No suspension for Clemson linebacker McDaniel

ConcernedinCHS (anonymous) says...

Wow! Throw a sleeping bag over your girlfriend beat her up then toss her down the stairs...but you can still play football!

Nice job Clemson.

August 27, 2008 at 5:36 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

eyeinthesky (anonymous) says...

Gang rape a stripper at a Party and Get Kicked off the DUKE Lacrosse team!!! That is the way we handle justice around here!

Oh yeah... they were FALSELY accused... hmmmmm... America has a thing we like to call Innocent til proven guilty!!!!

Good job oh Concerned one.. you can get a job in Durham NC.

August 27, 2008 at 8:30 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

jordan (anonymous) says...

Addendum...Three uncharged witnesses refuted part of her story. Police failed to attempt to interview the witnesses and the alleged victim failed to provide requested information to the administrative hearing or make an appearance...stay tuned for the rest of the story.

August 27, 2008 at 9:18 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

Smart_Enough_2_Know_Better (anonymous) says...

"McDaniel agreed to pre-trial intervention, a program for first-time offenders". Does that sound like innocence to you?

I bet if he had actually killed her Clemson would be giving him cash and a new car.

August 27, 2008 at 10:14 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

SOSblows (anonymous) says...

concerned - I'll make you a legit bet, show all of us where DM was convicted of what you posted and i'll pay $1,000 to your favorite charity, if you can't, then you pay the same...agreed?

Thought so.

August 27, 2008 at 10:16 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

tf29301 (anonymous) says...

Clemson as a university does not have the same standard of proof that you would see in a court of law. Playing football is not a given right, if the university deems that the player did not act in the best interest of the school, then they have an obligation to discipline the individual. But, apparently, Clemson is more concerned with winning games. Even NASCAR hands down penalties for actions detrimental to the sport without asking for a DA's evidence and conviction. Of course, if Tommy looks to his dad as an example, then it is not surprising that this player is still playing.

Even the Clemson administration has set a couple of examples....(1) track coach keeps his job after stealing funds from the school and (2) the Clemson president asked the CFO to not disclose money that was set aside....the Enron Accounting standard.

August 27, 2008 at 10:57 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

eyeinthesky (anonymous) says...

If Wrong, Clemson can still be SUED!!!!
Would the person win... depends on the Jury... That is CIVIL Law!!!!

Carolina lets a 2 time PROVEN Law Breaker back on the team and you are this concerned over ALEGATIONS????

Take of the Spurrier Colored glasses and have a dose of reality!

August 27, 2008 at 11:07 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

tf29301 (anonymous) says...

First off, the Garcia charges are a lot different than the charges brought against this player. Would you compare jaywalking with a hit & run by vehicle? I do not agree with how Garcia has acted but, if there is anyone who has never broken the law by drinking underage, then they can talk all they want. However, that is a lot different than physical abuse.

Clemson offered this kid a chance to get a free education and play football. If there are any standards associated with accepting that scholarship (which there are), then Clemson has every right to suspensd the athlete with or without a mountain of evidence.

If the player wants to sue, have at it. Remember, it is not an annoited right to play football where the athlete could prove harm if suspended. Students can be expelled in college for evidence that would not hold up in court, it is a totally different set of rules.

August 27, 2008 at 11:33 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

fishinchef (anonymous) says...

If he took an offer of PTI, there is an assumption of guilt.

The question here does not pertain to McDaniel, but to Tommy Bowden, especially since he puts himself in a hypocritical situation in that he did a public service add against domestic violence.

At a very minimum, gulty of the charge or not, Bowden should have at least suspended him for a patsy game, you know like Spurrier did for Mike Davis??? At a minumum, McDaniel was involved in an altercation in which the police were called and in light of Bowdens statement on the PSA, he (Bowden) dropped the ball and gives the impression that winning is the most important thing.

August 28, 2008 at 12:51 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

ed52 (anonymous) says...

UNBELIEVABLE !

August 28, 2008 at 7:03 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

TsQc (anonymous) says...

So Mike Davis gets his start taken away from him tonight for breaking into a refrigerator to get a FREE drink, and McDaniel plays without reprecussion for punching his gf and throwing her down the stairs?

In my opinion, accepting PTI is admission of guilt.

I hope he gets knocked out of the game. What a loser.

August 28, 2008 at 7:24 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

SOSblows (anonymous) says...

I'll open my bet to anyone, show me where DM was convicted on charges related to this "crime" and its $1,000 to your favorite charity. PTI is not an admission to guilt, go look it up.

