Brown defends Kiawah legislation
U.S. Rep. Henry Brown on Thursday defended a bill that would help future homeowners on the undeveloped southwestern end of Kiawah Island qualify for federally subsidized flood insurance.
The Post and Courier
Henry Brown
Brown, R-S.C., said he introduced the bill last month at the behest of the town of Kiawah Island, and that "I had no idea there was a developer" connected with the legislation.
His bill would remove 84 acres from the Coastal Barrier Resources System. The bill said a developer plans to build homes on the land, which is next to the county's Beachwalker Park.
Congress created the coastal program in 1982 to discourage development on barrier islands. Land inside this zone — 3 million acres from Maine to Texas — is not eligible for federal flood insurance, though development is still allowed.
A Post and Courier Watchdog story this week discussed Brown's bill, prompting numerous e-mails and phone calls from people concerned about the legislation and developers' plans.
Brown said he was concerned, too, though not because of the bill's contents.
Past story
Planned Kiawah development would affect county park; published 08/14/08
"When we read the article, we thought it sounded like we were involved because of a developer," Brown said, adding that the developer's plans were a "surprise," and that "I don't have any personal agenda in this."
Leonard Long, executive vice president of Kiawah Development Partners, said his company approached Brown about the legislation earlier this year.
Long said he and his partners support the bill because they believe future homeowners on the spit should qualify for federal flood insurance just like other homeowners on Kiawah Island.
He said his company plans to build 50 homes on 20 acres. Most of the remaining undeveloped land will be protected by a conservation easement.
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Asked whether Long had approached him about the bill, Brown replied, "Who's Leonard Long?" and then said that Long contacted his staff. "I know he had an interest in it; I thought he was an agent of the city."
The bill doesn't mention Kiawah
Development Partners but does say the spit's landowner wants to do a low-density development, and that because of this, the bill would improve the area's ecological health.
Big bucks are at stake - for the developers as well as future homeowners. People with houses in the Coastal Barrier zone must buy flood insurance from private companies. That can cost $40,000 a year or more for a $900,000 home, compared with less than $2,000 for government-backed flood insurance.
Meanwhile, the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service says the Coastal Barrier Resources System saved taxpayers $1.3 billion by preventing government spending on land at high risk from storm damage and erosion.
Brown said the main intent of his bill was to bring federal law in line with state law.
For years, state law prohibited development on the land by Capt. Sam's Inlet on Kiawah, but in 1999, the state removed that development prohibition. "We were under the assumption that we were complying with South Carolina law ... that we were adopting South Carolina's boundaries," he said.
Brown also said his bill would add land to the Coastal Barrier system. The bill calls for the inclusion of 25 acres of high ground farther inland, including a spot where the Kiawah Island Parkway cuts through, and 153 acres of marsh.
Brown said a public hearing will be held Sept. 10, in Washington, D.C., on the legislation.
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eatmorecollards (anonymous) says...
Sounds like a crock to me. One things for sure. Henry Brown wont have my vote again.
August 15, 2008 at 6:06 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Native_Ink (anonymous) says...
What a clown! Some of the stupidity in this story made me laugh at loud, but the most ridiculous part for me was how Rep. Brown and the developers wanted to put a roadway and amarsh into Coastal Barrier system. Yes, let's not give federal flood insurance to people who build on top of the road and in the marsh. What a joke.
August 15, 2008 at 6:06 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
eatmorecollards (anonymous) says...
Good job P&C for bringing this to public attention before it was sliped through. I wonder how it came about that the state saw it benefitial lift the ban. Tell us who was responsible and I wont vote for them either.
August 15, 2008 at 6:32 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
amylrod (anonymous) says...
Johnq2, You said it all. Great post!
August 15, 2008 at 7:07 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
DoaMM (anonymous) says...
Since he has no "personal interest" in this, how long do you think it will take him to be invited to one of those nice, new, big houses that are gonna be built there?
I give it no longer than a month.
No personal interest my a**...
August 15, 2008 at 7:31 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
theronce (anonymous) says...
Well said, JohnQ2. Low development area @ 4 houses per acre? True...too much smoke and mirrors going on here.
August 15, 2008 at 7:35 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
jeff61 (anonymous) says...
