Widow of firefighter sues sofa store

Posted by lillycollette on April 12, 2008 at 5:47 a.m. (Suggest removal)

My best regards and wishes in this law suit. While it would raise the costs of furniture, it would also raise the possibility of surviving home fires. What a shame that industry standards have not already been raised before this day came.

Posted by UberBlitzkrieg on April 12, 2008 at 7:11 a.m. (Suggest removal)

And if it where anyone of you goofballs... you would be doing the same damn thing. You all need to put a cork in it and let it ride the lightning... because IT WILL NOT get thrown out.

Thomas1776... we should meet back here in a year so I can see what you have to say then.

Posted by moonpie on April 12, 2008 at 7:35 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I agree UB, someone is going to pay and rightfully should. I also think that if these families get paid then they should give back the 2 mil or more they got from the public bearing out their hearts to a traggic event. This is why I held out giving one dime! Which is very sad because I knew this day was coming. But I wonder why none of the suits are against the City of Chas? They are as much to blame as anyone.

Posted by jifdeng3 on April 12, 2008 at 8:19 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Sue the City and Rusty.

Posted by lillycollette on April 12, 2008 at 9:11 a.m. (Suggest removal)

My goodness! Thank you Mayor, I'm very proud of your last comment. See--I knew you had it in you.

Posted by mac0cm4 on April 12, 2008 at 9:33 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Frivolous lawsuit. The city is the one that should be sued for negligence

Posted by ImplantedYankee on April 12, 2008 at 9:55 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Why do sofas burn? Because they're made out of things that burn. Why aren't they made fire-retardant? Because there's no law saying they should be, and no market for such a product (or someone would already be selling them). What's more, is that firemen KNOW that sofas burn.

There's no denying that this is tragic. I was moved like everyone else when I heard the awful news. Still, I don't see grounds for this suit. I think the tragedy of this event is blinding most of us to the truth that we all know: the firemen went into a burning building they knew was structurally unstable, full of flammable sofas, and after the people they went in there to save had already left. Responsibility for the tragedy falls on whomever was in command at the time the order to enter the building was given and whatever training that person and others involved had that compelled such an order.

With regard to making sofas "fire retardant", let me remind everyone that it would not have made a difference if every sofa in the place had been made that way. First of all, it's typically only the shell that is treated. Here, whole sofas were burning. Second, "retardant" does not mean that it will not burn -- only that you can put a flame to it and it will stop burning when the flame is removed. It was never meant to mean that a sofa in the middle of a blazing inferno will remain unburnt and cool as a cucumber. It's not kryptonite, for crying out loud.

Posted by bjp99 on April 12, 2008 at 10:55 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Isn't there a law or something along that effect keeping the families from suing the City of Charleston?

Also...does this mean that I can sue car manufactors for not making my car fire retardent if my loved one died in a car fire?

Posted by firefightersforthetruth on April 12, 2008 at 11:44 a.m. (Suggest removal)

PEOPLE! You must realize that in these lawsuits, not only will the manufactures be held accountable for their disregard for the safety of THIER product, Rusty and the Mayor will be required to testify under oath to what took place that tragic day, but also what led up to the Chief being, ultimately, responsible for their deaths. Under oath I am quite sure Rusty Thomas will not only incriminate himself but also the City of Charleston and Mayor Joe.

This is the only legal means available at this time to get the parties involved into court. Unfortunately as it stands the city can not be held responsible in court because of loop holes in the law. Under oath Rusty has proven before that he does not know when to keep his mouth close. He will be the person of his own undoing.

SO FOR ALL THE NAY SAYERS OUT THEIR, WATCH AS EVENT UNFOLD, BECAUSE YOU WILL ALL BE EDUCATED TO HOW BADLY THE CITY OF CHARLESTON AND IT'S CLASS ONE FIRE DEPARTMENT HAS BEEN RUN. TRUTHS AND FACTS! NOTHING ELSE FOLKS! YOU CAN NOT CHANGE OR TWIST THE TRUTH. YOU MIGHT LIKE TO NOT BELIEVE, BUT IT WILL ALL BECOME APPARENT AS THE FUTURE NEARS.

MAY GOD BLESS MY BROTHERS WHO GAVE THEIR LIVES IN THE LINE OF DUTY ON 6-18-07! MAY THEIR FAMILIES FIND PEACE IN THE FACTS THAT THEY WERE ALL HONARABLE MEN.

