2 Florida students charged in explosives scare face $800,000 bond
Updated 02:40 p.m., August 6, 2007
The Post and Courier
A bomb squad technician examines items removed from a four door sedan on Highway 176 in Goose Creek early Sunday morning. The FBI is on the scene investigating the suspicious car that was stopped by police Saturday night. A robot, center, removed several items including a backpack, a large gas can, and a red box from the car. The technician crawled on his stomach for a cautious up-close look at several items.
GOOSE CREEK — Pipe bombs were found Saturday in the trunk of a car being driven by two Florida college students, according to court documents.
Now the men will have to post a combined $800,000 in bond to get out of jail, a circuit judge decided this afternoon.
Youseff Megahed, 21, and Ahmed Mohamed, 24, have been charged with possession of an incendiary device, Berkeley County Sheriff Wayne DeWitt announced today. If convicted of the charges, the men could face between 2 to 15 years in prison.
Mohamed's bond was set at $500,000 while Megahed's was set at $300,000.
Berkeley County Sheriff Wayne DeWitt said the men were pulled over Saturday night on U.S. Highway 176 while driving more than 60 mph in a 45-mph zone. When an officer approached the car, he saw one of them men fold a laptop computer, which the officer believed was suspicious, DeWitt said.
The officer asked them if he could search the car, which the men agreed to. When he asked if there was anything in the car he should know about, the men said there were fireworks in the trunk.
At a 1:30 p.m. news conference today in Tampa, a spokesman for the University of South Florida where the men attend said Megahed is an undergraduate student and Mohamed is a civil engineering graduate student, the Tampa Tribune is reporting.
Mohamed is originally from Kuwait and completed his undergrad education in Cairo, according to the Tampa newspaper. He has been at USF since January and was registered for six hours during summer session, the spokesman told the paper.
Megahed, originally from Egpyt, has been enrolled at USF since 2004 and had not declared a major. He was registered for three hours this fall, according to the newspaper.
An Islamic community leader from Tampa, Fla., who's been in touch with the families of the two detained college students, told The Post and Courier that Megahed and Mohamed are not troublemakers and that they a were simply on a weekend trip to North Carolina.
Ahmed Bedier, executive director of the Tampa chapter of the Council on American-Islamic Relations, a civil rights organization for Muslims, said family members have told him they think the materials were leftover fireworks Megahed kept in his trunk since July 4.
"Both of them are really naÃive kids," Bedier said.
He said Megahed is a permanent legal resident of the United States and Mohamed was the passenger. Mohamed's legal status is not known.
"There's a lot of unanswered questions," Bedier said.
A terrorism task force, meanwhile is reviewing the evidence, said FBI spokesman Richard Kolko.
"At this point, it is too early in the investigation to say there is any link to terrorism," Kolko said.
News that explosives were found Saturday shocked residents in Goose Creek, home to the Naval Weapons Station, which houses the U.S. Naval Consolidated Brig, a military prison where enemy combatants have been held.
Reach Noah Haglund at 843-937-5550 or at nhaglund@postandcourier.com.
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A bomb squad robot searches a car on US Highway 176 in Goose Creek Saturday night.
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Slaughtermeyer (anonymous) says...
Reminds me of the "Middle Eastern" men who were caught in the act of trying to blow up the George Washington Bridge with a van full of explosives.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KFyScd...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJZTX8...
(High quality version of the previous report).
http://youtube.com/watch?v=7dBZpeJD1i4
http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/fiv...
August 5, 2007 at 3:39 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
RockSolidRepublican (anonymous) says...
Thank God for our quick acting emergency personnel... they really never recieve enough credit. Had these individuals not been apprehended and a bomb had actually gone off, the public would have begun pointing fingers everywhere except at these idiots who have no respect for life. Sadly, I've yet to meet a person of middle-eastern dissent who has any sort of respect for other people! I've met many, and also worked for two companies owned by middle-eastern families, and the trait is all the same.
Personally, I'd like to wipe the middle east off the map. My husband is in the Air Force and has been over there multiple times, and he quite agrees.
God Bless America, God Bless our leader, President Bush, and God Bless our troops!!!!
August 5, 2007 at 7:09 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Bailey10 (anonymous) says...
The comment made by RockSolidRepublican about middle eastern people shows that ignorance is alive and well in the south. All I can say is God bless her for being so ignorant!
August 5, 2007 at 7:59 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
postman01 (anonymous) says...
"No Thanks", please show some signs of intelligence. Unless you know Mr. Knuoff personally, you are not qualified to judge him due to lack of information. The reporter has conversed with him. You almost certainly have not. As for you, "Bailey 10", there are in fact people from the south that posess superior intelligence and education. Your lack of intelligence is evidenced by your ignorant posting, since the premise of your comments is that all Southerners are stupid, an obvious falsehood. As for you, "Rock Solid Republican", I am sure that you have correctly observed that many Middle Easterners are in fact screwed up individuals; however, this is not true for all of them and you should not give ammunition to the pathetic ignoramuses I critiqued above who are actually stupid enough to buy into a retarded stereotype. "Slaughtermeyer" seems to have his or her act together, since he or she introduces EVIDENCE. Maybe he or she is a lawyer.
August 5, 2007 at 8:14 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Bailey10 (anonymous) says...
Well, postman01, I guess I should reiterate that not all Southerners are ignorant and stupid. I'm very well aware that a lot of people from the south are intelligent and educated. I am a Southerner, educated and quite intelligent myself. Ignorance and bigotry is alive everywhere. The comments that RockSolidRepublican made about wiping Middle Easterners off the face of the map made my blood boil. There is enough violence in this world and there are too many other important issues at hand such as healthcare, bridges, getting this country on the right track than to do something that will never happen like wipe another country off the map. I still stand behind my posting but wanted to clarify that my posting was not intended for Southerners in particular, but for RockSolidRepublican and others that believe the way she does. I agree that not all Middle Easterners are bad people just like not all Americans are bad. You have a bad batch in any ethinicity. I hope this helps clarify my original posting.
August 5, 2007 at 8:31 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Jessica78 (anonymous) says...
My husband and I saw this developing story on CNN at 10pm last night; It was "breaking news". Though they had a lack of information, they were certainly trying to give the impression that the men were terrorists, had a car full of bombs and were of Middle Eastern descent. Due to their lack of information, my husband wanted to tune into local news, because they might know more. We flipped around and the only local news was on Fox 24. After several commercials about how they give you the news when you need it, they cut to a segment about the puppies up for adoption at a local shelter. Nothing against puppies, but makes me feel like the news around here is a joke.
August 5, 2007 at 9:05 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
postman01 (anonymous) says...
Bailey 10, I am glad to know that. I've been frustrated by southerners like "Rock Solid Republican" all my life, so I know how you feel.
August 5, 2007 at 9:10 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
jammer (anonymous) says...
NoThanks... I don't think they caught on
maybe not dumb, just not paying attention... pronounce the name of the witness sloooowwwwwwwwly, as a southerner would... lol
someone duped the reporter as well as some here, I can't believe the p/c didn't catch that
there's always that slight possibility that that's really his name but I'm not falling for it enough to look it up
btw I'm from here and I caught it...
August 5, 2007 at 9:16 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
mac0cm4 (anonymous) says...
As far as RockSolidRepublican's closing statement...WTH did George Bush have to do with this? Nothing!
August 5, 2007 at 9:29 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
tfpoor (anonymous) says...
Old "Jack" may have dupped the reporter here BUT I was going to a party around 6pm and witnessed this:
4 Berkeley county patrol cars with lights on had a tan color 4 door older model CAR pulled over. Standing beside the car was 2 men in cuffs having a middle eastern look, sorry if that sounds like racial profiling, I don't really care. An officer was searching the car and another searched the trunk. The one searching the trunk held up a partially covered cylinder looking item. I jokingly said to my wife that they looked like they had a bomb. Well when we tried to return to our home on Myers rd the road was blocked off. There you go....An eyewitness account.
August 5, 2007 at 9:39 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Jack_Mehouf (anonymous) says...
Nita, I told you it was *four* policemen, not three. And I wasn't sitting on a lawn chair, I was sitting on a futon.
Oh, and you misspelled my name.
August 5, 2007 at 9:49 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
jammer (anonymous) says...
in this day and age I'm all for racial profiling, if a high percentage of your race causes "x" problems then it needs to be addressed without worry about being PC
the loyal to the US jap's were more than happy to help out and lose some of their rights until things were cleared after pearl harbor, why should any other race be different
we get another 911 and I'll help coral them if necessary, I hear you RSR... as will others once they are personally affected...
August 5, 2007 at 9:52 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
chrissy (anonymous) says...
I don't think the reporter did a very good job of covering this story...sounds like she was more focused on the guy in the lawn chair.
August 5, 2007 at 9:54 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
nickiegarbeil (anonymous) says...
I was also on my way home that way, around 5:30 or 6:00. and I can assure you I couldn't even get close enough to see the car or anyone in it. The traffic was rerouted in front of Walmart and we had to turn back around and go through the subdivisions to 78 and home. From Walmart, it APPEARED to be occurring down another mile...possibly in front of Devon Forest or ALCOA(too far away to be positive)...but our goal was Meyers Road as well, and we couldn't get anywhere remotely close...so I question "eyewitness".(Unless you missed something in your post) Having grown up in a law enforcement home, I assure you that plain clothes officers would NEVER pick up a cylinder container, not knowing what is inside. The would simply open the trunk, view the contents, and if questionable, call for the bomb squad. I know CGPD has had some issues in the past, but I would find it hard to believe they would be THAT stupid.
August 5, 2007 at 10:02 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
RockSolidRepublican (anonymous) says...
Hello Ya'll! glad to see my comments made your blood boil Bailey10. It's great for you to get mad and start thinking hard! As for postings calling me a SOUTHERNER that's quite a joke as I am from the western US. I'm sorry to say though, your comments do not bother me in the least, as you probably intended. And this is why...I am solid in my opinions and regardless of Anything Anyone has Ever posted on a blog, do you think it's ever changed anyone's mind? I really don't think so. Feel free to call me ignorant and make jokes, keep them coming! Challenge yourself to abandon our liberal social principles and think beyond the shell the media has pushed you into. I am so proud of you for reading my postings and responding, it shows attention and thought!