I have no plans to vote for Brown this Nov...I hope his staff reads the comment section.
August 15, 2008 at 7:48 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
watchdog (anonymous) says...
Throw him in with the Ravenel's, they are all crooks, these good ole boy trash. Let's move forward people. We are like a third world country, what is wrong with our state?
August 15, 2008 at 7:52 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
justjerry (anonymous) says...
What really stinks is that for someone with a house on Kiawah to be able to get away with only paying $2000 per year for flood insurance. I have to pay $600 per year for flood insurance for a house in Hanahan that is nowhere near water and worth about $125K. For these folks to be underwritten for such a inexpensive amount in what is truly a high risk area is ridiculous. I have no problem with paying flood insurance for property that needs it but when I am forced to pay it for 50 year old houses that have never flooded because FEMA decided that they are at risk in 2002 is effing stupid.
As for Henry B's part in this situation, I think that everyone else has summed it up pretty well.
August 15, 2008 at 8:05 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
karmann (anonymous) says...
So, He didn't fully check out the info before he introduced a bill. Not much of a confidence builder.
August 15, 2008 at 8:10 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
crankyyankee (anonymous) says...
When you consider the average South Carolina voters intelligence, Brown is a shoe-in for re-election!
August 15, 2008 at 8:24 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
LocalHero (anonymous) says...
snip:
"Leonard Long, executive vice president of Kiawah Development Partners, said his company approached Brown about the legislation earlier this year."
snip:
Asked whether Long had approached him about the bill, Brown replied, "Who's Leonard Long?" and then said that Long contacted his staff. "I know he had an interest in it; I thought he was an agent of the city."
The bill doesn't mention Kiawah
snip:
Big bucks are at stake...
What a sleazeball! Note too that the public hearing is being held in DC. How are we the public supposed to attend that one?
August 15, 2008 at 8:24 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Oceanlover (anonymous) says...
Ah don't know whatchall are complainin' about. Disyeah is jus' how bidness is done heah. If you don't like it move to some communis state like taxachusetts.
August 15, 2008 at 8:34 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
drp7773 (anonymous) says...
I love it, a whole article of him explaining why he did it and nowhere saying how he is going to stop it.
August 15, 2008 at 8:53 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
coahtrtaylor (anonymous) says...
What really stinks is that for someone with a house on Kiawah to be able to get away with only paying $2000 per year for flood insurance. I have to pay $600 per year for flood insurance for a house in Hanahan that is nowhere near water and worth about $125K. For these folks to be underwritten for such a inexpensive amount in what is truly a high risk area is ridiculous. I have no problem with paying flood insurance for property that needs it but when I am forced to pay it for 50 year old houses that have never flooded because FEMA decided that they are at risk in 2002 is effing stupid.
You cannot make a judgment based on the cost of flood insurance for your home in Hanahan against the home in Kiawah. Flood insurance is based on the elevation of the land, the base flood elevation for the area, the vents in your home, and also the level at which your first floor is built. Your home in Hanahan was probably built at a time when there were not any restrictions that your first floor could be below base flood, but homes recently built (within the last 20 years) have to be built with the first floor above base flood, and not by just a foot but at least 4 feet. Also a newer home would have more ventilation than an older home. The more ventilation a home has, (the ability for water to pass through without obstruction), the higher off the ground the first floor the lower the base rate for flood insurance will cost.
You should do some research into flood insurance before you go blowing up about something that you obviously do not understand.
August 15, 2008 at 9:20 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
guidedbystewart (anonymous) says...
This bill is a bad idea anyway you slice it. But somehow my BS detector is maxing out while I read this article? Wonder why?
August 15, 2008 at 9:25 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
CHRISJIII (anonymous) says...
It's no surprise that Henry Brown is being exposed as a liar and crook that goes without saying. What is surprising is that this newspaper is reporting it.
August 15, 2008 at 9:30 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
alexdog58 (anonymous) says...
If this really bothers you, don't just post your feeling on this website. Let him know how you feel and contact his office. Whether we like it or not, he is our voice in Congress.
August 15, 2008 at 9:31 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Bones (anonymous) says...