Posted by heartwesterly on April 12, 2008 at 12:51 p.m. (Suggest removal)

So are you saying that the widow is greedy? She has lost everything, and you begrude her some money. You have no idea who she is or what her circumstances are. How dare you pass judgement on her! For the record, it was $7 million divided 9 ways. Which, I might add, is less than her husband would have made over his working lifetime. Those who donated thank you....but it doesn't come with strings attached. You don't get to dictate how the families spend it. You have no right to question their financial situations.

The Families of the fallen have not been left alone to grieve. Give them some space.

Learn your facts before you speak. Furniture is full of toxic chemicals that furniture manufactors KNOWINGLY use! Do the research.

Sofa Super Store was overcrowded with the toxic furniture and the emergency exits were chained shut, cutting off any exit had the firefighter made it that far. And that owner has made it off scott free so far.

There exists equipment, training, and technology to keep firefighters alive in almost any circumstance. Firefighting is the only profession were death is expected and easily accepted. People are real quick to assume it was an accident and couldn't have been prevented. If this had happened in ANY other profession, there would have been much more scrutiny and less politics.

So yes, the City deserves to be charged with wrongful death. Training, leadership, and equipment failed the Charleston 9.

For those of you who are tired of hearing about the CFDs problems, vote Riley out of office. Hold Rusty and Riley accountable for change. Stand behind the people who put their lives on the line for you.

Posted by Carolina_Politics on April 12, 2008 at 12:57 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Mr. Baity died doing his duty as a firefighter. Clearly, it is a dangerous job full of excessive risk and deaths on the job are to be expected. Nobody is to blame for Mr. Baity’s death. I find this lawsuit on behalf of his family to be despicable. His family is trying to cash in on his death, plain and simple.

http://www.carolinapoliticsonline.com

Posted by SomeTruthPlease on April 12, 2008 at 3:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)

"This lawsuit is not about monetary damages for the Baity family, or Motley Rice wouldn't be interested in it."

What you're saying, Mayor, is that Ron Motley's firm doesn't take cases that ARE about monetary damages? He's a fabulous man, but didn't become a lawyer to do a bunch of Pro Bono work, I can assure you. His firm is what it is because he is ALL ABOUT monetary damages...you go to Ron Motley when you want to win millions, just as you would go to Andy Savage when you want the best defense money can buy. Reform the entire manufacturing process? Find me a flame-retardant sofa. Everything but the fabric itself smolders like a chunk of hot coal. Throw your sofa out, and get yourself a hammock, because you make no sense.

Posted by heartwesterly on April 12, 2008 at 4:07 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Carolina_Politics
"Mr. Baity died doing his duty as a firefighter. Clearly, it is a dangerous job full of excessive risk and deaths on the job are to be expected. Nobody is to blame for Mr. Baity’s death."

You obviously know ABSOLUTELY KNOWING about firefighter procedure or tactics. Have missed the news for the last ten months? Do you not see how lack of leadership in this department, lack of proper equipment and training caused this tragedy? How about that there exists FEDERAL STANDARDS for firefighting, that Charleston KNOWINGLY ignored then and still ignores today.

These men did not have to die. If this had been some construction site accident and 9 workers died, you bet there would have been a massive investigation, into why proper safety measures weren't used. The employer would have been held accountable. Would you have then said how its a pity they died, but they were just doing their job, and should expect to have to die for it? How is the SSS fire different? These men have just as much a right to safety on the job as anyone else. Firefighter has come a looooong way over the years. They don't just run into burning building haphazardly. You sound like all you know about firefighting is from the movie, "Backdraft". Well wake up buddy, that's just a movie, not the reality of firefighting.

Other departments in the area employ safety procedures, equipment and training that the City doesn't. Why not? Because no one make them. King Riley and his trusty side kick Rusty rule this City and no one is brave enough to stand up to him.

Stand behind your Firefighters. Push to give them what they deserve. Remember the day may come when YOUR life may depend on their training, equipment, and procedures.

Posted by mjklow on April 12, 2008 at 4:24 p.m. (Suggest removal)

This is exactly why I did not donate a dime to the fund for the nine, despite having uncles that are Firefighters. I knew these people would sue. Gotta love America, sometimes I wonder why I serve in the military.