I do realize though that I, too, will not change your mind as to your own opinions... The only reason I post is because I want to encourage others who think the same way I do. There are a lot of us out there, but unfortunately we don't speak up enough as we ought to.
Oh, and mac0cm4, my closing line is independent of my thoughts expressed above. I simply close my postings thanking God for America, and asking him to bless this wonderful nation.
Adios to all, thanks for entertaining me. It's been fun.
God Bless America, our Wonderful President, and our troops at home and away!
August 5, 2007 at 10:07 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
sloggin (anonymous) says...
Amish no doubt. Those scoundrels, always out to bomb someone. Scary religion.
August 5, 2007 at 10:15 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
charlene68 (anonymous) says...
It is now 10:00 am and they are still there in Goose Creek with the road shut down, so therre has to be more to it then what is being told, if it would have been just a threat it would be over by now , but it is still there......
August 5, 2007 at 10:16 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
sloggin (anonymous) says...
Maybe those Amish have finally gotten a hold of a nuke or some bioweapon. The road may be closed for a long long time at this rate. I certainly hope we don't have to rebuild it.
August 5, 2007 at 10:21 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
sorehands (anonymous) says...
Eleven hours later, one wonders...was it a bomb or not?
August 5, 2007 at 10:24 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
charlene68 (anonymous) says...
SEE EBERYONE IT WAS NOT HISPANICS HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH!!!!!
August 5, 2007 at 10:48 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
sloggin (anonymous) says...
Mormons in cahoots with the Amish?
August 5, 2007 at 11:13 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
mavericsoul (anonymous) says...
THE THING THAT MESSED ME UP IS THAT I LIVED RIGHT DOWN THE STREET FOR THE SCENE AND A COP REDIRECTED ME TO GO HOME AND I WAS NOT TOLD THAT IT WAS THAT SERIOUS. IF I HAD KNOWN THAT IT WAS OF THAT SEVERITY I WOULD HAVE NO CAME BACK THAT WAY. I AM HAPPY THAT IT WAS TAKEN CARE OF IN A MANNER THAT DIDNT CAUSE PANIC THO. EVEN THOUGH THIS HITS CLOSE TO HOME NOW WE SHOULD NOT JUST RACIAL PROFILE PEOPLE AROUND HERE. IT MIGHT BE HARD IN THE FIRST INSTINCT IS TO DO SO.. BUT EVERYONE AS THAT RACE IS NOT LIKE THAT.. THANK GOD THAT SOMEONE GIVE A TIP OFF OR ELSE I BELIEVE THAT THEY WOULD HAVE GOTTEN THE JOB DONE AND SOO MANY PEOPLE WOULD HAVE BEEN HURT.. WE DONT NEED AN EPISODE OF 24 IN GOOSE CREEK.
August 5, 2007 at 11:40 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
sloggin (anonymous) says...
No, Hispanics are not like that. I have never know Hispanics to carry out a suicide bombing or fly an airplane into a highrise. This just has to be the work of the Amish.
August 5, 2007 at 11:44 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
sloggin (anonymous) says...
BTW, is the road still closed?
August 5, 2007 at 11:53 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Gman (anonymous) says...
I'm just glad my southern Greasy Ba chickens didn't got blown up. Us educated graduates were mor educated clause we graduated at 22 yers old we say in school longer yours truely bubba scrimp
August 5, 2007 at 12:31 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Gman (anonymous) says...
Congrats to our Heros
August 5, 2007 at 12:36 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
sc_dlb (anonymous) says...
Ya know, I find it rather interesting that all of you have quickly jumped to bash each other and not even consider that the SCPD were actually doing a wonderful job in protecting your ungrateful butts.!!! Did anyone stop to consider that maybe there really was some substance to this article? What if....there really was a bomb? What if...the police didn't stop them...THEN WHAT??? Come on people...put the political BS aside and be thankful that your still here to be able to post these "ungrateful" comments.....
August 5, 2007 at 12:41 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
hawneena (anonymous) says...
At least one person that posted on here is an expert on law enforcement and firefighting. The P&C should hire them as a professional consultant.
August 5, 2007 at 12:44 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Amanda (anonymous) says...
Were the men of Middle Eastern descent found with a
bomb in Goose Creek, SC, Israeli Citizens? The reason
I am asking is because they have a history of
terrorist activity in the US near military or
government installations and the Charleston Naval
Weapons Station is located in Goose Creek, SC.
http://www.nwschs.navy.mil/directions...
Security scare shuts Kings Bay
Bomb suspected after an Israeli was unable to give
credentials for entry.
By LIZ HAMPTON May 22, 2004
Times-Union correspondent
http://www.jacksonville.com/tu-online...
Sarasota Herald Tribune
Two Israelis arrested after high-speed chase in
Tennessee
May 9, 2004
The Associated Press
Ryder truckERWIN, Tenn. -- Two Israeli men who led the
Unicoi County sheriff on a high-speed chase in a
rented moving truck were placed under arrest and are
being investigated by the FBI, local officials said.
Shmuel Dahan and Almaliach Naor, both from Israel,
were being held without bond Sunday afternoon at the
Unicoi County Jail.
The Record
Five men detained as suspected conspirators
September 12, 2001
By PAULO LIMA -Staff Writer
(Sources close to the investigation said the men said
they were Israeli tourists, but police had not been
able to confirm their identities. Authorities would
not release their names.)
http://web.archive.org/web/2001110802...
August 5, 2007 at 1:11 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
proGodproIsrael (anonymous) says...
I made an account just to respond to the last poster, you aren't seriously accusing our good allies in Israel of terrorism? The two suspects were most likely from Pakistan or Saudi Arabia, or more likely, Iran. Anti semitism is on the rise, and needs to stop.
August 5, 2007 at 1:26 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Amanda (anonymous) says...
proGodproIsrael-
I'm Jewish, how dare you insinuate I'm promoting antisemitism.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemi...
http://video.google.com/videoplay?doc...
August 5, 2007 at 1:49 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
billyoblog (anonymous) says...
I don't get it. It seems to be a virtual news vacuum about this story. From what I've been able to piece together, this is what (I think) we know. 2 middle eastern men riding in a car that appears to be a rental with Florida plates were stopped for 10 hours on a US highway while the RED CROSS set up shop, then arrested while the bomb squad blew up 'illegal' explosives contained in the vehicle which was in close proximity to a US Naval facility, international airport, and appeared to be headed in the general direction of I 95 which after a cursory map inspection seems to be a bee line to DC.
The MSM version has been reduced to 2 guys were arrested after police destroyed a 'device' in South Carolina.
Am I missing something here? If I was a local journalist, I'd be all over this one.
August 5, 2007 at 1:49 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
burton (anonymous) says...
Thanks to law enforcement for a job well done. I think we should also wait to get all the facts before jumping to conclusions. Please stop lumping everyone into the same basket. There are bad people in all races but you can't say the whole race is bad because of a few people! Thanks again to law enforcement; they don't get enough credit for keeping us safe day in and out!
August 5, 2007 at 1:54 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
proGodproIsrael (anonymous) says...
"Were the men of Middle Eastern descent found with a
bomb in Goose Creek, SC, Israeli Citizens?" I quote. You aren't being very supportive of your own people then, I'm Jewish too, and 99.9999% of Jews are pro Israel. And yes, I do think it was an anti Semitic comment. I won't take it back.
August 5, 2007 at 1:59 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
sloggin (anonymous) says...
Ahhhh, God bless the religion of pieces!
August 5, 2007 at 2:03 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Amanda (anonymous) says...
billyoblog-
Much of what the MSM is reporting comes from the Associated Press, not local reporters. Inserting "men of Middle Eastern descent" into the news story is to stimulate our blood thrust. This is the same tactic used on 9/11 with phony baloney hijackers. Susanne Schafer is on the AP South Carolina news staff.
http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z1...
Susanne Schafer, Military Reporter Susanne Schafer has been working for The Associated Press since 1978. She was a Pentagon correspondent from 1989-2002 before coming to the South Carolina bureau to cover military issues. Susanne has written about military operations in Panama, the Persian Gulf, Haiti, Somalia, Bosnia and Afghanistan. During an Associated Press-sponsored fellowship in 1996, Susanne became the first non-government civilian and the first journalist to graduate from the National War College in Washington, D.C. After arriving in Washington in 1982, she covered major beats, including Congress, the White House and the State Department.
Susanne was a foreign correspondent for the AP in the Netherlands and West Germany. She worked as an editor on AP's international desk before going overseas. Susanne began her AP career in Des Moines, Iowa. She was a copy editor at The Boston Globe while attending the Fletcher School of Law and Diplomacy at Tufts University, where she obtained a master's degree in international relations. Susanne graduated from the University of Nebraska at Lincoln in 1974.
August 5, 2007 at 2:25 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
proGodproIsrael (anonymous) says...
religion of pieces?
August 5, 2007 at 2:44 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Slaughtermeyer (anonymous) says...
Has anyone come accross any source that specifies the names of the arrested suspects? If they are Israeli-sounding names, that would be a good reason to keep their names secret, just as the mainstream media was extremely reluctant to publish the names of the Israelis who were caught trying to blow up the George Washington Bridge (see my previous post).
August 5, 2007 at 3:10 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
billyoblog (anonymous) says...
Amanda,
Try taking deep breaths and focus on the horizon. If that doesn't work close your eyes and forget to breath.
August 5, 2007 at 3:37 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
sloggin (anonymous) says...
"religion of pieces?"
as in blown into a million pieces...
August 5, 2007 at 3:47 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Amanda (anonymous) says...
billyoblog-
Why are you so hateful? Is that an American virtue? Maybe you should go shopping and buy a few hundred flags for your front yard, assuming that you own property.
http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z1...
