Secret Service caught off guard by incident
By Greg Gordon and Adam Ashton
WASHINGTON — Although the Secret Service put everyone who attended President George W. Bush's Baghdad news conference through several layers of security Sunday, the agency appeared to be caught off guard when an Iraqi journalist hurled his shoes at the president.
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"We'll be our own harshest critic regarding this incident," Secret Service spokesman Ed Donovan said Monday, "and we'll make any appropriate changes to security."
Donovan said, however, that agents on the scene knew that everyone in attendance had been screened for weapons and that they appeared to have taken the "appropriate level of action." No shots were fired as Bush's Secret Service detail joined Iraqi police in taking the shoe-thrower into custody.
The arrested man, Muntathar al-Zaidi, a 29-year-old employee of Cairo, Egypt-based Baghdadiya Television, remained in Iraqi custody Monday. Officials in Prime Minister Nouri al-Maliki's office refused to comment on his condition or on whether he'd be criminally charged.
Throngs of Iraqi Shiite Muslims marched Monday in Sadr City, a sprawling Baghdad slum, hailing al-Zaidi as a hero and holding up shoes as they demanded his release.
The National Media Center, an arm of the Iraqi government that deals with the news media, condemned al-Zaidi's behavior as barbaric and harmful to "Iraqi journalists and journalism in general," demanding an apology from his employer.
Baghdadiya hasn't apologized, and it pressed for al-Zaidi's release.
The Iraqi Union of Journalists took a middle road, saying it was "astonished by this behavior" but urging al-Zaidi's release "for humanitarian reasons."
Video of the event at the prime minister's palace shows a tightly packed room in which most security personnel were forced to the sides, and 20 video cameras lined the back of the room.
About an hour before the news conference, a Secret Service agent arrived and gave waiting Iraqi journalists, who didn't know that Bush was making a surprise visit, a fourth and final search.
No Secret Service agent was in view on the video when al-Zaidi threw the first shoe at Bush's head from about 20 feet away and shouted in Arabic: "This is a goodbye kiss, you dog."
Bush dodged the shoe, and al-Maliki, who was standing to Bush's left, tried to block al-Zaidi's second attempt, which also missed its target. A Secret Service agent appeared to move to Bush's side, but the president waved him off.
The video shows that another Iraqi journalist, not security agents, pulled al-Zaidi to the floor before Iraqi police and Secret Service agents piled on him and carried him from the room.
While Bush wasn't harmed, the incident was reminiscent of John W. Hinckley's failed attempt to assassinate President Ronald Reagan in 1981.
After that incident, the Secret Service began requiring journalists to undergo background checks, credentialing and screening with metal detectors.
Donovan said that everyone attending Sunday's event "was searched for weapons and passed through several layers of security" before entering the room. He said that they also were subject to name checks, identification checks and verification that they represented their identified news employers.
"It's obvious that (Bush) could have been hit in the head with a shoe," he said. "Anytime there's an incident like this, we're going to review it. We're always trying to improve ourselves."
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theronce (anonymous) says...
JimIslander, that is our president, and you are a fool and no longer worth responding to after this one.
December 16, 2008 at 6:53 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
islandbenzbc (anonymous) says...
I hope they cut the guy's feet off...
December 16, 2008 at 6:55 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
blackberry_fan (anonymous) says...
JimIslander just be thankful that soldiers have fought and died to protect your right to get on forums like this and make an idiot of yourself. Weather you like the Presidents politics or not he is still the President and deserves a little respect.
December 16, 2008 at 7 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Larz13 (anonymous) says...
Hey Jim,
The unemployment office opens in a few minutes....better go get your check.
December 16, 2008 at 7:26 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Speedy (anonymous) says...
I loved Bush's quick reactions and the look he gave the shoe tosser when he popped back up was priceless. He looked good. I think many people would have stood there dumbfounded as the shoe hit them in the face.
December 16, 2008 at 7:27 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
msplacedinsc (anonymous) says...
Jimbo,
The negative responses to your post tells me all that I need to know who the "GOP Bootlickers" are! I'm glad to see that he wasn't hurt or killed becasue if he was Dick "the crock" Cheney would run the country and how much more crud would america be in?
Many of my friends and family will agree with you that George deserves "zero" respect, the millions of americans who didn't vote GOP the last 8 years truly know the truth!
The only problem that I see is that on Jan 20th and beyond George won't be forgotten because "he and the GOP" are to blame for the mess this country is in and the GOP have overseen the last 8 long years with the mentality of " if it ain't broke don't fix it". I wish he'd be "old news on Jan 21, 2009, that would be wishful thinking?
I would hope that you are not unemployeed, but if you are maybe Speedy, Larz13 and theronce, would gladly help you out in the wallet? When walking through a parking lot and you see a "Bush/Cheney" or a "McCain/Palin" bumper sticker, casually mention Thank You to them for what america is going through?
BTW no need for George to look dumbfounded on such a minor incident, he couldn't duplicate the dumbfound look 7 years and 96 days ago! 36 days and counting and " the end of an error"
December 16, 2008 at 8:04 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
abitskeptical (anonymous) says...
Saddam would have shot the shoe thrower on the spot....that is if that sort of press conference would have been held under his tyranny.
December 16, 2008 at 8:05 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
meesta_challie (anonymous) says...
I'd have to say Mr. Bush did a pretty good job of dodging
the shoes. Quick work, because as someone else says,
many others would have just stood there frozen.
Now, I wish Mr. Bush would make a public statement
asking the Iraqi security forces to release the man.
December 16, 2008 at 8:13 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
abitskeptical (anonymous) says...