Unbelieveable, I thought that he was at least "semi-honest". Well, just goes to show you that diapers are like politicians, they need to be changed frequently, and for the exact same reasons! Vote them all out, get fresh blood in.
August 15, 2008 at 9:36 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
efxed (anonymous) says...
I question the $2,000 a year for flood insurance on Kiawah. Is that an accurate estimate? I just built a house on Johns Island that has the first floor elevated by 12 feet (7ft above base flood) with break away walls in the garage area and I am paying just under $4,000 for flood insurance. This policy only covers property damage up to $250,000. I'm not saying I'm paying too much but I do wonder if the Kiawah example is somewhat a little on the low side.
August 15, 2008 at 9:48 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
bigwhip (anonymous) says...
I put a copy of this article on top of my lie detector and it went bonkers; and it wasn't even plugged in. It doesn't know which party is lying. Ketner has my vote unless he kills this travesty of a bill.
August 15, 2008 at 9:48 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
mkris (anonymous) says...
How much was Brown paid to introduce this bill to congress?
How much did Kiawah and its developers pay to State Senators and House members to get the change in State laws?
August 15, 2008 at 9:48 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
iceman1978 (anonymous) says...
I hope this stays fresh in people's minds on election day. We should have voted him out a long time ago.
August 15, 2008 at 9:50 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
livinlife (anonymous) says...
I haven't done enough research to make an educated decision about this situtation. But, I don't think it's fair for you all to make assumptions about Long or the rest of Kiawah Development Partners (KDP). I seriously doubt many of you have ever seen Kiawah. If you had, you would see that Kiawah has been responsibly and slowly developed with conservation in mind. You can't compare Kiawah to IOP or Wild Dunes or any other barrier island along the SC coast. This Brown guy sounds like a crook. How the hell does he not know Leonard Long?!?! Either Brown is an idiot, a liar, or both. Also, please educate on coastal insurance before you rant on and on . . .
August 15, 2008 at 9:53 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
mkris (anonymous) says...
JUST A LITTLE BQACKGROUND ON THIS LOOSER: Committee Assignments: Natural Resources (Supports drilling off the coast), Transportation, and Infrastructure (Supports building more on Kiawaha)Veterans' Affairs
His Cycle Fundraising, 2007 - 2008
Raised: $775,280
Spent: $207,593
Cash on Hand: $1,339,733
Debts: $0
Last Report: Monday, June 30, 2008
Top 5 Contributors, 2007-2008
Lpa Group $10,000
National Auto Dealers Assn $10,000
Waccamaw Wireless $9,200
Falk-Griffin Foundation $7,100
Y Partnership $6,900
Top 5 Industries, 2007-2008
Real Estate $60,905 (SURPRISED?)
Lawyers/Law Firms $26,750
Health Professionals $22,000
Retired $21,920
Construction Services $21,000 (MORE SURPRISES?)
August 15, 2008 at 9:55 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
yj (anonymous) says...
The flood insurance figure for Kiawah homes does not sound correct. I have a client out on Seabrook who is paying around $6000 a year for insurance for a 2400 square foot home, which is small for the islands. I'd like to know who's actually paying $2000 a year for insurance.
August 15, 2008 at 9:56 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
WhoCares (anonymous) says...
I agree that Brown is wrong and should withdraw the bill. However, don't forget that our good buddy (yes, gay pun intended) Lindsey Graham is sponsoring similar legislation in the Senate. Don't just post your opposition here, go to their websites: http://brown.house.gov/Contact/writeb...
&
http://lgraham.senate.gov/public/inde... and let them know you oppose this action! While you're at it, take the time to let other congressmen and senators know how you feel as well.
August 15, 2008 at 10:07 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
KidYendor (anonymous) says...
Henry Brown must reverse his actions and the damage done by his involvement in broadening federal flood insurance. To save himself from the public's indignation of him he must immediately introduce a bill to get one of the most heinous actions of Congress off the books. He must introduce a bill to abolish federally subsidized flood insurance, probably one of the most sickening, ill-thought, and mindless government legislation ever created. I like rich people, I like to hang out and have dinner with rich people and ride in their cars, but I don't want welfare insurance provided for the rich for million dollar homes in the sand. Barrier ocean islands are not the place to build homes you idiots in Congress, do you read us LOUD AND CLEAR?