August 5, 2007 at 4:09 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Amanda (anonymous) says...
The recent nondescript bomb scare is not the first normalization of direct police-state actions in Goose Creek, SC.
http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z1...
The November 5, 2003 police raid of Stratford High School was recorded by both the school's surveillance cameras and a police camera. The tapes show students as young as 14 forced to the ground in handcuffs as officers in SWAT team uniforms and bulletproof vests aim guns at their heads and lead a drug dog to tear through their book bags.
The raid was initiated by the school's principal at the time, George McCrackin, who resigned shortly after the tapes surfaced on national television. The raid was authorized based on the principal's suspicion that a single student was dealing marijuana. The raid was carried out despite the suspected student being absent at the time. No drugs or weapons were found during the raid and no charges were filed.
Stratford High School surveillance video of the raid with narration by former Principal George McCrackin.
http://stream.realimpact.net/?file=re...
August 5, 2007 at 4:44 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
PoliGadfly (anonymous) says...
It may be they are only detained for Federal authority on immigration violations. If that's true then there is only a Federal detainer on them probably until ICE picks them up, not formal local or state charges.
AS for the post relative to it not being Hispanics involved, maybe they were just captured before they could pick up a few "illegals" to help carry the exposive material. You know how most "citizens" hate to do those sorts of jobs catagorized as terrorists acts.
August 5, 2007 at 4:50 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
charlene68 (anonymous) says...
they dd not clear the scene or open it to traffic at that time, cause i was there it was around 7 or 7:30 when people started leaving one by one....
August 5, 2007 at 4:51 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
billyoblog (anonymous) says...
Amanda,
HATEFULL is what those "phoney baloney hijackers" (as you describe them) were when they murdered 3000 Americans. My 'American virtue' is to unapologetically defend those murdered American souls honor from sarcastic indifferent attacks such as the one you launched in your post. As for the flags on my property idea, you're a little late. Also, you may want to tune into the news conference scheduled for tomorrow to find out WHY 2 middle eastern 'men' ages 21 and 24 who are NOT US citizens, thought it would be a good idea to be in possesion of fuses and detonators. It sure sounds like a hatefull mideastern virtue to me.
August 5, 2007 at 4:53 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
proGodproIsrael (anonymous) says...
http://www.abcnews4.com/news/stories/...
August 5, 2007 at 4:57 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Amanda (anonymous) says...
billyoblog-
Whatever, you must have big shoes to fill.
http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z1...
August 5, 2007 at 5:01 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Slaughtermeyer (anonymous) says...
ProGodproIsrael, you wrote "I made an account just to respond to the last poster, you aren't seriously accusing our good allies in Israel of terrorism?"
The Israeli government has already admitted to carrying out acts of terrorism against US and British targets. Just Google "Lavon Affair."
August 5, 2007 at 5:05 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Jack_Mehouf (anonymous) says...
http://www.abcnews4.com/news/stories/...
Goose Creek - Two men are being held in the Berkeley County Detention Center after police find explosive making devices in their car. The men 21-year-old Yousef Megahed and 24-year-old Ahmed Mohamed were pulled over Saturday evening during a routine traffic stop near Myers Road and Highway 176. Among the explosive devices found were igniters and fusers. Few details about the suspects are known at this time. They are believed to be students at a Florida college. They are of Middle Eastern descent and are not US citizens. Neither man has been charged, but charges are expected Monday. A press conference will be held at the Berkeley County Sheriff's office Monday at 11:30 in the morning."
Yousef Megahed? What a bragger...
August 5, 2007 at 5:08 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Amanda (anonymous) says...
"The men 21-year-old Yousef Megahed and 24-year-old Ahmed Mohamed were pulled over Saturday evening during a routine traffic stop near Myers Road and Highway 176. "
http://www.abcnews4.com/news/stories/...
Coincidentially, there is an Ahmed Mohamed who is an Associated Press Writer
http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/...
August 5, 2007 at 5:55 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
livia (anonymous) says...
haha--I also just took a Research Statistics class at a well-known university and my professor was Ahmed Mohamed. :0)
August 5, 2007 at 6:21 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
billyoblog (anonymous) says...
WOW Amanda, that's deep, real.....deep. Imagine that, another Ahmed Mohamed. I'd be willing to bet those odds must be astronomical, probably somewhere in the area of 5-4.
August 5, 2007 at 6:24 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
anon123 (anonymous) says...
Two men with Muslim sounding names, busted in the center of Redneckville, USA, being charged with an "explosives violation". Story has been buried by all major news outlets, but alas, a DEPUTY SHERIFF in the 'Creek will give a press conference tomorrow to detail the crimes of the detainees.
"The item made a loud bang, similar to a firecracker, when it was demolished"
;o
August 5, 2007 at 6:37 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
livia (anonymous) says...
This is just a question, as I have been out of the area for a while and I would never want to pass blame or suggest a false theory--BUT...has the brig at the NWS not been used to house some rather high-profile or at least considerably well known terrorist suspects or something ??? I know that the brig, itself, is on a more secure part of the base; however, the "open" feeling of the Weapons Station scares me somewhat. It is the first base that we have been assigned to that is not more guarded. I remember when we were there--even in the late 1990's, the road was open through to Bushy Park. I'm sure that a fence isn't much of a deterrent to someone with explosives and determination.
I hope; however, that this will be cleared up tomorrow and it may seem that it was over reacting on everyone's part. If there is more to the story--I agree with the earlier comment, thank goodness for routine traffic stops!
August 5, 2007 at 6:46 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
sloggin (anonymous) says...
Yousef Megahed and Ahmed Mohamed.
Sounds Amish to me.
August 5, 2007 at 7:10 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Amanda (anonymous) says...
There are 149 results matching "Ahmed Mohamed, United States" listed in the White Pages.
http://www.whitepages.com/search/Find...
There are 0 results matching "Yousef Megahed, United States" listed in the White Pages.
http://www.whitepages.com/search/Find...
Google News "Yousef Megahed"
http://news.google.com/
http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z1...
August 5, 2007 at 7:15 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
sloggin (anonymous) says...
Nothing to see here folks, just a couple of college kids looking for 72 virgins, move along....
August 5, 2007 at 7:18 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
CharleneMartel (anonymous) says...
To 'slaughtermeyer': you are going around posting on various sites that carry this article that the men detained are probably Israelis. You are an anti-semitic terrorist sympathizer who is trying to spread your hateful anti-semitism everywhere you go. Are you on the CAIR payroll? And what excatly does your screen name 'slaughtermeyer' mean? Slaughter the Jews?
Shall I look up your IP address? Perhaps you are posting from an enemy nation?
The men named are ARABS? Get it?
August 5, 2007 at 7:34 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
CharleneMartel (anonymous) says...
That goes for you too 'Amanda.' You and 'slaughtermeyer' are spreading anti-Jewish anti-Israeli propaganda straight from an Iranian textbook.
Here's a quote from you:
"Were the men of Middle Eastern descent found with a bomb in Goose Creek, SC, Israeli Citizens? The reason I am asking is because they have a history of terrorist activity in the US near military or
government installations and the Charleston Naval
Weapons Station is located in Goose Creek, SC."
The reason you are asking such a ridiculous question is to give yourself a platform for your anti-semitic conspiracy theories where the Jews are always behind every plot carried out by muslim terrorists. Either too much Alex Jones or too much jihadist indoctrination. Please go away.
August 5, 2007 at 7:41 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
scoobidoo (anonymous) says...
Wow....how close to a Military Base can two Middle Easterners get, and with bomb material in hand? All of this seems a little off the normal. It is even more a little strange a routine police stop by Goose Creek Police seemed to stop by chance two Middle Easterners that just happened to have bomb material Did they get a call for a heads up. That's the only way I can imagine the Goose Creek Police on the scene. Hell fire I've had to go through the act of removing a left kidney to get a police officer to show up for a House Break in close to the same area....Wow some facts are definitely missing....
August 5, 2007 at 7:41 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
TugMcGroin (anonymous) says...
OK, Let's recap
The men 21-year-old "Yousef Megahed" and 24-year-old Ahmed Mohamed.
They are of Middle Eastern descent and are not US citizens.
They are believed to be students at a Florida college.
The car was rented from South Florida.
Could this be the "Yousef Megahed" they are talking about?
http://asme.eng.usf.edu/contact.htm
August 5, 2007 at 7:44 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
proGodproIsrael (anonymous) says...
not terrorist channel 4 says so
http://www.abcnews4.com/news/stories/...
August 5, 2007 at 7:45 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
JeannieJoy (anonymous) says...
It's easy to lose sight that the US is a major target of many terrorists who despise our way of life and the fact that we are Israel's ally. Sadly, it seems that Muslims all over the world want to see our downfall and are being trained from birth to despise us and to believe that they will receive a reward after death for killing our elderly, men, women and children. I'm not being racist, just pointing out a fact. We see them burning our flag on their streets chanting "Death to America" and recruiting American Muslims via You Tube to carry out terrorist bombings. Wake up people, New York was not the last city we will see hit hard by the end result of blind hatred......if they are in Goose Creek South Carolina, they can be anywhere.
August 5, 2007 at 7:54 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
sheeple (anonymous) says...
Gosh, it turns out they really ARE non-citizens from the Middle East, despite the best efforts of the AP and Post and Courier to whitewash the incident.
But maybe they're not really jihadis, maybe they're Methodists on their way to bingo night.
August 5, 2007 at 8:01 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
hawneena (anonymous) says...
Does anyone think that the FBI is going to tell us at this point whether these men are possibly terrorists? It would probably cause mass hysteria. We sure can't believe what the media is saying either way. Those airline pilots trained in Florida, did they not? I don't have a good feeling about any of this. Stay tuned.....
August 5, 2007 at 8:17 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
JeannieJoy (anonymous) says...
Amanda, I'm going to respond to this comment you made:
The recent nondescript bomb scare is not the first normalization of direct police-state actions in Goose Creek, SC.
http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z13/A...