One does not have to be a GOP "bootlicker" to recognize that a personal physical assault by a host country citizen on a visiting head of state is unacceptable & criminal.
(PS, I am a registered Independent & have been disgusted by what the GOP has turned themselves into over the last decade or so...hardly a GOP bootlicker)
Often folks become so impassioned in their feelings that they loose all semblance of reasoned debate & analysis, resulting in their having little to no credibility...certainly no more credibility than the object of their or disapproval.
Zealotry comes to mind.
Zealotry is an equal opportunity discreditor.
In order to right the wrongs of the last few decades, we need to disregard the zealots on both sides, be honest & constructive in our criticisms & also give credit when & where it is due.
December 16, 2008 at 8:26 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
RTC (anonymous) says...
An Iraqui journalist shouldn't be trusted anymore than the rest of them.
Talk to a WTC survivor like I did the other day, and no one in their right mind would trust any of those people.
JimIslander, you are a traitor. It doesn't matter if that had been any of our presidents, past or future, you should be ashamed of yourself.
We, as US citizens, should all be upset when an attempt to harm our president occurs.
Chances are if that man could have been armed with something deadlier than a shoe our president would have been killed. I guess that would make your candy ass jump for joy.
December 16, 2008 at 8:29 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
SimplyMad (anonymous) says...
Jimhoe, msplacedinsc_mind & their god obama, would have pissed their pants.
The only courage jimIsuck and ilk like him, have is on these boards. Other than that, they like every other coward leftist wouldnt do any more than run to protect themselves from aggression.
The only time the bitter leftists are willing to "fight" is when they are rioting and burning cities while protesting some perceived wrong doing.
As for the shoe throwing bonehead, your welcome to the freedom you have to throw those shoes, freedom bought for with the blood of brave Americans. If it were left up to cowards like jimhoeisland, and his leftist comrades, your feet would have been removed by Saddam.
As for the secret service being "caught off guard"...in the words of Austin Powers "Who throws a shoe?!"
Thank God for President Bush, and God help us as the weak leftists take over.
December 16, 2008 at 8:35 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
bribetaker (anonymous) says...
I heard Major League baseball is offering him a multi million dollar contract. They think he might be able to hit the broadside of a barn....
December 16, 2008 at 8:36 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
SimplyMad (anonymous) says...
abitskeptical -"One does not have to be a GOP "bootlicker"
The real bootlickers are the slobbering, worshipers of obama. Just look at the pure Cult of personality, when it comes to obama and his supporters, they would fall to their knees and lick his boots in a heart beat.
December 16, 2008 at 8:39 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
coolfreaknbeans (anonymous) says...
I don't care who the president is at the time. (even O'Bama, who I can't stand) It is is NO way acceptable to assualt OUR president. It is disgusting,criminal and insulting to us as Americans. Don't be a fool JimIslander. That man wouldve hurled a shoe right at your face too. That shoe may have technically been thrown at George Bush- but it was really thrown at America. I for one will not applaud anyone for disrespecting our country.
December 16, 2008 at 8:43 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
SimplyMad (anonymous) says...
No need to imagine a flood of information coming out about Blagojevich and his law breaking, one scandal worse than the next. And a friend of obama and his comrades. I wonder what excuses the chickenhawk posters here will use to excuse Blagojevich's & friend's criminal actions when the flood gates open
Jimbo, be prepared when Utopia doesnt happen, obama is no different than any other politician coming out of the chicago political machine of corruption.
December 16, 2008 at 8:45 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
theronce (anonymous) says...
abits, speaking of zealotry, whether you check the posts or not, I have spoken up for the incoming president up to now. You also have no idea who I voted for in any election. A sitting president is our president, and I expect all Americans to be concerned about their safety and health...not only as our president but also as the decent thing to care about. I'm concerned that the secret service let their guard down. I remember the day that Kennedy was shot, and I never want another day like that. We have been blessed with the results of all of the attempts on the other presidents since then. Someone in the secret service, and possibly in our military, needs to be held accountable. The shoe thrower needs to be tried; he is obviously guilty of assault on a foreign dignitary. I do wish someone had reacted and shot him though.
December 16, 2008 at 8:50 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
ironhorse (anonymous) says...
This has nothing to do with President Bush.
When the reporter threw the shoe, he was yelling "Free Michael Vick!"
December 16, 2008 at 9:02 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
SC_Native_ElCid07 (anonymous) says...
JimIslander, I can always count on you to say something completely un-American and unpatriotic each and every morning. Your hatred must really run deep.
December 16, 2008 at 9:04 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
RTC (anonymous) says...
Jimmie, first off, you have no idea for whom I voted. This is not about party affiliation, it is about America. I support my country no matter who the president happens to be. You should be made to lick the mud off the boot of every single US soldier that has defended this country.
What does WTC have to do with any of this? That question does not even dignify an answer.
As for bending over, that is your area of expertise, you little fairy queen.
Now, go run back into your rathole like you usually do when people start berating you.
December 16, 2008 at 9:04 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
GermanyXO (anonymous) says...
Spot on coolfreaknbeans! Our U.S. President represents the U.S.A. and while there are those of us who don't favor him, he's still everyone's U.S. President.
I wish I were the first Secret Service agent to take al-Zaidi down UFC-style. I think a twisting arm-bar on the arm he used to throw the shoe would be most deserving.
Cheers!
December 16, 2008 at 9:05 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
guidedbystewart (anonymous) says...
I thought it was quite funny and LMAO, and it would have been even funnier if he had hit him. No harm, no foul.
