Cause of crash remains elusive
'I can't remember anything like this,' patrolman says; positive identification of 4 of 5 victims proving difficult
By Dave Munday
The Post and Courier
The tractor-trailer involved in the I-526 accident was a 2007 Freightliner Columbia that was put into service in December 2006. It had been driven about 48,000 miles when it was last serviced in mid-June
It could be weeks before officials can say exactly what caused the eight-car pileup and fiery explosion that killed five people on a North Charleston entrance ramp to the Mark Clark Expressway during the Friday rush hour.
"It's going to be a while on this one," Highway Patrol Lance Cpl. Bob Beris said Saturday. "There were eight vehicles involved, and they were all over the place."
It started at 4:31 p.m., amid the influx of traffic from North Rhett Avenue toward Interstate 26. An 18-wheeler slammed into the rear of a car merging onto Interstate 526. The car and a van went under the empty refrigerated Ryder truck. Another car was trapped between the truck and a wall that runs along the entrance ramp.
The truck exploded in flames that consumed the van and two cars. The heat was so intense that it blackened and buckled a light pole near the road.
The occupants of the van and the cars were killed. Whether they died from the trauma or the flames is not yet clear, Charleston County Coroner Rae Wooten said Saturday.
The truck driver was not hurt.
Four other cars were also caught in the chain reaction. Four occupants were taken to Medical University Hospital. Two remained hospitalized Saturday, one in critical condition.
"I've been on the force 14 years, and I can't remember anything like this," Beris said.
The number of cars and the fire are making it hard for police to piece together the precise chain of events, Beris said. No charges have been filed. It will be days or weeks before police know enough to decide who was at fault, he said.
Officials said Friday that they thought the truck was leased and that its trailer was empty. Messages left for Ryder representatives have not been returned.
All the lanes on that section of the expressway were closed for nearly 10 hours after the wreck. The road reopened at 2:19 a.m. Saturday, Beris said.
The coroner's office examined the victims, but the intensity of the fire is making it hard to identify some of them, Wooten said.
"This is a very complicated issue," she said. "We had very little to work with."
She released the names of the five victims Saturday, with the caution that at least one of the names is tentative.
Gary Gross, 45, of the Moncks Corner area died in the car between the truck and the wall. He was positively identified through fingerprints and by family members, Wooten said.
Aniket Shrikhande, 25, died in a car underneath the truck. He was identified through vehicle registration and materials in the car.
Friends also contacted family members, who said they think it was him. A man who said he is Shrikhande's uncle sent The Post and Courier an e-mail saying Shrikhande is from Mumbai, India, and had been working in the Charleston area as an engineer for the past seven months.
The identities of a woman and two men who died in the van under the truck are still less clear. A citizen whom officials did not identify told the officials he knew the three people in the van, and that provided a starting point. None of their ages was available Saturday.
Kajsa Barnette is from the Rock Hill area. Officials found her name on her driver's license. They contacted family members, who said they think it was her.
Elmore James is from Lexington County. Officials could find no driver's license or identifying documents, but family members said it could have been him in the wreck.
The citizen told officials he thought the third victim's name was Clinton Seabrook. He's a black male, and that's all officials have to go on right now, Wooten said. They're asking people who might know whether Seabrook was in the crash — or was not in the crash — to call the coroner's office at 746-4030.
Tenisha Waldo contributed to this report.Reach Dave Munday at 745-5862 or dmunday@postandcourier.com.
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Bill_Kane (anonymous) says...
I had a frieng tell me that that exit was a accident waiting to happen. I think the whole area is screwed up just by the way you have to get onto the hiway from that turn.
July 15, 2007 at 2:27 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
usualsuspect (anonymous) says...
