Johns Island toll road unlikely

County officials say throughway still on table

By Diane Knich
The Post and Courier
Thursday, December 18, 2008



A toll road probably isn't in the cards for Johns Island.

Elected officials from the southern end of Charleston County say they're still considering building a road that spans a part of the island — just not one people have to pay to drive on.

At a Wednesday meeting called by Charleston Mayor Joe Riley to open a dialogue about a future road on the island, Riley met with Charleston County Councilmen Paul Thurmond and Curtis Inabinett, and the mayors of Rockville and Kiawah and Seabrook islands.

Some of the mayors and councilmen also invited community members and town officials to attend. But the meeting might have been improperly called under the state's open meeting law because the public wasn't notified.

Riley requested the gathering in late October so elected officials could reach a consensus about building a road that runs across Johns Island from the intersection of Maybank Highway and River Road to the southern end of the island, near Kiawah and Seabrook islands.

He said he was trying to defuse a contentious debate over a proposed toll road, which he doesn't think has the support of the majority of Johns Island residents.

Riley said after the meeting, which took place at Charleston County's Lonnie Hamilton III Public Services Building, that it should have been open to the public. "I don't know why it wasn't," he said, adding that the group will notify the public about future meetings.

County officials said they are researching whether the group's meetings must be open to the public under state law.

Riley also admitted that earlier this month he failed to notify the public about a meeting of the commission that will make decisions about a memorial to the firefighters who died in the Savannah Highway Sofa Super Store fire.

Riley said at Wednesday's meeting that additional roads are needed on Johns Island, particularly south of Maybank. He thinks a road should be built from the northern end of the island to the southern end, near Kiawah and Seabrook islands.

But he doesn't like the idea of a four-lane, limited-access toll road, known as the Sea Islands Parkway, which was strongly supported by Thurmond. "The scale of that for Johns Island wasn't correct," he said.

Supporters of the proposed parkway said it would reduce the traffic problems on Johns Island's network of scenic two-lane roads, and would not contribute to the development of the island.

But opponents said building the four-lane road would harm the island's rural character and encourage more development.

Thurmond said he wasn't committed to the idea of a toll road. It was simply a way to finance one.

Riley said the toll road proposal has so much resistance on Johns Island that it's not a good idea to keep pushing it. "We need to find the right route and get it on the list" of construction projects, he said.

Riley said he "had in mind a rural road" that runs between River and Bohicket roads and is connected to many other roads.

Inabinett, who represents Johns Island, said the mayor's meeting was similar in composition to a committee he tried to form to discuss the proposed road. But his proposal included Johns Island residents and "other stakeholders." Inabinett invited five community members from Johns and Wadmalaw islands to attend the meeting.

Louise Maybank, a Wadmalaw resident, said she thinks the group is looking only at a small portion of Johns Island and it needs to take into account traffic and congestion on the entire island. And she wants all future road building to be sensitive to the culture of rural people on Johns and Wadmalaw islands. Unlike the elected officials, island residents might not largely support a road across Johns Island, even if it's not a toll road, she said.

Seabrook Mayor Frank McNulty and Kiawah Mayor Bill Wert said they are concerned about safety on the island's two-lane roads.

McNulty said the only viable option put forth so far to make roads safer is to build a road down the middle of the island. "We're ambivalent about it being a toll road," he said.

Riley said the meeting was the first of many the group will hold to decide the best way to ease congestion and preserve the environment on Johns Island.

Thurmond, who represents Kiawah and Seabrook islands, said he thinks the meeting was a good first step.

He hopes it will lead to moving forward with building a road to make the island safer and to serve the growing population.

But he hopes it doesn't lead to more studies. "It's been studied, and studied and public-hearinged out," he said.

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charlestonian (anonymous) says...

I'm sure Corrupt Joe just forgot to make a notice about public meetings. Just more of his back door dealing for his own personal gain.

December 18, 2008 at 6:23 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

voyager12 (anonymous) says...

The rich folks only care about getting to Kiawah and Seabrook faster. If they could stripmine the entire island and cover it in concrete with an expressway and a train they would do it.

December 18, 2008 at 7:51 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

theronce (anonymous) says...

The demographics are continuing to change. It is only a matter of time before anything rural about those islands is gone. Wait long enough and the opposition will be small enough to truly ignore. Maybe some of the old timers with a little land could join the ACE Basin.

December 18, 2008 at 8:12 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

eatmorecollards (anonymous) says...

I can't see public funds being used to build a road to accommodate the rich and famous on Kiawah and Seabrook. Perhaps if they took the guards off the gates and opened the resort to the general public it would be reasonable.

I-526 should be completed before this is even discussed.

December 18, 2008 at 9:30 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

thegovie (anonymous) says...

They have been talking about this for 15 years! No progress, just talking, about the same old issues, as more people die and get maimed on Bohicket, River and Main Roads, and traffic grinds to a standstill. These 'leaders' and 'stakeholders' need a reality pill and commit to compromise and progress.

December 18, 2008 at 9:55 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

iceman1978 (anonymous) says...

I don't see this happening any time soon. They're talking about how many schools to close for lack of funding. Where do they think the money for this will come from?

December 18, 2008 at 11:33 a.m. ( | suggest removal )

icunvme (anonymous) says...

Where is this money coming from? If there is no money for the schools on the islands how can there be money for roads. I guess roads are more important than schools. Go Figga!!!!

December 18, 2008 at 1:46 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

surfer (anonymous) says...

Using the "people continue to die" arguement is pretty ignorant. The whole idea that there aren't enough roads on John's island is preposterous. Say what you mean Joe. You mean Will Smith can't get from Charleston International to his house on Kiawah in less than an hour so we need roads big enough so he can drive out there faster. Pitiful. Simply pitiful. This is Charleston's finest.


There's plenty of roads on John's Island, and they're as safe as anywhere else in the lowcountry if you SLOW DOWN.

December 18, 2008 at 1:55 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

YankeeLady (anonymous) says...

The Kiawah and Seabrook folks have been pushing for a road for years. You know, not every trip has to occur at 80 miles per hour. The roads are fine if you're willing to slow down and enjoy the scenery. Isn't that what it's all about? Why did they bother to buy or rent property there in the first place?

December 18, 2008 at 4:21 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

843allday (anonymous) says...

So Kiawah is established as a resort somewhere around 1974, yet road safety becomes a big issue some where around the late 80's, so the Betsey Kerrison is completed (near the time of the 1991 Ryder Cup). So now safety is an issue again,but the 2012 PGA Championships is right around the corner? Hmm...Sounds like an excuse to me. Generations of families have traveled these roads safely....You rich folks can't have it both ways...You move down here because of the rural atmosphere, yet you want the highways similiar to where you came from. Either get off the phone and slow down, or move back to where you came from! And Crooked Joe just wants this so he can make the island a part of Charleston....

December 18, 2008 at 4:53 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

iceman1978 (anonymous) says...

I agree. Slow down and enjoy the scenery along the way. When I drive to Summerville I often take 61 since it's the scenic route. You also avoid a lot of traffic by going that way. Same way with John's Island. Try driving 45-50 instead of 65+.

December 18, 2008 at 5:38 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

PalmettoDP (anonymous) says...

Traffic is usually slow and/or stop and go when I travel down Main Road, so I don't see how anyone could maintain 65 even if they wanted to.

It might be cheaper and more acceptable to Johns Island residents if a limited access two-lane road (no private driveways) were built with occasional passing lanes. Traffic lights would be acceptable, if they were few and far in between.

Just a thought.

December 18, 2008 at 6:09 p.m. ( | suggest removal )

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