The November 5, 2003 police raid of Stratford High School was recorded by both the school's surveillance cameras and a police camera. The tapes show students as young as 14 forced to the ground in handcuffs as officers in SWAT team uniforms and bulletproof vests aim guns at their heads and lead a drug dog to tear through their book bags.
The raid was initiated by the school's principal at the time, George McCrackin, who resigned shortly after the tapes surfaced on national television. The raid was authorized based on the principal's suspicion that a single student was dealing marijuana. The raid was carried out despite the suspected student being absent at the time. No drugs or weapons were found during the raid and no charges were filed.
Stratford High School surveillance video of the raid with narration by former Principal George McCrackin.
http://stream.realimpact.net/?file=reali...
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Must I remind you that only 20 miles away is the city of Charleston, where those 9 firefighters recently lost their lives saving others?
The military, law enforcement and firefighters in this area are among the best in the nation. Show some respect and common sense, please.
August 5, 2007 at 8:21 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
postman01 (anonymous) says...
This is the latest AP report on the bomb incident near Goose Creek.
The salient thing here is the refusal of the Berkeley County Sheriffs office to talk to the AP. I understand that they might put the P & C first BUT they should treat ANY legitimate news organization with equal respect. The AP is unquestionably legitimate.
So we're seeing the sheriff's dept there display a xenophobic redneck streak, which is unacceptable in today's world. Not to mention EMBARRASSING to the multitudes that are FROM HERE who are not xenophobic rednecks. This is a national news story and the P & C is not geared for that kind of coverage by design. This could happen anywhere and there is no shame whatsoever upon US that it happened here; in fact, the healthy viewpoint is that our boys prevented a tragedy.
By the way, I am a native and I find myself in large agreement with the sentiments and postings of most on this thread; however, we are AMERICANS first and Southerners second. Remember that!!!!!!!!!! As for the charges of "whitewashing", if there was such an attempt it failed. As for the "redneckville" contention, most people here are not rednecks. That ceased to be true a while ago and living in the past is UNHEALTHY.
A little less "black helicopter" nonsense and more DISPASSIONATE analyis would seem to be in order here.
I am disappointed in "Slaughtermeyer" for displaying anti-semitism. That's pathetic, especially since a big time Jew (Joseph Lieberman) has the guts to openly support President Bush despite the idiotic behavior and rhetoric of that pitiful excuse for a political party he belongs to.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070805/a...
August 5, 2007 at 8:21 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
proGodproIsrael (anonymous) says...
Hawneena
why not? They have told us about other terrorist failed attempts.
August 5, 2007 at 8:22 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
peacenlove1 (anonymous) says...
well im from the middle east,or close and married from american girl, from sc too and u got millions of arabs livin here ..don't mean they gonna hurt america,thry work hard like u guys and respect your law ,my point is ..it's a very rough time we are goin thro in the world right now ,and it's expected that bad things could happen ...but don't mean hate all the arab and muslim because bad minority of people succeded once to hurt america , ibelieve it's never gonna happen again just gotta be careful and bad guys got the law upon thier back and good bless america ,and all the good people and good nite
August 5, 2007 at 8:39 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
livia (anonymous) says...
Thank you, postman01 for finally getting us back on track with the discussion. . . As you said, a little less "nonsense"... why would Berkeley County be so quiet about things if it were 'nothing'. Wouldnt' they come out and say, 'Nothing to see here folks, move along?" I mean, I understand taking precautions, but once the threat is minimized--why wait until MONDAY to hold a press converence?
As for the "mass hysteria" haweena, does this mere comment log not echo that? Rather than trying to find out what happened in Goose Creek, the topic quickly turned to finger pointing, racial suggestions, and even "anti-semitism" conversations. If anything, this blog shows that people are very quick to judge and guess--but often fail to miss the message: IF the explosives were carried through Charleston, they could have had an intended target locally--or they could have had bigger plans that happened to be interrupted, thank goodness, by a county deputy in SC...either way, the facts are the facts and that should be what is the focus of any logical questions or comments. The P&C provides this service to us to express our opinions, gain information, and hopefully become more educated in the process. Racial, Religious, Anti-Semitic, Anti-Muslim remarks should be posted somewhere else, in my opinion. . .
August 5, 2007 at 8:42 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
livia (anonymous) says...
*Press *Conference*, sorry for the typo!
August 5, 2007 at 8:44 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
proGodproIsrael (anonymous) says...
I agree with peacenlove1
I also agree with Livia
postman is right except for one thing. I really don't think we shpuld refer to our sherrif's department as having a "xenophobic redneck streak"
that is really unfair. They are doing their job!
August 5, 2007 at 9 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
JeannieJoy (anonymous) says...
Livia, perhaps they are trying to gather more information and check facts before going in front of the national media and making an ill informed statement just because enquiring minds want to know.
When dealing with such a touchy topic and a matter of national security, discretion is necessary, as is time since they are dealing with several other national agencies having to give their approval for them to move forward.
August 5, 2007 at 9:13 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Amanda (anonymous) says...
In a stunning turn of events the South Carolina FBI
has revealed that the Goose Creek Terrorists were
incorrectly identified. http://columbia.fbi.gov/
The two men belong two a little known religious sect
called The Amish Avengers. Sources have revealed their
names to be Ahmed Yoder and Yousef Miller.
Here is a photo of their mug shot. Don't let their
friendly smiles fool you. They are very dangerous and
other members of their group should be approached with
caution. (Doesn't this scare the bejeebers out of you?)
http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z1...
This exclusive photo explains why their vehicle was
pulled over for a routine traffic stop near Myers Road
and Highway 176.
http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z1...
August 5, 2007 at 9:41 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
hawneena (anonymous) says...
livia., clarify your comment addressed to me, please. I definitely was not pointing fingers or name-calling. I have been posting for a long time now, and I have often commented that the forum is a great place to exchange opinions, toss around theories, and definitely a good place to learn. Did I say something to offend you? I surely wasn't trying to. Just tossing out a theory basically.
August 5, 2007 at 9:49 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Amanda (anonymous) says...
CharleneMartel-
I'm Jewish, how dare you call me an antisemite. Maybe you have never seen the following news items. And if I was antisemite, so what, I thought this was a free country, not Nazi Germany, where you could hold and express your opinions. I think you just hate people who are opinionated or you need more bulk in your diet.
http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z1...
http://video.google.com/videoplay?doc...
Security scare shuts Kings Bay
Bomb suspected after an Israeli was unable to give
credentials for entry.
By LIZ HAMPTON May 22, 2004
Times-Union correspondent
http://www.jacksonville.com/tu-online...
Sarasota Herald Tribune
Two Israelis arrested after high-speed chase in
Tennessee
May 9, 2004
The Associated Press
Ryder truckERWIN, Tenn. -- Two Israeli men who led the
Unicoi County sheriff on a high-speed chase in a
rented moving truck were placed under arrest and are
being investigated by the FBI, local officials said.
Shmuel Dahan and Almaliach Naor, both from Israel,
were being held without bond Sunday afternoon at the
Unicoi County Jail.
The Record
Five men detained as suspected conspirators
September 12, 2001
By PAULO LIMA -Staff Writer
(Sources close to the investigation said the men said
they were Israeli tourists, but police had not been
able to confirm their identities. Authorities would
not release their names.)
http://web.archive.org/web/2001110802...
August 5, 2007 at 10:02 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
JeannieJoy (anonymous) says...
Amanda,
Your link to the FBI said absolutely nothing about these men being from some fictitious sect called the Amish Avengers, the 2nd link to their photos are NOT mugshots and may not even be of them and as for the 3rd link, just yet more proof of your ignorance.
Just because you make it up in your delusional mind doesn't make it so.
August 5, 2007 at 10:03 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
TugMcGroin (anonymous) says...
JeannieJoy, don't feed the troll!! Amanda brings nothing to the table and demonstrates the peculiar debating ability of defeating herself. She's a Jew and I'm Stephen Harper.
One day she may muster the courage to ask her parents what it was she did as a child that motivated them to send her to Idiot School.
August 5, 2007 at 10:22 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
peacenlove1 (anonymous) says...
amanda ..what u doin for livin if u don't mind me asking??
August 5, 2007 at 10:23 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Cindi (anonymous) says...
I'm very surprised that the news media hasn't said very much about this. These two non-national middle eastern men with explosive materials weren't sightseeing around South Carolina. I hope the news conference tomorrow doesn't focus on their "rights" and how PC everyone should be.
August 5, 2007 at 10:37 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
postman01 (anonymous) says...
Thank you, Livia. One observation I would like to make is that the racial, religious, etc. remarks actually do serve a purpose, which is as follows: Because we are anonymous, we say what we really think, something we might not do if we were worried about offending friends and/or family. In addition, it tells us how some of the people we share the world with actually think, which is invaluable infromation not only for purposes of this discussion thread but also life in general. The flip side is that those who we "question" (to put it politely) also know how we think to an extent. The question is what does a given individual do with this insight. That's the dividing line amongst us.
Anyway, the truth is that Uncle Sam is running this show and this is now a national security matter. No matter what we read or hear, when the FBI tells the Berkeley County Sheriff's department (or any other local or state law enforcement agency) to jump, their response is "how high". This is the most important thing to understand when assessing the behavior of Berkeley County and the subsequent reporting of it, since journalists can only responsibly report what they know. This assumes, of course, no "leaks" as such.
August 5, 2007 at 10:38 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Amanda (anonymous) says...
JeannieJoy and TugMcGroin wouldn't understand or appreciate satire it it struck them in the head and went out the other end. Just keep repeating "Everything is OK,Everything is OK,Everything is OK,Everything is OK,Everything is OK,Everything is OK,Everything is OK,Everything is OK,Everything is OK,Everything is OK,Everything is OK.
http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z1...
August 5, 2007 at 10:41 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Cindi (anonymous) says...
Lol Sloggin. They weren't looking for 72 virgins. It is a 72 year old virgin.
August 5, 2007 at 10:54 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Amanda (anonymous) says...
peacenlove1-
I'm a Gynecologist. What do you do for a living?