Dear Concerned:
I am truly sorry for the loss of your daughter and I cannot comprehend the suffering that you and your family endured. Yes, what transpired yesterday was a great tragedy. Yes, it may not be 100% the truck driver's fault. Yes, it may very well be an accident - but with great power comes great responsibility. Jamndi made an excellent point - a truck driver's profession is exactly that - driving. MSNBC reported on this accident tonight and asserted that it was indeed the truck driver who acted recklessly and negligently based upon eyewitness reports (If you have TIVO check out channel 365 - the story has been running at least once every hour). I am naturally a skeptic - so I will wait until the official report comes out before I label anyone as the catalyst of such a horrific tragedy. But, as Jamndi seemed to infer earlier with his post, truck drivers are professional drivers - skilled and specially trained to operate such vehicles. TO ALL TRUCK DRIVERS - PLEASE DONT BE OFFENDED - I APPRECIATE WHAT YOU DO AND I AM NOT PLACING BLAME! However, as professional drivers, truck drivers should know or have reason to know of the dangers and risks posed by large trucks - and if, ONLY IF, the report comes out to reveal the truck driver was at fault, I believe that he or she should be held accountable. I agree with jamndi in that respect, but I do respect and appreciate the opinions of his dissenters. Maybe we should all listen to BOTH sides instead of bickering over what is right or wrong when NONE of us know what really happened. Moreover, we (I won't mention names) should not malign and degrade those who have differing opinions. For what it's worth, I will keep ALL families in my prayers and I will hold out personal judgments until further details are released.
July 15, 2007 at 3:53 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
chucktownguy58 (anonymous) says...
GREAT COMMENT USUALSUSPECT! I usually don't add to these discussions, but I completely agree. Also, MSNBC is on channel 356 if you have DIRECT TV - probably just a typo
July 15, 2007 at 4:09 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Zod (anonymous) says...
I do not think the comments made yesterday was accurate at all. These were the comments:
"These truck drivers use the roads as their own and bully all other smaller vehicles around our highways."
"With such a police presence in the low country, as many people as you see pulled over on the sides of our roads and as many maverick truckers out there, how many of them do you actually see stopped for anything - ever?? This seriously needs to change."
"I do know that in alot of cases that these large trucks follow behind me (and other car drivers) much too closely, and sometimes feel that I am indeed bullied around on the road, mostly because my car is smaller."
What was referenced is "following to closely". The truck was not following the car. The car was merging on the interstate from an on ramp. It had nothing to do with following to closely. It had nothing to do with a high rate of speed. The accident was all about a merge. None of these comments made yesterday were "on point".
I am drawing from a vague memory of this on ramp but as I recall you cannot see cars on the on ramp. They simply appear from behind the on ramp's wall. Then they have about 100-150 feet to get up to speed and merge on the interstate.
I am also drawing a conclusion from a today's poorly written article. From this account, I gather that the car appeared from behind that wall and merged at a relatively slow rate of speed. If these circumstances were not the case - If the truck simply ran into the back of the car from being unattentive - then the "merge" was not worth mentioning in the article. My guess is that the "wreckless" and "negligent" portion of the truck drivers actions was not knowing that the Department of Transportation built a disappearing act for an on ramp to an interstate.
At any rate, the comments yesterday had nothing to do with the accident if this situation was a merge. "Following to closely" lasted for all of one second.
July 15, 2007 at 6:23 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
eldellinger (anonymous) says...
To Zod.....anyone that has lived in the Charleston area for any length of time knows that between 7:00 to 9:00 AM and 4:00 to 7:00PM traffic can come to a complete stop at any time. As a "professional" truck driver with a higher view this guy has no excuses. Speed and neglect was the cause of this terribly tragic accident.
July 15, 2007 at 7:44 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
sing01 (anonymous) says...
It's time the highway department take a long hard look at how truck drivers are utilizing I-526. The merge at that intersection is poorly designed and as I tell visitors to this area, 526 is a death trap. Truckers think nothing of driving over 80mph & daring others to get in their way. Additionally there are truck lanes on the bridges which go unused or are used by drivers as a racetrack. Knowing the highway might have helped in this instance but I doubt it, as traffic is usually at a standstill by 4pm along that stretch of highway.
July 15, 2007 at 8:14 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
secwind7 (anonymous) says...