December 16, 2008 at 9:07 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
guidedbystewart (anonymous) says...
On second thought, It would have actually been better if it was Cheney.
December 16, 2008 at 9:10 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
SC_Native_ElCid07 (anonymous) says...
Where has the respect for the Office of the President of the United States gone? C'mon Americans!
December 16, 2008 at 9:11 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
coolfreaknbeans (anonymous) says...
Wonder if everyone would think it's so damn funny if it was hurled at O'bama?
December 16, 2008 at 9:12 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
SimplyMad (anonymous) says...
SC_Native_ElCid07 - "Where has the respect for the Office of the President of the United States gone? C'mon Americans!"
Respect left when the 60s leftist radicals took office with Clinton. Oh, and the blue dress.
Do you really expect these America hating losers like jim and guided to respect the President? Just based on the fact that they are self-loathing and bitter leftist, with no respect for themselves, should tell you all you need to know. They are cowards.
December 16, 2008 at 9:21 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
outrage (anonymous) says...
JimIslander - I do not get the argument about war crimes and treason, please explain?
December 16, 2008 at 9:24 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
geekboy (anonymous) says...
Please don't feed the troll(s).
December 16, 2008 at 9:26 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
guidedbystewart (anonymous) says...
Well Obama didn't attacked a country that never attacked us, leaving it in turmoil and expect everything to be hunky dory. And no I am not defending terrorist and the people that attacked us on 9/11, as I remembered, none of these people were Iraqi.
December 16, 2008 at 9:27 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
froglegs (anonymous) says...
What does disliking the President have to do with our soldiers?
As well ElCid07 it is the JOB of the U.S. President to earn the respect of Americans it should not be mandatory.
December 16, 2008 at 9:28 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
guidedbystewart (anonymous) says...
....anyhoo, I would love to argue my point but I have got work to do so forget I typed anything.
BTW, geekboy, you are not a troll if you make a comment on a relevant subject matter, if you do not believe me, look up what is considered an internet troll.
December 16, 2008 at 9:33 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Tulane75 (anonymous) says...
I am unaffiliated, but I voted for Obama. I do not like the present administration.
Nevertheless, I prefer the electoral process to things like physical attacks, which I find deplorable. Whether you respect President Bush or not, cheering an attempted attack is merely a variation on the theme so prevalent in parts of the Middle East after 9.11.01, when crowds celebrated and cheered the attacks. I suppose you would have cheered if the President had been hit or shot or worse.
JI is one of those people who may have legitimate reasons for supporting one candidate or the other, but who would be the first to abuse the rights of his opponents the minute his "people" come into power. I have read it in his posts, which make me cringe every time he/she threatens that NOW you Republicans are in for it. I think this is how fascism gets started. Based on JI's posts, I think he/she believes that those who voted Republican should have fewer and different rights. Are you kidding me?
This mentality (Jim Islander) has been and will always be a slippery slope.
December 16, 2008 at 9:35 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
AFWally (anonymous) says...
pretty disrespectful act, I'm not surprised though, we are hated everywhere.......good reflexes on W's part to avoid the KO
December 16, 2008 at 9:49 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
coolfreaknbeans (anonymous) says...
"Well Obama didn't attacked a country"(posted by guidedbystewart) LMAO. Need I say more?
December 16, 2008 at 9:52 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
geekboy (anonymous) says...
I wasn't refering to you as being the troll(s), guidedbystewart.
But for the record, even if it's on topic, a person IS trolling if they post something so outrageous that it's obvious that:
1. The poster is is attempting to be inflammatory, or
2. The poster is insane.
3. In certain cases, both 1 and 2.
For an example of #3, look at post #5.
December 16, 2008 at 10:01 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
AFWally (anonymous) says...
Bush is liable to come down here and throw his cowboy boots at Jim......only he won't miss
December 16, 2008 at 10:09 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
greyman (anonymous) says...
jimislander
wow you are an idiot. You are still here in America i see. Why don't you move to france or something. You obviously don't like America. What what that nonsense about veterans and there pentions and healthcare. Of course they deserve it. You should be thanking God you are in america and can have youre wacked out ideas. I am suprised you didn't try and say you were in the military this time. You do amuse me though. I always get a good laugh at you.
December 16, 2008 at 10:10 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
guidedbystewart (anonymous) says...
Well Obama didn't "attack" a country....
I multi task most of the time when writing these post and by doing so I do make grammar errors. I should be more through with my proof reading skills, but sometimes I am not, especially when I am busy.
Whoopi Do! I know people love to question my intelligence because they disagree with me, but if you are really up for the challenge just let me know.
If you want to become a grammar Nazi with me beans, you better make sure that you dot your I's and cross your T's.
December 16, 2008 at 10:11 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
outrage (anonymous) says...
guidedbystewart - "I should be more through with my proof reading skills."
You meant Thorough, just trying to help. My grandmother's name is Winifred Sevenpiper, Yet I am not a grammer N***!:-)
December 16, 2008 at 10:21 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
geekboy (anonymous) says...
George Bush doesn't throw boots. He throws T-LAMs and Marines.
December 16, 2008 at 10:21 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
coolfreaknbeans (anonymous) says...
I'm certainly no "grammar Nazi" lol I could truthfully care less about your grammar skills, I was teasing. But I do question anyone who would find it so funny to see someone try to assault our president. Our president represents us as a country. I find it hilarious how extreme left wing Bush haters act like their views align with people like this shoe thrower. Are you people so arrogant and full of yourself that you think they'd welcome you over there? There have been anti war, anti Bush people go to Iraq to "help"- guess what happened to them? Well....they're dead now. These people hate America and Americans!(the extremists)They'd be just as likely to throw a shoe at your head or a lot worse. If you don't like this country- LEAVE! It's simple. And for anyone wondering- as much as I hate O'Bama I would stand by him if someone were to try to attack him as well. Because he will be our president.