USC fans are just upset because DM is a good player and they don't want him to contribute to what could be a historic year for Clemson.

August 28, 2008 at 8:14 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

mauiturtle (anonymous) says...

This is not a Carolina/Clemson issue like many people like to make it out to be (even if it was, underage drinking, which I'm sure 99% of you have done, is in no way, shape, or form equal to or worse than beating up a girl half your size). This is an ethical/moral issue. I think its pretty obvious that McDaniel's hands aren't clean, or he wouldn't be entering PTI. While its not technically an admission of guilt, its just something you don't get into if you're innocent. If there was no evidence to indict or convict him, why would he accept PTI when he could get off clean?

Basically, the kid should be punished in some way by the University, which has made it glaringly obvious that football is more important. If this kid was a walk-on RB you can bet he'd be suspended or kicked off the team. Instead, he's being given a free pass b/c he's fighting for a starting spot at a position with little to no depth in a crucial year for Clemson football.

I've known several girls throughout my life that were assaulted in some way by a friend, boyfriend, relative, etc... and in more than one case it was by a star athlete (none at Clemson or USC) who ended up getting off clean b/c he was an athlete. In some cases it wasn't the first or last time the player assaulted a girl. Its pretty pathetic when one of the major universities in the state looks the other way to protect its football program. They could at least suspend him for the Duke or Citadel game, just to make a symbolic gesture when it doesn't really matter if he plays or not.

August 28, 2008 at 9:03 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

coachken (anonymous) says...

Grow up. The banter back and forth is on the same level as elementry school kids arguing on the playgroung. My dad is smarter, bigger..... or your mom is soooo ugly. The way most schools handle disiplinary problems is an embarassment to the alumni. Clemson and Carolina are not exceptions. What shade of gray would you like to werar today?

August 28, 2008 at 9:05 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

sbs920 (anonymous) says...

c'mon, fantasy5 & fjms

Cat got your little orange tongue? whatta joke

Ohhhhhh! Big Surprise here! Who would have thought. . .

Little Tammy Lives ! ! !

More Orange Kool for the Esso Idiots ! ! !

Cheers ! ! Mmmmmm Mmmmmm Good!

Drink up little kitties. . . Its all good in Tiggerville. . .

August 28, 2008 at 9:40 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

ed52 (anonymous) says...

remember all , the victim didn't call the police. she went to the emergency room . the police report detailed the injuries. spin it any way you want. its clemson's time to be ashamed and the message it sends is not a good one.

August 28, 2008 at 10:17 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

fjms (anonymous) says...

sbs920, what are you talking about?

August 28, 2008 at 10:31 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

fantasy5 (anonymous) says...

sbs, don't you have a game to worry about tonight. Are you worried about where I'm at? Well, I'm on my coffee break at WORK, something you have no conception of apparently. What is orange kool? Were you referring to Kool-aid? I don't remember the last time I had kool-aid, but I have a weird feeling your sitting in front of your tv on your fat lazy &$$ sipping on ORANGE KOOL AID waiting for the clock to strike 12 so you can crack your first PBR so you can be wasted by kick-off and wake up tomorrow morning forgetting who won the game. Keep living the dream sbs.

As for the story above, like many before me have posted, he HAS NOT been proven guilty, and he HAS accepted PTI, which does suggest he is accepting some responsibility, however that does not mean he threw her down stairs or punched her in the face. Last time i got punched in the face I didn't walk away smiling like this young lady, and she certainly wouldn't be smiling if she "got thrown down stairs." Thrown down stairs? Thats a BIG deal, you don't just get up and walk away smiling after you get thrown down stairs, i don't care who you are, that f'n hurts.

So to all you "tater haters," I truly wish you the best of luck tonight, but because DM is playing does not mean there is a fault in the university for not punishing this kid. He had never gotten into trouble before, the facts are all in the gray area, and the school made a decision off of the facts they had.

August 28, 2008 at 11:35 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

idennis (anonymous) says...

Trying to catch up with Penn State and Bama?

August 28, 2008 at 2:08 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )

rebel1 (anonymous) says...

I dont think some people know what drink kool aid means. Funny. Fantasy 5 said, Oh Its the first time he's done anything so he shouldnt be punished. HE BEAT UP A WOMEN. This is the first time that we know what he has done. Alot of things get covered up by tammy. remember puttykats, GLASS HOUSES!!!!!

August 28, 2008 at 3:34 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )