191 warrants issued in poker sting
1st Circuit deputy solicitor resigns after gambling charges
By Nadine Parks , Glenn Smith
Investigators have amassed 191 warrants against 65 people tied to a well-heeled Lowcountry gambling circuit that counted a Charleston police officer, a veteran prosecutor, a local schoolteacher and others among its members, authorities said.
Nine more suspects surrendered to detectives Monday evening. Charleston Police officer Michael B. McElveen Jr., one of the suspects, was scheduled to appear but did not because of a personal matter, according to authorities and his attorney, Andy Savage. McElveen called police and arranged to appear at 6 tonight when another group surrenders, they said.
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Suspects in Friday's poker bust are served their warrants Monday by masked undercover Charleston County sheriff's deputies among swarming gnats, media and attorneys in a lot outside the Charleston County Jail.
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Twenty-seven people were charged with gambling offenses over the weekend. Authorities expect to round up the remaining suspects in the coming days.
First Circuit Deputy Solicitor Don Sorenson, who was among those caught during a raid Friday night in Hanahan's tony Tanner Plantation, was charged Monday with four more counts of gambling violations. Solicitor David Pascoe accepted his resignation, and Sorenson apologized for his actions and for disappointing his family, friends and colleagues, said his attorney, Peter Brown.
"The judgment that I have exercised has been poor and unacceptable," Sorenson said in a statement.
Martin Orlando Reyes, owner of the home raided by deputies and police, continued to insist that the police action was heavy-handed and that the weekly games were nothing more than friendly get-togethers involving professionals who like to play Texas Hold 'em.
"We knew it was against the law, but we didn't think the severity of it was a big deal," he said Monday. "It was just a bunch of guys playing cards. It's just a little hobby, something to release a little stress on the weekends."
Mark Peper, who represents Reyes and five others involved in the case, said he will recommend that his clients simply pay their fines for the misdemeanor gambling charges and devote their energy to changing a 200-year-old state law that prohibits dice and card games. "To me, it's a law that needs to be changed."
That may be. But Charleston County Sheriff Al Cannon said it's still the law and he has a duty to enforce it. Area police have raided other games in the past, including a 2006 poker tournament in Mount Pleasant that netted 18 arrests. "It may be an old law," Cannon said. "But so is murder."
Cannon and his deputies also scoffed at the notion that these games were friendly tournaments. Authorities said the operation involved four locations, including Reyes' home, where they seized around $40,000.
More arrests
Law enforcement officers charged nine more people Monday on unlawful games and betting charges in connection with the Hanahan poker raid:
-- Mandy R. Aytes, 23
-- Charles Creech, 58
-- Bruce A. Eisenhut, 65
-- George D. Gardner, 58
-- Roy D. Gardner, 35
-- Steve Meaux, 61
-- Jason P. Pluchinsky, 32
-- Robert L. Weaver, 68
-- George A. Whitlock, 38
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Maj. John Clark said the poker games were well-organized, with paid pit bosses and dealers, and flush pots of money. Clark said it was not uncommon for $20,000 to change hands in an evening.
To drive their point home, sheriff's detectives displayed a host of items seized from Reyes' Tanner Hall Boulevard home and other properties that were searched. Several cases of poker chips, cards, table reservation markers, cash drawers and other gambling items filled one evidence room. In another, several poker tables with plush green velvet tops stood side by side. Also on hand was a disabled video surveillance system the poker players used to check who was coming to the door during their games, deputies said.
Cannon said the detectives began their investigation in May after receiving information about a high-stakes, casino-style operation. They spent the next 10 months identifying those involved in the circuit and gathering evidence, he said.
Three suspects whose names have not been released started the poker games about a year ago and the enterprise soon blossomed, Clark said. Reyes joined in the play and at some point split off to start games at his home. That's when the pots really started to get plump, deputies said.
Reyes, who runs a heating-and-air business, doesn't dispute that these weren't penny-ante games. He said he and his friends are serious poker players who enjoy playing for real money. But he insists that no one was paid to deal cards and that the house didn't get a cut. He said the players included a former police officer, a dentist, medical administrators, contractors and others.
Peper said the game that night was unusually large, but the amount of the money involved has been exaggerated. Half of the $40,000 seized that night came from Reyes' personal safe in his bedroom. Other money was taken from the wallets of the players, he said. "Forty-thousand dollars was not the amount of money that was in play."
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Cases of poker chips that were seized as evidence during raids on several locations Friday night by the Charleston County Sheriff's Office.
Reyes' wife, Dawn, said she and her husband never imagined that hosting a card game could one day lead to gun-toting policemen in ski masks barging through the door. Dawn Reyes said officers placed her and her babysitter on the floor, cuffed them with plastic ties and then sat her beside her 5-year-old daughter. She was eventually let go without being charged.
"Why was I treated like someone busted at a crack house?" she asked. "Overkill is the word that comes to mind."
A visitor that night, 35-year-old Qui Ho, had similar complaints. He and his brother, Quang Ho, went to the home at Reyes' invitation. Both brothers own nail salons called Regal Nails. It was their first visit to the home and they were interested in seeing some poker.
They were watching a basketball game on television when deputies burst through the door. The brothers thought it was a robbery. Quang Ho was pushed to the ground and hurt his back slightly. They were cuffed with plastic ties that scratched their wrists, and they saw others roughed up as well, Qui Ho said.
Cannon said he had received no complaints about deputies being too rough. He defended the display of guns and other raid tactics as necessary to ensure the safety of officers entering a home with no idea what potential dangers await them. "I don't think you can send one person up to knock on the door and say 'Y'all are under arrest, leave the money on the table and file out the front door,' " he said. "It doesn't work that way."
The people involved in the games took a risk, and that risk comes with a cost, Cannon said. Several players learned that lesson Monday as they lined up to be arrested outside the Charleston County jail. It made for an odd spectacle: suspects and attorneys swatting gnats and conferring with black-hooded detectives who sat at a long folding table.
"I never have seen a cattle call like this before," said attorney Thomas Sanders IV, who represented poker enthusiast Steve Meaux.
Reyes and his wife were back home, but they're not making any plans for Friday night. "No more poker at my house," he said. "That's it."
Jill Coley contributed to this report. Reach Glenn Smith at 937-5556 or gsmith@postandcourier.com Reach Nadine Parks at nparks@postandcourier.com.
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SCgal (anonymous) says...
IMO, how pathetic more time and energy is not being focused and spent on bigger issues at hand in today's society- ex. drugs, street violence, drive by shootings, domestic violence, child abuse, drunk drivers, repeat offenders, changing the antiquated existing legal and judicial system~
Many laws in SC need to be re-visited and ASAP
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April 8, 2008 at 5:59 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
moonpie (anonymous) says...
"Also on hand was a disabled video surveillance system the poker players used to check who was coming to the door during their games"
THAT LEADS ME TO BELIEVE THIS WAS MORE THAN A W/E POKER GAME AND A WELL RAN CIRCUIT. MORE TO COME I'M SURE.
April 8, 2008 at 6:03 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
abitskeptical (anonymous) says...
"It may be an old law," Cannon said. "But so is murder."
If someone doesn't have any more sense or wisdom than to compare murder and gambling...well, what more needs to be said?
April 8, 2008 at 6:11 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
common_sense_plz (anonymous) says...
Just saw this posted on Craigslist. She either doesn't watch the news or forgets quickly.
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April 8, 2008 at 6:56 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
justjerry (anonymous) says...
I am just glad that all of the other crime in Charleston County has been solved so that now they can work on enforcing some of the old, arcane laws that are still on the books.
I can rest easier knowing that all of the thieves, rapists, murderers and whatever other type of criminal is now behind bars. Charleston County is now crime free! Yippee!
April 8, 2008 at 6:57 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
ChrisPia (anonymous) says...
Johnq ..If it was about the money they would have seized the houses under forfeiture laws. This was a complaint by a neighbor.I Believe They didn't know how much money when they started the investigation.
The point here is admittedly they knew it was against the law.Purchased a surveillance camera for the door. This was not Your Normal friends House game.
Now I know the law is ridiculus as written and should have been changed..I know violent crime is out of control in these area and Police resources could be used better....But imagine Police pulling up to the neighbor who made the complaint and saying sorry we don't investigate this crime because of funding....How about some of the other complaints that people call police for..Each and every complaint should be investigated by the police that involves a crime with the utmost perserverance to solve the complaint.I know that there are alot of people out there that feel that this hasn't happened in their past complaints to different agencies..They have voted these people in office. Al Cannon and the Police did their job with safety in Mind(entering the house) and with the integrity we expect from our police.(they could have tipped these people off or let them go when identified).....Change the law. Please don't Bash the police for doing what they are supposed to do under the law.