December 16, 2008 at 10:35 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
B_Fwank (anonymous) says...
guidedbystewart- speaking of Nazi's, did Germany attack the US, prior to the US entering the war in Europe?
I mean, we, the US, did kill thousands of non-combatants with carpet bombing and fire bombing of German cities.
Is Europe free today (other than socialism)? Part of NATO? Didnt it take 50 years after WW2 for the soviets to collapse, all the while, the US, helped to defend most of Europe from Soviet aggression?
I mean, maybe your right, screw Iraq, who are they to deserve our help....
Just saying.
December 16, 2008 at 10:43 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
B_Fwank (anonymous) says...
coolfreaknbeans "And for anyone wondering- as much as I hate O'Bama I would stand by him if someone were to try to attack him as well. Because he will be our president."
Dont stand to close to him, being a chicago leftist, he may just grab you for protection!
December 16, 2008 at 10:47 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
AFWally (anonymous) says...
Dresden comes to mind....
December 16, 2008 at 10:47 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
SCPDBLUE (anonymous) says...
The Iraqi security detail and Iraqi journalist were more effective than our own secert service. Maybe our secert service should train with the Iraq secert service. A better idea would be to have our Secert service train with the Israeli Massad. they have years of practice in VIP security.
December 16, 2008 at 10:52 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
KidYendor (anonymous) says...
I think the pulling off of shoes and waving them at Congress, state legislatures, city councilmen, and school boards would be a good symbolic gesture to adopt in our country instead of booing them when they overstep the boundaries of their governance over us. I do not condone throwing shoes to injure. Just do the shoe-wave. That will send the message they need to see when we are disgusted at what they do to us.
December 16, 2008 at 10:54 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
scdog (anonymous) says...
I'm sure if Obama was up there the reporter would have thrown over 40% of his paycheck at him like the rest of america is going to do in order to support his trillion dollar spending!!! I don't agree with many things bush has done including the bailouts. However, the leftist democrats that control congress and now the white house will only make things worse. PS: I think Obama might lose his senate seat to the GOP simply because his chums in Chicago are dirty. Gotta go cling to my Guns and Religion. Bye
December 16, 2008 at 11:09 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
msplacedinsc (anonymous) says...
Simple & BFwanker & JohnnyBoy,
All of you deep down can't stand the fact that AMERICA elected a man to the highest office that isn't a "true white man"? Please give me a minute.............HA, HA, HA!
All I ever read from you three uneducated, sudo american, hypocrit's that fact that you harp on the term socialism? Do you even know the term socialism? Ok.........take a minute and go to the dictionary and look up the term?............The moment our fore fathers signed the U.S. Consitution, this country has been a socialist country!
Sorry to give you the bad news?
December 16, 2008 at 11:46 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
B_Fwank (anonymous) says...
msplacedinsc - geez, thanks for the enlightenment, oh brilliant one. Why is it that it is you and jimbI that keep pointing out his "color"? I am more upset that true marxist are now going to be in power. But thats fine, when it all falls apart, those that can will, and those that depend on those that can, well they wont.
Just ask William Bradford. In his journal, Of Plymouth Plantation (1620-1647). Socialism was tried and it failed. This example should be studied and understood by all who profess to love Liberty today.
The founders understood liberty and property rights, I didnt see anything in the original Constitution that indicates we were a complete socialist nation.
The Constitution was created because it was believed that even a moral people need federalization to protect themselves from invaders and to regulate commerce. This is a utilitarian or pragmatic justification for limited socialism.
But, WTH, just a poor dumb hick!
Hey, how do you spell pseudo?
December 16, 2008 at 12:03 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
outrage (anonymous) says...
msplacedinsc - It is actually a Republic.
December 16, 2008 at 12:11 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
B_Fwank (anonymous) says...
msplacedinsc - can you point to any of the following in the Original Constitution, signed by the founders, that fit the definition of socialism?
1: any of various economic and political theories advocating collective or governmental ownership and administration of the means of production and distribution of goods
2 a: a system of society or group living in which there is no private property b: a system or condition of society in which the means of production are owned and controlled by the state
3: a stage of society in Marxist theory transitional between capitalism and communism and distinguished by unequal distribution of goods and pay according to work done
I can point to almost everyone of the above that indicates that we are moving in that direction right now. With the help of every democrat, many republicans and Bush, and soon Obama.
Amendment IV - property rights
Amendment X - states rights
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.
http://www.law.cornell.edu/constituti...
Take that you pseudo historian!
December 16, 2008 at 12:21 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
SpiderJohn (anonymous) says...
I am glad our president was not injured, but it was funny as he77!
Little Boy Johnny - the sentence should fit the crime. This man does not deserve to die for THROWING A SHOE and MISSING!
BTW - Obama is going to be a much better president than the fool we have had in office for 8 years!
December 16, 2008 at 12:23 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
abitskeptical (anonymous) says...
A little under half the country didn't vote for Obama, so will he "represent" only those 50 odd % who voted for him when he is sworn in as President? Wow, I must have missed a few social studies lessons.
Why do blind followers of...(pick any party or candidate) feel the need to speak in absurd & exaggerated extremes which rarely reflect a whole unbiased truth?