While we do not know the exact cause of the accident at this time,It opens the door to further conversation regarding same. It raises the issue about trucks on I-526 & the volume of trucks on I-526. I myself have had many instances in the last 10 years or so regarding trucks and how they seem to push their way around.Imagine yourself behind the wheel of a very fast powerful car. That car tends to make you want to dominate the road.The power of the motor,the big tires etc. You see it all the time on the road. The police cant be everywhere. The big trucks, while some truck drivers are very careful, just like anything else, you have truck drivers who push the limit. Getting there on or before time and driving the "big rig" has a feeling of power,and it is huge in comparison to a car.I have also pulled a large wells cargo trailer behind my car and I know that the average auto driver doesnt understand that with a fully loaded trailer, you cant just stop when someone in a car pulls out in front of you. it will make you bite your tongue everytime. Some say trucks and cars should be on seperate roads. Especially when you have that much traffic going back and forth to the port. What i am saying is, there is no one out there that is keeping tabs on these big rig drivers and their driving skills & courtesy to others,And not all auto drivers are courtous in return.Something must be done to regulate them better. It needs to start with the state legislature and go from there. Some people wont drive the interstate anymore because of the big trucks concern.When do we finally do something?How many people will die in an car/truck accident befor it is too much.
The time is now. Lets do something. I hope some state official will read this and agree.(and start the ball rolling)
John
July 15, 2007 at 9:11 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
iam1redhotbabe (anonymous) says...
As an agent specializing in truckers insurance for nearly ten years, I can safely say, most truck drivers out there are professionals. Not everyone can avoid an accident no matter the level of your driving skill. I'm not saying every accident involving a truck is to no blame of the trucker, but you'd be surprised that a great majority are due to other vehicles on the road.
I don't believe we need have seperate roads--aren't banks and condos taking up enough of our land? I just believe everyone should offer the same amount of respect they would like shown to them. People should get off their phones, stop stuffing their face on the way to their next meeting, or wait until they make a stop to put their lipstick on or mess with the radio. We're all guilty of it, but no one stops to think of it until it's that one second you look away from the road that causes an accident.
I don't believe that truckers are road bullies either. Many times these accidents are cause by passenger vehicles who don't respect the power of the big rigs. I see them hang out in the "no zone" (for those of you who keeping speaking of how horrible truckers are, if you don't know EXACTLY what that is it's something you should research). I've seen so many cars cut off a simi in their rush to get to their destination, without thinking twice about how much space he needs to stop--especially tanker trucks with liquid pushing their rigs forward.
The truckers are regualted much more than the common person knows and I think everyone should give them a break. Should this accident turn out to be the truckers fault--which no one has proven yet--he will forever live with the scars of this accident. It's called an accident for a reason and no amount of Monday quarterbacking is going to change the outcome, only people who decide to be more aware of truckers and their road needs, as well as improving their own driving skills.
My hearts go out to everyone who lost someone in the accident. My prayers are with you.
July 15, 2007 at 9:50 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
bradjosh (anonymous) says...
I want to first say how sorry I am for the family and friends that lost loved ones in this tragic accident.
While I am not laying fault to anyone in this situation, I would like to point out a few things. I know that there are truck drivers out there that are not safe, but there are plenty of car/vehicle drivers that are equally not as safe. I know from driving in my personal vehicle that I may be trying to maintain a safe following distance, but someone will think that that space is being save especially for them and will pull over no matter what and many times then slam on the brakes to stop or turn. What people do not seem to realize is that it takes a big truck a long time to stop.
These drivers are pulling sometimes 70, 80 or 90 THOUSAND pounds and stopping on a dime is not in the cards. But many drivers think they can pull out or come to a complete stop in front of them. I know of an instance where a big truck driver was maintaining their safe following distance and someone pulled over in that "following distance spot" he was apparently saving, and before the truck driver could regain their following distance, the car that was about three ahead slammed on breaks and caused the other to cars to stop, but because first car took his spot, the truck driver could not stop in time. Now who is really at fault? The driver who slammed on the breaks, the driver who took the truck driver's following distance spot, or the truck driver? I believe that the person that decided that he deserved the spot should be at fault. But guess what? It was, of course, the truck drivers fault.
When there is an accident involving a train and car, is the train ever at fault? No, because it is usually someone who thinks he can out run or out maneuver a vehicle that weights thousands of pounds. I think that should be taken into consideration when big trucks are in an accident.
The last thing I would like to point out is in regard to the amount of truckers on the roads around Charleston. For hunderds of years, Charleston has be considered a port town. It was first a port and should always remain a port city. I do not think people realize the amount of revenue that the ports and drivers bring to this area, and they are always getting put down. We cannot expand our ports because people do not want the trucks around, but Charleston has been called "Port City" for awhile and for a reason. And the next time you would like to think too badly about those truck drivers, remember, there are no boat docks or train tracks that run up to the back of your favorite stores, if it weren't for these truck drivers, there would be nothing there to buy.