April 8, 2008 at 6:58 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
common_sense_plz (anonymous) says...
Also posted on Craiglist. This is how all those busted this weekend can raise $$$ for their fines and legal fees. They have experience.
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April 8, 2008 at 7 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Cid95 (anonymous) says...
"with black-hooded detectives who sat at a long folding table."
I don't get this part. What does this mean? Like hooded sweatshirts? Or Balaclavas? Or what?
April 8, 2008 at 7 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
ChrisPia (anonymous) says...
Cid...They work undercover in Other areas of law enforcement and with the cameras around don't want to be shown for safety reasons
April 8, 2008 at 7:15 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
ImplantedYankee (anonymous) says...
Sure, it was illegal, but so is a lot of what happens in this area. It seems as though the police chased after these guys because it's easier than chasing drug dealers and murderers.
April 8, 2008 at 7:24 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
justafan (anonymous) says...
Chrispia, give me a break. A simple warning would have sufficed. Leave the SWAT tactics at the station.
And yes Mr. Cannon all it would have taken is one officer to address the complaint and it would have been the end of the story.
Can you say Grand Standing?
April 8, 2008 at 7:41 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
ChrisPia (anonymous) says...
Dear Senators,
I, as well as my family are in Favor of Senator Ritchie's Bill S.1006 that would allow Health & Dental Benefits for Families of Slain Law enforcement Officers...These Hero's as well as their families have given the ultimate sacrifice to Us(their loved ones).We should Honor that sacrifice by protecting their families. I hope this bill will pass and will be watching closely.
Name and address
Please forward this to LPI@scstatehouse.net.and to anyone you know.
This bill is designed to give medical and dental benefits to the families of slain police officer. Chris Pia
April 8, 2008 at 7:47 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
ChrisPia (anonymous) says...
Justafan... It was done for the safety of the Officers.
April 8, 2008 at 7:51 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
JohnS (anonymous) says...
The Gambling charges is the least of Reyes Worries. He was running a business without the proper lic. Not reporting income is a felony. Everyone involved may be on the watch list for unpaid taxes.
April 8, 2008 at 7:56 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
charlene68 (anonymous) says...
They should be investigating more of the crack houses and prostitute houses like that, not someones house that is harming no one and selling drugs. I swear the police department makes their selves look like idoiots sometimes for stupid stuff , and then to top it off , they are soooo worrited about poker playing and it is only a misdemeanor, when crack houses is a felony... hmmmmmmmm go figure that one out. wating the tax payers money to bust up a card game but crack whores and dealers still on the streets, I don't know about everyone else but that bothers me ....
April 8, 2008 at 8:04 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
charlene68 (anonymous) says...
that was supposed to be not selling drugs sorry!!
April 8, 2008 at 8:09 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
my2cents (anonymous) says...
The hypocrisy in this state is unbelievable! They do away with video gambling, but usher in a state lottery. They take an almost Orwellian approach to citizens playing parlor games for a few untaxed dollars, but have no problem giving away millions of dollars in tax incentives to any company or industry that takes a shine to the state.
We rank near the bottom of every list from education,earnings and infrastructure but are still overly concerned about somebody making a few dollars in a pick-up poker game. I believe it is about time we start to be known for something other than our friendliness, charm and history. How about being known for things like; forward thinking, progress, cutting edge, highest earnings, best schools, lowest crime rate and over-achievement?
For all of the people that were commenting about "the law is the law" - aren't we the same state that until a few years ago had a law that made it illegal for people of mixed races to marry? Just because we have some law on the books that has been there for 200 years doesn't mean it is right. If you do not question authority and demand the most from your elected official and public servants; you are doomed to be controlled by them. let's Stop being sheep and apapthetic. Let's start taking control of our lives and demand that our government and law enforcement stop wasting time on minor issues like card games and start doing something about those big issues like the murder/crime rate and improving our education system.
Speak up people!!!!
April 8, 2008 at 8:12 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
SC_DOC (anonymous) says...
When is the Gestapo going to inforce all these other 200 year old archaic laws that are still on the books?:
http://www.idiotlaws.com/dumb_laws/so...
April 8, 2008 at 8:29 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
outrage (anonymous) says...
Why blame the police for doing their job? Blame the legislators for not changing the laws that need to be changed, yet adding new silly laws.
I will vote for Cannon for Sheriff as long as he keeps running. Wait and see what happens when someone else takes over CCSO.
April 8, 2008 at 8:38 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Denmark_Vesey (anonymous) says...
It's funny the way how white folks are always asking the police to do more to make the communities safe. So they make arrests on and illegal gambling operation which includes Charleston police officer, a veteran prosecutor, a local schoolteacher and others among its members(more white folks) Then they so no we know this is illegal, we want you to arrest drug dealers, and prostitutes, black people not us.
April 8, 2008 at 8:41 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
BlueWaterDay (anonymous) says...
I always try to support law enforcement. But, this is just a ridiculous abuse by the sheriff's office.
April 8, 2008 at 8:42 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Denmark_Vesey (anonymous) says...
Then they say* no we know this is illegal, we want you to arrest drug dealers, and prostitutes, black people not us.
April 8, 2008 at 8:43 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
justiceforsome (anonymous) says...
"It may be an old law," Cannon said. "But so is murder."
So that's the brilliant logic behind our number two law enforcement official? What a knucklehead. Yes, they broke the law, albeit a foolish and archaic one, and should pay their fines and lobby the legislature for change. However, the limited brainpower behind the raids - especially the use of jack-booted paramilitary-clad "policemen" who handcuff mothers in front of their infant children (mothers who are later released and not charged). The community as a whole should be outraged.
April 8, 2008 at 8:43 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
2dogs1bear (anonymous) says...
What happened with Reyes' 5 year old daughter? Pretty lousy she had to witness all this, the adults responsible should be ashamed. She must have been one frightened little girl.
April 8, 2008 at 8:44 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
ImplantedYankee (anonymous) says...
"SC_DOC: When is the Gestapo going to inforce all these other 200 year old archaic laws that are still on the books?"
-- When they find a way to make a buck doing it. Don't doubt the profit motive.
April 8, 2008 at 8:45 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
oldglory (anonymous) says...
These scofflaws are the types who would be capable of greasing palms in order to remain above the law. This same reasoning could (and probably has been) applied to cocaine, investment, etc. We've just seen that in several 'big-time' local cases. Further, I think when some ordinary citizen tipped off this 'small operation to relieve tension on weekends' that it became exactly what all were busted for, don't you?
So. Those of you who are maintaining that it's a crazy unworthy ol' law are advocating that any law we might not 'like' can be ignored? Is that the way our judicial system works?
What about people who do like to gamble? Many go to Las Vegas and New Jersey to legally indulge themselves. These are wannabe big shots who want to be better than the average SC citizen who respects the law.
SC and many of its citizens have earned the right to be on the bottom of every national list there is.
April 8, 2008 at 8:50 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
SC_DOC (anonymous) says...
"-- When they find a way to make a buck doing it. Don't doubt the profit motive."
It is against the law to drive a motorized vehicle on King Street. Think how much the Holy City could rake in if this law were inforced?
April 8, 2008 at 8:51 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Denmark_Vesey (anonymous) says...
No one wants to bash over a group of white people getting locked up for breaking the law. Let's wait until someone black get's locked up for a shooting. That's the news we are looking for aren't we? That's were the police should be spending there time (when not gambling).
April 8, 2008 at 9:03 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Maximus123 (anonymous) says...
This is stupid. Flat out dumb. I wonder how many of the police officers cut loose and play poker while sitting around. Heck, I bet firefighters do it all the time. This is guys having a good time. If there are drugs involved...ok. Understandable. But seriously, congratulations on busting a bunch of middle aged guys smoking cigars, eating chips, stacking chips, drinking a few brews, or some cokes, music playing, watching some NCAA tournament madness....Now, lets picture how many other homes are doing this as well. I'd like to see the number of crimes that went on while they were wasting their time planning this. I'm sure if you did a vote, the citizens, taxpayers would much rather want time spent elsewhere.
If a "Guys Poker Night" is against the law, the "Female Sex Toy Party" nights should be against the law.
