Dude's preceeding comment SHOWS the important thing we are not addressing- Depression in its 101 different ways needs to be recognised and HELPED-
We need to help EACH OTHER,friends,co-workers, family all of us need to encourage folk we see 'not coping' to ask for HELP!
I wish and hope the P.C. would follow up on this tragic story, how about an EDITORIAL,plus the local TV stations
making us all more aware of what we can do?
January 2, 2008 at 11:01 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Kerry (anonymous) says...
Why would a beautiful girl do this?
Probably had a doctor or therapist mis-presribing medication in support of the "take these pills and you will feel better" policy nearly all of these so called trusted health professionals promote today.
Sad loss for everyone. Prayers for the family.
January 2, 2008 at 11:14 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Radar24 (anonymous) says...
Wait! Everyone seems to care because it was a beautiful, smart, engaging woman who did this, Woodrob pointed out this is the second person to do this in a month. The first only made the news because police needed help to identify her. Anyone in media will tell you that they don't do stories on this because no one wants a "downer" or to give others ideas. How many have done this since the bridge opened, I bet it is more than these two. Find the positive in the negative, don't hide or avoid the problem. This situation is at least creating a conversation about the problem. Use it to show how it effects people, like I said, not only the family, but the innocent victims to include the witnesses and emergency personnel. I feel bad for the people who watched her do it and the people on their sailboat who spent the first moments of their new year finding her. She chose her fate, they didn't and will have to live with what they saw.
January 2, 2008 at 11:25 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
AG (anonymous) says...
Kerry--please do not assume that the health profession somehow had a part in this tragedy. To do that is unfair. We do not know what she was going through, but what we do know is that she chose to end her life. That is it. I reiterate my previous comment: It is none of our business why SHE did it. We didn't know her. Only those her knew her need to know. I agree with Folly Dude and Radar24...we, as a society, need to promote awareness and to begin the conversation as to what society needs to do to help people in such a crisis.
January 2, 2008 at 11:42 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
CMLMADDOG (anonymous) says...
AG,
In order to help these people, we NEED to know why they did it!
January 2, 2008 at 12:04 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
shsgirl (anonymous) says...
i was actually kind of mad when i read the article this morning because the real witnesses of her suicide were me, my sister, and our friend. we were on the bridge about 15 ft from where Dozier jumped off. we had just started celebrating the new year when we saw Doziers car pull to the side and put her hazards on then in a matter of 10 seconds Dozier ran out of her car, to the railing and jumped off right before our eyes before we could even stop to yell. My friend was the one who call 911. i still can't sleep at night because i keep seeing it happen, and it turns out that Dozier used to be my friends teacher. it was a horrible thing that i will never forget
January 2, 2008 at 12:07 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
JohnS (anonymous) says...
I wonder why she was on medical leave and if she was on some medication? I agree another writer is correct some pills Doctors prescribe increase thoughts of suicide.
January 2, 2008 at 12:37 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
walleyedwoman1215 (anonymous) says...
Sometimes we tend to assume beautiful people have beautiful lives, or at least we expect them to have beautiful lives. This lovely young lady was obviously slogging through hell, and death was preferable to one more minute of pain.
My prayers, tears and sympathy are extended to all who loved her.
January 2, 2008 at 12:56 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Chief_SittingBull (anonymous) says...
What a sad end to such a young and obviously productive life...
January 2, 2008 at 1:07 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
AG (anonymous) says...
Yes, you are correct, society needs to know what leads people to think suicide is the answer, and then promote ways to help. A list of possible reasons can be found on the internet, in medical journals, etc. and we as a society can use those reasons to promote awareness and where to get help.
Peace to everyone.
January 2, 2008 at 1:10 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
RedSky (anonymous) says...
This makes my daughter and I so sad. Ms Dozier was the best teacher my daughter has had. She taught her math class in a comprehensive way that inspired kids to want to understand. She also spoke against suicide to my daughter's class. She used a personal story of someone she knew who chose to end their life; and how horrible it is for the survivors and the one who is now gone. She was a beautiful and valuable member of society that will be sorely missed. I just hope and pray that her previous students understand that suicide is still never an option! Always seek help if you feel suicidal, no matter what the circumstances! Ms.Dozier is a perfect example of how fragile human life can be. If only she had reached out for help.... This just doesn't make sense!
January 2, 2008 at 1:17 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
MCgurl (anonymous) says...
Have we forgotten the most important thing on suicides?! I am a compassionate person who believes in helping their fellow man, but come on. The truth is that suicide is the most selfish way out. People don't realize that many people will suffer from the suicidal decision - that person is out of their pain, yes, but the rest of us are left to hurt for eternity. Not to mention a family, school and perhaps pets who counted on her. Don't the survivors mean anything to the suicidal person? Or do they just not see that anyone besides themselves experience hurt?!
January 2, 2008 at 1:20 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
MCgurl (anonymous) says...
Dang - RedSky beat me to it - that makes it even worse as she was against suicide!
January 2, 2008 at 1:23 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
elainerobisonwieters (anonymous) says...
This is certainly a tragedy. The real tragedy is that the people closest to her did not realize that she was at or past the point of no return. I am sure they are all doing the "what if's" and "if only's" that every family does in this situation. My heart goes out to them all. I will say that in todays world we are all so busy with our own problems we have little time to be there for others. We need to make time, ask questions, listen to the little voices that tell us something is not right with the people we care about. Don't be afraid to butt in if we think some needs help even if they tell us to leave them alone. Be familiar with the warning signs. We may be their last hope. Their Angel.
January 2, 2008 at 1:28 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
SCgal (anonymous) says...
Until anyone knows what took her down this path, we should not judge her actions~ it may not have been one thing in particular, but a series of events~ especially reading above how she had discussed suicide with her students in the past~ what turn of event(s) changed her values and morals so much~
January 2, 2008 at 1:29 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
afbeach_bum (anonymous) says...
I go to cario middle school and knew Ms. Dozier pretty well. She was always nice to me and whenever i would pass her in the hall she would say hi ms. alyssa. Yesterday my friend told me what had happened and i didnt believe her. I couldn't understand how or why she would do something like jump off the bridge and i just ignored this whole thing. This morning i was laying in bed and heard my mom on the phone downstairs saying she couoldnt believe it and i started crying. I went downstairs and my mom looked at me and said, its true. I read the article in the paper and was dumb founded. I couldnt believe.
I am praying for her and her family. R.I.P.
January 2, 2008 at 1:30 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
noname (anonymous) says...
Well said RTC:
Sincere condolences to the many lives that has been affected by this tragedy.
January 2, 2008 at 1:48 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
RedSky (anonymous) says...
this is redsky's daughter.
she was an amazing teacher.
actually the best i had ever had.
she was also a great example for other teachers and students.
she was also named teacher of the year.
i just don't understand.....
January 2, 2008 at 1:57 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
AG (anonymous) says...
I knew Kathryn socially and I know several members of her family, and she had a strong support network. Please do not make judgments about what kind of support she had. Unless you knew her, please don't assume that someone must have done something to her or that those close to her knew nothing about what was going on in her life. SCgal said it best.