August 5, 2007 at 10:56 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
whome (anonymous) says...
See, this is what happens because we didn't build that fence sooner like God had instructed.
August 5, 2007 at 10:57 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
peacenlove1 (anonymous) says...
amanda
im a lawyer and doing my masters in international law
August 5, 2007 at 11:06 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
JeannieJoy (anonymous) says...
Harpo and TugMcGroin, LOL !! You nailed me. ;)
Amanda - Satire? Yeah, I find people wanting to explode national monuments and kill innocent people HILARIOUS !! This is serious.....not a laughing matter to be made light of. What kind of sicko would turn this into a joke? Oh, nevermind.
August 5, 2007 at 11:12 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
TugMcGroin (anonymous) says...
Peacelove1,
Just an observation . .
Your spelling and grammatical skills have vastly improved since your first post at 8:39.
You started with this masterpiece at 8:39;
well im from the middle east,or close and married from american girl, from sc too and u got millions of arabs livin here ..don't mean they gonna hurt america,thry work hard like u guys and respect your law ,my point is ..it's a very rough time we are goin thro in the world right now ,and it's expected that bad things could happen ...but don't mean hate all the arab and muslim because bad minority of people succeded once to hurt america , ibelieve it's never gonna happen again just gotta be careful and bad guys got the law upon thier back and good bless america ,and all the good people and good nite
Then there was this post at 10:23;
amanda ..what u doin for livin if u don't mind me asking??
Now this post at 11:06;
amanda
im a lawyer and doing my masters in international law
I'd love to read your legal briefs!
August 5, 2007 at 11:23 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Amanda (anonymous) says...
JeannieJoy
I respect your right to think that you are better than me.
http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z1...
August 5, 2007 at 11:38 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
TugMcGroin (anonymous) says...
Whereas I couldn't ascertain a word Peacenlove1 was trying to say in his 8:39 gibberish, I find it somewhat scary that proGodproIsrael with his 9:00 post agreed with every word of it!
Just sayin . . . .
August 5, 2007 at 11:40 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
TugMcGroin (anonymous) says...
JeannieJoy,
Don't do it !!
DON'T DO IT !!
August 5, 2007 at 11:51 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
JeannieJoy (anonymous) says...
LOL !! No worries..... I don't have a magic wand that fixes stupid so it's a moot point to even try.
August 6, 2007 at 12:17 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
nickiegarbeil (anonymous) says...
Amanda,
I am also an MOT...and let me tell you...you are being a HUGE embarrassment to our culture and our faith. Have you no respect? We are never to spout hateful words toward others. You have been running off at the lip throughout this message board, making no sense...I am beginning to wonder if you aren't smoking crack or something...for G-d's sake, PLEASE knock it off...
The truth of the matter is that these young men are probably just that...young men of middle eastern descent, on vacation from college...they are now claiming that they were carrying fireworks left over from the 4th of July...Maybe so...IF they had anything more on their minds, the FBI would never have left this for Goose Creek to handle. They are not conspiring to kill anyone, they are not Israeli...stop acting like a lunatic and GROW UP.
B'Shalom-
Yisraela Shulamit bat Ami...
August 6, 2007 at 12:40 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
WithHonor (anonymous) says...
Well, I would have to say that no matter where thses two individuals were coming from or even going, they were stopped for speeding and then the Officers found what appeared to be an explosive device. Being in Law Enforcement and the military, these two are being held within the limits of the law and they should be charged in accourdance with Local, State, and federal laws pertaining to the possession and transporting an explosive type device. Just because they are from some college in Florida doesn't exclude them from the laws in South Carolina. My hat goes off to the officer, troopers and all emergency responders for handling this incident with great magnitude and professionalism.
This incident just lets the American people know what their military has to deal with everyday in Iraq and Afghanistan.
Job Well Done!
August 6, 2007 at 12:49 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
nickiegarbeil (anonymous) says...
WithHonor,
No one is saying that they shouldn't be held IF they broke the law. At this point it appears that they broke the law for speeding...the FBI was on hand to investigate and they have stated it appeared to be fireworks. My question would then be, is it illegal to possess fireworks in SC? No...However...I am not familiar enough with SC law yet to say if it is unlawful to carry fireworks across state lines. It appears there is a lot of missing information on this story and until they release more information, there is no need for panic.
I am the daughter of a retired police Sergeant, my sister is a Chas. Co. Sheriff's Deputy, and I am also former military myself. I am absolutely glad that the officers did their job and were very observant, as it could have been a whole lot worse. The GCPD should be proud their men acted on their training. kudos. I just hope it isn't blown out of proportion for what it truly is.
My comment (however sarcastic it may have sounded) was aimed at another post(er), whom I felt is being off kilter, so I simplified. I apologize if I wasn't clear.
August 6, 2007 at 1:18 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
rollo (anonymous) says...
I have had reason to be over that way in the past few weeks and have noticed an extra police presence(GC and Chas Co). They weren't operating speed traps, it seemed like they were expecting something to happen..
August 6, 2007 at 1:40 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
crtrue (anonymous) says...
Can we just wait until they tell us the "device" was nothing and that the police force just has some egg on their face here?
Paranoia is a disease that has seeped into every aspect of the American conscience.
August 6, 2007 at 2:56 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
mac0cm4 (anonymous) says...
To Rollo: I can assure you that there are no more GC units on the street than normal. I can also tell you that since GC is not in Charleston County they'd not be operating over there unless it was for a special incident, such as the one in the article.
To crtrue: Would you rather that they have some egg on their face and be sure it was nothing, or blow it off and have innocent people (perhaps someone you know) be injured or killed? In any event, I don't believe they've got egg on their face (Berkeley County prefers pancakes, and you can find about four or five deputies at Alex's in Goose Creek for hours every night...), they did their job - better safe than sorry.
August 6, 2007 at 6:25 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
deputy216 (anonymous) says...
i understand they are not trouble makers,i guess if you have a bombn in your trunk riding down the highway it is all right.Way to go law enforcement,good job..
August 6, 2007 at 6:33 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
JeannieJoy (anonymous) says...
I too want to congratulate the GC police dept. for a job well done.
I felt it necessary to point out that in spite of whether these men are being presented as sight seeing students ( with a bomb... ), the hijackers of 9/11 were all educated and respected men and none close to them ever saw "it" coming. With that said, I'd like to post an exerpt I found of the fatwa declared by Bin Laden just to shed some light on the scale of what we are dealing with.
( I say to you William (Defence Secretary) that: These youths love death as you loves life. They inherit dignity, pride, courage, generosity, truthfulness and sacrifice from father to father. They are most delivering and steadfast at war. They inherit these values from their ancestors (even from the time of the Jaheliyyah, before Islam). These values were approved and completed by the arriving Islam as stated by the messenger of Allah (Allah's Blessings and Salutations may be on him): "I have been send to perfecting the good values". (Saheeh Al-Jame' As-Sagheer). Our youths believe in paradise after death. They believe that taking part in fighting will not bring their day nearer; and staying behind will not postpone their day either. Exalted be to Allah who said: {And a soul will not die but with the permission of Allah, the term is fixed} (Aal Imraan; 3:145). Our youths believe in the saying of the messenger of Allah (Allah's Blessings and Salutations may be on him): Those youths know that their rewards in fighting you, the USA, is double than their rewards in fighting some one else not from the people of the book. They have no intention except to enter paradise by killing you. An infidel, and enemy of God like you, cannot be in the same hell with his righteous executioner. )
Here is a link to the entire declaration:
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/terrorism...
August 6, 2007 at 7:26 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
ParkCirclePride (anonymous) says...
If it walks like a college kid with a firecracker, and looks like a college kid with a firecracker, it's probably a college kid with a freakin' firecracker.
August 6, 2007 at 9:11 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Brant (anonymous) says...
RockSolidRepublican: Just a simple question: were you born a bigoted idiot or did you just grow into it?
August 6, 2007 at 9:18 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
jammer (anonymous) says...
Posted by Amanda on August 5, 2007 at 4:09 p.m. (Suggest removal)
billyoblog-
Why are you so hateful? Is that an American virtue? Maybe you should go shopping and buy a few hundred flags for your front yard, assuming that you own property.
_____
what are doing coming in here bashing all American's? "Is that an American virtue?"
if it wasn't for America there wouldn't be an Isreal... show some gratitude for your mere existence and apologize, and yes I own several pieces of American land...
take this first flight back to your "homeland" if you don't like what I typed... drives me crazy when people come to our country and bash it
love it or leave it!!
if it was up to most of us we'd lock people like you out
August 6, 2007 at 9:33 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
livia (anonymous) says...
Haweena,
My comment to you was merely an observation. I was never implying anything about your posting. You mentioned "mass hysteria" in your posting and I was just comparing that on a small scale to the comment log--where many of the first posts pointed fingers and began to attack personal beliefs. Thats all...I am sorry, I should have used better punctuation so that the two sentences did not run together. :)
August 6, 2007 at 9:34 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
JeannieJoy (anonymous) says...
Brant:
If rallying behind our country and supporting our troops is bigotry, then count me as a proud bigoted idiot too. Many people just don't like Bush....oh well, I didn't like Bill Clinton because he was nothing more than a puppet of the left wing agenda, when he wasn't cheating on his wife and his wife is seen by most of us in the south as being evil incarnate. Not that I agree that we should be in Iraq right now, but at least Bush had the testicular fortitude to send a strong message to the nations that seek our destruction. I hope and pray to God that our next president won't fall into the politically liberal & politically correct trap of doing nothing so as not to offend anybody and consequently let them invade our nation so the war on terror will be fought on our soil instead. I'll bet a lot of you morons would be singing a much different tune then !!!!!
August 6, 2007 at 9:40 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
hawneena (anonymous) says...
Good morning,livia, thanks for the reply. I have to say that some people were getting far too carried away. I don't think I have ever seen such hateful personal remarks posted on this forum. {except by some of the resident nutcases}
August 6, 2007 at 9:47 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
underdog (anonymous) says...