Al CannonBall, you got no ACE in the hole...or is this just a training module for your new cadets? WHAT a JOKE!
April 8, 2008 at 9:13 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Larz13 (anonymous) says...
With all crime in the county solved, I guess it is only a matter of time before the East Side becomes a tourist destination.
April 8, 2008 at 9:17 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
FALCON86 (anonymous) says...
MOST OF YOU ON THIS LINE ARE MIDDLE CLASS WHITE CITIZENS WHO ARE SYMPATHETIC TO A WHITE GUY GOING TO JAIL FOR RUNNING A GAMBLING OPERATION. HOWEVER IF THIS WERE A YOUNG AFRICAN AMERICAN MALE RUNNING A DRUG OPERATION OUT OF THE SAME NEIGHBORHOOD THEN YOU WOULD BE READY TO PUT A PRISON ON TOP OF HIM. DRUGS, GAMBLING, PROSTITUTION, AND ALCOHOL ARE VICES THAT CAN AND HAS BROUGHT MANY FAMILIES TO THERE KNEES. POLICE DO NOT MAKE LAW THEY ENFORCE IT. SAFETY AND SECURITY OF THE MEN AND WOMEN WHO WEAR A BADGE IS THE FIRST THING THAT HAS TO BE ACCOMPLISHED. THESE OFFICERS SHOULD BE PRAISED FOR DOING THERE JOBS. THE POLICE KNOW THAT WITH THAT TYPE OF MONEY IN ONE LOCATION LIKE THAT MAY BE HARMLESS LITTLE VICE LIKE GAMBLING BUT, IF THE PEOPLE WHO MOST OF YOU SAY SHOULD BE IN JAIL FOUND OUT ABOUT THIS THE CITY OF HANAHAN COULD HAVE HAD A POSSIBLE MULTIPLE MURDER ON THEIR HANDS. DON'T JUST THINK IN TERMS OF THE INDIVIDUAL BUT THE WHOLE COMMUNITY. A FEW SCRATCHES WILL HEAL A FEW DEAD PEOPLE THEY WOULD NOT BE AROUND TO COMPLAIN.
April 8, 2008 at 9:26 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
prosperous_hb (anonymous) says...
I think this is stupid. People can't even enjoy a fun time in their homes. I bet if this money was going to the crappy educational lottery, they would say anything about it. Whatever money the goverment can't get their hands on is considered illegal.
April 8, 2008 at 9:28 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
ChrisPia (anonymous) says...
12 people were arrested with outstanding warrants. Can anyone Tell me what they were for? Probably not.. This is one reason why polce go into homes with swat teams...Self preservation.( and because their crystal balls were not working)....
I can tell you an incident that happened in the early 1990's.2 really experienced Detectives from the NYPD's Robbery Unit 23rd pct were serving a misdemeanor warrant at a 90 year old or so mans home.They were kind to the gentleman and explained that he had to come down to get fingerprinted and will be released and driven home on a release to appear in court.He stated he needed to get dressed and went into his room. Both Officers lived to tell this story. They were shot numerous times......So please understand it's not personal they are making the area safe so they can go home to their loved ones.
April 8, 2008 at 9:37 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
chudbrocktune (anonymous) says...
DenMark, I love the well thought out comments. In your attempt to demonize white people you essentially stated that being a drug dealer or a prostitue automatically means you are black. You also assumed the people in the gambling ring were all white by their jobs; ie lawyer, police officer, and school teacher, as if black people are incapable of achiving these positions. So in the future please dont try to apply your short comings to the rest of us.
April 8, 2008 at 9:41 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
justafan (anonymous) says...
ChrisPa, you are fighting a loosing battle. using an incident that happened nearly 20 years ago in New York is less than compelling.
Our point is that ten months of investigation, countless man hours and misguided use of public service is a monumential waste of time and money.
Again i repeat that a couple officers showing up at the door to address the neighbors complaint would have broken up the game night. Problem solved with out all the bad publicity for the police department.
Common sense needs to be used before handcuffs.
April 8, 2008 at 10:04 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
whome (anonymous) says...
The interesting thing is why the majority of posters feel that the law should not be enforced because the activity involved consenting adults and did not directly affect unwitting third parties. But under this standard, many of the crimes mentioned here (e.g. prostitution, recreational drug use, etc) should not be punishable either. While the race-based argument overreaches, I believe the disparate treatment of the crimes can be based partially on class.
April 8, 2008 at 10:22 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
greener1 (anonymous) says...
Wow, gambling is legal everywhere in South Carolina except Hanahan and Mt. Pleasant! Come to Goose Creek if you want to gamble folks! All of the private bars in G.C. have poker machines people. Someone at Sled is being paid off and they have employed people that do play the machines themselves!!! I even went into a gas station near Sangaree/Summerville that has them still. I mean leave these people alone or bust everyone, not just Pappy's, or some people playing at someone's house
April 8, 2008 at 10:29 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
blkmalenproud (anonymous) says...
I don't remember the last time I was robbed by a middle aged white business owner at the gas station for my wallet so he could get buy in money. No wait that was the 19 year old black subject that needed crack money and told so in open court.
BTW I am a Professional African American male.
Just drive down any low income housing area and the police could make hundreds of arrests for open containers, public intoxication. Drug dealing etc. I took myself out of the gutter never got mixed up with those types of people and now I hate to read the hatred by my people toward all white people. We did this ourselves and those of us that blame the white person is uneducated, and probably one that is always breaking the law. I have never been arrested and neither has my children. I own my own home, and yes I play poker with white people all the time. So those of us that say that it's about time, how many dice games go on in the corner for cash daily? Please stop blaming everyone else for our problems and do something about it and change it.
April 8, 2008 at 10:33 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
scrisn (anonymous) says...
I see mnay homes with outside CCTV cameras. Does that mean that anyone who has these are up to no good? Come on in his private bedroom in a safe was over 20k, I bet that if anyone out there had that type of money and was able to keep it in their homes they could. Pocket cash, going out on a shopping spree fund, you name it it could be.
Yes they were wrong and got caught. get over it 191 warrants for 60 something poeple, is way over board. A few officers writing citations would have been ok. Pay the fine move on etc... I have 4 poker sets at my home and received them as gifts over the past couple years.
The next time a SWAT team shows up to bust a underage drinking party lets not get upset then too. There are more drugs, guns there then at a home. 20 years ago 50 of us were partying 3 officers showed up wrote us all tickets took a long time but we all got em, no swat team needed. Yes we were at a home and most were inside. cars all over the place etc.. didn't take 10 months and yes the neighbors called and complained. My how laws change in 20 years.
From what I found out the outstanding warrants were all for traffic tickets and such. ohh what hard criminals they had there.
within the last 10 months 2 homicides in Hannahan hmm wonder if those could have been avoided.
BLKMALE
I played dice the other day in downtown Charleston and won 20 bucks. funny how you say that, and yes the people were drinking beers in the open behind a store, and shooting dice.
April 8, 2008 at 11:03 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
froglegs (anonymous) says...
ChrisPia said, "This is one reason why polce go into homes with swat teams...Self preservation.( and because their crystal balls were not working)...."
This statement is a joke! The police did not need to raid the house in this manner. If they have been investigating this issue for 10 months they should know exactly who and what is inside the house. They obviously had a contact who was cooperating by supplying information on what was going on and who was inside. Police serve warrants everyday by just knocking on the door. This style of military ambush is my bigger concern. Eveyone there was put at risk by an abuse of power. I have yet to read in this story that any guns were found in the house. As well I got a story to remind you of ChrisPia. Remember a few years back when the Atlanta Police Dept. served a warrant at an incorrect house and a 70 year old grandmother shot one of the officers. That Police Officer might have never been shot if the Police would have just knocked on the door rather than busting into the house with ski-masks and guns.
April 8, 2008 at 11:08 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
ChrisPia (anonymous) says...
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++++Maybe this is why it's so hard to get laws changed++
Does anyone have a list of our legislators e mails?
April 8, 2008 at 11:14 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Henry_Horres_Jr (anonymous) says...
South Carolina is a leader again. In hypocrisy.
Go to any golf course in area, and you will find a little gambling going on. Almost every golf match has a side bet, and the participants are hardly criminals. Wait you say. Golf is not a game of chance? You have evidently not watched me play golf.
And set up your undercover snitches in almost any federal, county and municipal government office in the state when the Super Bowl or World Series rolls around. Same with college sports. The office "pools" abound. That's gambling! Sic em, Al.