Posted by mdtpace on April 12, 2008 at 4:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I can't decide what's more pathetic, the lawsuits or the Monday morning quarterbacks who come on here to point fingers and assign blame. It's the furniture industry, it's the sofa manufacturer, it's the builder, it's the fire door company, its......Idiots

Posted by heartwesterly on April 12, 2008 at 4:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)

IF you don't care about the issue, don't bother to comment. Its a waste of space.

Posted by heartwesterly on April 12, 2008 at 4:58 p.m. (Suggest removal)

mjklow,

I am absolutely disgusted by your comment. I have participated with many charity events that benefits the veterans and given my own money to help a "war" widow get back on her feet. And I never would have dreamed to tell her how to spend it, or account for it with me. I did this even though the military has better pay, better benefits, and better resources available than my husbands gets in the fire department.

I have always valued and respected military personnel, and the job that they do. So do the firefighters that I know. I just cannot believe that you would say that.

People don't care about each other anymore. People don't care about what's right, only what makes money. And People only care when it involves their own money. If it takes hitting big companies in the pocketbook to make them see how dangerous their way of doing business is, so be it. If it takes a lawsuit to make sure that no other firefighters die the same way, I hope she sues the pants off them.

Posted by FunandGames on April 12, 2008 at 5:45 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Carolina Politics, you make me want to puke. It is hard to believe that there are people in this world who are as ignorant as you.

Why is it acceptable for a firefighter to die in the line of duty? It's not acceptable and it never will be. It is a dangerous job, but one that can be done with calculated risks. A two bit junk dealer's insured merchandise will never be worth the life of another person.

I would rather watch my own house burn to the ground than to hear the bagpipes at another firefighter's funeral.

Heather, keep up the fight and don't listen to the ignorant. There are lots of us who think you are doing the right thing.

Posted by Perspective on April 12, 2008 at 6:06 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Sofas burn.

A bunch of sofas burn a bunch.

Buildings burn. Buildings collapse.

Firefighting is dangerous. Always has been.

Greed is ugly.

Posted by UberBlitzkrieg on April 12, 2008 at 6:32 p.m. (Suggest removal)

We as firefighters chose this profession. We fight fires, run EMS calls, respond to false alarms, and a whole lot of CRAP in between. Yes people say it is a dangerous profession! ABSOLUTELY! IT is a tragedy that 9 Charleston Firefighters, my brothers, died doing their job. DO NOT SAY They died doing what they loved. THAT IS COMPLETE BS! They died a horrible and tragic death that I would not wish on anyone.

NOW... you have to ask yourself could it have been prevented? You can monday morning quarterback that horse to death and never get a straight answer.

Fact is these fellows went in looking for a person that was supposedly trapped and also to fight a fire in a building that was burning. I WOULD GUARANTEE That all the nay sayers would be speaking a different tune if it was their butt that was in the building trapped, or a family member, waiting for one of the Charleston 9 to save them.

We as public servants can never satisfy everyone. People either complain they think we never do anything, or it to 30 minutes for the FD to get to my house, or complain we run EMS calls and spend "to much time" in the street.

The FD's of the Tri-County area are some of the best in the state of South Carolina and this nation. Bad things happen for various reasons and those things get rectified in court.

If this makes the furniture industry change their way of making furniture... then GO FOR IT.

If this makes the unscrupulous store owner who did not have sprinklers even though his insurance company required he have them... then GO FOR IT.

If this makes the Charleston FD change tactics to better help their firefighters in the future... then GO FOR IT.

Fact is we are less 9 men that should not have died. 9 families lost a major part of their income. Dozens of children lost their fathers. 9 wives and girlfriends lost their beloved.

Mad?! YOUR DAMN RIGHT I AM MAD!!

I am even more mad at the idiots on hear that talk trash about it being a dangerous job but they died doing their job.

Tell you what? Why don't you man up and get your butt in a set of gear and lets see if you can take the heat?! I bet you would piss yourself smelling the smoke!

Until you walk in their shoes...

Enough said.

Posted by magoo on April 12, 2008 at 9:03 p.m. (Suggest removal)

mayor are u kidding if it wasnt about money NO Lawyer would take a case, Money is the main objective of Lawyers representing clients.