"Until anyone knows what took her down this path, we should not judge her actions~ it may not have been one thing in particular, but a series of events~..."
January 2, 2008 at 2:06 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
scgirl12 (anonymous) says...
Kathryn was beautiful in every since of the word. She was kind, thoughtful and caring. One of the most selfless people I have ever known. As a friend of hers it is very hurtful to read comments judging her. No one may understand why she chose to end her life, but she had many close friends and family and a wondeful support network that cared for her dearly. All that knew her feel in love with her vibrant personality and cheerful demeanor. She will be remebered and loved always by those that knew her well. It makes this horrible tradegy and loss of a friend even more difficult to read such distasteful comments. Let her rest in peace.
January 2, 2008 at 2:19 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
dixie (anonymous) says...
so is shsgirl upset because they were not recognized in this article? To me her post sounds extremely selfish. Why would anyone want recognition for witnessing such a horrific tragedy? It is not time for witnesses to be in the lime light. If they are upset b/c they witnessed it then they should seek help and not fame.
January 2, 2008 at 2:33 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
disco (anonymous) says...
No one has mentioned anything about a suicide note or if it was truly her intention of killing herself. I know it sounds ridiculous, but I've heard of people who have been drugged do dangerous stunts such as jumping off bridges. Maybe I'm looking way too deep into this, but you never know. Whatever the reason, I feel for her family and friends.
January 2, 2008 at 2:37 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
ms_dosier_rox (anonymous) says...
i've been crying for 2 hours. not only she was the best princabal, but she was the most joyful person i knew and i was very close to her. i just hope it isnt my fault because we have a lawsuit against the school for sexual harassment. please dont let her have commited suecide for that. i didnt know she would be that depressed. she was an awesome princibal. she would just go down the hall and give candy to random children. and to the people who wrote tasteless comments to her you are pathetic and such a nasty person that you get tired of looking in the mirror and seeing a loser so you just take it out on people you dont know for personal gain. you dont know how much impact this puts on all the students of cario including me. let her rest peacefully. love serena
January 2, 2008 at 2:39 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
elainerobisonwieters (anonymous) says...
If she had such a strong support network what went wrong? I say again, we need to be familiar with the warning signs and be relentless in helping the people we care about.
January 2, 2008 at 2:46 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
SCgal (anonymous) says...
Please clarify, are you telling us Ms. Dozier was involved in the sexual harrassment- this is very difficult to believe or was she just involved as an adminstrator handling the issue from that point?
January 2, 2008 at 2:56 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
RedSky (anonymous) says...
i loved mrs.dozier.
she was a beautiful
person inside and out.
she will be remembered.
January 2, 2008 at 2:56 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
shsgirl (anonymous) says...
Dixie- I am not upset that I wasn't mentioned in the article and Im sorry if I came across that way. This whole incident has really put me out of whack and I keep blaming myself. I really am sorry if I offended you or anyone else and I promise I don't want fame. I actually wanted to take back my previous comment because it was written in hast and not really thought over. I really am sorry and I am praying for Ms. Dozier's family and friends.
January 2, 2008 at 3:02 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
cbasketball_num23 (anonymous) says...
Hey everyone. Well I am a student at Cario Middle School and I am just shocked to hear about Ms. Dozier, our assisstent principal. As soon as I heard about the news yesterday, January 2nd, I just could not believe it. Actually, I did not believe it. My friend told me about it and I thought it was a rumor. Today my mom called me and told me it was true. It still cannot go through my mind that I will never see Ms. Dozier again. She was so nice to everyone at the school. I heard from many of my friends that she was the nicest staff member in our school. When we used to get in trouble at school, that is who we were sent to and she was a very calm person. When we would walk down the hallways she would always greet us with a smile and say something nice. She was a very nice comfort to all the children in the school. I still have no clue why such a beautiful person would do something so horrible to hurt themselves in such a way that it would impact the many people that knew her. I know tomorrow when I go back to school it will be a very sad day. No one can judge this woman unless you knew her and you can't say anything about her unless you are certain of your words.
RIP Ms. Dozier, I know I will see you one day in heaven.
January 2, 2008 at 3:19 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
gamecockcougar (anonymous) says...
Suicide is not a "selfish way out". Suicide is often associated with depression. Unless you have experienced depression or have known someone with depression, I don't think it is fair to draw conclusions.
Someone who has the best support group in the world, may still commit suicide. For many suicide victims, treatment and/or support does not help. The constant everyday psychological pain of depression drives many victims of depression to do things out of character. I'm not sure what happened, but I wish people would not judge. My prayers are with her family.
Suicide Survivor
January 2, 2008 at 3:21 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
pelicanwoman (anonymous) says...
Such a shame- seems like she had lots of things going for her- a great academic record, an important position at such a young age, and an influential one at that. I am sorry for her family, friends, neighbors, students, co-workers, and eveyone who will miss her.
Just goes to show, we can look right at a person and never see the pain they are in.
So many Americans are obsessed over Britney or her sister, etc, and ad naseum, that we don't have anything left over for those nearest to us- the ones we should really be paying close attention to. Is it just easier to care and have compassion for famous people we will never meet than someone we know? Is it easier because we aren't really "involved" if Brad and Angelina adopt another kid- we can turn if off when we want? The whole situation makes me sad.
January 2, 2008 at 3:27 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Love_miss_dozier_alot (anonymous) says...
Hey everyone. I'm camille and i am a student at cario. When my friend,regan, called me last night i was exited b/c we always have laughs together but it was a sad conversation. I found out mrs.dozier jumped off the bridge. I did not belive it untill she read right out of the news paper. I broke down in tears. I loved mrs dozier, she was so funny and kind and was a fantastic person. i new she was out and in the hospital for a long time, but didnt know it would lead to this. I loved to talk to her and visit her office during "dear" time in class. she was one of the best People i got to meet! I'll miss her when i walk by her office and won't see her in the morning when i get off the bus or pass in the halls or outside coming or leaving lunch.
I love u miss dozier and always will....I'll always think of u in the 6 grade hallway and by the door to your office your a great, funny,gourgous, kind, smart person and i love u!
R.I.P
LOVE,
CAMILLE
January 2, 2008 at 3:33 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
amb2005 (anonymous) says...
My family is close friends and church family members with Ms. Dozier's family-in-law. We attended her wedding a few years ago. This is a very sad story to tell on the beginning of this new year. Thoughts and prayers go out to the families and friends.(Bulldog1- she was not mistreated by her husband.) I hope this will be a lesson to all the children she taught and the lives she impacted.
January 2, 2008 at 3:33 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
JRob (anonymous) says...
Gamecockcougar says it well. Some people are sick and family/friends do not know. I doubt anyone posting here knows why this happened, so we should probably not speculate.
January 2, 2008 at 3:35 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
nochasgirl (anonymous) says...
I hope that the Cario administration and staff are prepared to help the students cope with this tragedy when they return to school tomorrow.