Serious enforcement of the laws on the books in South Carolina would closed down private businesses and public agencies by the score. The state would simply grind to a halt, with well over a million incarcerated.
Please somebody. Please take whatever action it takes to give residents in South Carolina the same freedom to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness enjoyed by millions in other parts of the USA. I thought that was guaranteed under the Constitution somewhere.
Trouble is, govenment, no matter how well intended, is a form of oppression. It becomes a businesses, where bureaurats make a handsome living regulating the masses. Sure, somebody has to do it. But a little benevolence and a lot more consistency wouldn't hurt the process.
My grandfather use to race horses on what is now Race St. in downtown Charleston. (Yep, that's why they call it Race St.) Of course that part of the city was almost in the country back then. He had more freedom under the Constitution than we do today. How's that possible?
John Edwards was right about one thing. There are two Americas. One exist solely for the benefit of politicians and their minions. And then there's the rest of us.
And by the way Jessica, craps is a gamed played with dice. And as I understand it, that's against the law in South Carolina, whether any money changes hands or not. And now you have sent the police an invitation. I can see them loading up all those tuxed and evening gowned socialites in the paddy wagons now. At any rate you just don't get it. It is the gambling that is illegal. Well, unregulated gambling at any rate.
It may not be the law of the land, but it is definitely the law of the man. And the man must enforce it until someone changes the law. And the surest way I know to make that happen is to enforce the law without exception.
It's time for our solons to stop playing games and start making sense.
April 8, 2008 at 11:19 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
kma71 (anonymous) says...
WELL SAID blkmalenproud!!! I'm a white professional male who has several black professional males as friends. They say the same things you are saying!! It's not the white man's fault anymore. Opportunity is out there! You just have to want it bad enough to go after it!!
April 8, 2008 at 11:28 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
ChrisPia (anonymous) says...
Safety First is not a Joke. The amount of People at that place and all the investigating in the world of people at that game couldn't predict what was going to happen when police arrive. Stop blaming the Police .YOU,By Violating the law have put yourself in that situation. Not the police. The Law is ridiculous,I agree. I love playing poker.Change the law. Change the Sheriff. But please don't put officers safety in Question. They Did Their Job Professionally and with Integrity and as they were trained to enter houses.Yes ,This was a minor crime and I don't think all these people are evil.Yes, there is an abundance of other crime in the area that should be a priority...My POINT is someone made a complaint and it was investigated..If it wasn't investigated you would have been saying they were getting paid off like the others posted.
PAY THE CASHIER
April 8, 2008 at 11:38 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
ballera33 (anonymous) says...
How absurd that our tax money is being spent on something as minor and petty as an in-home poker game when there is true and dangerous crime on the streets. North Charleston remains one of the most dangerous cities in the nation and it's not because of poker. The state is hypocritical because isn't the lottery essentially a gambling venture? Soon, the leaders will be telling us what toilet paper to use and how to dress. This is ridiculous. Let adults be adults and make their own decisions.
April 8, 2008 at 11:39 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Test2007 (anonymous) says...
Have to agree with raregar on this point. I love how the trolls come out to stir up the pot.
April 8, 2008 at 11:54 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
froglegs (anonymous) says...
ChrisPia said, "Safety first is no joke."
Well said. Safety first. The safe thing would have been to approach the house in a proffesional manner rather than storming the house like it was the home of Osama Bin Laden. Cops enter houses everyday with out knowing whats on the other side with out guns pulled and masks over their face. Why is this situation any different. If it was a neighbor who made a complaint it should have been dealt with like a complaint and not a circus of media, politics and the abuse of power.
April 8, 2008 at 11:55 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
willbillbedamned (anonymous) says...
Too bad they got busted. You think the cop that got busted hasn't jailed other people for something equally innocuous??
You think that solicitor hasn't prosecuted somebody for something like simple possession?? They broke the law. You don't like the law, get it changed. Also change the ones that try to dictate morality for the rest of us. I want to smoke dope, you want a hooker, she needs a clean needle, get over it.
April 8, 2008 at 12:02 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
ChrisPia (anonymous) says...
Froglegs and Thomas1776...The mask thing is because the officers work undercover..The problem is manpower issues and these undercovers have to be used to make arrests. Their faces can't be plastered all over the TV and papers because of their PHYSICAL SAFETY on cases they are working now and in the Future...I do have a problem with the masks for one reason...I Don't think it is safe for an officer on a search warrant going into a house with a mask on.Someone in a residence could mistaken you for a bad guy and shoot you.This policy must change for safety reasons.
April 8, 2008 at 12:03 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
BillMan (anonymous) says...
What a shame that 10 months of police work could'nt have gone toward preventing some of those rapes, robberies, and murders I hear about on the local news every night, the citizens should be outraged OUR government agencies are spending OUR money like this!
April 8, 2008 at 12:04 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
faelady (anonymous) says...
From Maximus 123 "If a "Guys Poker Night" is against the law, the "Female Sex Toy Party" nights should be against the law."
There is a difference - our Ladies Only parties are LEGAL! (Yes, I do THOSE parties!) The law needs to be changed so that this archaic law is updated - I was just in New Orleans and the casino HELPS the local economy by brining in tax money - why shouldn't SC do the same thing and help everyone!!
April 8, 2008 at 12:06 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
thesopranpoes (anonymous) says...
Can the police get back to more important things like not filling in your hole from your sandcastle!
April 8, 2008 at 12:08 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
ChrisPia (anonymous) says...
United States
Under the Fourth Amendment to the United States Constitution, most searches by the police require a search warrant based on probable cause, although there are exceptions. Any police entry of an individual's home always requires a warrant (for either search or arrest), absent exigent circumstances (i.e. hot pursuit of a felon; imminent destruction of evidence; the need to prevent a felon's escape; or the risk of harm to the police or others).[1]
Under the Fourth Amendment, searches must be reasonable and specific. This means that a search warrant must be specific as to the specified object to be searched for and the place to be searched. Other items, rooms, outbuildings, persons, vehicles, etc. may require additional search warrants.
To obtain a search warrant, an officer must first prove that probable cause exists before a magistrate or judge, based upon direct information (i.e. obtained by the officer's personal observation) or hearsay information. Hearsay information can even be obtained by oral testimony given over a telephone, so long as its source has a basis for its knowledge that is either reliable or has veracity, as determined by a totality of the circumstances. Both property and persons can be seized under a search warrant. The standard for a search warrant is much lower than the lack of reasonable doubt required for a later conviction. The rationale is that the evidence that can be collected without a search warrant may not be sufficient to convict, but may be sufficient to suggest that enough evidence to convict could be found using the warrant.
April 8, 2008 at 12:09 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
ChrisPia (anonymous) says...
Gambling
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"Gamble" redirects here. For other uses, see Gamble (disambiguation).
Caravaggio, The Cardsharps, c. 1594.Gambling has a specific economic definition, referring to wagering money or something of material value on an event with an uncertain outcome with the primary intent of winning additional money and/or material goods. Typically, the outcome of the wager is evident within a short period of time.
The term gaming[1] in this context typically refers to instances in which the activity has been specifically permitted by law. The two words are not mutually exclusive; i.e., a "gaming" company offers (legal) "gambling" activities to the public.[2] (This distinction is not universally observed in the English-speaking world, however. For instance, in the UK, the regulator of gambling activities is called the Gambling Commission (not the Gaming Commission.[3])
The Lottery is Legal
April 8, 2008 at 12:13 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
BillMan (anonymous) says...
The truth is every one of us has broken some law on the books and could have been arrested at some point in time for something! Cannon's logic is retarded, why not just enforce EVERY law on the books and we will all take turns going to jail. Cannon would have his turn as well I'm sure! I may not vote for this guy ever again!
April 8, 2008 at 12:15 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
theronce (anonymous) says...
Within the walls of our own homes on our property, our government bans, requires, and regulates every aspect of our lives, bar none, enforcable with fines and imprisonment, even unto death. We willingly subject ourselves to its benevolence and tyranny in all things and declare ourselves free.
April 8, 2008 at 12:18 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
mominthesouth (anonymous) says...
ChrisPia is exactly right. In every state in this country are laws which are hundreds of years old. What we have to do as citizens is get involved in trying to change these laws. I understand the concern of the neighbor. I have called the police because of suspicious actions at a neighbors house. It happened to be at night and the known neighbors were not at home. The police came ready to take action. Fortunately everything check out. I do not want to live in a neighborhood and feel unsafe. Thank you police officers for doing your job. I do not think any of this would have happened if it was just a couple of guys hanging out and having some fun. I don't think too many homes are set up with numerous playing tables, hundreds of chips, cash drawers, cameras and $40,000 in cash. I am lucky if I have $100 in cash most of the time. Pleading guilty is the right thing to do.