Posted by ImplantedYankee on April 12, 2008 at 9:53 p.m. (Suggest removal)

All we have here is a lot of emotion and very little substance. Those that support this frivolous lawsuit accuse the critics of monday-morning quarterbacking, but isn't that what they're doing by criticizing how furniture is made and stored? What do you propose sofas be made out of? Can you think of a single substance that could form a sofa that would not burn? Heartwesterly: I invite YOU to do some research as well. Almost EVERYTHING produces toxic fumes when it burns. If this was a Toys'r'Us, would they be suing Fisher Price? If it was a Best Buy, would they be suing Sony? Get real.

You're correct in that I do not know the financial situations of those affected, but: A. I never brought it up. B. in the context of this discussion, I do not care. They could be living in boxes and starving and still would not change the fact that this lawsuit lacks merit.

Posted by auger on April 12, 2008 at 11:42 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Do you realize the implications of this law suit? If they get a nickel out of this, be very afraid. This will open the floodgates for every fire which results in death or injury of a firefighter, for their families to sue the owner for damages. They know the job is dangerous! They know they are risking their lives! Fire IS dangerous!

Don't try to get rich from your lost loved ones passion and job choice. Remember the loss and don't try to profit from it. He would be ashamed.

Posted by FunandGames on April 13, 2008 at 7:24 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Auger, join Carolina Politics. You act as though it's okay for a firefighter to die because "firefighting is dangerous, fire is dangerous".

BULL S@#T

It's not okay. Driving to work is dangerous and so is rock climbing. Does that make it okay when someone gets killed in a car accident or falls off a rock? They made the decision to get in the car or to go climbing didn't they?

Motley Rice is no small time firm. For those of you who say the suit is without merit, I would really like to know how you stack up against the attorneys in Mt. P.

Posted by ImplantedYankee on April 13, 2008 at 8:18 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Lots of lawsuits lacking merit go forward. Lots of court cases in general are the same. That's why lawyers bear such a negative stereotype in our society.

Posted by JohnS on April 13, 2008 at 8:23 a.m. (Suggest removal)

I feel bad now I gave to the fund. I won't do it again. Some of these family members are just plain greedy. Your love one did a dangerous job. Take your million and half plus you were given by generous people and move on. The folks are tired of this.

As a property owner do you have to sign a disclaimer as to what your contents are to have your fire put out? The Sofa Super store was on fire. All went in doing their job no one pushed them into the store.

Posted by firefightersforthetruth on April 13, 2008 at 12:28 p.m. (Suggest removal)

IT SURE IS A SAD DAY WHEN PEOPLE ARE SO IGNORANT TO MAKE THE KIND OF STATEMENTS I HAVE READ HERE! IT ONLY FUELS THE THOUGHT THAT GOD IS COMING AND THE JUDGEMENT DAY IS NEAR! NO AMOUNT OF MONEY CAN REPLACE A FATHER, BROTHER, SON OR LOVED ONE. TRUTH AND FACTS CAN BE PRESENTED ONLY IN A COURT OF LAW! WE WILL NOT HAVE TO EXPANE IT ALL TO GOD BECAUSE HE ALREADY KNOWS THE ANSWERS! THE WORLD TODAY LACKS COMPASSION TO OUR FELLOW HUMANS AND TO MOTHE NATURE!

MY BROTHERS ARE ALREADY IN GOD'S HAND, BUT IT SEEMS SOME OF US LEFT ARE ONLY HURRYING THE END OF TIME FOR US ALL. FAITH AND UNDERSTANDING WOULD GO MUCH FARTHER IN THIS TROUBLED TIME THAN SOME OF YOUR SHORT SIGHTED COMMENTS!

GOD BLESS MY BROTHERS WHO HAVE ALREADY FOUND THEIR PEACE! MY PRAYERS ARE FOR THOSE WHO REMAIN AND ARE TRUE TO THEIR CAUSE AND SEEK THE TRUTH IN ALL THAT IS WRONG WITH THE WORLD TODAY! MAY GOD BLESS YOU ALL!

Posted by ChrisPia on April 13, 2008 at 12:51 p.m. (Suggest removal)

This lawsuit has plenty of Merit..Just because you gave to this fund doesn't mean these families of our Hero's can't seek Justice.. Some families need to know what happened for closure..Unfortunately,they are not getting this information. The facts will prevent other tragedies..My heart and prayers go out to the families.
No amount of Money will replace a loved one..a hug from dad,being given away at a wedding by dad etc..
If we can sift through the facts and let the chips fall where they may we may prevent another tragedy for the safety of firefighters nationwide.