January 2, 2008 at 3:46 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
RTC (anonymous) says...
Please understand that I have no intention to be mean. I have seen several posts from Cario students.
The P&C policy specifically states that you are declaring to be 18 yrs, of age or older when you register for the comments forum. I know all of you students want and need to talk about this, but please create your own forum on My Space or perhaps start a group at school.
Adults that post on these forums may say things that you don't like or understand, so it is best that you all don't lie about your ages in order to comment.
I feel your pain and confusion, but these forums are not for children. Thank you.
January 2, 2008 at 3:48 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Love_miss_dozier_alot (anonymous) says...
i hav been crying for a while and i cant stop. i love u miss dozier.
<3 camille
I dont care if u know her or not know one has the right to judge my old assintent princabal!
January 2, 2008 at 4:23 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
we_love_miss_d (anonymous) says...
rtc,
no one cares we have the right to express our emotions we love miss d and will miss her so we will all post
January 2, 2008 at 4:51 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Medic51 (anonymous) says...
I wanted to respond to many of the comments that are floating about on this page. I feel compelled to tell about a woman whom I have been friends with for many many years and am still very close to her family. Yes many of you are right Mrs. Dozier was one of the most incredible people that anyone could have ever met. Kathryn and I became friends in Middle School, seventh grade to be exact. We were friends instantly and grew to love each other very very much and were the best of friends. Kathryn and I talked on the phone during college years and once out in the professional world still maintained a line of communication as best we could. Kathryn will always be dear to my heart and I know that what ever went through her mind on the night of her death must have been something that no one in this world could ever have imagined. I have read a few comments that suggest that she did not have a support group of friends and family and I am shocked that such a suggestion would have even been made. We were all close to Kathryn and loved her very much. The things that she might have endured before this situation were her and her familys business and no one elses. Growing up She was one of the strongest people that I knew and always knew how to handle any situation. I live here in York SC where our group of friends all went to school and grew up. We are all shock of this tragedy and want everyone to know that theres nothing in this world that we would not have done for her. For those of you who met Mrs. Dozier I know that your life was touched in some way, just as mine was. To her students, please remember her in just the way you've described her, as a loving and ambitious person. I sit now and am looking at pictures of our group of friends and how close we all were and I know that this world will be at a loss without Kathryn. For those of you who speculate about this situation...STOP! Just know that she was loved and we will miss her dearly!
Michael Lewis
January 2, 2008 at 4:51 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
RTC (anonymous) says...
No, you do not have the right to express anything on this forum. You are committing fraud by registering on here. Also, as I said, go on My Space like most kids do and start a memorial to your beloved asst. principal. You are dishonoring her memory by lying. She would not be proud of any of you for being rude to adults.
January 2, 2008 at 5:01 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
sheeple (anonymous) says...
Very sad.
Looks like the English/writing curriculum at Cario Middle School could use some work, though. My third grade teacher wouldn't have passed me on if I'd written as poorly as the students commenting here!
January 2, 2008 at 5:05 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
we_love_miss_d (anonymous) says...
umm it says no where that u have to be 18 i'll keep expressing my self when ever i want.
January 2, 2008 at 5:06 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
dragos (anonymous) says...
rtc
lighten up
January 2, 2008 at 5:15 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
we_love_miss_d (anonymous) says...
ummm no you r taking this like its nothing i loved mrs dozier and you arent helping! so u lighten up
January 2, 2008 at 5:27 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
RTC (anonymous) says...
Sorry, let the kids take over the forum. People wonder why kids act the way they do these days?
They are not held accountable for their actions.
They are allowed to have their on way and have no manners or respect for their elders.
If grown people want to blog with children then I leave you to it.
BTW- No.5 on the policy contents states the part about being 18 yrs. old. Their rules, not mine.
January 2, 2008 at 5:39 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
JohnS (anonymous) says...
This person had issues no doubt. Jumping off the bridge puts other people in danger( police, Coastguard, Fire and Rescue ect). This would have been a worse situation if someone was killed or injured trying to pull her body out or if someone not paying attention crashed into her parked car.
January 2, 2008 at 5:41 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
gamecockcougar (anonymous) says...
RTC: I'm proud of these kids. To go the Post and Courier's site and write a message about their teacher is very kind and intelligent.
They might be breaking the rules, but I support their intentions. Rebelling against rules for a greater cause is part of the American Spirit. Great Job Kids!
January 2, 2008 at 5:55 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
elizabethnm (anonymous) says...
I am a South Carolinian who now lives in New Mexico and I was deeply saddened to hear about Kathryn's death. I knew her from our school days and while we had lost touch over the years, I will miss her presence in the world. This story and the comments posted have been one of the ways I am keeping touch with the people who are also hurting and remembering Kathryn at this time (I am having trouble remembering that she is "Mrs. Dozier" to some of you!). Thank you to the students who knew her for sharing. You make me feel more connected to her life. I am also a teacher (though not a principal) and hearing your thoughts and memories gives me hope that I too could inspire my students that way that Mrs. Dozier has yours. If there is a lesson here, it might be to simply take care of each other the best way you know how. Thanks again to all who are thinking of Kathryn now - it makes me feel less far from home.
January 2, 2008 at 5:56 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
YCHSCougar95 (anonymous) says...
Well written, Medic51. Thank you for your post. My heart plummeted the moment I heard the news that Kathryn had passed. She lit up any room she walked into. She was graceful, beautiful, very outgoing and considerate.
When you're from a town as small as York, you literally graduate school with the same people you began it with. That forms a strong bond that will not and can not be broken. No matter what circle of friends one was in, everyone knew and loved Kathryn.
Myself, I attended the same church with her and was in her Youth Group, as well as attended Palmetto Girl's State with her to represent our school, along with two other young ladies. I will not say that I was one of her best friends. I was not. However, I do know she loved everyone and everyone, myself included, loved her in return.
One last thing, if you will. To those of you arguing over free expression: Please take the argument to another forum.
Thank you for your time and your prayers. Her family and friends up here in York are very grateful.
Susan E. Garner
January 2, 2008 at 6:02 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
scfirefly (anonymous) says...
As the sister of a sufferer of severe psychotic depression, I feel I can commemt knowledgeably.
20 years ago my sister was hospitalized for almost two months during her senior year in college. She was a perfect, high achieving student. There was no abuse or catastrophy that triggered her illness. Eventually she responded well to ECT.
The questions we should ask about this case are: What role did her health insurance play in her treatment? We can conclude that she had been diagnosed and was receiving some form of treatment. Was she ever hospitalized? Was she discharged too early?
In 1986 my sister was in the hospital for 8 weeks. Today, insurance companies are forcing people out too soon. Remember Andrea Yates?
January 2, 2008 at 6:06 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Pratt07 (anonymous) says...
I'm going to have to back RTC on this one. It's nice that the students want to comment on their beloved teacher, to express themselves and mourne in their own way, but on a forum such as the P&C might not be the appropriate place for these kids. And yes, it is in the Terms and Coniditions. No one feels like arguing with kids who misinterpret adults' comments or take them the wrong way. Everyone here can understand the grief and pain that comes along with losing someone who they have looked up to or have been close with.