April 8, 2008 at 12:21 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
ballachulish (anonymous) says...
Laws are laws, we shouldn't get to pick and choose which laws we follow.
The last few years have shown that some Americans feel that they can flout laws with little fear of prosecution.
Hire illegal labor, no problem, run a professional gambling ring, so what.
Sorry, but the argument that the cops should bust crack heads rather than a bunch of suburban dudes (some with outstanding warrants) is disingenuous.
Statistics would show that the cops probably bust a "Cracky" once a day, and that has no impact on my life.
A guy running a gambling operation in a suburban setting, involving 65 people, some with dubious pasts is a bigger threat to me than a crackhouse in an area I don't frequent.
April 8, 2008 at 1:41 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
ChrisPia (anonymous) says...
MEMBERS OF THE SENATE
E-MAIL ADDRESSES
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This is your legislature.
April 8, 2008 at 1:43 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
scohn (anonymous) says...
We can buy lotto tickets & put money into the squandering, poor accounting for $ trail Gov., but we can't play poker in our private homes? Reminds me of the campaign in Ill.. No smoking anywhere ad signs. However, every gas station proudly displays hard liquor to be bought in their windows. Don't smoke & drive! However, please be sure to drink and drive!
~What luck for rulers that men do not think!"~Adolph Hitler~
I have no doubt that this bust would not have happened if Chas. County thought it would have only a net of a couple hundred bucks! US Patriot Act hard @ work against the US Constitution. ROF-LMAO
April 8, 2008 at 1:54 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
ChrisPia (anonymous) says...
TP Folly beach is run By Terry Boatwright. Candidate For Dorchester County Sheriff. This has been an ongoing thing on Folly beach.
April 8, 2008 at 2 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
FALCON86 (anonymous) says...
SOME OF YOU DON'T GET IT. SOME OF THESE PEOPLE HAD MORE THAN TRAFFIC VIOLATIONS. SOME OF YOU BELIEVE THAT THIS IS A BLACK AND WHITE ISSUE. IT IS BUT NOT OF PEOPLE BUT TO THE BLACK INK ON THE WHITE PAPER THAT IS OUR CODE OF LAWS. MOST OF THE TIME WHEN YOU SEE A SUBURBAN HOME BEING RAIDED IT IS BECAUSE INFORMATION WAS FORWARDED TO THE POLICE FROM SOMEONE IN A LOW INCOME NEIGHBORHOOD THAT HAD KNOWLEDGE OF WHAT WAS TAKING PLACE. YOU HAVE TO REALIZE THAT THE LOW INCOME AREAS ARE THAT WAY BECAUSE THEY USUALLY ARE GIVING MONEY TO SOMEONE WHO THEY NEVER SEE IN THE AREA THAT THEY LIVE IN. THE LOW LEVEL DRUG DEALER IS NOT THE ONE WHO MAKES THE MONEY BUT IS THE ONE THAT YOU SEE. THE ONE WHO MAKES THE MONEY IS THE GUY THAT COULD POSSIBLE BE YOUR NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR.
April 8, 2008 at 2:03 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
little_green_person (anonymous) says...
I cannot vouch for it but have been told that in GA it's technically illegal for "women to be on top." Sure hope we don't have laws like that on the books because I can just see the commandos breaking down the bedroom doors....
And they wonder why people don't respect law enforcement officers.
Stop trying to legislate peoples' personal lives.
Get a life.
April 8, 2008 at 2:03 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
ChrisPia (anonymous) says...
Dear Senators,
I, as well as my family are in Favor of Senator Ritchie's Bill S.1006 that would allow Health & Dental Benefits for Families of Slain Law enforcement Officers...These Hero's as well as their families have given the ultimate sacrifice to Us(their loved ones).We should Honor that sacrifice by protecting their families. I hope this bill will pass and will be watching closely.
Name and address
Please forward this to All your Legislators and to anyone you know.
This bill is designed to give medical and dental benefits to the families of slain police officer. Chris Pia
Please E mail your legislators at Email addresses above
April 8, 2008 at 2:05 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
ChrisPia (anonymous) says...
Please also email them to change this law and all the other archaic ones..So The Police don't have to receive negativity for doing there jobs.
April 8, 2008 at 2:07 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Girleygirl (anonymous) says...
Plead guilty and fight the law later. It will not change overnight but don't bitcb and groan about it if you aren't ready to take a stand.
Here's a list of other Sc laws that need to be removed:
It is a capital offense to inadvertently kill someone while attempting suicide.
By law, if a man promises to marry an unmarried woman, the marriage must take place.
Every adult male must bring a rifle to church on Sunday in order to ward off Indian attacks.
It is perfectly legal to beat your wife on the court house steps on Sundays.
All schools must prepare a suitable program for Francis Willard Day.
April 8, 2008 at 2:10 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
USCBUG (anonymous) says...
This is so ridiculous! We should be ashamed of ourselves for even being a part of this community. I dont care if it was a law, the police handled it poorly and WHAT THE HELL?? Do they have nothing more important to handle? I forgot is Charleston not one of the top ten crime cities in the nation. Yeah, let's get our damn priorities straight here. 10 MONTHS what a joke!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
April 8, 2008 at 2:27 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
LI58 (anonymous) says...
This is friggin ridiculous! The police would be better served raiding the all the college parties that our underage drinkers attend on the weekends? At least that would save a life or two.
April 8, 2008 at 2:35 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
FALCON86 (anonymous) says...
TO: USCBUG
IF YOU EVER WATCH THE NEWS THE FBI CONDUCTS AN INVESTIGATION AGAINST ORGANIZED CRIME THAT CAN TAKE UP TO 5 TO 6 YEARS. THE BAD PART IS THE ONLY THING THAT THEY CONVICT THEM OF IS THE RICO STATUTE. MOST CRIME BOSSES NEVER GO TO JAIL FOR MURDER BUT RUNNING A CRIMINAL ENTERPRISE. OPERATIONS LIKE THIS TAKE TIME. JUST RUNNING IN AND TELLING THE INDIVIDUALS THAT THEY NEED TO STOP IS NOT ENOUGH. TO FIND THE REAL PLAYERS IN THE GAME YOU HAVE TO PLAY DEFENSE IN ORDER TO USE YOUR OFFENSE.
April 8, 2008 at 2:45 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
007 (anonymous) says...
http://www.homepokergames.com/southca...
I googled poker in South Carolina and found the above website. Too bad crack houses don't advertise like this.
April 8, 2008 at 2:59 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
outrage (anonymous) says...
ChrisPia - Damned if you do, damned if you don't. Thankless job!
TP - We will still be there for you when you need us.
April 8, 2008 at 3:14 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
outrage (anonymous) says...
I am a good guy, why in-laws even like me!
April 8, 2008 at 3:26 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
outrage (anonymous) says...
my in-laws! oops!
April 8, 2008 at 3:26 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
carolinamommyof4 (anonymous) says...
I see both sides BUT am swayed by the picture a bit.
Why were they in a lot outside? I understand the officers needing to hide their faces, but if they were inside where media could not be allowed...then they wouldnt need them. Or better yet, have the service officers actually serve them! The deputies do not have to serve them. This is a circus. I'm not siding due to the crime, but would be appalled if I had to stand outside and forced to perform what I see as circus acts. These people may very well be guilty, but some may not. Innocent until proven guilty yet forced to parade in front of media in a grass lot with masked officers.
April 8, 2008 at 3:30 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
LocalTruth (anonymous) says...
If Al Cannon has a duty to enforce the law regardless of its age or public opinion, then why in the heck do i see illegal aliens everywhere? I want some of my tax money back AL!!! You have not done what we have hired and paid you to do. When one of your deputies pulls me over for a traffic violation he tells me "Ignorance of the law is no excuse" What is your excuse "Al"???
April 8, 2008 at 3:39 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
ChrisPia (anonymous) says...
TP ..I"M Sure they Thank You for their support..
Did you email all of these lawmakers yet? Be Honest.
I Did But only on the issue S1006 above.
Outrage; I say thank You many times and have my Kids do the same when they see an officer.
I agree on the Thankless job though.
Low Pay
Low manpower
Do you Pay for Medical and Dental?
Will to work state(can get fired for anything)
Low Life insurance policy for your family if you get killed
No Medical or dental benefits for your family If your killed
major safety issues
outdated equiptment
Can You think of anything else that shows the community cares about you?
I commend All Officers for doing there jobs under these conditions. Thank You
April 8, 2008 at 3:41 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
sadjamesislandgirl (anonymous) says...
I think if you own your own home and if you want to play some cards with some of your friends, then it is NO ONE'S business what you do inside your home. I think the law has gone OVER BOARD with this crap. I am engaged to one of the men who turned him self in and I think the way the police handled everything is wrong. What about the drug dealers atanding on the streets of down town Charleston, and for alot of these comments about BLACK or WHITE it is not the issue. Why is it always about the color of someones skin. Those people should keep there mouth shut. I say change the law these are just simple everyday people playing a freindly game of cards. Whose business is it if they are just having FUN, and with their OWN MONEY>
Get a life and start worring about the other crimes happening in our area. this is BULL S-IT>>
Go where the REAL CRIME is on our own streets in our own neiborhood. For all the people who has gotten arrested MORE POWER TO YOU!! I stand behind everyone of you and I will pray for each and everyone involved with this BOGIS WARRENT>
April 8, 2008 at 3:46 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
FedUpVoter (anonymous) says...
"To serve and Protect" isn't that what the police are here for? Who does an action like this serve, and who does it protect? Are they trying to protect poker players from themselves? Where did these moronic values, that far too many legislators and law enforcement officials seem to embrace, these values that state that the citizenry needs to be protected from itself, come from? One of the freedoms in a free society is to screw up. When our screw ups adversely affect others freedom to live and enjoy their lives, then we enact laws to protect the freedoms of those people. A group of people playing poker (by their own choice) in someones home, or online, or in a casino, or even in a public park, adversely affects no one that does not choose to be part of that game.
I don't step into your life, so please leave me the heck alone!
April 8, 2008 at 3:51 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
ChrisPia (anonymous) says...
Emails are up above to change the law....Tell me please what the officers did wrong.
April 8, 2008 at 3:54 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
BillMan (anonymous) says...
After seeing those Highway Patrol videos I think people are wising up to the problem of bad apples in our law enforcement ranks! It's a shame, most police do outstanding work but they allow these creeps to stay employed and go from agency to agency! How can you have someone making arrests who should be arrested themselves! The hypocrasy in all of this is the police officer and deputy solicitor who were caught in the gambling bust, they should be banned from their respective fields, it is an outrage to have a solicitor prosecuting people while he is knowingly breaking laws himself! That is the real story in all of this!
April 8, 2008 at 3:58 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
BillMan (anonymous) says...
I heard the next big story is the undercover investigation going on for the last 18 months for jaywalking in Charleston County, 237 arrests are expected! Get your popcorn ready! And don't mind all the robberies and carjackings taking place, their on that too!
April 8, 2008 at 4:11 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
sadjamesislandgirl (anonymous) says...
ChrisPia
i think the officers should be focusing on crimes like drug dealers standing on our streets and the people killing our childern with stolen guns. I dont see where there was a MAJOR crime commited here. They need to get the REAL crimminals off the street and quite messing in peoples's PRIVATE lives.
April 8, 2008 at 4:25 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
downtownsurvivor (anonymous) says...
OMG!!! The law is the LAW!!! GET OVER IT PEOPLE THERE ARE CROOKED COPS AND OTHER PROFESSIONALS IN THE WORLD! THOSE WHO DONT LIVE BY THE LAW SHALL DIE BY THE LAW!
April 8, 2008 at 4:28 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
downtownsurvivor (anonymous) says...
sadjamesislandgirl!!!!!
Private Lives? U sound really naive. If that was the case the mayor would be able to smoke his pot in the privacy of his own home! Get a life
April 8, 2008 at 4:34 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
sadjamesislandgirl (anonymous) says...
downtownsurvivor
you need to get a life you are living the the heart of crime. this is not about smoking pot, this is about playing cards. You need to relize what the true crime is here. This is my opion and I stand by EVEY SINGLE PERSON who was arrested I hope this will change the STUPID laws that we have in SOuth Carolina. You need to worrie about where you live cause I bet you 10.00 you live beside a rapist or some one who murdered someone or you live right next door to a major drug dealer. Oops I guess this is gambling also OOPS my bad.
April 8, 2008 at 4:45 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
FALCON86 (anonymous) says...
TO: SADJAMESISLANDGIRL
YOU ARE ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE WHO WOULD RATHER A MURDER GO FREE IF HE WAS ATTRACTIVE ENOUGH. THEN YOU PROBABLY WANTED TO BURY MIKE VICK FOR DOGFIGHTING. MAYBE WE SHOULD PICK AND CHOOSE AS WE PLEASE. YOU DON'T AGREE SO YOU DON'T GO TO JAIL BUT IF YOU DISAGREE THEN YOU GO TO JAIL. LIBERAL OR CONSERVATIVE WE WERE SUPPOSE TO GET OUR VALUES FROM OUR FAMILIES, CHURCH, AND SOCIETY. SO I GUESS FOR YOU ANARCHY SHALL REIGN.
April 8, 2008 at 5:06 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
BKLYNIRISH (anonymous) says...
"Maybe one of you meathead cop sympathizers can explain why this dude was handcuffed for a leash infraction?"
Are you sure that was the reason why he was in handcuffs?
Case in point:
Police officer stops a driver for speeding. John Smith, DOB 1/1/1974, 6'01" 185". Police officer runs NCIC check of Mr. Smith, and a hit on a warrant comes out of California. Mr. Smith is detained, and oft times placed in handcuffs (literally for his safety and that of the officer), pending the confirmation of the warrant. California confirms the warrant for whatever the offense is but declines extradition. Mr. Smith has his handcuffs removed and is issued a citation for speeding and sent on his way.
Bad news, TP. What you think you see as you pass by a police officer "conducting business" is rarely the case. Come on out and ride with the cops someday, you just may learn something.
As for the gambling situation, have any of you considered for one second that there may have been more than just gambling they were looking for?
April 8, 2008 at 5:20 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
ptmama73 (anonymous) says...
Hmmmm...I wonder...could it be that Cannon was just pissed because he wasn't invited to participate in the "boys club"?
April 8, 2008 at 5:22 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
jlaw (anonymous) says...
Bravo! Thanks to all the officers of our local police departments for for keeping us safe.
I guess when I walk down the street tonight I do not need to worry as you'll have certainly removed all the murders, pick pockets and drug dealing gangs from our streets.
I say because I know you'll would not waste the taxpayers dollars by spending 10 months chasing 65 successful taxpaying professionals all around the lowcounty for petty crimes such as gambling unless you'll had first removed all the other serious threats from our towns.
Great decsions were obviously made here by the top commanders who decided to pursue these guys. Good work was down by the masked gunman, police, who stormsed the house. Excellant work on restraining the babysitter!
Now, thanks to such detective work, several of those successful taxpaing citizens will become unemployed in their choosen profession as even a petty crime will disqualify them from their industries. Good work indeed! I am sure they have learned thier lesson and now we as taxpaying can start paying them umemployement and can begin destroying their lives!
I am glad our police departments are so well funded that they are able offer us this excellant protection! I will not worry about another murder ever being commited here or gang violence on the streets thanks to these brave mean and women of the lowcountry.
April 8, 2008 at 5:38 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
ChrisPia (anonymous) says...
Sadislandgirl.. My point was What did the police do wrong..
They investigated a complaint of a neighbor( at the order of the Sheriff I presume)They got a Search warrant from a Judge
A Law (extinct and hated as it may be) was violated.
They went in and secured the scene without beating anyone and did it safely.
They secured the evidence for court without complaints of theft.No complaints of abuse.
Now we all Complain about the Violent crime rate and the 200 year old law and Police to deflect the fact that they knew the law before breaking it for 10 months.. I think in 10 monthsof this going on maybe you could could have tried to get this law revised or abolished. But you would have to email them to get this done.All your typing blaming the Police should be directed at the Lawmakers for allowing this ridiculus law on the books and yourself.... Now revising this law might not get the results you like.....Get R done...The law is ludicrus.
April 8, 2008 at 5:40 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
ChrisPia (anonymous) says...
And sadjamesislandgirl.. I been emphasizing about the violent crime for close to a year now on this site . I agree there are better things to do...But a complaint by a taxpaying citizen had to be investigated. Just as you would like it done when police came for your calls. BASH the LAW not The Police...That's All I ask...