Funny that with so much corruption being revealed in the home state & fellow party members of the president-elect that anyone would try to paint "the other party" as the only one infused with corruption. Anyone spouting off that kind of nonsense is either blind or uneducated...or perhaps both.
Gee, the talking points & logic of the emotional "thinkers" never ceases to baffle me.
December 16, 2008 at 12:29 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
B_Fwank (anonymous) says...
Results certified over the weekend show Barack Obama got 52.9% of the popular vote vs. 45.7% for John McCain. The difference - 7.2.
If you look at a map of county results, ( http://www-personal.umich.edu/~mejn/e... )it appears that the majority of those that voted for Obama, live in urban areas/large population centers, non-producers and those that voted for McCain, lived in rural areas - the bread basket, those that feed the country.
Just look at the blue counties and think about who lives in those areas/counties.
December 16, 2008 at 12:52 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
msplacedinsc (anonymous) says...
wanker
So you want to call Obama and his supporters and Independants a bunch of Socialists? Group everbody together uh it's easy for a simpleton like yourself?
You are correct our Consitution never regarded this country to be a socialist state. Americans,........ republicans, democrats and independants all rely on the government for some sort of assistance everyday, so please spare us this long winded sermon about Obama and his party.
If you don't like it here, then please move to another country and find happiness and oh take your GOP idealogy that hasn't worked since Nixon with you.
:) :) :).....my way of laughing at you and all your neo-con friends all the way to the bank!! God Bless you and your kind!
December 16, 2008 at 1:03 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
geekboy (anonymous) says...
If ignorance is bliss, you must be one happy liberal.
December 16, 2008 at 1:23 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
B_Fwank (anonymous) says...
msplaced_pseudo historian,
Thank you, for admitting I was right and you were wrong. HA HA HA HA HA!
No, I would leave and take my conservative/constitutional ideals with me, but;
1. I love my nation and
2. The rest of the world has tried socialism / communism, and have failed to the point of misery.
And millions are suffering under marxist rule while literally 100s of millions have died.
So, I propose to stay here, support my nation and President, except for supporting his agenda, and wait it out for the inevitable failure of obama's new, new deal.
Which will continue to destroy the economy. With the help of Bush and congress bailing out the UAW, of course.
At which point, because I have a viable trade and am an educated person not to mention a rugged individualist, will survive and be prepared to rebuild this great nation, America, the great experiment.
Those that can will, those that are scabs on the backs of those that can, wont.
I am not laughing at you, I am shaking my head in complete disbelief at your complete acceptance of the coming masters of this Marxist Utopia.
December 16, 2008 at 1:30 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
icunvme (anonymous) says...
They better release the reporter before they start another war...LOL if only he had another shoe....I know Saturday Night Live is gonna mock this one. This should be on the countdown for one of the best moments of the year. LOL
December 16, 2008 at 1:42 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
SpiderJohn (anonymous) says...
BF - do you mean you are like one of those guys that hides out in the woods, eating grubs and plotting the downfall of the establishment? Then you will swoop in and clean up the mess that the liberal pinko commies that have created of our great nation?
Wow you must be a super hero or at least the smartest individual in the whole wide world.
December 16, 2008 at 1:51 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
B_Fwank (anonymous) says...
SJ - no, I am plotting nothing of the sort. I just know that history always repeats itself when the ignorant forget or ignore it.
Have a nice day, I have to go check my squirrel ( http://ac4.yt-thm-a03.yimg.com/image/... )traps.
I think I am out of shoes to throw!
December 16, 2008 at 2:01 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
msplacedinsc (anonymous) says...
geekboy
I'm a happy, successful, well compensated "independant voter" who has traveled all over the world and a physican to boot along with my wife another physican and 6 children (1) in the last year of medical school and (1) starting medical school! Life is great Baby!
My family laughs at you and your kind everyday, it's staggering the amount of money I upcharge a person that would come into my office and would appear to be a "GOP bootlicker" like you and simplymad, bfwanker, scdog and johnholmes! Don't get sick, ya'll I'll be taking your money!!
December 16, 2008 at 2:09 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
coolfreaknbeans (anonymous) says...
Really msplacedinsc? If thats true the board would LOVE to know. I'm not talking about the PnC board either. If you're so damn smart, don't you realize that they can trace your IP and find out who you are? What kind of Dr handles his own billing? Do you operate out of a single wide?
December 16, 2008 at 2:21 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
SpiderJohn (anonymous) says...
At least we know msplacedinsc isn't a cardiologist.....he would have a really hard time finding a heart in any of his afore mentioned posters.
December 16, 2008 at 2:26 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
512c (anonymous) says...
well, I think at least Bush was not hurt, because the insult was appropriate, and He needed a slap in the face, and he deserves no respect. If Bush had been hurt, too much anger towards the shoe thrower would cloud the laughter!!!!
If you were British, and you fought along side Washington, are you a Traitor? Come on children, get a mentality.
Bush is the Traitor of our hard earned democracy.
December 16, 2008 at 2:29 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
singleroni (anonymous) says...
didn't obama vote to go to war with the rest of congress? then he is as much of fault as the rest of them
December 16, 2008 at 2:44 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
B_Fwank (anonymous) says...
512c - we are not a democracy, and I doubt you did anything to "earn" it. Others fought and died for our Republic, and still do. And to think that they are fighting to protect an evil, money grabbing, heartless Dr misplaced. LOL, that is if he really is a Dr. tell me Dr, at what income level do you and your wife lose the ability to claim interest on your student loans?
Plus you admit that you are part of the expencive healthcare industry. I bet you are a Dr of idiocy, with a PHD in dumbarse.
