Mount Pleasant bans smoking
By Prentiss Findlay
Reader poll
Did Mount Pleasant go too far in banning smoking?
- Yes. Government intrusion is out of control 41% 375 votes
- No. I should not have to breathe other people's smoke. 58% 538 votes
913 total votes.
MOUNT PLEASANT — Town Council voted 7-2 Tuesday night to approve an ordinance to ban smoking in indoor workplaces, including bars and restaurants.
The ordinance will take effect Sept. 1. Businesses may apply to the town for a 90-day extension to comply with the new law. The maximum fine is $100 per violation. Businesses will be responsible for enforcing the new law.
Councilmen Billy Swails and Kruger Smith voted against the ordinance. Swails said the town should wait until lawsuits against Charleston and Sullivan's Island over their smoking ordinances are settled. He noted that council previously voted to not take final action on the issue until January.
"Let's let the system work for us. We had an agreement, and now we're changing the whole thing. It needs to be done in a fair and equitable way," Swails said.
Councilman Paul Gawrych argued in favor the smoking ordinance. "People's lives are in danger," he said.
Smith said the town needs to exempt private clubs. He said he couldn't bring himself to tell veterans who had fought for their country that they couldn't smoke at a VFW post.
No business owners were present to speak against the ordinance.
Charleston plans to implement its indoor workplace smoking ban July 23. A group of affected businesses have filed suit against the city.
"I think a lot of us are going to be in some serious trouble," said Lawson Roberts, owner of the club Tonik. "People like to have a cigarette with a cocktail."
Roberts said he favored an unsuccessful proposal in the Legislature that would have given clubs the right to buy a smoking license while imposing a statewide ban on smoking in restaurants. He said the situation is a Catch-22 because police discourage crowds outside of clubs but under the new ordinance people would have to go outside to smoke.
The state Clean Indoor Air Act already bans smoking in schools, health care facilities, government buildings, public transportation, theaters and performing arts centers.
Sullivan's Island and Charleston both have a maximum fine of $500 and/or 30 days in jail for their smoking ordinance. Mount Pleasant dropped its maximum fine from $500 and/or 30 days in jail to $100 and no jail time.
The local ordinances exempt private residences and smoking rooms at hotels and motels. Mount Pleasant and Charleston allow smoking on stage as part of a theatrical production. Retail tobacco stores are exempt on Sullivan's Island and in Charleston, which also exempts cigar bars.
The Sullivan's Island smoking ordinance has been in effect since last July. In that time, the town has issued one citation to Bert's Bar, which filed suit against the town. The disposition of the citation will hinge on a decision in the court case, said bar owner Tim Runyon.
Runyon said the effect of the ordinance has been to shift 80 percent of his business outside to the parking lot, where patrons go to smoke after buying a beer. It's made booking bands not worth it anymore, he said. "It's been a struggle," he said.
Circuit Judge Deadra Jefferson upheld the Sullivan's Island ordinance, a decision that Bert's has appealed. The case is expected to be heard by the state Supreme Court, which Runyon hopes will rule in his favor.
"It's another one of those prayers you're waiting to have answered," he said.
Town Councilman Everett Presson, who sponsored the smoking ordinance, said it has been well-received by island business. "All of the restaurants and bars are very happy with it except Bert's," he said. "I think it's worked very well. This is an idea whose time has clearly come. The public supports it."
Municipal smoking ordinances have been the subject of conflicting circuit court rulings. Judge John Few overruled a smoking ban passed by Greenville City Council.
Hilton Head Island is among nine South Carolina municipalities to pass smoking ordinances. The town recently fined a bartender $750 for two violations under its new smoking ordinance, which provides for a maximum penalty of $500 and/or 30 days in jail.
"Most people are complying," said town prosecutor Brian Hulbert.
Reach Prentiss Findlay at 937-5711 or pfindlay@postandcourier.com.
Comments
deputy007 (anonymous) says...
I am totaly disgusted with politicians creating new laws ie; smoking ban. Its ok to send young men and women to fight and die only to tell them you cant smoke when you come back home ! Yet the same ones that make that law are probably holding their cocktails in their hands at 6pm and get in their cars and drive. I am convinced we are ruled by morons. I served 27 years in the military now I am told "you cant smoke here !" Is that what I served my country for freedom of choice?
June 13, 2007 at 8:23 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
greyghost51 (anonymous) says...
Ridiculous! Politicians out of control ! In a free society (?) people can police themselves with issues like this.
June 13, 2007 at 8:51 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
lisagary (anonymous) says...
People, PLEASE come into the 21st century, for crying out loud. Smoking is not, and never will be, a right. It is a choice that endangers the life of not only the person who chooses to do it, but it endangers MY life if you are permitted to do it in the place where I make my living. If you as a smoker want to kill yourself, fine, but do it in your own home or your own car. Deputy007, you served your country because you made the choice to go into the military as your career; that was the freedom of choice that you exercised over your own life. However, when you choose a habit that knowingly endangers the lives of people around you who choose not to partake in that habit, then whose freedom is really at risk? And by the way, as someone who travels all over the country, I've seen the tremendous success experienced by all the clubs and restaurants in cities where smoking is banned; those are dividends that will pay off here as well. Smoking is a deadly, dangerous, backward relic of a habit; kudos to Mount Pleasant for finally seeing the light; here's hoping all of greater Charleston will soon be permanently smoke-free in ALL public places.
June 13, 2007 at 10:53 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
WatchfulVoter (anonymous) says...
i hope this issue is more important to the politicians involved than their collective re-election... especially those who have severed public trust by reversing position. Citizens of Mt. P., get ready to finance the certain lawsuits that will arise from the overzealous impatience of our lawmakers.
Tides will be turning on the overbearing politicians in Mt. P.
June 13, 2007 at 11:05 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
srogers (anonymous) says...
Seriously people - smoking kills - period. It's not taking away rights from smokers - it's (finally) giving rights to those who don't smoke. No one said people have to stop smoking - they just have to inconvenience themselves by stepping outside. The same inconvenience non-smokers have had to do for all of these years if they wanted fresh air.
June 13, 2007 at 2:23 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
TU (anonymous) says...
My two cents. As a smoker, non-smoker, smoker, non-smoker, here's what I suggest:
Let a bar/restaurant have smoking if it chooses. Public buildings = NO. My reasoning is this: Bars and restaurants are choices. You can choose to go to one that is smoking or non-smoking. Public buildings, you may not have a choice. So, they should be smoke free.
Also, before anyone says something about the wait staff in the places that smoke, just quit and work somewhere where there is not smoke. If you hated the people you worked with you'd probably quit and find another job, so do the same here.
June 14, 2007 at 4:57 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
palmetto (anonymous) says...
This is idiotic.
It is amazing how readily people will infringe on the private property rights of others.
First off, I am a non-smoker. I find the habit filthy and it disgusts me. I workout/run 5 days a week, eat high protein/fiber foods and drink lots of water. I believe in a healthy body and mind.
That being said, I also love Freedom and don't wish to be saved from myself.
As for the smoking issue, people tend to forget that restaurants are private property. They are no different from your house. People own restaurants.
People don't have to go to restaurants they don't like, be it because of smoke, service, atmosphere etc. If you don't like the PRIVATE property you are going to, CEASE going there! Public means OWNED by the public as in government offices: and there, it should be illegal.
It seems that some people want their way like children and have found that with enough votes they will have the police force on their side.
One group of people has had its rights stripped because another group of people had the power. Bottom line.
Welcome to the nanny state.
Sieg Heil.
June 15, 2007 at 10:04 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
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