April 8, 2008 at 6:31 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
scrisn (anonymous) says...
Like i said earlier they were trying to take assets to pay for 10 months. they took 40k, it will never be returned, and in 6 months you can buy those chips at the public auction. It's win win for them.
Yes we are wrong for gambling but so is 95% of everyone here, speeding, jaywalking, the stupid 200 year old sex law. So give them slaps on the wrist pay a fine $200 bucks and move on.
Full fledge SWAT, and then the same decetives sitting there with masks on is just wrong. Do we not have the right to face our accussers? I beleive so, and have been hundreds of times in court and never been able to hide from the defendants of a case. maybe it's the inside source got pissed cause he lost some money. He showed his tells and decided he was going to get em.
BTW there was a final four pool going around the court house for $5.00 pool. This is great fun, guess we can be selective on those we prosecute or persecute.
Great job of taking the heat from the highway patrol, now SC really looks stupid on national tv.
April 8, 2008 at 6:37 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
ChrisPia (anonymous) says...
Thomas1776...They did their Job According to the law.Officers used the masks to protect their Identity So they Don't get identified in present and future cases.. Are You against this? Or Just anti-police, anti-government ,secessionist?
Tell what Sheriff You Voted for?
April 8, 2008 at 6:41 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
justafan (anonymous) says...
ChrisPia, you keep saying the same thing "what would you like the police to do? They did nothing wrong."
What we would like the police to do is use some common sense. At any point in the 10 month investigation it must have crossed their mind to ask, what the hell are we doing?
Discretion is the better part of valor.
April 8, 2008 at 7:09 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
TacrolimusAddict (anonymous) says...
"Half of the $40,000 seized that night came from Reyes' personal safe in his bedroom. Other money was taken from the wallets of the players, he said." A small business ,Heating and Air is an interesting part of this story. Was this poker winnings or small AC jobs paid for with cash. I think the Tax Man would be interested in $20,000.00 cash stashed in the bedroom.
April 8, 2008 at 7:40 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
amholsclaw (anonymous) says...
It feels so good seeing ccpd getting bad guys.They spent 10 mths to get all the write guys...Im still counting nine years 9 YEARS and still no justice for Tina, Makes you wonder maybe it is about money!!These guys are bad guys?How many have they killed?how much drugs were in the house? It makes things clear why my sister has no justice they would have to talk with all the bad guys and would be seen..Mr Cannon can my family have the same amount of officers on my sisters case for 10 mths? Maybe then we could find some justice?This is a sad waste of time not at any point did they save are better someones life!
April 8, 2008 at 7:43 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
buttercup (anonymous) says...
You go Chris still love ya "S"
April 8, 2008 at 8:43 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
wonderdog (anonymous) says...
We damn the cops for doing their jobs, and we damn them when we think they are not doing their jobs.
I doubt that a bunch of cops just got together and decided to bust a gambling business.......the raid was a command from a higher up, who got a command from a higher up, etc.
If you don't like a law, don't blame the cop for enforcing it. He is sworn to enforce it and will get fired if he doesn't. Contact your legislator if you want a law changed or abolished. I really don't care if people are gambling, but I don't blame law enforcement for doing their jobs.
April 8, 2008 at 8:54 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
baltimoreraven (anonymous) says...
what is the deal with the sheriffs terror tactic. going in with masks and guns drawn vs people with poker chips and playing cards? and then to make a circus out of a misdeamoner and ruin peoples lives and reputation by calling the media to tape the "costume party" then they tell the media how many warrents are left and there are other suspects to be picked up. why not tell those people who they are. they tell the media after they are booked and ticketed anyway
April 8, 2008 at 9:02 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
abitskeptical (anonymous) says...
All you people who are grousing about how the police wasted so much time and effort with this gambling arrest need to think about how much safer we all are now that this mass arrest has been accomplished. Just think how much safer we are now that those rich people have been arrested in that private residence. Just think how much danger we unknowingly have been in by those rich people having all that cash using it for unapproved activities. And just think of how the children there are now so much safer now now that their parents have been chastened for improper use of their own cash which we all know is ill gotten because #1 its cash, #2 its more than we have, and #3 oh well, because the police said so by taking it.
I know I feel so much safer and better off now that this untaxed gambling has been STOPPED but now that I have found out that this horrible activity had been underway for so long I feel so victimized. I sure hope that all of us victims who didn't have as much cash as these gambling criminals had get restitution.
April 8, 2008 at 9:16 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
truckman (anonymous) says...
According to the law, ANY game involving dice or cards is illegal. So for all you "THE LAW IS THE LAW" people, have you ever played monopoly in SC? Yes? You broke the law. Yahtzee, illegal. Parchisi, illegal. Sorry, illegal. Uno, illegal. Dungeons and Dragons, illegal. So the law is the law. If you believe that so completely when can we expect you to turn yourself in to the authorities?
April 8, 2008 at 9:27 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
T_La (anonymous) says...
It's an old Law that needs to be changed. Vote and contact your local legislators/Senators. Just blogging will not make this change. How many of you all vote? As far as the police officiers, THANK YOU for your underpaid service and showing up and getting involved in other peoples problems. No one is perfect but we all need to try to do the right thing. Being an Officier /Solicitor who is to uphold the law to only break it is NOT doing the right thing.Sorenson easily defended the current First Circuit Solicitor's Office on comments candidiate Ben Lafond made in regards to his boss Pascoe and critized Lafonds comments challenging him. Look at you now. Breaking the law, unemployed and smearing the First Circuit. It's true, the 1st Circuit deserves nothing less so I'll place my "bet" on Benjy Lafond for First Circuit Solicitor.
April 8, 2008 at 10:41 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Ralph (anonymous) says...
It's against the law, I get it. What I do not get is how these guys got in more trouble for playing cards than the people that adopted 6 abused foster kids and then tourtured, neglected and abused them beyond comprehension and DSS and the Solicitor's office did NOTHING because it was too complicated. WHAT IS WRONG WITH THIS PICTURE?
April 8, 2008 at 10:46 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
BulldogTLC (anonymous) says...
Thomas1776: "Any person engaged in a trade or employment in which a mask is worn for the purpose of ensuring the physical safety of the wearer or because of the nature of the occupation, trade or profession;"
This is where they would be exempt from this law. They are undercover cops who are protecting their identity for their own safety.
April 8, 2008 at 11 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
T_La (anonymous) says...
The picture is already wrong ...you just don't always have the right people in office to "fix" the picture(to prosecute the crimes that are deemed "important" to the eyes of society). The wrong message is being given if violent crimes are being plea bargained by the Solicitors office without the input of the arresting officer. You then have these "it makes no sense" article about an old law receiving more attention and a what some would say a "friendly card game..in the privacy..." being the biggest headline in Charleston. Officers getting critized and "professionals" who knew the law but still broke it being defended by the public. I want to read headlines of our officiers making arrests and the State Solicitors office bringing criminals down wihtout having to plea bargain.
April 8, 2008 at 11:14 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
bluecollar (anonymous) says...
This is exactly what was needed to help expedite the legalization of home poker games. I can't wait to get in line to purchase my "Home Poker License" at the county auditor's office and have my property tax increase by 10% for registering with the state to host games at my home.
Be careful of what you ask for....just exercise better judgment (greed will get you every time) and you don't need a $300-$1000 buy-in to play Texas Hold'em for "fun".
I truly believe that Law Enforcement wouldn't have bothered if it truly was a friendly game after 10 months of investigating, plus they made enough to buy 2 more Mustang GT cruisers! ;)
April 8, 2008 at 11:26 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
BillMan (anonymous) says...
The only 2 names I care about are the City of Charleston cop and the deputy solicitor! They will be banned from there professions forever! 2 bad apples picked to the core! Justice has been served for the taxpayer! Everyone else pay your $200 fine and move on!
April 9, 2008 at 12:10 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
BillMan (anonymous) says...
I'm all for law enforcement, in fact I have contributed to the FOP fund year after year, what I cannot stand is my tax money paying to keep criminals in law enforcement! Mr policeman (Michael McElveen) and deputy solicitor (Don Sorenson) are now acused criminals and will not be in their line of work anymore! Victory for the taxpayer! Always keep the number of the internal affairs division of your local law enforcement agency handy, we are going to clean house!
April 9, 2008 at 12:18 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
BillMan (anonymous) says...
And TP is the man! If you run for office I will vote for you!