LOL, what a joke you are, doctor indeed!
coolfreaknbeans - I think your right, maybe we should send a copy of Dr. Evil's post to the SC medical board. LOL.
http://www.llr.state.sc.us/pol/medical/
December 16, 2008 at 2:56 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
AFWally (anonymous) says...
A Doctor threatening to take money from patients? I hope he's ready for a very sore azz in jail, need some soap on a rope for the community showers to share with your butt buddy Doc?
December 16, 2008 at 3:07 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
B_Fwank (anonymous) says...
Obama didnt become a US senator untill 2005, BUT
As a candidate for his Senate seat in 2003 and 2004, Obama said repeatedly that he would have voted against an $87 billion war budget that had been requested by President Bush.
Yet Obama has voted for all of the president's war funding requests since coming to the Senate, and Obama voted in favor of the 2006 version of the USA PATRIOT Act.
December 16, 2008 at 3:08 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
SpiderJohn (anonymous) says...
singleroni - no Obama did not vote to go to war in Iraq. Did you listen to any of his speeches? He was one of a very few.
December 16, 2008 at 3:11 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
SpiderJohn (anonymous) says...
Remeber the Doc only said it about your guys, not the rest of us that have hearts and like people.
December 16, 2008 at 3:17 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
BPFROM843 (anonymous) says...
where was a suicide bomber when you need one
December 16, 2008 at 3:18 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
msplacedinsc (anonymous) says...
beano,
call them, have them trace me, I don't care because listen carefully, "I get to set the cost of my services" not you, the medical board, the state, or wal-mart! Sorry for the news! Oh by the way, we have a beautiful office here in the lowcountry and we take care of those who have insurance BCBS & Medicare. We give excellent care those who have insurance and to those who have no insurance at the free clinic on Thursday night, by the way things are going in this country (thank$ GOP) I'll be taking care of alot of you GOP "bootlicker$" on Thursday, thats if you can get in before closing. It' sad so many of you folks (GOP, ANTI-SOCIALIZE MEDICINE) are standing in line on Thursday night waiting to be seen!
BTW my single wide is 34' sea ray! See ya on the high sea?
December 16, 2008 at 3:22 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
B_Fwank (anonymous) says...
Ummm SJ;
Obama didnt become a US senator untill 2005, BUT
As a candidate for his Senate seat in 2003 and 2004, Obama said repeatedly that he would have voted against an $87 billion war budget that had been requested by President Bush.
Yet Obama has voted for all of the president's war funding requests since coming to the Senate, and Obama voted in favor of the 2006 version of the USA PATRIOT Act.
Cant go to war or continue a war without the money!
December 16, 2008 at 3:23 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
B_Fwank (anonymous) says...
msplacedinsc - one more question Dr; Do you carry malpractice insurance? Wouldnt it be nice if healthcare cost could be reduced with a little TORT reform? But NOOOOOOOO those democrats have voted against TORT reform over and over again.
Tort reform remains a major policy objective of the Bush Administration and the Republican party. Proclaims the 2004 Republican platform: "America's litigation system is broken. Junk and frivolous lawsuits are driving up the cost of doing business in America by forcing companies to pay excessive legal expenses to fight off or settle often baseless lawsuits."
The 2008 Republican platform continues the pledge to reform what is described as corruption in the civil litigation system.
Democrats are basically in a defensive position on the issue and the subject was not discussed in their 2004 platform.
But, I find it hard to believe you are a doctor anyway. me thinks you protest to much.
December 16, 2008 at 3:30 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
B_Fwank (anonymous) says...
msplacedinsc - if I get hit with a shoe, will you help me? After all, I am without socialized medicine and cant afford my co-pay, the ER wont take me because I am a legal resident of this great country and I need the money for my direct TV.
December 16, 2008 at 3:34 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
SpiderJohn (anonymous) says...
Barack Obama (D-Ill.) came out in opposition to the Iraq War at least as early as October 2, 2002, when he gave a speech against the war at an anti-war rally in Chicago.[1][2]
He gave the speech nine days before the the Joint Resolution to authorize the use of United States Armed Forces against Iraq (H.J.114), commonly known as the AUMF, which was passed October 11, 2002.[3][4]
Obama was not a U.S. senator at the time, and thus did not, as the Agence France Presse argued, "face therefore the high-stakes choice which confronted Clinton, fellow candidates Senator Joseph Biden, Chris Dodd and former senator John Edwards, who ... all voted in October 2002 to give Bush power to wage war in Iraq."[2]
My bad.....but he did not support the war. And I'm glad he didn't have to face the same vote as Clinton....I think at the end of the day her vote for the war is what really hurt her in the primaries.
December 16, 2008 at 3:42 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
SpiderJohn (anonymous) says...
BF - Bush wants tort reform because he is scared to death of the law suits from disgruntled Americans once he no longer has Executive Privilege!
December 16, 2008 at 3:45 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
msplacedinsc (anonymous) says...
Spider & wallyworld,
it's great to here that both of you are upset?? I'm not sorry, we have a huge heart for the very people we care for, blacks, hispanics, asians, gay, the poor, the sick, homeless, the very people you don't support from the GOP party who dislikes and discriminates against these people!
KMAB!, you are just like all the other "bootlickers" who believes everyman, woman and child for themselves until you need somebody like a mechanic, a doctor, a lawyer, plumber, electrican who are specialize and you expect the same respect you fail to give every person who are not like yourself?
My heart has plenty of room except for people like yourselves? Why don't you crawl out for the rocks you both live under and travel the world and see how other people who live and survive and expierence the hardships they deal with day in and day out and then send me another post because your blah, blah, blah crud is a waste of time!