July 15, 2007 at 10:07 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
robeweise (anonymous) says...
Didn't the article say the truck in question was a Ryder truck? You guys realize that anyone with a normal driver's license can rent these trucks. Seems like all the discussion on truck drivers is a little out of place here.
July 15, 2007 at 10:47 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
robeweise (anonymous) says...
Oops, just re-read the article. I see an 18 wheeler caused another car to go under a Ryder truck. Nevermind.
July 15, 2007 at 10:48 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
LUCHINI33 (anonymous) says...
ARE THE TRAFFIC CAMERAS BROKEN?
July 15, 2007 at 11:24 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Renee (anonymous) says...
My prayers go out to the family and friends of the people that were killed in Friday's accident, and to those who were injured. I live in the Hanahan/Goose Creek area, and take N. Rhett to 526 often. In the last few months, I cannot count the times I was almost involved in an accident. The merge lane (at this entrance)is practically nonexistent. The drivers coming from Mt. Pleasant are flying, and WILL NOT, for the life of them, let you merge in. I do not allow my teenage daughter use that entrance, she has to take the interstate. I have now decided that I will no longer use it, and will also be taking the interstate. It's such a shame that we have to go out of our way to get to West Ashley because our state officials will not do their part in making this area safer. I hope they will now look at the design, and make some improvements to that so called "merge lane" before more people have to die. One last thing, maybe the Highway Patrol and local police departments (North Charleston & Charleston County)can send some officers there to help out with the idiots who think they are Nascar drivers.
July 15, 2007 at 11:36 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
mamasbabygrl35 (anonymous) says...
I have been sitting here and reading the comments on the accindent that happened on Friday and I see that there are alot of uneducated people making comments about truck drivers! I am a port driver that travels I26 as well as I526 Mon - Fri. I have seen big trucks and passager CARS as well that push there way around the interstates. There has been many times that I am creeping along at 5mph to let the passanger cars in when merging on the interstate. And I dont just let 1 car in and push my way through. I will let 5 to 6 cars in and keep creeping and there will ALWAYS be 1 or 2 cars almost scrapping my bumper to get infront of my Big Truck. Now to all that keep saying that Trucks need more regulations. I say go and purchase a DOT Regulations Guide and then tell me that WE the TRUCK DRIVER need more REGULATIONS! We have so many rules that it is UNREAL.
The truck driver has so many things he or she has to watch out for. There has been many of times that I have had to smoke my brakes trying to come to a stop (and I had a very good cusion between me and the car or truck infront of me). All the while I am looking for another place I can move my TRUCK like the next lane (but that has a car running over the speed limit) or looking that the ditch, bridge wall (and pray to God that it will stop me) or anywhere else that a person or a persone that has children in their backseat won't get hit and possible hurt or killed. Now I ask you: "When has it gotten to point that I have to choose to possible hurt or kill myself?" I know I have choosen my profession but I have a family that would like to see me come home. Just like your families would like to see you come home everynight. But to the cars that think that their destinations are more important the mine or any other trucker out there. EVERYONE has places to be and if you have to speed to get there LEAVE earlier to give you the extra time so you are not late. It is my job to do my job safely, but I and other Truck Driver need your help and curtiousy to do OUR jobs SAFELY.
July 15, 2007 at noon ( permalink | suggest removal )
eldellinger (anonymous) says...
Has anyone asked the truck driver what happened?
July 15, 2007 at 1:01 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Zod (anonymous) says...
".....anyone that has lived in the Charleston area for any length of time knows that between 7:00 to 9:00 AM and 4:00 to 7:00PM traffic can come to a complete stop at any time. As a "professional" truck driver with a higher view this guy has no excuses. Speed and neglect was the cause of this terribly tragic accident."
You took a couple of things for granted with these statements. Although the article doesn't have much content about the accident itself, the article does make it clear that MOST of the victims do not "live in Charleston". The familiarity with our traffic patterns YOU SEEK did not exist AT ALL.
I'm still drawing conclusions but I'm a better artist that most - Did you see the big box on the rear of the tractor? That driver has yet to be identified. The big box on the tractor is called a "sleeper cab". The driver of that vehicle could be from any one of the lower 48, Canada, Alska, or soon one could also assume Mexico.