Regarding the story, this is a very sad incident and my prayers go out to the family and friends as well as students and co-workers of this well-loved and respected person. To the witnesses, my the Lord comfort you in this difficult time.
January 2, 2008 at 6:16 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
ducksgirlsc (anonymous) says...
suicide is not the easy way out to those whom are suffering, its the only way out. I felt the same way most of you felt until my sister committed suicide in December of 2005. There are always the what ifs and whys, but the only person who knows that is the person who committed suicide. It doesnt matter how much support a person may receive if they are determined to commit suicide you wont stop them. Now, I as a parent of a Cario student had to talk to my daughter about this and try to help her understand. I hope that Cario's administration takes this very seriously and has grief counselors there tomorrow and in the days to come. One way to help is to get involved, there are local support groups that have been a tremendous help for me. Cario Students organize a walk in her honor, plant a tree.
http://www.outofthedarkness.org/
http://www.afsp.org/
afsp is american foundation for suicide prevention and Out of the Darkness is another group.
Any Parent that needs help talking to their child, afsp.org is a tremendous help.
January 2, 2008 at 6:25 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Tyler_messer_12 (anonymous) says...
omg i cant belive it that is not a good way to die she was a nice teacher a very very nice teacher she shoukd have never done that i wish i could go back to that date and save her from commiting suicide she was 1 of the best assistent princeable (princable) she was also the coolest ever i know she had some rough times with some kids but she did not have to jump off the bidge but im also not saying that in a mean or nasty way im saying it is a sincer way.
January 2, 2008 at 6:33 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
YCHS95 (anonymous) says...
Medic51 stated it correctly! I too, have known Kathryn since Middle School. She was such a wonderful person to be around. I could always tell when she was around because she would light up the room with her personality.
It makes me irrate how some people are only worried about what caused her to make a tragic choice in life. She would not want us to dwell on the who, why and how's of her personal life. That is between her and her family. She should be remember as the sincere person that she was. Kathryn, you will truely be missed. May your family find peace and love in the memories they cherish
Tory Faris
~"No person is ever truely alone. Those who live no more, Whom we loved, Echo still within our thoughts, Our Words, Our hearts. And what they did And who they were Becomes a part of all that we are, Forever."
January 2, 2008 at 6:45 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
JmarlonD (anonymous) says...
I was blessed to have known Kathryn during her college years. Today I learned of her death and I'm still in 'shock' over this tragic story. Many questions fill my head which I know will never be answered and my heart is heavy. During extreme emotional times as these it can be hard for us to act rational. Everyone, please let's simply remember Kathryn as she was, a warm and loving individual.
My sincere condolences go out to her family and friends. She will be missed tremendously.
Marlon
January 2, 2008 at 6:51 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Love_miss_dozier_alot (anonymous) says...
I just want to let everyone know':
PLEASE don't judge my assistent princable on what she did but remember how she was a great, funny,gourgous, kind, smart person she was! i love u and you will be in my prayers.
i will miss u in the hall and when i pass your old office and i wont see u when i get off my bus and pass you coming/leaving lunch,,,,,,,,i love u.
R.I.P
<3
January 2, 2008 at 7:10 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
babyblues101 (anonymous) says...
Mrs.Dozier was not just an Assistant Principal she was the nicest person you could meet.When i was told what happened i felt sick to my stomach.Today death is becoming a reality. It doesn't matter how people die what matters is that they lived and affected so many lives in a positive way.
When now walking down the halls of Cario i will always remember how much Mrs.Dozier did to help keep the school running. She will truly be missed.
January 2, 2008 at 7:21 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
klm (anonymous) says...
I think there are other forums out there for people who have anthing to offer besides condolences. With that said, I wish to express my deepest sympathy to the family, friends, students, and most of all to Ms. Dozier, for no one knows the pain and hopelessness she must have felt.
May all beings be PEACEFUL.
May all beings be HAPPY.
May all beings be SAFE.
May all beings AWAKEN to the light of their TRUE NATURE.
May all beings be FREE.
January 2, 2008 at 7:41 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Hey_U_Guys (anonymous) says...
It's amazing to me the amount of people in this forum that can't spell PRINCIPAL
January 2, 2008 at 7:59 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
noname (anonymous) says...
klm, you've got it all wrong. This forum is provided for those who wish to express their feelings as well. An on-line guest book will be provided for those of you who wish to share your wonderful memories of the deceased.
Yes, this is a horrible tragdey, but what could possibly make a person want to end their life baffles me. Personally, I feel as others do, she took the easy way out.
January 2, 2008 at 8:15 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
klm (anonymous) says...
I would like to clarify my comment. I think words should be chosen carefully with only the best intent behind them and with regards to whom they may affect. The nature of this situation is already upsetting enough, especially to those who personally knew Ms. Dozier, without having to read insensitive remarks made by people who didn't.
January 2, 2008 at 8:50 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
JoKing (anonymous) says...
I worked with Kathryn at Alston Middle School from the time she was hired. She was a team member, a team leader, and above all - a very good friend. I just heard of this incident tonight and am heartbroken. I left Alston the same year Kathryn did and unfortunately hadn't talked to her since. We both went our separate ways - she to Mt. Pleasant and I to Sumter. Kathryn will be greatly missed by friends and family, but also by former students. God be with her family at this time. Why this happened is not important now. What is important is remembering the good times and the terrific person that she was. She will be missed.
January 2, 2008 at 10:05 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
dave3719 (anonymous) says...
So as I prepare myself for sleep time and reading all these comments I am still pondering about why she was on medical leave....
Oh well, RIP.
January 2, 2008 at 10:52 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
clayton001 (anonymous) says...
LORD JESUS,Please comfort the hurting and heal the wounds,as only YOU can do.
"Come to Me all who you who labor and are heavy laden, and I will give you rest.Take My yoke upon you and learn from Me,for I am gentle and lowly in heart, and you will find rest in your souls.For My yoke is easy and My burden is light." Matthew 11:28-30
January 2, 2008 at 11:26 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
rollo (anonymous) says...
follydude,
2X suicide/homicide?
Where did that stat come from?
January 2, 2008 at 11:59 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
JohnS (anonymous) says...
I think the reason she was on medical leave was severe psychotic depression. Several of those medications make you do things you would not do otherwise. Thoughts of killing yourself is very common with these medications. I do wonder the motive of jumping right at midnight. This would have been a planned event to be on the top of the bridge right at midnight.
January 3, 2008 at 12:05 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
dwfrance (anonymous) says...
To you (Hey_U_Guys) you are funny...Did anyone stop to think maybe she put her flashers on to simply run over to the railing to yell HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!...then fell...thats what I'm gonna think happened...HAPPY NEW YEAR!
January 3, 2008 at 12:10 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
rollo (anonymous) says...
How can taking your own life make anything better for anyone?
Especially your loved ones.