Posted by ImplantedYankee on April 13, 2008 at 1:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)

ffftt: You're right in that no amount of money can replace a loved one, which just adds to the notion that this is frivolous. It's not going to bring them back. Picking anyone and everyone on which to place blame won't bring them back either. Just because you do not agree does not make a statement ignorant or untrue. Letting emotions decide what is true -- THAT's ignorant. Branding everything with which you do not agree -- THAT's ignorant. It's not begrudging the families money to say that this lawsuit lacks merit. It's not a lack of compassion. It's a lack of emotional wool over my eyes. Despite the tragedy, the truth remains. Your username asks for truth. I have laid it out for you.

Posted by firefightersforthetruth on April 13, 2008 at 1:39 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Mr. Yankee! I am not afraid of the truth, nor to I lump it all together with emotions. I understand everyone has an opinion of which I am only one. SOMEONE IS RESPONCBLE FOR THEIR DEATH! Who it is is not for me to judge! I have my opinion, of which in this country I am entitled as are you! With out a court system, we are at the hands of evil people who would only submit us to their will. The laws where written so has there are checks and balances. They were written by humans, not God! There are great faults with the system of which we are governed, but I do believe that we as citizens of these fine United States, are much more privileged than most people of this world in which we all live.

Sir you can call Me ignorant all day long, and most likely I am, but at lest I will listen and grant you the right to do such. IN THE END THERE WILL BE ONLY ONE JUDGE FOR US ALL, AND ONLY HE KNOWS THE TRUTH! MY HOPE IS WHEN I REACH THAT PLACE, IF I DO, HE WILL SEE THAT I HAVE TRIED MY BEST TO UNDERSTAND WHAT HAS BEEN LAID BEFORE ME. I AM NOT THE JUDGE OF MEN, I AM BUT ONE LOST SOUL SEEKING THE TRUTH FOR WHAT EVER IT MIGHT BE. LET US ALL LOOK TO HIM FOR GUIDANCE AND UNDERSTANDING IN THIS TROUBLED TIME IN WHICH WE ALL LIVE! MAY HIS HAND HELP LEAD US ALL INTO SALVATION. IF YOU BELIEVE IN GOD OR THAT THERE IS A POWER GREATER THAN MAN, THEN LOOK TO HIM AND BELIEVE THAT ALL WILL BE SHOWN TO US IN GOOD TIME SIR. YOU SIR SAY THAT ME BRANDING EVERYTHING WHICH I DO NOT AGREE AS IGNORANT, I SIR, BY PUTTING MY FAITH IN GOD'S HAND AND LET HIM HELP MAKE THOSE DESISIONS FOR ME DOES NOT MAKE ME IGNORANT, UNLESS MY FAITH IS BRANDED AS IGNORANT!

Posted by reality_woman on April 13, 2008 at 6:53 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Enough is enough. Gas burns and when a gas burns and the firefighter has to put it out no one asks why don't we make it fire retardant??? Same with whatever is combustible. I know that no amount of money will bring her husband back so why do it??? Greed. Families fighting over who is getting the settlements?? Greed. Sorry for the major loss of life, but it was their job and they knew the risks. By the way I gave to the funds, now wondering why?

Posted by ImplantedYankee on April 13, 2008 at 7:33 p.m. (Suggest removal)

RW -- good analogy. If this were a gas station, would we be hearing, "oil companies have been making gasoline out of chemicals that they knew were flammable for years!"? From this crowd? Almost certainly.

ffftt: You just can't stay on topic, can you. Your memory (in addition to your appalling spelling and grammar) also appears to be failing you. YOU started by calling those with whom you did not agree "ignorant". I never used that word until I was responding to YOUR (and those of funandgames) posts. If, as a result of my directing the same word at you in response, you deem me unwilling to freely allow others to voice their opinions, then you are the first to blame. If that's your measure of interfering with someone else's expression, then, not only are you guilty, but you were guilty first.

The rambling about the United States, freedom, checks and balances, etc, makes no sense in this context. It sounds as though I am listening to a record of a fourth grader's flag day presentation, only the record is skipping. I can almost hear the broken strains of Aaron Copeland's "Fanfare for the Common Man" playing in the background in between skips. I don't see what any of that has to do with the point at issue. Your waving of the flag is more likely a cheap attempt to gain the rhetorical high ground that your arguments have not afforded you. The same is true of your attempt at playing the persecuted Christian.