Aniket Shrikhande - He hailed from Mumbia, India. He has been in Charleston for seven months.
Kajsa Barnette from Rock Hill, SC (Charlotte area).
Elmore James is from Lexington County (Columbia area).
So out of the fives names that are currently known, one was from the local area. Even the one "local" lived 30 miles away from the accident scene. Gary Gross was from the Moncks Corner area. I will assume Mr. Seabrook was from Charleston county only because it is a Charleston surname.
With all that said, who among all these drivers "should have known about Charleston traffic?" Specifically, who should have known about this intersection? You have claimed the tractor driver that we know nothing about should have known the circumstances surrounding these ramps. I have given him a pass on at least that fact until we know where he was from. What I do know is that he hit a car in the rear just like cars behind the tractor hit other cars in the rear. Every truck and car that hit someone in the rear was "following to closely" according to law. That is the facts.
What you (and others) have done is become judge and public executioner of the tractor driver as a result of the size of the vehicle. I have refrained from making YOUR assumptions.
July 15, 2007 at 1:21 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
dixieamerican (anonymous) says...
Remember, the article indicated that two vehicles were underneath the tractor. That is quite a bit of force (energy) that caused that to happen. Also, if I get pushed from the rear into the car in front of me, I'm not necessarily following too close. I don't thing there was anything that pushed the tractor-trailer into the vehicle in front, or at least that hasn't been mentioned!
July 15, 2007 at 2:09 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
mamasbabygrl35 (anonymous) says...
dixieamerican- the article does not say that maybe a car pulled out infront of the truck (taking his safety cusion away) not giving him enough room to come to a safe stop either. you need to look at all the angles of what could have happened. but i'm sure you don't want to think that a CAR could do such a thing, but it happens all the time. cars and trucks alike pull out and dont yeild if they cant merge safely during rush hour. we defendently need all the fact before making oppinions on something that is still under investigation.
July 15, 2007 at 3:05 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
charlene68 (anonymous) says...
this was a terrible thing that happened, so many peoples lives taken, but you know what !!! its law no matter how you read it or what the reason is,,,, if someone hits you from behind, then they are responsible, and that is the way it goes... i know sometimes its enevitable but unfortunately that is the law
July 15, 2007 at 4:01 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
cindylou (anonymous) says...
I traveled that exit every weekday for years. It's simple, people need to learn how to drive! You can't try to merge out in front of a huge truck and push your way in on them. It doesn't work, people. I've lived in Charleston almost all my life. Believe me, there are many people who don't deserve a driver's license. You don't have the "right" to merge into traffic just because you have your darned blinker on. You are RESPONSIBLE to control your vehicle at all times. I am very sorry that ANYONE died, it's very sad that lives were lost. I just wish people would put 100% concentration on their driving.
July 15, 2007 at 4:48 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
eldellinger (anonymous) says...
Zod....take a pill!
July 15, 2007 at 5:06 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
cindy (anonymous) says...
I first want too tell the families of these 5 victims how very sorry We are. I am the wife of a Professional Truck Driver and anytime a accident happens involving a semi most people quickly jump too the conclusion it was the truckdrivers fault. Their could be a number of reasons this happened and I think We should let the Professional Investigators come too a decision before We place any blame. Someone could of cut in front of the truckdriver and not given enough distance between them, or because it was a Friday afternoon some of the drivers may have been rushing too get home for the weekend. It could also have been the truckdriver's fault and the Investigators will make that decision. This should be a wakeup call that We all need too be observent of other drivers and road conditions. I am not trying too say their aren't careless truckdrivers because I am sure their are, but I am sure that their are just about as many people driving other vehicles that are careless also.
July 15, 2007 at 5:34 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
dixieamerican (anonymous) says...