January 3, 2008 at 12:15 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
hotrod2007 (anonymous) says...
This is a very sad situation. Recently, I heard through the grapevine that her husband, a med student or doctor, requested a divorce. Hopefully, this is untrue because I surely wouldn't want to be in his shoes.
Although, I did not know the Dozier family. I pray that they find comfort and strength during this difficult time.
May God Bless You Mrs. Dozier RIP.
January 3, 2008 at 12:19 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
msqdpye (anonymous) says...
To all of you with negative things to say about Kathryn Doizer, think how you'd feel if it was someone in your family or circle of friends.No one knows why this happened but her and the good lord, and ONLY HE CAN JUDGE HER! Personally, Mrs.Dozier, I will truly miss you, your calls,and conferences about the girls. I pray that god will forgive you and save your soul, as well as for your family and friend's healing, especially for YOUR KIDS at CARIO MIDDLE SCHOOL,who were waiting on your return! WE ALL LOVE YOU< MRS. DOZIER, BUT GOD LOVES YOU BEST!!!!!!!!!! Because no one knows, I say to you go ahead and take your rest!!!
SLEEP IN PEACE KATHRYN, SLEEP IN PEACE!! You truly will be missed....................
January 3, 2008 at 6:02 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
ThinkAboutThis (anonymous) says...
HR07,
IMO, that makes this even more sad, talk about a support system............ and if this indeed was a reaction to that situation......... A well educated young lady who was adored by children in the education system so deeply hurt, like this...........both the children and Ms. Dozier......
Be at Peace- dear child- Be at Peace
January 3, 2008 at 8:06 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
IOP4ME (anonymous) says...
When the bridge was slated to be built there was alot of discussion regarding preventing suicides. I havent heard or read much talk about it lately. Will 2 suicides in one month get the dialogue started again?
January 3, 2008 at 9:51 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Tyler_messer_12 (anonymous) says...
In memory of Kathryn Dozier a loving and caring assisted principal she was one of the best assistant principal that we had here at Cario middle school she was also the kindest and prettiest assistant principle and she was also the loyalist and the funniest we will all miss her so. I just hope that we will all remember her as the nicest teach er ever she was very peaceful to. But she was the best assistant principle her death broug ht us all down but hopefully we will all survive this great lost we will also remember her as the greatest assistant principle here at Cario middle school.
R.I.P
Kathryn Dozier
January 3, 2008 at 10:13 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Tyler_messer_12 (anonymous) says...
twas the kiddest and coolest teacher ever
January 3, 2008 at 10:14 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
concerned_friend (anonymous) says...
HR2007,
I assure you your grapevine was wrong.
Would everyone please stop speculating on what happened (including social situation). It is none of anyone's business except the family's business. These rumors are absolutely driving me nuts, and they are off base.
January 3, 2008 at 11:13 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
MCgurl (anonymous) says...
Tyler - spend your time researching spelling and grammar instead of lying saying you are 18. It's obvious you are 12.
The obit/memory page is for you KIDS to leave your memories - not on an ADULT forum.
And, thought school resumed today - why aren't you there?
January 3, 2008 at 11:37 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
joepowe (anonymous) says...
My 7th grade math teacher I never thought in my life that I would see her like this. She was the sweetest teacher I had great personality that no one could deny. I heart dropped when I heard the news. My heart, pray go out to her family and husband.
January 3, 2008 at 11:37 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
SCgal (anonymous) says...
Then went went wrong~ a great educator, smart, beautiful, well-loved, respected, surrounded by many who loved her just don't go jumping off bridges~ something doesn't add up as to why and the kids need to understand, work through this, and heal~
January 3, 2008 at 11:39 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
SCgal (anonymous) says...
Don't come down on the students~ they are heart-broken over this~
January 3, 2008 at 11:41 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
momto4 (anonymous) says...
It is VERY natural and normal for those who knew her and even those who didn't to ask the question "Why?" I am a Cario parent and we just want to make some sense of this. Nobody is wanting to pry, WE JUST CARE and we are hurt too. Knowing the circumstances will not bring her back but at least we will have some closure. I hope the family takes this into consideration. Many people are left devastated and want to understand........some details to help us deal with it. If the ones that are left in pain are not given answers, they can only speculate. Speculating is not good but our only alternative to try and figure out this shocking death to a well-loved human being. My daughter and many other children are left to grieve and get through the loss. They deserve respect and understanding.
January 3, 2008 at 11:50 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
pelicanwoman (anonymous) says...
I know I'm going to be fussed at for this, but....
Maybe the children who are posting here are just in a big hurry to post, and that could account for some of their spelling and grammar errors. I, too, recently lost a beloved former teacher, but the circumstances were different. He died of cancer in his early 60s. One of the things he taught us was to always put our best foot forward when we represented ourselves. He said when you write, you should take care to do the best job you can, as you are not only representing yourselves, but your educational system (and the teachers by extension)as well.
A few posters have made the point that this is an adult forum, and is supposed to be limited to those over the age of 17. However, many of the students have declared they have the right to post here, no matter what the rules are.
I'd like to offer a compromise- children, if you feel you MUST join in this conversation, please take the care and time to make it the best post you can. Some students have displayed good writing skills, and those posts will be considered and accepted. You are representing the very teacher you claim to love and the school you attend. Be aware you are jumping into a message board populated with adults. If you want to be taken seriously, step up your presentation and communicate on an adult level.
January 3, 2008 at 12:09 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
gator (anonymous) says...
The people who were closest to her know the things she was dealing with. If you did not know her I really have no idea why you would even post a blog on here. Let's just hope and pray that the school system lends a support group to the students and faculty for the grievance process. My thoughts and prayers are with Kathryn's family and support system.
January 3, 2008 at 12:48 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Carolinak (anonymous) says...
I was glad to see that Palmetto Man mentioned the Trident United Way 2-1-1 Hotline. 2-1-1 Hotline is a nationally certified Crisis Line.
The number 800-922-2283 is the toll free number, however you can simply dial 2-1-1 from most phones to reach them 24 hours a day. 744-HELP(4357) is the other local number. 747-TEEN(8336) is the TeenLine number answered by trained Teen Volunteers M-F from 4:00-8:00pm.
Both lines are answered by trained phone volunteers and offer crisis intervention, suicide prevention, information and referral and most importantly, a caring listening ear.
If you would like to help people in our community who want help or need someone to talk to, we would invite you to volunteer. Training takes place 3 times a year. The next training starts in February. Please call the office at 566-7186 for more information.
2-1-1 Hotline also sponsors a local Survivors of Suicide support group for family and friends who have lost someone to suicide. Call 2-1-1 for more information.
If you want to learn more about Suicide Prevention and Statistics, you can visit www.hopeline.com, www.afsp.org, or www.suicidiolgy.org.
January 3, 2008 at 1:02 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
walleyedwoman1215 (anonymous) says...
Gator, as to why those who didn't know Mrs. Dozier feel compelled to post, consider this from John Donne's Meditation XVII:
"No man is an island, entire of itself...any man's death diminishes me, because I am involved in mankind; therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls; it tolls for thee."