Wow, Charleston, way to show that the terrorists have won, that they have turned us into hyper-reactive fools incapable of thought outside of the hindbrain. Anyone actually engaging something beyond their brainstem will notice that "...officials said they [don't] expect a federal charge to be filed." If this were a serious issue that could even have a chance of being linked to terrorism, the Fed would be all over it. Come on, people. We're better than this.
If I were to conduct myself in the P&C comments as many of you, then guess what? I'd say that most of you here are morons, if I may draw a conclusion based on the limited evidence that you present in your comments. It's probably not fair of me to make that judgment, but then again, so many posters here seem to draw conclusions about criminal matters based on preliminary reporting, so I'm taking the same liberty as they. There is certainly no lack of zealous enthusiasm when the person committing the crime is a non-white, so I am happy to make my comments with the same zeal.
This article certainly does not provide the whole story, so why don't those of you invoking 9/11 and thinly-veiled anti-Muslim vitriol pipe down until the whole story comes out (i.e. whether it a pack of M80s or a genuine threat).
I for one would hate to be Muslim or even darkly-tanned if I were in the US. these days Imagine the chiding, sneering, and accusatory stares. Sounds A LOT like what Protestants went through years ago - i.e., why so many of us whites are here in these United States in the first place.
And while you troglodytic 'Christian' All-American Honest Hard Workers are extolling the virtue of your decidedly un-Christian, un-American, ill-informed opinions, why don't you stop and think about real threats? Obesity, smoking, drunk driving... Hell, consider the least of these: terrorist deaths in this country pale in comparison to drunk driving deaths. There is a drunk driving accident every 30 minutes here. Where is your outrage? Drunk drivers are terrorists! Next time you elbow up to the bar and watch some drunk scumbag head for the door... Shoot him! He's probably going to kill someone! But wait... "He looks like me..."
Now that I think about it, I have a friend training police in Afghanistan. He recently survived an ambush by Taliban forces. Are they the terrorists? No... they are simply fighting a force that is in a land they once controlled. The problem is that we are over there at all. My friend is there because the current administration LIED to the American public, and we the people were too afraid (and many of you still are, judging by comments here) to stop and say... show us the proof. So my friend, and many others' friends, brothers, fathers, and mothers are fighting and dying in a foreign land. They are there because of our fear.
Man, perhaps WE are the terrorists.
We sure are a hell of a lot better at killing ourselves than anyone else.
August 6, 2007 at 9:47 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
jammer (anonymous) says...
and about the Stratford High incedent... I personally know several kids that went to that school and were put on the floor against the walls during this
the GCPD had every right to do what they did except one small detail, they got there too late
the honor role kids told me that the dealers got their stuff out of there ahead of time because someone knew GCPD was coming, that's why it turned ugly and embarassing
had the creek's pd been able to get in there without everyone knowing about it ahead of time the story would have unfolded quite differently
like I said I know some of the kids that went their and that's their story
big lesson for local LEO's on what not to do I'm sure...
August 6, 2007 at 9:53 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
CMLMADDOG (anonymous) says...
You people are pathetic. You think journalists AREN'T asking questions??!! If you believe that, you are an idiot. They can only report what officials tell them, so if law enforcement aren't giving information, no information will be reported. Wake up.
August 6, 2007 at 10 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Kerry (anonymous) says...
Any person or persons of Middle Eastern descent traveling through the South should be very afraid of what "WE" might have in the trunk, the glove box, or under the seat of our vehicles. Just do yourself a favor and keep on going to some other spineless part of this country that will let you practice your "religion of peace" without consequence. I think I speak for a very large number of proud Southerners who would like to see all Muslims REST IN PEACE. Why take chances by making any exceptions?
Unlike the rest of the world, WE know who the enemy is, so stay the hell out of South Carolina. That goes for any cowardly, bleeding heart, liberal minded, politically correct, ACLU supporting, traitorous vermin who disagree. Go ahead and respond with the typical rhetoric that will eventually lead to your own demise. In the meantime, the people of the South will continue protecting our own and the true AMERICAN way of life.
August 6, 2007 at 10:04 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
bhippey (anonymous) says...
You can all go to hell for bagging on the Amish. Most of my family, including my grandparents, are amish and live in Pennsylvania. More than half of my family are Menonite. And what's this "walks like a duck, looks like a duck, must be a duck" crap? Does that make racial profiling and such alright? Look, a black guy driving through suburbia, much be a gangbanger. What the hell is he doing in our naighborhood? Pull him over on suspicion of being black and up to no good. He looks black, acts black, must be black. Therefore he is guilty of being a thug. What a load of BS. That's like seeing a white woman with 4 kids at the dollar store and automatically thinking she is white trash.
August 6, 2007 at 10:24 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
FormerCharlestonian (anonymous) says...
YOU TELL 'EM KERRY!!! And that goes for Georgia too!
August 6, 2007 at 10:26 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Jack_Mehouf (anonymous) says...
"Ahmed Bedier, executive director of the Tampa chapter of the Council on American-Islamic Relations, a civil rights organization for Muslims, said the men arrested are Youseff Megahed, 21, and Ahmed Mohamed, 24 - two University of South Florida students."
CAIR has less than 1800 members nationwide. The organization has been named an unindicted co-conspirator in the government's case against The Holy Land Foundation's funneling of money to Hamas.
Several high-ranking members of CAIR, both past and present, have been quoted advocates of terrorism against Israel and the West.
But those are just minor details and have no relevance in this updated report.
Thanks.
Keep up the good work Post and Courier...
Quite the informative news-reporting you have down there in South Carolina.
August 6, 2007 at 10:35 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
JeannieJoy (anonymous) says...
It's painfully obvious that there are many people who don't deserve the priveledge to live in our great country......they certainly haven't done a darn thing to protect it, even in a simple blog post. You are a plague to our great nation and are nothing more than a arrogant, ungrateful leaches. Please go suck some other country dry. As for me, I quit smoking 5 years ago, am at a healthy weight and wear my seatbealt, don't drink and drive, have never been arrested and don't see how attacking anyones personal choice to give themself cancer or to be overweight is any way related to the topic at hand.
August 6, 2007 at 10:38 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
underdog (anonymous) says...
Kerry,
Timothy McVeigh was a "Christian" like jihadists are "Muslim." If you think Muslims are a dangerous lot, are you forgetting that Christians were responsible for the Inquisition(s) and for many crusades? George Carlin wisely observed that "God is a leading cause of death." And if you want to get secular (which murder for cause is), how many civilians are dead because of American foreign policy?
Kerry, if your vision of "the true AMERICAN way of life" is anything like what you are espousing here (I'm sure it will be deleted soon, so posterity I'll sum it up as the most flagrantly moronic bigotry I've read here), then you might want to adjust your world view and read some history.
I assume you consider yourself a Christian. Please tell me how your opinion is even remotely like something Christ would do, or taught us to do. I would like to know which church you attend, and would like for you to recite verbatim what you wrote here in front of the congregation.
Multiplicity of opinions AND religions ARE the true American way. Refer the Constitution and the Bill of Rights. It is because of these defining American documents that I can say that those of us who disagree with your opinion are not "traitorous vermin," as you state.
Aren't you, in fact, the un-American for believing that we are?
August 6, 2007 at 10:49 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Kerry (anonymous) says...
Any person or persons of Middle Eastern descent "road tripping" through the South should be very afraid of what "WE" might have in the trunk, the glove box, or under the seat of our vehicles. Just do yourself a favor and keep on going to some other spineless part of this country that will let you practice your "religion of peace" without consequence. I think I speak for a very large number of proud Southerners who would like to see all Muslims REST IN PEACE. Why take chances by making any exceptions?
Unlike the rest of the world, WE know who the enemy is, so stay the hell out of South Carolina. That goes for any cowardly, bleeding heart, liberal minded, politically correct, ACLU supporting, traitorous vermin who disagree. Go ahead and respond with the typical rhetoric that will eventually lead to your own demise. In the meantime, the people of the South will continue protecting our own and the true AMERICAN way of life.
August 6, 2007 at 10:50 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
JeannieJoy (anonymous) says...
Underdog, please take your off topic, atheistic verbal vomit elsewhere. You're stinking up the place with your Anti-Christ(ian) rhetoric. We are not living in the days of the Inquisition....we are living in the days of Shiite Muslims wanting to kill Americans wherever they are in the world, or did you fail to notice that ?!?
August 6, 2007 at 11:14 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Jack_Mehouf (anonymous) says...
Read all about "Islamic Leader" Ahmed Bedier here:
http://whatwouldcharlesmarteldotm.blo...
http://whatwouldcharlesmarteldotm.blo...
August 6, 2007 at 11:15 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
hawneena (anonymous) says...
underdog has made remarks that should be considered traitorous. How can he possibly get off defending the Taliban? His comments are inflammatory and totally anti-American.
August 6, 2007 at 11:21 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Kerry (anonymous) says...
There I said it again, so "underdog" and others will read it and UNDERSTAND it. I would suggest this individual go have a look at where the World Trade Center once stood or possibly view a few beheadings if further confirmation that Muslims are a dangerous lot is necessary. As I said, disagree with me if you like and there is a good chance your fate will be determined by this enemy. Unless of course your life is somehow spared because others like me are willing to die defending it. Hopefully, "underdog" and others who choose to believe in an ideal world of absolute tolerance will heed my advice to stay out of South Carolina. We have had enough and will be ready to stop these 7th century barbarians from trying to impose their way of life on us.
August 6, 2007 at 11:25 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
JeannieJoy (anonymous) says...
Navyvlueblood, Thanks for pointing that out. Not too many years ago, many suitcase sized nuclear bombs went missing from the Soviet Union. They have been traced to militant groups in Arab Nations, mostly Iran. When I lived in Vegas, it became glaringly apparent how easy if would be for a suicide bomber to check into a hotel in any part of the country and wipe a quarter of the US off the map forever. Humbling stuff. I'm all for treating any person from a country that has openly professed hatred towards us with caution. It's practical and reasonable to do so.
August 6, 2007 at 11:31 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Amanda (anonymous) says...