Having been an Operations Manager of an interstate trucking company, as well as having a background in accident investigation, as well as having a relative injured in this accident, I want to know the facts. But even if a car did pull in front of this truck, the force it took for this truck to climb on top of two vehicles was pretty severe. If the car made an illegal (or legal) lane change, that could have caused it. If the truck was going too fast, that could have caused it. If the driver was out of hours, that could have caused it. If the driver has a bad driving record, that could have caused it. If the equipment was faulty, that could have caused it. I just want the facts, and then I will be able to determine where the legal fault will rest. The intersection was probably designed according to the standards of the South Carolina Department of Transportation, so that will probably not be the cause. It may not be perfect, but it is probably up to standards. I don't think I have ever traveled this intersection, since I don't live in South Carolina. This accident will either be human error or mechanical failure, or a combination of both. I just want to look at the facts, and not opinions, so I can determine for myself what happened. That's why I'll wait for the official police report. I know that reporters don't have all the facts, so I'm sure a majority of those writing in this space don't, either.
July 15, 2007 at 5:49 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
wonderdog (anonymous) says...
If one wants to find out why Charleston drivers are so bad, go sit in a session of traffic court and see how many bad drivers are let off by the judges. I had to appear for failure to display a month sticker on my plate (it was there but had faded so badly it could not be read). I saw a judge give THREE drivers an extra thirty days to pay their traffic tickets after they had been pulled for speeding and driving with suspended licenses for second and third offenses. Yeah, that'll teach 'em. What that shows is that the police can write tickets (and most speeding tickets are downgraded to a lesser mph over the limit), and the judges show the police that they were wasting their time. If you get a ticket for 15-20 mph over the limit and/or driving irresponsibly in other ways, pay the ticket, get over yourself and thank the cop for stopping you before you kill yourself or someone else.
July 15, 2007 at 6:03 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
katie003 (anonymous) says...
Take it from a truck driver. Because "we sit higher" doesn't make visibility better. We can not see a car that comes off the ramp up our side and then directly infront of our truck. There are several spots even with mirrors we have NO visibility. Beside the passenger door for example where cars love to ride and directly at the front corner of that side of the truck. Dpwn along certain spots on the trailer (these are the NO ZONES)! Also it is YOUR FAULT every time you hit someone in the rear! If MSNBC or CNN knows more than the people investigating they must be psychic. Depending on a persons position at the time it happened depends on what they see. You have to take several eye witness acounts along with skid marks and everything else to put the whole situation together. Someone needs to look at the original plans for I526 and tell me why the lane from N Rhett Does not extend to River's the way the plans first called for, (until they ran out of money)! For those who want us to use the truck lanes let us get to them, and cars stay out of them. Would you rather us use the truck lane or run over the person staying right on our side? We never as truck drivers "DO RIGHT" in the eyes of a 4 wheeler, and yes there are unsafe truck drivers but I guess if you drive a car you are perfect! This intersection is dangerous for both small and large, coming on you are blinded by a curve to whats behind you till its there and if you are on 526 you can't see whats coming off till its there. For those that don't LIKE trucks don't go shopping for a month at a store skavenge for what you need! YOU WILL APRECIATE US THEN!
July 15, 2007 at 9:48 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
brivers (Brandon Rivers) says...
This whole event makes the superstitious day of Friday the 13th seem factual. Especially if the cause of the crash is still unknown.
My heart goes out to all the victims and their families. Very unfortunate.
July 15, 2007 at 10 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
gomezpopi (anonymous) says...
regardless of our individual opinions , can we at least agree to let this tragedy serve as a reminder to us to be more courteous to each other and respect each other and consider that we all have somewhere to be ? the time we get there is not as important, when you consider that five people never made it home friday.there are enough probable causes for accidents,equipment failure,weather,fatigue,some within our control some not. we can only resolve to improve those aspects of our driving within our control and still accidents will happen regardless of precautions,the odds are against us enough without driving like inconsiderate jerks,why would anyone want to push the odds more ?
July 15, 2007 at 10:44 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
JokersWildagain (anonymous) says...
its sad that 5 people lost there lives an my prayers go out to the familys,BUT its not always the truckers fault,there are yeild signs at the end of the ramps an how many people just blow onto the main road talking on cell phones?Alot i see drivers not using commen sence when there driving an not watching whats going on around them everyday,There needs to be a law banning cell phones from drivers,cause its getting bad as driving DUI
July 15, 2007 at 11:36 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
kimmeetee (anonymous) says...
I am so sorry for these tragic, tragic losses; there are so many families and friends that have been affected by this. Please refrain from placing blame on anyone. Let these families grieve.
July 16, 2007 at 1:19 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
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