August 15, 2008 at 10:14 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
oldglory (anonymous) says...
Johnq, Thomas - good comments, good info. Thank you.
I wondered to myself what sort of man a congressman is who makes a stupid statement such as "I had no idea there was a developer" connected with the legislation, and so unintelligent to say "When we read the article, we thought it sounded like we were involved because of a developer," Brown said, adding that the developer's plans were a "surprise," and that "I don't have any personal agenda in this." Good boy, Mr. Brown, just skip over your homework in order that you will appear untouched. Oh right!
He even smiles like a crook! And like many of you said, he makes no mention of not voting for the bill, nor distancing himself because there -appears- to be collusion here. Do the right thing for your constituents, rich or poor, Mr. Brown.
SC needs some honest folk representing them!
August 15, 2008 at 10:30 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
bigwhip (anonymous) says...
What about the Mayor & Council of Kiawah? They made the request....who is behind this political move? I think the Mayor will be in Washington to tell the committee why this is a good idea come 09/10. The mayor's e-mail address is
wgwpsw@gmail.com
August 15, 2008 at 10:52 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
MooMoo (anonymous) says...
Excellent posts - like your idea KidYendor. Just anohter example of blatant government waste and taxpayer abuse.
Never liked Henry - always thought he was the classic bring home the pork (which I adamantly oppose) politician.
August 15, 2008 at 11:20 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
bill14773 (anonymous) says...
I hope that Rep Brown pulls the legislation now that he "should" know it is not for the people...that it is a smaller version of the "bridge to nowhere" situation. I am having a hard time remaining a republican
August 15, 2008 at 12:41 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Neponset (anonymous) says...
Lvinlife raises red flags - registered on Aug. 15 and has one comment which is pro Brown. It always amuses me that when the big boys come under fire these ringers crawl out from rocks..
August 15, 2008 at 12:52 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
justjerry (anonymous) says...
Posted by coahtrtaylor on August 15, 2008 at 9:20 a.m. (Suggest removal)
"You cannot make a judgment based on the cost of flood insurance for your home in Hanahan against the home in Kiawah. Flood insurance is based on the elevation of the land, the base flood elevation for the area, the vents in your home, and also the level at which your first floor is built. Your home in Hanahan was probably built at a time when there were not any restrictions that your first floor could be below base flood, but homes recently built (within the last 20 years) have to be built with the first floor above base flood, and not by just a foot but at least 4 feet. Also a newer home would have more ventilation than an older home. The more ventilation a home has, (the ability for water to pass through without obstruction), the higher off the ground the first floor the lower the base rate for flood insurance will cost.
You should do some research into flood insurance before you go blowing up about something that you obviously do not understand."
Please do not question my undertanding, it is far superior to yours for my personal situation. This is a home that is well above any flood elevation and has no possibility of flooding. There are no vents or other construction elements to mitigate flood damage because the only possible way that this house will flood is in a catastrophe that will cover the entire tricounty area more than the broken levies covered New Orleans. This is a home that has been there for nearly 50 years and has never, I repeat so that YOU are able to understand, NEVER had a flood issue.
I have been in the process of fighting this remapping with FEMA and when the representative from engineering firm (that I am having to pay for out of my pocket) came to do the flood elevation report he actually laughed when he got out of his truck. I will continue to fight FEMA on their new flood mapping because they obviously did not come and look at properties when they were doing this project.
It sounds to me like you enjoy paying flood insurance for property that will never have a flood issue but I personally do not.
I am able to understand fully that the $600 per year that I am forced to pay out is merely there to increase the size of the insurance pool so that those that are truly at risk of flooding can pay less. I also understand that those with expensive homes on barrier islands are being subsidized by my payment for taking a risk that any idiot would be able to understand is significantly higher. I also understand that someone with a house on Kiawah is going to have a significantly higher rebuilding cost per square foot than this little ranch house in Hanahan.
The National Flood insurance program as it is now is a scam, that is something that I obviously DO understand.
August 15, 2008 at 12:57 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Neponset (anonymous) says...