January 3, 2008 at 1:02 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
momto4 (anonymous) says...
Here is my 2 cents: I think it is silly to comment/criticize the posts here for their spelling/grammar errors or for the under-age posters. We are talking about a tragedy here. Just had to say what many are thinking!
Prayers and Thoughts to the family and friends of Kathryn Dozier
January 3, 2008 at 1:31 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
SCgal (anonymous) says...
And it's educators like Ms. Dozier that motivated our children, encouraged them, they trusted, and believed in her and wanted to do their best to please her.
It's not many times a child, especially during middle school years can find a true relationship like the ones shared by her, feel as if they are understood, and form that special connection.
January 3, 2008 at 1:48 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
MtPMom (anonymous) says...
NO KIDS ALLOWED. ONLY PERVERTED SPECTATORS ALLOWED!! See this blog is for adults whose lives are so uninteresting and boring that they feel the need to comment and speculate on the lives of others - others they do not even know. So if you actually know the person and have a story that relates, please do it somewhere else. In addition, you most have perfect grammar and punctuation skills. No kindness or consideration for others needed. Lastly, remember the rule: 18 or older. Forget the Golden Rule: Treat others as you would like them to treat you.
January 3, 2008 at 2:12 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
pelicanwoman (anonymous) says...
Gator- because it is news. People spend copious amounts of time and money and energy in discussions of Britney and Brad Pitt. That, to me, is a waste of time. When people discuss these local issues among themselves on a forum such as this, they are showing interest in a LOCAL issue that potentially touches many of us. Ever heard of the "Six Degrees of Separation"? Some are just trying to make sense of it. There will probably be a seperate blog through the obit for her family and friends. If we make all topics that involve death, personal tragedy, and sorrow off-limits to these forums, there won't be many topics left on which to exchange dialogue.
January 3, 2008 at 2:18 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
dragos (anonymous) says...
MtPMom
Bravo!
January 3, 2008 at 2:33 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
AFWally (anonymous) says...
Very sad.....to bad someone couldn't have reached her before she took her life, rough on the family and the students. May she rest in peace.
January 3, 2008 at 2:40 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
tysmom (anonymous) says...
To MCGurl
This forum is for people who knew and cared for Kathryn Dozier. The kids and especially the staff, at Cario, including my son, are devastated by the loss of Ms. Dozier. For you to chastise a child b/c he is sharing his feelings via bad grammar and/or spelling is horrible. We knew Ms. Dozier and are heartbroken over this loss. I Pray that our children will get through this with minimal scarring. The death of Ms. Dozier is not an easy one for children to comprehend. It is hard to explain to a middle schooler why their Asst. Principal took her own life. As the days go on I hope that the fond memories continue on and she is not forgotten.
I was at the school today and was impressed by the school district sending multiple teachers and counselors over to help with whatever was needed. Our Prayers and thoughts go out to all who knew her and in particular her family. She will be sadly missed.
MCGurl...Weren't you ever taught that if you didn't have something nice to say not to say anything at all??
ONE LAST THING: TO ALL CARIO STAFF AND STUDENTS.....LET'S ALL WEAR CLEMSON ORANGE TOMORROW IN REMEMBERANCE OF HER.
May God Bless you Kathryn!!
January 3, 2008 at 3:54 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Love_miss_dozier_alot (anonymous) says...
I understand this forum is for people over 17 but the ones that loved mrs dozier most (students,staff,friends) have the right to post and express our feelings. we are all heart broken over this loss. today i was soobing in school b/c off her death so some kids may feel this is there way to say goodbye, like me. I am proud of all my fellow friends and peers and students to post their thoughts and goodbyes.
PLEASE don't judge my assistent princable on what she did but remember how she was a great, funny,gourgous, kind, smart person she was! i love u and you will be in my prayers.
i will miss u in the hall and when i pass your old office and i wont see u when i get off my bus and pass you coming/leaving lunch,,,,,,,,i love u.
R.I.P
<3
good bye mrs. dozier
camille
January 3, 2008 at 4:53 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
thereels (anonymous) says...
I knew Kathryn since junior high school as well. I even dated her in high school. She had the kindest personality and it reflected on those around her. It is a devestation to all that knew her and what kind of person whe was.
I pray for her family especially.
Aaron
January 3, 2008 at 7:14 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
mom2grtkids (anonymous) says...
To MtPMom
Well said!! I do not care how well they say or spell it but it is better said than the words I am hearing from a lot of the adults. They love and miss her let them express them self where ever they can. Bottom line at this point does it really matter? Isn't it better to have children today that are not emotionally withdrawn? Are they really bothering anyone typing a blog about how great their teacher was, the same teacher that I believe would much rather have their words spoken about her than the adult words I am hearing. For the ones of you that are not here to mourn or pay your respects to the wonderful Ms. Dozier go catch up on a new reality show because the unkind speculative words that you are saying would fit or a gossip room on myspace. There is one for MATURE (gossipy) adults.
Put yourself in her loved ones shoes, would you want strangers discussing your daughter, sister, mother, wife? speculating why or who could have stopped her unforgettable death. Just think once before you speak (or type). Just nice things please.
LET HER REST AND HER FAMILY MOURN AND CELEBRATE THE LIFE THEY HAD WITH HER......
on another note... how is MY spelling? and I am over 18!
January 4, 2008 at 12:30 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
MCgurl (anonymous) says...
You are all right, my bad. God forbid parents should have to teach their kids that lying is bad, and skipping school is not right for any reason. I forget that in this day and age kids are never wrong, nor ever disciplined. Yes my mother taught me if you have nothing nice to say, don't say it - she also taught me not to lie and when my fave teacher was killed my junior year, she made me go to school and it was better to be with my friends, teachers and grief counselors - not an excuse not to go. And I didn't say anything mean - just stated facts. By all means the kids need to voice this, but not in a place where they have to lie to do it. But hey - who is accountable for their actions in this world anymore?
January 4, 2008 at 7:29 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
clayton001 (anonymous) says...
WHAT THE BIBLE SAYS ABOUT JUDGING OTHERS,YES GODS WORDS CLEARLY GIVE US GUIDENCE; MATTHEW CHAPTER 7,MAY THE SPIRT OF GOD GUIDE YOU TO HIS TRUTH AS YOU READ.AMEN
January 4, 2008 at 7:52 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
mom2grtkids (anonymous) says...
I was not going to respond to you because then it gives you what you want...... but why are you making this the main topic of this forum? Did you forget why this whole discussion started? KATHRYN
By the way these children have parents quit treating them like they made this decision on their own.
I give.
kids remember her for who she was the teacher that loved you and would be proud of you. Speak your words of respect but speak with respect even when others do not speak respectively to you. I commend you on wanting people to know her from your side.
REST IN PEACE KATHRYN AND MAY GOD BE WITH YOUR FAMILY.
January 4, 2008 at 8:21 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
momto4 (anonymous) says...
I am glad the kids are speaking out. I think it is healing for them. Who cares about their spelling right now? This is not the place to worry about that!!! I think the kids have a right to know what caused her to go this far, though. I think it will help them to understand depression or whatever may have been the cause. I believe it would help them have closure to have more answers. Unfortunately the family does not feel this way and wants to keep details private. We DO have to respect that.
January 4, 2008 at 9:40 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
momto4 (anonymous) says...
Mcgurl: you have valid points in your posts and you are not wrong. They are just not appropriate and in bad taste. I think it is respectful to keep to the subject and remember priority right now. Lets move on from this!
January 4, 2008 at 9:48 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
pelicanwoman (anonymous) says...
Just in case some of you did not know this:
If you go to the obituary, there is an electronic guest book. Its a wonderful place for students, co-workers, neighbors, childhood friends, etc. to post a message about their feelings and memories of Ms Dozier. That will be the place her family and friends look for messages and tributes, and the messages stay up for about 30 days. Perhaps that is a more appropriate place to see good messages about a loved one than a general news article discussion forum, where its a free exchange of ideas on news. Yesterday the obituary guest book only contained 14 messages- it would be a more appropriate and helpful place for her grieving students to express their feelings.
January 4, 2008 at 9:53 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
mom2grtkids (anonymous) says...
Pelicanwoman Great idea! Lets put energy into sending good messages to this greiving family.
Everyone have a great day! Life is to short to not enjoy it to the fullest everyday!
January 4, 2008 at 10:17 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Kawasawa (anonymous) says...
Those who do not learn from the lessons of history are bound to repeat the mistakes already made.
You see, let's be blunt. We are talking about an individual whom everyone who knew her says WAS THE NICEST PERSON to deal with, yet Committed the most unthinkable CRIME, IF she knew what she was doing.
Now, you may call me what you want, but I also have an analytical mind.
From the accounts of the witnesses, she jumped within minutes of the new year. This suggests PREMEDITATION. Talk about depression all you like, what a cliche'. She had to have scouted this location beforehand, chosen the date and time, AND YET, she never at any time stopped to think about the grief of those she was going to hurt by this act.
I hope you readers condemn me for being insensitive, at least I provoked you to see incident through another set of eyes.
Teachers are the ultimate role models for our children. What lesson did this STAR teacher teach her students in her final moment on earth?
Who is even pondering the TRAUMA and its future effects on these children who have grown to love her so.
... give me a break! Our responsibility is to the living. Let's condemn the taking of life as unacceptable.
Unlike what some of you are trying to say, if we invest in understanding what happened to her, what drove her to commit this act, then maybe, .. just maybe, we will be in the position to help our neighbor who may be comtemplating doing the same.
January 4, 2008 at 10:43 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
mom2grtkids (anonymous) says...
I agree to some level with you, my points are mostly to the living. 1) The children being able to say what they want without ridicule and 2) the family wanting grieve in peace without speculation about their daughter, sister etc. and the horrific act that she did. They know because they will live with it for a long time. Let the investing in her death come at a later time and later place not where SOME people want to celebrate her life and remember her the way she was to them or the last time they saw her.
Celebrate her life as you remember Now....Condemn her acts later.
January 4, 2008 at 11:14 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
nochasgirl (anonymous) says...
I never met Mrs Dozier, but I do have a child at Cario. Middle school students are at such a hard age as "tweeners". Most of these students have probably never dealt with death, much less a suicide. Suicide is such a mystery, not knowing what led the person to take their life. When someone dies from an illnes, it is easier to accept. Children need to learn about depression. In today's "antidepressant drug" solution to depression, we need to be aware that there are many risks involved. Even though I did not know her, I feel such an emptiness. As a mother, I hurt so much for her parents. I believe so many people are heartbroken because they would have done anything for her that they could, and just feel helpless. May God bless her parents and family in the days ahead.
January 4, 2008 at 2:04 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
tysmom (anonymous) says...
Again to MCGurl,
Who are you to say that MY child skipped school? YOu have absolutely NO idea as to where my child was at the time of the posting. NOT THAT IT WAS ANY OF YOUR BUSINESS BUT HE WAS IN SCHOOL!!!!!!! You need to go to a different forum...you obviously didn't know this person and you thrive on ridicule and harrassment...Don't you have a JOB to go to or a house to clean or maybe even a school to go to???? You are acting like a child and have no clue as to the ramifications this act will have on our children.
All he was trying to do was voice his opinion about a person he knew and cared for. You certainly don't have any children of your own....that's clear and you obviously have no clue about suicide, death or how it affects children. NOw go to your MYSPACE or FACEBOOK page and play games there where it's tolerated by them and GROW UP!!!!
Sorry for the vent to all others....I'm just sick of ignorant people who have nothing better to do than get on the internet and post comments about things they have no clue about. Sorry I got sucked in.
January 4, 2008 at 2:43 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
hokie (anonymous) says...
I met Kathryn a few years ago thru my best friend. She was a very smart, sweet and beautiful woman that had so much to offer. She was a friend to everyone that she met. We all should remember how great of a person she was and anyone that did know her can remember the great things that Kathryn had to offer. At this time, we should not be selfish, we should be there for her family and close friends that loved her very much. It has been years since I talked with Kathryn but it feels like yesterday just remembering the happy person that I met the first time at the gym. She was a great person in my book and it was an honor to know her. We will never know what happend and why she did this, but lets remember the good times and what she offered in her professional and personal life and the many lives she influenced and touched. May God be with her family and friends at this difficult time.
January 4, 2008 at 3:18 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
ct3 (anonymous) says...
Ms.Dozier was someone you only have to meet once for you to know how much a loving person she was. We did'nt just lose her, we lost a part of us that we will never get back. I will deeply miss her. "REST IN PEACE"
Go tigers!
January 4, 2008 at 3:58 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
momto4 (anonymous) says...
nochasgirl: I have a child at Cario too and I am in agreement with all that you said!
kawasawa: I agree with you too. You are very right in saying this because suicide is such a selfish act. However we STILL don't know all the details. Although premeditated, a person who would kill themselves is NOT in their right mind. Now I just heard today that the police suspect homicide because there was no water in her lungs. This may be a rumor, I don't know. As long as the details that led up to this is kept private, speculations and rumors will continue. This person was very loved and important in the community and they will not let this rest. Just as her family would want to know "why?". Her friends and community want to know too! They loved and respected her and will grieve as well.
January 4, 2008 at 7:10 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
MosesGuava (anonymous) says...
Something doesn't add up. It's easy to write this off as suicide, and not want to think about it.
IMHO: We owe it to Ms. Dozier to ask questions. She died because there was a problem. Well, that problem is still out there. I hope, Kathryn Dozier, you get your justice.
R.I.P.
January 5, 2008 at 7:55 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
momto4 (anonymous) says...
well said MosesGuava
January 6, 2008 at 11:02 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
SkyBlue (anonymous) says...
I met Kathryn when my child first started school at Cario. I feel the same way as all of the people that have left positive posts about her.
I was talking to my child and a few of his friends about how sad it is at school for all of her students.