December 16, 2008 at 3:46 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
B_Fwank (anonymous) says...
msplacedinsc,
Would that be the sea ray sundancer 340? Whats the Beam, Draft & length and Cruise Speed?
NP SJ. Obama wont end the war either.
December 16, 2008 at 3:50 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
SpiderJohn (anonymous) says...
MSplaced - excuse me? I am not a GOP anything. And if you go back to read my posts I fight the good fight all the time.
You best step back......just because the nimnuts got you all uptight doesn't give you the right to assume you know anything about me or my politics.
Read again and you will see I supported your comments.
Follow my thread from the past and go wipe the egg off your face.
December 16, 2008 at 3:55 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
SpiderJohn (anonymous) says...
BF - got a better chance ending it with Obama than with McBush/Lipstick Pig Palin - ;-) "God Willing" crap!
December 16, 2008 at 3:57 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
msplacedinsc (anonymous) says...
wanker,
I took the "oath", but in your case I believe, I would step right over you and continue on with my life should a shoe hit you because after reading your past posts you would probably try legal proceedings against the care I'd provide?
Gotta go, I have a 4:00 appt and they just pulled up with a BMW with a McCain/Palin bumper sticker. Cha-Ching
Thank God for people who don't take care of themselves and need to come see me, it's an endless trail of sick people who blame others for their illness except themselves?
December 16, 2008 at 4 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
B_Fwank (anonymous) says...
LMAO, well Spidy, looks like you wont be getting any free healthcare at the "free" clinic from Dr. MisplacedEvil!
LOL It is funny to see misplaced_mind, boast about the "goodness" of his heart and get all self-righteous about he and his family helping the "... blacks, hispanics, asians, gay, the poor, the sick, homeless..." !
let me toss this shoe your way misplaced_heart; so what you are saying is that "blacks, hispanics, asians, gay" cant afford healthcare due to the very nature of their sexual preference, skin color or ethnic background?
You are a funny guy! and me thinks a phoney!
December 16, 2008 at 4:06 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
B_Fwank (anonymous) says...
msplacedinsc - "..it's an endless trail of sick people who blame others for their illness except themselves?"
Sort of like an endless trail of "blacks, hispanics, asians, gay, the poor, the sick, homeless", (your words) that blame others for their situation instead of blaming themselves.
You are a flippin phony & a liar to boot! LMFAO.
You sound like this guy that everyone eventually caught on to, he lied so much he couldnt keep up with the lies - Arch_Dude.
Asta La Vista, bogus, counterfeit, fake, false, fictitious, imitation, phony, pretend, sham!
December 16, 2008 at 4:14 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
tc1 (anonymous) says...
It appears to me that msplacedinsc sounds more like the typical delusional liberal living a dream of the way he believes his life should have been. A real doctor has no time for ongoing silly poop discussions such as those that go on here. Of course there is Howard Dean, DNC chairman, to prove that a doctor is not automaticaly level headed and correct.
December 16, 2008 at 5:05 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
tc1 (anonymous) says...
I think it's Howard Dean?
December 16, 2008 at 5:08 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
geekboy (anonymous) says...
YEEEAAAHHHHHHH!!!!
December 16, 2008 at 5:37 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
B_Fwank (anonymous) says...
LMAO tc1 "A real doctor has no time for ongoing silly poop discussions..."
LOL, and those discussions sure do stink! I hope he used a latex glove after the last prostate exam, before typing his poop discussion!
December 16, 2008 at 5:38 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
abitskeptical (anonymous) says...
msplacedinsc, a physician ? Really?
Sorry but you blew your "cover".
While a physician can set his/her fees, if a physician is being compensated in any way through any federally funded program & is engaging in discriminatory billing of any sort, then he/she is setting up him/herself for a federal prosecution.
Of course if you really are a physician you would know this.
CFB..that is why he is so cavalier about anyone calling the Medical Board. They would not have him on their roster.
December 16, 2008 at 5:45 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
B_Fwank (anonymous) says...
abitskeptical, so would you say I was right when I called him a - bogus, counterfeit, fake, false, fictitious, imitation, phony, pretend, sham, & a liar to boot?
December 16, 2008 at 5:51 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
I_Love_d_Peninsula (anonymous) says...
I would like to throw a shoe at dubya for every soldier that has given the ultimate sacrifice for Nothing!
December 16, 2008 at 6:04 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Get_seriousHELP (anonymous) says...
I see my crack baby getserious is posting worthless opinions again. Please excuse my little mommies boy, he hasnt known anything remotely close to a father, that he could respect.
Secretly, deep down inside, he loves GW Bush, because Mr Bush is more of a man than he will ever be. I should not have left my computer on again after ordering my crack on line. Now my son getserious is posting again.
December 16, 2008 at 6:22 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Get_seriousHELP (anonymous) says...
I would bet that little DTMB, I mean getserious, wouldnt have the testes to even stand up and face President Bush, after all, little getserious is a coward. Plus, he only has one pair of shoes, I just got em at the salvation army. Had to get ones with velcro, he cant tie his shoes, poor little getserious.
December 16, 2008 at 6:27 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Chicago_Thug (anonymous) says...
It is a shame that so many of you have no idea the price of freedom.
Those shoes probably cost that journalist 100 Dinars and a goat.
I saw where Hugo Chavez found it funny. Strange, that Hugo would find this funny. In Venezuela, good old Hugo shut down TV and radio stations that spoke out against him.