April 9, 2008 at 12:25 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
BKLYNIRISH (anonymous) says...
"BKLYNIRISH- I see your point, but i was probably 20-30 yards from the scene and the guy was in cuffs immediately, before any kind of i.d. check could be run."
TP, you are still without enough information to make any judgement call on that situation. I gave you one of many instances where the application of restraints would have been wholly appropriate.
The folks here that are so quick to speak ill of Sheriff Cannon haven't a clue. The accolades that man receives on a regular basis are well-earned, and I am proud to have a man of his caliber (no pun intended) serving the Lowcountry.
April 9, 2008 at 4:38 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
ChrisPia (anonymous) says...
Thomas1776... And If You want to be Technical about the way that law is written.. There is no time frame mentioned as to ensuring there physical safety.
April 9, 2008 at 7:09 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
charlene68 (anonymous) says...
ChrisPea.... what about the law that a man can beat his wife , that is still on the books, but yet when it is criminal domestic violence between husband and wife, Dont you say that is double jeapordy... explain that one if you so much think the law needs to be strictly abided by.... You are saying then that a man has a right to do so? come on Chris explain that one??? I am waiting to hear the response big guy...
April 9, 2008 at 8:53 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
charlene68 (anonymous) says...
Chrispea,,,I mean to say that when a man hits his wife he is locked up so that is double jeapordy... cause the law says he has the right to do so ( the old law) so im waitin for an explanation....
April 9, 2008 at 8:55 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
charlene68 (anonymous) says...
Chrispea... what about this one,,,I think maybe you need to report this crime to the cops so they can go bust children for it in their little mask and guns..... now really here is a good one... Ready ? ok .. here you go ....
SECTION 20-7-8915. Playing pinball machines.
It is unlawful for a minor under the age of eighteen to play a pinball machine.
April 9, 2008 at 9:04 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
PTI4Ben (anonymous) says...
Stand828,
You went to law school with Benji? That was during the time he got arrested for assaulting a cop right?
T_LA,
I find it hard to believe any prosecutor would try more cases in one year than all the prosecutors in the county did in over three years. Sounds like Benji is full of a lot of hot air.
April 9, 2008 at 9:04 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
charlene68 (anonymous) says...
Chrispea....... Remember.... The Law is the Law
April 9, 2008 at 9:05 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
ChrisPia (anonymous) says...
Charlene68...I came from NY a year ago. I did not make these laws and didn't have to enforce them. And Mostof them I'm Hearing for The first time.... My point is Why are these stupid laws not reworded or abolished..The lawmakers have put the Officers in a bind Here. They are damned if they do and damned if they don't because some lazy lawmakers have failed to do their jobs.That is where common sense comes in.That laws was written for Gambling But the wording makes it illegal for board games. It should be changed. That is why you have to Vote someone in office that will do the job. Not because He Looks good,Goes to Church,dresses nicely etc..
The Followers of Bill Gothard Believe that women should be submissive to their husbands..I Believe a woman should be put on a pedestal and respected .We have Followers of This Cult and Others in Office for decades..I believe I have been fighting this nonsense.
By The Way Double jeopardy is being charged For the same crime twice.
April 9, 2008 at 9:33 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
T_La (anonymous) says...
PTI4BEN: In repsonse, No Benjy was not arrested for assulting a cop. Please check the records. If anything, the majority of Benjy's support for the First Circuit are police officiers. As far as the prosecuted cases, these are cases that ACTUALLY went to trial. It's easy for Pascoe to say "x" amount of cases were prosecuted when really you didn't go to trial and made a plea bargain with a criminal. Certain crimes have "serving time" attached to them by law, Pascoe settles for less than this. If he actually did his job and went to trial, First Circuit residents would see the "poor job" he can do. By the way, the username is pretty inmature...are you an adult or a Pascoe supporter?
April 9, 2008 at 1:02 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
T_La (anonymous) says...
Opps. Assaulting not assulting...
THANK YOU SUMMERVILLE PD AND DORCHESTER COUNTY OFFICIERS...Benjy is there for you anyday and anytime!
April 9, 2008 at 1:05 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
T_La (anonymous) says...
Are you serious? What he did was wrong. Simple as that.
April 9, 2008 at 1:39 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
upperend (anonymous) says...
T_La, I wouldn't "bet" the house just yet. The Vegas spread on that race is 15 pts. for Pascoe. Lol. As for cops supporting the other guy, not on my end of the Circuit.
April 9, 2008 at 2:08 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
ChrisPia (anonymous) says...
upperend, I filed a complaint of harassment with the Dorchester County sheriff and Received a letter From Ray Nash stating that Mr Pascoes office would be looking into it....That was 11/07....Can Someone explain Why I was never contacted or interviewed? Or Was It ever forwarded By Ray Nash?
April 9, 2008 at 2:20 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
PTI4Ben (anonymous) says...
T_LA (interesting??)
My bad, what was Benji arrested for?
Also, I noticed in the article Benji lost more than he won. Since you seen to know a lot about him, could you explain that?
April 9, 2008 at 2:24 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
upperend (anonymous) says...
Chris Pia, I always enjoy reading your posts whether I agree or not. Have you called Pascoe to ask him?
April 9, 2008 at 2:34 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
ChrisPia (anonymous) says...
Tried a couple of times in the beginning never got a response...Even If they thought it was nonsense atleast he should have called Me back or responded after Ray Nash forwarded the letter...Ray Nash responded with a Letter. Is This being Selective in the Law also?
I have also tried to personally deliver my equiptment to a Dorchester County Captain in the annex and Told To bring it to the Jail in St. George.I Live In Summerville and didn't want to drive all the way to the jail. I have written letters for them to pick it up and presently I am charging them 10 Dollars a Day as I wrote in the Letter for storage fees....I revealed Safety Issues and MRSA issues at the jail for the safety of the Officers and refused to tell them my source...Did I do something Evil or wrong Here?
April 9, 2008 at 4:31 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
4HomePoker (anonymous) says...
Chris Pia,
Just to clear things up there was not a complaint by a neighbor. They learned of this game from a confidential informant that we the tax payers were paying to play cards in another game. Of all the oustanding warrants only 2 were for something other than playing poker. The warrants were issued prior to the bust from the 10 month investigation of the other 2 poker games at the southrail address and the office address. These warrants were issued but not served just prior to the raid of Mr. Reyes home. It worked out well because it looked like these were all criminals of some sort when in fact it was just the same people playing cards that were playing when the sherrifs department had their CI on the inside. Had they served those warrants prior to Mr. Reyes game the poker community would have know something was up. By not serving them and announcing that 12 of the 26 arrested had outstanding warrants they successfully mislead the public again.
By the way adultry is a crime in SC lets set up a task for that and spend some more tax payor money chasing cheating spouses. Oh and sodomy is illegal lets get some of these guys to go undercover for that one!!!!! They can get screwed like we are!!!!! LOL
April 9, 2008 at 4:34 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
ChrisPia (anonymous) says...
I don't get the adultery and sodomy parts. Please Clarify.You mentioned this twice.
April 9, 2008 at 5:26 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
ChrisPia (anonymous) says...
4Homepoker ..That is what the media reported. (neighbor). So if you have other info Fine...
April 9, 2008 at 5:29 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
ChrisPia (anonymous) says...
4 Homepoker... I don't know if you read All of My posts But I'll try to catch you up.
I am For legalized Gambling. I am Not for cop bashing when they were doing there jobs Legally.. they did not steal,kick beat,Use a racial slur etc..
The law needs to be abolished or re-written. contact your lawmakers.
theses officers did their job under the law whether you think it's bad or not. I think it's ridiculous the way it's written and never changed over the years and it's constant use...
The lawmakers need to do their jobs.
And one should obey the Law as written till changed or face the punishment.
April 9, 2008 at 5:35 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
ChrisPia (anonymous) says...
And please don't keep saying a knock on the door by the police would have ended this.Because some were arrested last year I believe for the same thing as reported.The violent crime rate as I have reported in the past is out of control... I have always agreed and made many points on this issue and have been met with answers like I have 36% less crime than the counties next to us...Ridiculous
April 9, 2008 at 5:59 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
4HomePoker (anonymous) says...
Chris,
I was just referring to another law on the books in South Carolina that refers to Adultery being illegal as well as sodomy(refered to as buggery on the books). I keep hearing "the law is the law", so why do we not have a task force to enforce these laws. The Tax payers would never agree to pay for a task force to enforce these laws I would hope.
April 11, 2008 at 11:17 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
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