Over and over I am hearing from the children regret at something that they think they did or didn't do to cause her to end her life this way.
These children have loved and respected her.They look up to her and have taken her advice and guidance. They need to have some closure about this. To speculate why does not change anything but might help some of her students.
My thoughts and prayers are with her family and co-workers and the students who question themselves.
January 6, 2008 at 4:33 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Mycondolences (anonymous) says...
Honestly, it's disrespectful on so many levels that people on this board are having arguments with kids trying to post comments about their teacher. This is a newspaper article, kids can read the paper, I, for one, applaud these children, they, just like everyone who loved Kathryn, don't want their beloved principal to be speculated about and labeled. Those children are dealing with pain too, and they are just as confused as everyone else. To them this is just a way of trying to deal with what happened. Those kids have the right to post here just like everyone else. If anyone shouldn't have a right to post here, it's those of you so disrespectful and immature that you argue with children voicing their concern and love on a newspaper article that represents such a tragedy for them. The people that have loved Kathryn for so many years are reading these comments, and it's hurtful. Stop labeling her. Stop speculating about what happened. Stop wondering why she was on medical leave. It's no one's business. It's hard enough for her family and loved ones to deal with this without having to read comments from complete strangers saying that she had issues. It's hateful and wrong. Just know that she was ambitious, gorgeous, and loved. Leave it at that.
January 6, 2008 at 6:04 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
ThinkAboutThis (anonymous) says...
One thing for sure if anyone would answer why this may have occurred it would help ease minds of those who loved her.
The truth and openess could never change the tragedy but it would end the awful rumors and speculation about such a well liked person. The truth will not tarnish her memories as the speculation and rumors can do and help bring peace to many so they may begin to heal.
January 6, 2008 at 6:31 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
MCgurl (anonymous) says...
Mycondolences: "Those kids have the right to post here just like everyone else." ----Ummm, no, they don't.
Terms of Use
WEB SITE TERMS OF USE
C. SUBMISSION OF CONTENT BY USERS
5. Release: You agree that you are at least 18 years of age.
Tysmom: If he was at school, then they are as bad as parents not guiding the kids to the RIGHT places to post - i.e. the memory guestbook, and letting them logon against policies. My point is that they are not adult enough to understand "adult-talk". Noone is bashing your teacher - I hear she was awesome. But as a community, oh yeah, and free speech, we have a right to adult discussions. As for me "wasting time" with my posts, y'all have spent more time bashing me than I've been on this board! LOL
And yes, I do have children, I just believe in raising them as such, and teach them morals and values, and especially not to lie just to be heard.
January 7, 2008 at 9:03 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Mycondolences (anonymous) says...
There are times when children are faced with mature and adult matters. This being one of them. You can't shelter children forever. And as for adult talk. It is not adult talk when adults reduce themselves to arguing with children.
January 7, 2008 at 12:30 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
SCgal (anonymous) says...
Maybe the parents signed up, so they are 18 and allowed the children to express their feelings as part of the healing process. How do you know who actually signed up for the acct?
Anyway, enough of this.....
R.I.P. Ms. Dozier, may your deep pain, sorrow, and hurt be over. You will be loved by many, remembered by many, and hold special places in their hearts and lives. May your family and those who love you find comfort and peace to heal in the coming days.
January 7, 2008 at 12:52 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
spungo (anonymous) says...
People die, that's how it goes, and yes, even beautiful people can lose the desire to live. No, it's true. It appears that this lady did more in her abbreviated life than many entire families accomplish, so more power to her. There's no rule that says everybody has to live to be 80. If she wanted a trip to the land of wind and ghosts, that's what she got.
The most shocking part of the story, however, is the stark inability of our young people to write a correct sentence, much less put several of them together. Reading this thread has been demoralizing. How can someone write a 6 line run-on sentence with no punctuation? How can spelling "principal" be such a daunting challenge? And it's not just the poor mechanics - the expression of ideas tends to be a clumsy mess, too, I see. Sigh.
It looks like 7 year olds wrote most of this stuff. How did they make it to middle school? I guess that explains who I keep seeing kids who know how to nothing other than push buttons and eat stuff.
Very disturbing, indeed.
January 7, 2008 at 11:13 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
spungo (anonymous) says...
Oh wow...I forgot...South Carolina, eh? Never mind, then. Y'all's chilluns done wrote real good-like.
January 7, 2008 at 11:16 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
nochasgirl (anonymous) says...
I keep checking the comment section for information concerning Mrs Dozier. It would be nice if the comments would focus on her instead of spelling and grammar. I view this comment section as an informal way to express your thoughts. Comments really do not need to be graded. They're just comments. I read an article years ago when instant messaging became popular. The article stated that it was the worst thing that could happen to spelling and grammar because of the "shorthand" method of writing. Text messaging is the same. I don't look at it as incorrect, it is just a way to communicate. Remember, students today are not typing term papers on a typewriter, nor do they have to figure out how many lines to leave available at the bottom of the page for footnotes. The computer will do it all for them, and check the spelling and grammar, as well. Texting and instant messaging are like the abbreviated messages on personalized license plates. Those are fun to figure out, right? The important thing is to express yourself, and communicate! No giant red check marks necessary.
January 7, 2008 at 11:58 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
mom2grtkids (anonymous) says...
nochasgirl: Bravo!
January 8, 2008 at 10:37 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
MCgurl (anonymous) says...
Good luck with checking for information on Mrs Dozier. PnC barely follows up on a story unless it involves cops and guns and what people think are brute force! We are terrible for speculation, but that is all we have. My neighbor was murdered 11/11/07, and I'm still waiting on a followup on that story.
May she rest in peace despite what demons she fought.
January 8, 2008 at 3:34 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
momto4 (anonymous) says...
Spungo: Is that REALLY the most shocking part of the story? How sad for you. By the way, your last sentence in the longer post needs a little help.
January 8, 2008 at 5:42 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
mom2grtkids (anonymous) says...
It is so sad that so many people will have to live without Kathryn and my heart goes out to her family, students, co-workers and friends.
It is also so sad that there are so many angry, unhappy people in this world that cannot even give sympathy when it is due. MCgirl: I feel so sorry for you and that your life must be pretty unhappy that you have attacked everyone on this forum. Ranging from people misspelling words, to grieving kids and now the P&C for not reporting enough info. on cases! What next?
I came on this forum as a fluke one night when I was trying to get the latest on Kathryn's funeral arrangements. When I pulled up the P&C website I saw this forum had started I read through a few lines. I wanted to give my deepest sympathy to whoever might read that knew her. Since then it has been completely steered in the opposite direction from the main focus of this forum "Kathryn" and her death. I am open to opinions but not stooping to the level of making fun of people "southerners" - (spungo) or attacking everyone for whatever the reason might be. -(MCgirl)
spungo: this is what "disturbing" really is!!
January 8, 2008 at 7:56 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
momto4 (anonymous) says...
mom2grtkids: Well said. Thank you.
January 9, 2008 at 10:35 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
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