No one brought up faith here, and no one called you ignorant for having it. We're talking about a frivolous lawsuit whereby someone is trying desperately to point blame for a tragedy.

And for crying out loud, lay off the caps lock. You're just making my point about being emotional for me. Don't make it so easy for me.

Posted by firefightersforthetruth on April 13, 2008 at 8:12 p.m. (Suggest removal)

I so sorry Mr. Yankee, please don't whop me no more, I am just a dumb good old boy firefighter who don't no no different, cant spell and don't know nothen about learning, look at the school system in this hear state, we'er at the bottom, just like you attitude of firefighters and what burns. Hell I love runnien into burning buildens I's been doing it my whole adult life, an't never going be nothen but a dumb old southern boy just like my hero rusty Thomas. So pleas cer back off on your a whopen and maybe eye's might be able to liv another day to save your ass.

Posted by ImplantedYankee on April 13, 2008 at 11:01 p.m. (Suggest removal)

This is one of those situations where I wish I was wrong. I know those families are looking for some sort of closure that they think they can obtain by squeezing money out of someone in a courtroom. If I'd lost a loved one and some lawyer was waving dollar signs in front of my face, I'd be tempted as well, but it wouldn't make it right. It would be so much easier if there was a clearcut villain here that could be blamed. Sometimes horrible things just happen. If we really want to point a finger, it should be at whomever was in command when they were ordered into the building. There was no one in the building to save. That wasn't ascertained before those men were ordered to their deaths. It probably should have, but even in that failing, in the smoke and confusion, mistakes happen. That's life, even when the results are tragic. That's often hard to take. It's a lot easier when there's someone to blame. Are the victims going to sue God next? Throwing subpoenas around isn't the answer. Moving on is.

Posted by auger on April 14, 2008 at 12:38 a.m. (Suggest removal)

FunandGames, perhaps you missed my point. Here is a hypothetical situation. My house burns due to no fault of my own. While combating the blaze, a firefighter dies. The firefighters family then sues me for the loss of their loved one. Is that fair? Does that even make any sense? Is it even legal? If they pull this off, insurance premiums are going to soar along with the price of everything you buy.

Posted by UberBlitzkrieg on April 14, 2008 at 3:36 p.m. (Suggest removal)

FunandGames, perhaps you missed my point. Here is a hypothetical situation. My house burns due to no fault of my own. While combating the blaze, a firefighter dies. The firefighters family then sues me for the loss of their loved one. Is that fair? Does that even make any sense? Is it even legal? If they pull this off, insurance premiums are going to soar along with the price of everything you buy.====

So what if you were at fault?

What if you were growing pot in the basement or you had run electricity illeagally from the next door building or some other situation... then yes! You would be VERY ELIGIBLE to have your butt handed to you in a hat.

How is that for hypothetical?

Just like the players in this game. Furniture makers know there stuff burns like gasoline. Goldberg, by his own admission, said sprinklers cost to much for him. Goldbergs fire doors did not work. The fire started in a illeagal building addition.

Who is at fault here?!

Posted by Fireman18 on April 15, 2008 at 2:54 a.m. (Suggest removal)

This suit is a bunch of crap. The maker of the sofas had nothing to do with the death of this lady's husband. Thats like saying you're gonna sue the farmer that raised the cow because you had a heart attack when you ate beef all the time. The Charleston Fire Dept. needs to be held responsible for this and no one else. Had they property trained and equiped their people this tradegy could have been prevented.

Posted by roachleg on April 15, 2008 at 2:02 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Do the firefighters in Charleston do pre-plans? Do they visit target hazards? I wonder how many of them may have visited this store as a customer? While this was a very tragic event there are still a lot of questions that need to be addressed. Also the government sets the standards for furniture I believe.

Posted by MyHumbleOpinion on April 15, 2008 at 3:08 p.m. (Suggest removal)

How about the jerk that threw out their cigarette that started the fire in the first place. No one seems to think their to blame? Since we're blaming people we should throw them in too.

Posted by bravecharleston9myspace on April 16, 2008 at 11:04 p.m. (Suggest removal)

THIS IS NOT GREED....................THIS IS THE OWNER OF THE SOFA SUPER STORE****FINALY**** HAVING TO OWN UP TO SOMETHING!!!!!!!!!!!