Is this the "South Florida branch" of Al-CIA-da, by any chance ?
Corresponding Secretary:
Youssef Megahed
ysmegahe@mail.usf.edu
http://asme.eng.usf.edu/contact.htm
http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z1...
University of South Florida: Homebase of "global terror mastermind" Professor Sami Al Arian
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,7...
Sami Al-Arian:
( Chaired " Jihadis for Bush" in the 2000 Presidential Campaign)
http://www.bushwatch.com/samibush2.htm
Al-Arian suffered a "reversal of fortune", subsequent to the victorious Bush 2000 campaign:
http://www.tampatrib.com/MGB4QU3F1ME....
That would be the "Bush wing" of the global jihadist movement (according to "Red-Herring Catcher of the Year" Daniel Hopsicker)
http://www.madcowprod.com/10292004iss...
And according to Mossad PR stringer, John Loftus, the University of South Florida faculty is a "hotbed" of Republican-Islamist activity:
http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/en...
Tampa Campus Mirrors Middle East
http://www.counterpunch.org/lynch2.html
August 6, 2007 at 11:33 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Kerry (anonymous) says...
The South is ready and willing to kill the enemy.
Read the facts:
Iraq Deaths Hit South Hard
By JAMES W. CRAWLEY
Media General News Service
WASHINGTON - More than half the 2,000 U.S. troops killed in Iraq either came from the South or were assigned to military bases in the region, according to an analysis of Pentagon records.
The U.S. military death toll in Iraq since March 2003 reached 2,000 Tuesday. The South continues to bear a heavy toll from the war, said national security analysts.
Military officials Tuesday reported the deaths last Friday of a Fort Benning, Ga., soldier who died of wounds suffered Oct. 17 in Samarra, Iraq, and two Marines who were killed in a roadside bombing in Baghdad that claimed another Marine and a Navy corpsman.
The 2,000 total counts those killed by hostile fire and those who died from accidents, non-combat injuries, illness or suicide while fighting in Iraq, nearby waters or Kuwait.
Of those, about 55 percent either listed permanent homes or were assigned to military bases in Southern states.
"You would expect that," said John Pike, director of GlobalSecurity.org, an Alexandria, Va.-based think tank. "There is a greater propensity to join (the military) in the South. And, you can't drive very far in the South without running into an Army base."
The South, as defined by the U.S. Census Bureau, comprises Alabama, Arkansas, Delaware, District of Columbia, Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, Louisiana, Maryland, Mississippi, North Carolina, Oklahoma, South Carolina, Tennessee, Texas, Virginia and West Virginia.
Thirty-seven percent of fallen troops listed their permanent residency in the South.
A recent report by the Durham, N.C.-based Institute for Southern Studies showed that 35 percent of active-duty personnel were recruited from the South. According to the report, 51 percent of the military is based in those states.
"The way people see and feel (the war's impact) is in the casualties from the war," said Chris Kromm, the institute's executive director.
He cited a CBS poll in September that found 34 percent of Southerners thought the Iraq war was having a "major impact" on their communities - 10 percentage points higher than any other region.
"Clearly, the Southerners feel the Iraq war is disproportionately affecting their communities," Kromm said.
August 6, 2007 at 11:41 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Jack_Mehouf (anonymous) says...
I'm still scratching my head as to why, in this post-9/11 world, the Post and Courier would quote a spokesman from a group (CAIR) that has gone on record saying it will file lawsuits against individuals who report suspicious activity by Middle Eastern individuals in or around airplanes and airports -- or any other public place for that matter, like, say, highways near Naval weapons facilities in South Carolina.
August 6, 2007 at 11:51 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Kerry (anonymous) says...
Now, does anyone want to guess the number of casualties inflicted on the enemy during this same period which was not that long ago? The government does not want you to know this because it might make many American citizens way too happy.
August 6, 2007 at 11:53 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
underdog (anonymous) says...
JeannieJoy,
I'm sorry my post was lost on you. I'll break it down:
1) The majority of the reaction here demonstrates a lot of fear of death at the hands of terrorists.
2) When something other than ripe old age is involved, a substantial number of Americans die at their own hands or at the hands of other Americans.
I'm pointing this out because it does not make sense that people are so passionate about a possibility, or a threat, when so many are actually dying right now, needlessly. As an example I offer drunk driving statistics; there are other stats that could be used. It's a matter of how many terrorist-caused deaths in the US vs obesity-related/smoking-related/etc. About 3000 people died in the WTC attacks. That's about 2 months worth of drunk-driving deaths. A drunk driver in an Audi TT split a utility pole close to my house last night. She could have easily killed herself or others. She is more of a threat to me than any terrorist.
People's lifestyle choices do apply in a broader sense as well, in that poor lifestyle translates to an enormous drain on the US economy. Jeannie, I commend you on your healthy lifestyle, and congrats for giving up smoking, I know that's hard. I am in the process of losing 20 extra pounds that I have because I don't want to be a drain for others to support. You and I will not be a drain on the healthcare system that we as taxpayers and insurance payers fund, at least not for self-inflicted reasons. My argument obviously does not involve you (in fact it applies more to me, because I am a bit overweight).
I just wish that if people were going to get passionate about threats to American society, they would look internally, at things they can affect. It's our duty to be well-educated, it's our duty to be as healthy as we can, and it's our duty to be vigilant against public and governmental appeals to fear. THAT is the foundation of a great nation; I think that's how we started out.
As long as we operate out of response to our fears after 9/11, well, isn't that what the 9/11 terrorists wanted?
August 6, 2007 at 11:58 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Kerry (anonymous) says...
Since they have CAIR, why don't we form a group named KAIR -KILL ALL ISLAMIC RADICALS - then the courts will not have to be concern themselves with ridiculous lawsuits.
August 6, 2007 at 11:59 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Amanda (anonymous) says...
Kerosene is a thin, clear liquid formed from hydrocarbons which was first described by AbÅ» Bakr Muhammad ibn ZakarÄ»ya al-RÄzi (865 AD - 925 AD) as a distillation of petroleum in 9th century Baghdad.
Today, kerosene (or Kerryseen) is mainly used in fuel for jet engines and demolition of steel and concrete skyscrapers.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kerosene
http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z1...
August 6, 2007 at 12:01 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
underdog (anonymous) says...
hawneena, how exactly did I defend the Taliban?
Your failure to understand what I wrote is staggering.
August 6, 2007 at 12:03 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
underdog (anonymous) says...
JeannieJoy, how is what I said anti-Christian?
August 6, 2007 at 12:05 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
tressaadabo (anonymous) says...
While not all Middle Easterns are bad we must identify that our biggest threat comes from Islamofacist and they are tying to kill us.
I hope this goes beyond state charges and is fully investigated by the FBI.
CAIR (the council of American and Islamic Relations) itself has been suspected of funding terrorist, they have yet to denounce terrorism.
To Underdog, obesity, smoking and drunk driving never killed 2000 innocent people at one time.
No one is disputing Afghanistan so I think you don't have an aguement there. We were not there when Ben Laden attacked us, we were minding our own business.
To Underdog, I suggest you get your hand out of the sand and wake up, we are at war whether we are away or at home.
Islamic terrorists are Middle Eastern, African, European, Asian and from the former USSR. So they come in all races, do not be decieved.
God prophesized about Ishmael in Genesis 16:11-12: Starting with verse 8, God said:
8 And he said, "Hagar, servant of Sarai, where have you come from, and where are you going?" "I'm running away from my mistress Sarai," she answered.
9 Then the angel of the LORD told her, "Go back to your mistress and submit to her." 10 The angel added, "I will so increase your descendants that they will be too numerous to count."
11 The angel of the LORD also said to her:
"You are now with child
and you will have a son.
You shall name him Ishmael, [a]
for the LORD has heard of your misery.
12 He will be a wild donkey of a man;
his hand will be against everyone
and everyone's hand against him,
and he will live in hostility
toward [b] all his brothers."
This prophesy is true even unto today. This verse describe Arabs then on up to til the present. so much so they started their own false religion to extend their hatred to others. There's verses in the Koran they calls non muslims infadels and orders their execution or conversion. Islamofacist are not mad because we are over there, they are mad because we refuse to accept Islam become muslims. Their goal is to spread Islam across the world and to do it through as much brutality as possible.
This hotility is all due from a lack of Faith in God from Sara and Abraham to supply them with children. Thanks to their bad judgement in allowing Hagar have a child by Abraham and sara's jealousy caused years of anger, resentment and animosity that is still running rampant today.
Faith in God could have prevented and only faith in God can solve it.
August 6, 2007 at 12:32 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Jack_Mehouf (anonymous) says...
"Since they have CAIR, why don't we form a group named KAIR -KILL ALL ISLAMIC RADICALS - then the courts will not have to be concern themselves with ridiculous lawsuits."
If your definition of "Islamic radical" is someone who, in the name of their religion, is willing to exercise their right to blow themselves up IN PRIVATE, well, then, no, I can't support your proposed KAIR. I mean, why do the work the radicals themselves are willing to do for us?
If, however, that same definition is extended to individuals willing to pursue their promised 72 virgins IN A PUBLIC PLACE, thereby trampling upon the rights of others NOT to have their body parts splattered up against a wall in some sort of perverted Rorschach ink blot testimonial to Islam's prophet, then, by all means, sign me up.
August 6, 2007 at 12:42 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
da9 (anonymous) says...
Navyblueblood-You are absolutely right! I have to agree with you on your last comment. Otherwise, I think the officers did a great job in protecting us. I think they followed all the proper procedures; who gives a care about the people who are obviously not going to rat them out saying that they are just wayward students and citizens. There are a ton of terrorists who are citizens here-doesn't make 'em honest. I live near where they stopped these men so I totally support the actions taken so far by the officials and hope that they continue to do an excellent job. I'm glad my city's not in bits right now.
August 6, 2007 at 12:50 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
jammer (anonymous) says...
when/if they finally tell you people what was in the trunk you'll be jumping for joy that they caught them instead of arguing with each other
there was no innocence here as will be shown unless of course someone makes a deal, then it'll all go away very quickly and quietly...
good job goose creek n berkeley county !!!