Justjerry
Several years ago, I was notified that the game had changed and I would need flood insurance because I had an equity credit line. So I called the surveyor who did the work for my closing and he did a survey for flood insurance. Land is 15 feet and first floor is 17 feet. My flood insurance is about $300 per year. Not a bad idea to have this insurance, since the surge for a cat. 5 might be 20-30 feet. I live near Ashley river.
August 15, 2008 at 1:27 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
rambob (anonymous) says...
What a crock!!!And why hold the public meeting in Washington instead of SC where his constituents are? Maybe because working class schmucks can't afford to go to DC but the upper crust elite that want the free ride can?!? Just keep in mind election day is approaching!
August 15, 2008 at 2:56 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
guidedbystewart (anonymous) says...
Posted by justjerry on August 15, 2008 at 12:57 p.m. (Suggest removal)
"I have been in the process of fighting this remapping with FEMA and when the representative from engineering firm (that I am having to pay for out of my pocket) came to do the flood elevation report he actually laughed when he got out of his truck. I will continue to fight FEMA on their new flood mapping because they obviously did not come and look at properties when they were doing this project."
justjerry,
I know that you are an arrogant know it all, but I hate to break it to you, but someone doesn't not have to physically come out to survey your property to know its elevation. Like you told coachtaylor, please do not question my understanding, it is far superior to your on this subject matter.
There is a process called LIDAR (Light Detection and Ranging), which can measure elevation depths from a plane by using lasers. The new FEMA maps will be based on this technology and this technology is very accurate. As a simplification, LIDAR works in much the same way that a depth finder does from a fishing boat. But here is some more info on it.
http://www.csc.noaa.gov/products/scco...
For FEMA standards, the data needs to be within 2 foot accuracy, with a physical survey only being within 1 foot accuracy. Though, depending on the county, the LIDAR accuracy could be even higher, though it is not guaranteed.
As far as I am know, the new FEMA maps are not out yet. I know that they are not out yet for Dorchester County but I am not sure about Charleston or Berkeley Counties. The new maps should be out by next year, but by 2010 at the most. While old FEMA maps where unreliable, and varied from area to area, these maps, while varied from area to area, should be much more accurate.
Also, depending on your insurance company, may not accept you own personal survey, but there are some that do. Yet, once you have spent the money on the survey, the lawyers and the time, you should have waited for the new FEMA maps to come out, and since there is only a one foot accuracy deferential, you are probably just wasting a bunch of money.
August 15, 2008 at 3:20 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
iceman1978 (anonymous) says...
Posted by yj on August 15, 2008 at 9:56 a.m. (Suggest removal)
The flood insurance figure for Kiawah homes does not sound correct. I have a client out on Seabrook who is paying around $6000 a year for insurance for a 2400 square foot home, which is small for the islands. I'd like to know who's actually paying $2000 a year for insurance.
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I pay around $3,500 per year for 1,800 sq ft on James Island which is a little further back from the ocean than on Seabrook so $6k per year sounds about right.
August 15, 2008 at 5:09 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
mkris (anonymous) says...
Top Contributors
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Election Cycle: 2008
Total of itemized contribution records of $200 or more: $409,227. To search these 450 contributions for this member, click here.
Contributor Total
Lpa Group $10,000
National Auto Dealers Assn $10,000
Waccamaw Wireless $9,200
Falk-Griffin Foundation $7,100
Y Partnership $6,900
National Beer Wholesalers Assn $6,000
Scana Corp $6,000
Nucor Corp $5,500
American Trucking Assns $5,000
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Butler Properties $5,000
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Mazzetta Co $5,000
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Recreational Fishing Alliance $5,000
August 15, 2008 at 5:12 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
mkris (anonymous) says...
Top Contributors (LOOK AT ALL THE BUILDING & REALTORS)
Congressman Henry Brown 2005 - 2006
Contributor Total
Waccamaw Wireless $10,700
National Assn of Home Builders $10,000
National Assn of Realtors $10,000
National Auto Dealers Assn $10,000
National Beer Wholesalers Assn $10,000
Container Maintenance Corp $8,400
Credit Union National Assn $8,000
Lpa Group $7,200
Island Realty $7,000
Falk-Griffin Foundation $6,000
Nelson, Mullins et al $6,000
Cdm of Charleston $5,999
Batten & Moore $5,700
American Trucking Assns $5,571
David G Jennings Attorney $5,200
Gramling Brothers $5,000
Mvp Group International $5,000
National Fisheries Institute $5,000
Veterans of Foreign Wars $5,000
American Dental Assn $4,500
BellSouth Corp $4,500
Duke Energy $4,500
Fluor Corp $4,500
August 15, 2008 at 5:14 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
mkris (anonymous) says...