HOW IS IT THAT THIS MAN WHO 'DIDN'T HAVE THE MONEY' FOR THIS AND THAT.........OPEN UP ANOTHER STORE ON RIVER'S AVE.......WHILE THE CHARRED REMAINS OF THE ONE THAT KILLED OUR NINE BROTHERS STILL STOOD!!!!!!!!????!!!!!!!!

THIS MAN HAD *****CHAINED DOORS***** PEOPLE!!!!!

*SOME OF OUR DEAD NINE BROTHERS WERE FOUND AT THOSE DOORS!*

SO YOU TELL ME!!! IF YOUR LOVED ONES WERE FOUND DEAD IN A

PLACE THAT DID NOT HAVE SPRINKLERS....AND HAD FREAKING

CHAINED DOORS>>>>WOULD YOU WANT THEM TO GET AWAY WITH IT?!!

DANG!!! I WISH I COULD HAVE A PIECE OF HIM TOO!!!!!

I AM STILL MAD AT HIM FOR NOT SAVING THE CROSS THEY FOUND IN THE RUBBLE OUT THERE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
GRRRRRRRR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I SUPPORT THE FAMILIES FOR GOING AFTER HIM......

THE CITY IS NOT GOING AFTER HIM!!!!! SOMEONE HAS TO MAKE HIM PAY......DANGIT!!

never forgetting together,
missy

Posted by saxyguitarist on April 17, 2008 at 11:13 p.m. (Suggest removal)

Since they are sueing the manufacturers of the sofa's, does that mean I can sue them too for the next house fire I go into because I shouldn't have to wear an air pack because everything in the world should burn clean. O wait a second, we are talking about the department that still refuses to wear air packs on car fires. When is that guy going to sue the manufacturer of that car. After all, it should be flame retardant and burn cleaner so he shouldn't have to wear that air pack. I am a firefighter, and it IS a dangerous job. For you to accept a position as a firefighter, you understand it is a dangerous job and you COULD die. Should a road worker sue the company that makes his safety vest if he gets hit by a car? After all, it should have been reflective enough for that car to see him so it the safety vest company's fault. THIS IS RIDICULOUS!

Posted by saxyguitarist on April 17, 2008 at 11:27 p.m. (Suggest removal)

O, as far as the sueing of the owner goes, I say go for it. I don't know what the fire codes are in Charleston but in our area he would have been considered negligent. He had defective fire doors and multiple violations that are sure to have contributed to their death. Let the owner have it. Leave the manufacturers of the sofa's out of it.

Posted by SomeTruthPlease on April 19, 2008 at 12:49 a.m. (Suggest removal)

Now the owner WILL get it...almost 2 million dollars for that piece of property. Justice, as far as the city of Charleston is concerned, I'd guess.

Posted by bravecharleston9myspace on April 21, 2008 at 1:08 p.m. (Suggest removal)

YA....WE ARE COMING UP ON THE YEAR OF OUR NINE BROTHERS' DEATHS AND THE LAND THEY DIED ON DOES NOT LOOK LIKE A MEMORIAL NOW DOES IT????????

WILL IT WILL TAKE THE CITIZENS AND OUR FIREFIGHTERS AGAIN TO GO OUT THERE AND PLACE FLOWERS AND SHIRTS TO MAKE IT ONE ??????

OH YA....THANX FOR REMINDING US 'SOME TRUTH'...THE OWNER OF THE SOFA SUPER STORE ****WHO HAD CHAINS ON THE FREAKIN DOORS SO THEY COULD NOT GET OUT AND NO SPRINKLERS TO HELP THEM NOT BURN UP AND DIE*** GOT TONS OF MONEY?????!!!!!!

WHAT A GREAT YEAR THIS HAS BEEN....JUSTICE SERVED!!

OH....AND DON'T LET ME FORGET.....WHEN THE FAMILIES START GOING AFTER THE JERK......SOME PEEPS START CALLING THEM GREEDY.......WAY TO GO!!!

GET UR HEARTS BACK WHERE THEY NEED TO BE...ALRIGHT??

WHEN THEY ARE SUING...THEY ARE SUING HIM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ugh....
never forgetting HOW OUR NINE DIED....
missy