December 16, 2008 at 6:38 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
abitskeptical (anonymous) says...
tc1-as crazy as Howard Dean is politically, I really cannot imagine him talking about his patients in the outrageous way mislacedinsc talked about his pretend patients.
Of course I might be wrong. From what I read about Dean a while back, I recall that he was regarded as a pretty good doctor & respected as a physician. Maybe he should have concentrated ALL of his energies there.
No room for politics in a doctor-patient relationship. Period.
December 16, 2008 at 6:44 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Chicago_Thug (anonymous) says...
abitskeptical,
I read those posts by mislacedinsc, I cant imagine a real, doctor taking the time to type up all the stuff he or she did and also insult several groups of people as his needy patients. Seriously.
Wouldnt that violate the HEPA laws?
December 16, 2008 at 6:59 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
abitskeptical (anonymous) says...
Below is a copy & paste from a Nov 6 misplacedinsc post:
"Now my wife and I are both college educated, she's a physcian (a real doctor in a real hospital) and"
[TA DA....]
"I am in the Developement business with a degree in Construction Management and a degree in Architecture. We both believe we are fairly intelligent...."
So there you have it folks.
(Been on my feet all day & decided to sit a spell at the computer...but finding that post didn't take 2 minutes)
December 16, 2008 at 6:59 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
B_Fwank (anonymous) says...
Wow, abit, that is a lot like the poster Arch_dude. Do you remember him? I mean even JohnQ, now JimIslander help get that idiot off the boards. Arch_Dude also bragged about being a Architect, thus the Arch in arch_dude.
Good Job, another fraud exposed!
December 16, 2008 at 7:07 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
B_Fwank (anonymous) says...
TP, I mean getserious, you remember arch_dude...dont ya?
He was a deluded psychotic like you, with multiple personas.
A pervasive pattern of grandiosity (in fantasy or behavior), need for admiration, and lack of empathy, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by five (or more) of the following:
- has a grandiose sense of self-importance (e.g., exaggerates achievements and talents, expects to be recognized as superior without commensurate achievements)
- is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love
- believes that he or she is "special" and unique and can only be understood by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people (or institutions)
- requires excessive admiration
- has a sense of entitlement, i.e.,
- is often envious of others or believes that others are envious of him or her
- shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes
- Systematic pathological lying
In a way narcissist can be defined as a psychopath preoccupied with building a false and often grandiose self-image.
December 16, 2008 at 7:17 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
abitskeptical (anonymous) says...
And then there is this misplaced post from Sept 5:
"I am a developer of commerical & residential property and my wife is a local physican. In a nut shell "no worries mate" Our income far exceeds the $400k a yr. Oh, we have 6 open minded, well educated children"
December 16, 2008 at 7:22 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Chicago_Thug (anonymous) says...
What if this journalist had thrown his shoes? Obama would have had to protect them big ears!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tT9_ZI...
Obama is just as corrupt as all his pals in Chicago. Just like the Clintons, slick. Obama is part of the Chicago Democrat Mafia.
Uh Uh Uh Uhbamma Uhhhh Ommmm
December 16, 2008 at 7:28 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
B_Fwank (anonymous) says...
abitskeptical,
You da person! What a pattern of grandiosity.
See above.
December 16, 2008 at 7:33 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
abitskeptical (anonymous) says...
In yet another misplaced post he states:
"As a person who works for a hotel/mixed use developer,..."
& in another post he states that his wife is a boat person from Vietnam!!!!
So, I think we can, with great confidence, disregard everything posted by misplacedinsc.
Phew, what a relief! :)
December 16, 2008 at 7:42 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
B_Fwank (anonymous) says...
Good job on the research abit. I had a feeling he was a Systematic pathological lying;
B_Fwank on December 16, 2008 at 4:14 p.m.
msplacedinsc -
You are a flippin phony & a liar to boot! LMFAO.
You sound like this guy that everyone eventually caught on to, he lied so much he couldnt keep up with the lies - Arch_Dude.
Asta La Vista, bogus, counterfeit, fake, false, fictitious, imitation, phony, pretend, sham!
Posted by B_Fwank on December 16, 2008 at 2:56 p.m. I bet you are a Dr of idiocy, with a PHD in dumbarse.
LOL, what a joke you are, doctor indeed!
___________________________________________
Yep, a phony BS artist (well not that good of an artist) just like getserious.
December 16, 2008 at 7:55 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
abitskeptical (anonymous) says...
Well, there were several "telling" points about his posts indicating he was playing make believe.
So, misplacedinsc we all are waiting for your confession:
"I'm not a real doctor, but I play one...in my mind & on the internet."
December 16, 2008 at 8:10 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
yird (anonymous) says...
Bush remained cool as expected. Obama would probably have tried to talked the shoe into not hitting him.
This is beautiful. All the usual Bush haters with their preponderance of misspelled words and insane rantings are represented on this thread.
You jerks are one big cornucopia of mental manure.
Looking over the posts reveals that your even fighting among yourselves like a bunch of seagulls competing for the best morsels at the landfill.
Anyone care to try and name one progressive government program that is NOT a failure?
December 16, 2008 at 8:49 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
coolfreaknbeans (anonymous) says...
Give msplacedinsc a little credit- He stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night.
December 16, 2008 at 9:30 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
yird (anonymous) says...
Give msplacedinsc a little credit- He stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night.
He must have been making a little OT cleaning the bathrooms.
December 16, 2008 at 9:38 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
iceman1978 (anonymous) says...
Kudos to you young man. You are a hero in the eyes of millions of people. When I saw that video there was one word that came to mind...priceless.
December 17, 2008 at 11:59 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
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