IS THIS ENOUGH, OR LOOK AT HIS ALL TIME BEST CONTRIBUTORS, REALTORS AND BUILDERS
Top Contributors
Henry Brown
Contributer Total
National Assn of Realtors $40,000
National Auto Dealers Assn $39,500
Credit Union National Assn $36,999
National Beer Wholesalers Assn $33,000
American Medical Assn $28,000
BellSouth Corp $26,750
American Trucking Assns $25,625
National Assn of Home Builders $24,500
LPA Group $21,700
Scana Corp $21,050
Waccamaw Wireless $19,900
American Dental Assn $19,000
National Assn for Uniformed Services $15,500
Progress Energy $15,500
American Physical Therapy Assn $14,500
Philip Morris $14,500
Nelson, Mullins et al $13,250
United Parcel Service $12,750
Cdm of Charleston $12,662
American Defense International $12,000
Island Realty $12,000
August 15, 2008 at 5:15 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
zoomru (anonymous) says...
HENRY............
YOU realize that you are being taken to the woodshed !? Don't YOU??
You can gain some sort of redemption if you would come CLEAN with the RAILROAD shenanigans that are going down right NOW !!
The Post and Courier left you out to dry on this ONE; SO ....if you would like to shine a light on the "RAIL" Truth ...it would be mighty kind of YOU !!
When RAILROADS start giving away whole FORESTS....it just sound too good to be TRUE !!
We wouldn't want new technology to be overlooked when it comes time to MAP OUT our mass transit needs here in OUR STATE ??
YOU do want OUR state to lead the nation instead of FOLLOWING.....don't you ??!!
August 15, 2008 at 5:36 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
rollo (anonymous) says...
I'm disappointed that Brown is not pushing the FFI the other way. But I'm not surprised.
Voters took a turn in the direction of the "Nanny" state years ago, and this is where it brought us.
August 15, 2008 at 8:07 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Itsataxstupid (anonymous) says...
My previous post was removed beCAUSE I TOLD THE TRUTH ABOUT MR LONG AND THE BEACH COMPANY .....GUESS THEY CONTROL THE P&C TOO!!!
August 15, 2008 at 8:14 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
wonderdog (anonymous) says...
Henry, you didn't know a developer was involved, and you don't know who Leonard Long is? You are either stupid or you are lying.....I don't know which is worse for your constituents. Kill the bill, or things will become even worse for you as word of this spreads. I am embarrassed for you.
August 15, 2008 at 8:46 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
mkris (anonymous) says...
Of course he's lying... he opened his mouth didn't he?
Brown is an embarassment. Big builders and Big Oil.
He needs an oil derck in his backyard.
August 16, 2008 at 1:51 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
scienceguy (anonymous) says...
If you oppose this legislation, contact Leonard L. Long, Jr. at:
Executive Vice President
Kiawah Development Partners
Two North Adger's Wharf
Charleston, SC 29401
email: llong@kiawahisland.com
telephone: 843 958 8472
August 17, 2008 at 12:16 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
scienceguy (anonymous) says...
If this Bill is not passed, I doubt that many people will be able to afford homeowner's insurance on this spit. To give you a comparison, I have a friend on Dauphin Island who lost his home to Iris and then again to Katrina. He no longer could obtain either National Flood Insurance and private carriers wanted 3,000 a month for flood insurance alone. He rebuilt his beach house, but it is no longer a 4,000 square foot vacation villa. It's now a 1200 square foot "cottage on stilts" paid for and self-insured
August 17, 2008 at 11:31 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
mkris (anonymous) says...
Did you know that one of the Board of Directors of Kiawah Development partners is also on the Kiawah nature Conservency that is schedualed to testify in support of this Bill? LIKE HENRY BROWN DIDN'T KNOW ABOUT THEM... what a crock.
August 18, 2008 at 10:54 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
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