August 6, 2007 at 12:56 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Amanda (anonymous) says...
I bought a new Patriot Grill made from recycled World Trade Center Steel for the Fourth of July. But when I turned on the gas it collapsed into a pile of rubble!
http://www.danzfamily.com/archives/bl...
August 6, 2007 at 1 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
norv (anonymous) says...
A Lap-Top Computer? Very Suspicious!
Fireworks? Very Suspicious!
Police too embarassed to release details of the arrest? PRICELESS!!!!
August 6, 2007 at 1 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
JeannieJoy (anonymous) says...
Tressaadabbo,
You're right about that prophecy and it's accuracy. Ismael's decendants are the ones in the countries you referred to who want to destroy Israel ( Abraham's children and the rightful heirs of the Holy Land )and her allies, namely us. I don't think that there are more than a few of us who will understand that though.
Underdog, Are you kidding me? Read your posts again. How could they be considered anything but Anti-Christian?
August 6, 2007 at 1:01 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
JeannieJoy (anonymous) says...
Amanda, put down the crack pipe darlin'.
August 6, 2007 at 1:02 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
JeannieJoy (anonymous) says...
IdolHanz, you seem to have some fetish for egg on faces. I'll send you a dozen if it shuts you up.
August 6, 2007 at 1:08 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
lacaci64 (anonymous) says...
Ok, so I'm a bit confused. There seems to be a news vacuum about this incident, very little actually reported. So how does someone infer that the the media is blowing the story out of proportion, or that mass hysteria is being generated? Could it be that the authorities aren't talking yet because this is still an active investigation which they don't want compromised? Since when is the media restricted as to who they can quote? And I have no clue what the incident at Stratford has to do with this story-cannot see the connection at all! I have never seen so many wild, half-baked theories in one place. It would be great to come across some intelligent, well-thought out, rational discussion without all the name-calling and personal attacts. As for the Goose Creek PD over-reacting, I for one prefer that they err on the side of caution! My daughter and her baby travel 176 on a regular basis, including late at night. I'm glad to know the police in that area are so alert. If someone had rear-ended that vehicle who knows how many innocent bystanders could have been hurt or killed!
August 6, 2007 at 1:16 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
postman01 (anonymous) says...
"Underdog" is quite clearly a very confused person who MISUSES his or her intelligence to INTIMIDATE the less talented or less interested. The not well thought out emotional warfare of his or her comments is distessingly obvious.
He or she quite clearly does not understand the difference between those who have intent or design of some kind and those who merely slough along to get along. Most such individuals mean well.
Underdog represents a possibly dangerous and THROWBACK way of thinking and functioning. Wild accusations against strangers, stereotyping everyone who does not have an identical viewpoint, etc., are part of a pattern that should be decisively dismissed.
August 6, 2007 at 1:22 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
JeannieJoy (anonymous) says...
IdolHanz......just exercising my 1st amendment right as well and pointing out the fact that you have now mentioned several times that the GC cops will end up with egg on their faces. Your rationale seems to be defending yourself by calling the kettle black. Get over it.
August 6, 2007 at 1:31 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
MajorTom (anonymous) says...
I think this discussion has become too negative without cause. If these guys were a threat, we are lucky law enforcement caught them. Dem/Rep, Southerner/non-Southerner, whatever, the closer we stick together, the better we will be. Sorry for the Dr. Phil moment, but my chai tea has been giving me bad gas.
August 6, 2007 at 1:38 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
underdog (anonymous) says...
JeannieJoy, you ask how what I say is ing a war-breeding religion, well, thanything other than anti-Christian. I don't see how what I wrote is anti-Christian, and it certainly was not my intent. I genuinely would like to know how you are coming to this conclusion :-) . I will offer that I was raised Christian here in the South., and based on what I learned, I am finding it hard to reconcile the proposed eradication of over 1 billion people with any sensible interpretation of Christian principles.
I suppose I should state that my main goal in what I am posting is to elicit a deeper thought than it seems most people are putting in on the issue. For example, whereas a lot of these opinions seem to be founded on the premise that a) all or most Muslims are terrorists and b) That Islam is a religion of war, i saw fit to remind everyone about Christianity's very bloody history. So if one says that Muslims are guilty by virtue of Islam bee same could be said of Christianity.
By the way, does anyone see a parallel between the basic sentiment that all Muslims and Islam should die and NAZI Germany's "Final Solution," i.e. the extinction of a religion and its practitioners? Isn't that one of the things that made NAZI Germany "bad?"
With regards to my comments about Afghanistan and the Taliban, I believe that the US has every right to pursue Bin Laden. We did overthrow an entire government though. My point was not in support of the Taliban. I just re-read what I wrote, and I did not make this clear, so, eh, my bad. The thing is, the Taliban did not attack us. Bin Laden did. Al Queda did. How was the Taliban connected to 9/11? If your response was to say that they support terrorism, well, that seems to be very true. But do we not do that ourselves when we fertilize, pump gas, buy plastic, or do anything else that involves petroleum and its derivatives?
tressaadabo, thanks for your post. it is quite good, and your faith is inspiring. With regards to what you said about my comments concerning the Taliban, though, I reiterate that the Taliban did not attack us with anything other than their support of terrorism, which is as I said what we do with our petroleum dependency.
August 6, 2007 at 1:40 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
TugMcGroin (anonymous) says...
"YOU WORRY ME!" By American Airlines Pilot - Captain John Maniscalco
I've been trying to say this since 9-11, but you worry me. I wish you didn't. I wish when I walked down the streets of this country that I love, that your color and culture still blended with the beautiful human landscape we enjoy in this country.
But you don't blend in anymore. I notice you, and it worries me.
I notice you because I can't help it anymore. People from your homelands, professing to be Muslims, have been attacking and killing my fellow citizens and our friends for more than 20 years now. I don't fully understand their grievances and hate, but I know that nothing can justify the inhumanity of their attacks. On September 11, nineteen ARAB-MUSLIMS hijacked four jetliners in my country.
They cut the throats of women in front of children and brutally stabbed to death others. They took control of those planes and crashed them into buildings killing thousands of proud fathers, loving sons, wise grandparents, elegant daughters, best friends, favorite coaches, fearless public servants, and children's mothers.
The Palestinians Celebrated, The Iraqis were overjoyed, as was most of the Arab world. So, I notice you now. I don't want to be worried. I don't want to be consumed by the same rage and hate and prejudice that has destroyed the soul of these terrorists. But I need your help.
As a rational American, trying to protect my country and family in an irrational and unsafe world, I must know how to tell the difference between you, and the Arab/Muslim terrorist. How do I differentiate between the true Arab/Muslim-Americans and the Arab/Muslim terrorists in our communities who are attending our schools, enjoying our parks, and living in OUR communities under the protection of OUR constitution, while they plot the next attack that will slaughter these same good neighbors and children? The events of September 11th changed the answer. It is not my responsibility to determine which of you embraces our great country, with ALL of its religions, with ALL of its different citizens, with all of its faults. It is time for every Arab/Muslim in this country to determine it for me.
I want to know, I demand to know, and I have a right to know, whether or not you love America. Do you pledge allegiance to its flag? Do you proudly display it in front of your house, or on your car?
Do you pray in your many daily prayers that Allah will bless this nation, that He will protect and prosper it? Or do you pray that Allah with destroy it in one of your Jihads?
Are you thankful for the freedom that only this nation affords? A freedom that was paid for by the blood of hundreds of thousands of patriots who gave their lives for this country? Are you willing to preserve this freedom by also paying the ultimate sacrifice? Do you love America ? If this is your commitment, then I need YOU to start letting ME know about it.
(cont.)
August 6, 2007 at 1:42 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
underdog (anonymous) says...
JeannieJoy, you ask how what I say is anything other than anti-Christian. I don't see how what I wrote is anti-Christian, and it certainly was not my intent. I genuinely would like to know how you are coming to this conclusion :-) . I will offer that I was raised Christian here in the South, and based on what I learned, I am finding it hard to reconcile the proposed eradication of over 1 billion people with any sensible interpretation of Christian principles.
I suppose I should state that my main goal in what I am posting is to elicit a deeper thought than it seems most people are putting in on the issue. For example, whereas a lot of these opinions seem to be founded on the premise that a) all or most Muslims are terrorists and b) That Islam is a religion of war, i saw fit to remind everyone about Christianity's very bloody history. So if one says that Muslims are guilty by virtue of Islam bee same could be said of Christianity.
By the way, does anyone see a parallel between the basic sentiment that all Muslims and Islam should die and NAZI Germany's "Final Solution," i.e. the extinction of a religion and its practitioners? Isn't that one of the things that made NAZI Germany "bad?"
With regards to my comments about Afghanistan and the Taliban, I believe that the US has every right to pursue Bin Laden. We did overthrow an entire government though. My point was not in support of the Taliban. I just re-read what I wrote, and I did not make this clear, so, eh, my bad. The thing is, the Taliban did not attack us. Bin Laden did. Al Queda did. How was the Taliban connected to 9/11? If your response was to say that they support terrorism, well, that seems to be very true. But do we not do that ourselves when we fertilize, pump gas, buy plastic, or do anything else that involves petroleum and its derivatives?
tressaadabo, thanks for your post. it is quite good, and your faith is inspiring. With regards to what you said about my comments concerning the Taliban, though, I reiterate that the Taliban did not attack us with anything other than their support of terrorism, which is as I said what we do with our petroleum dependency.
August 6, 2007 at 1:46 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
TugMcGroin (anonymous) says...
"YOU WORRY ME!" By American Airlines Pilot - Captain John Maniscalco - (Cont.)
Your Muslim leaders in this nation should be flooding the media at this time with hard facts on your faith, and what hard actions you are taking as a community and as a religion to protect the United States of America. Please, no more benign overtures of regret for the death of the innocent because I worry about who you regard as innocent. No more benign overtures of condemnation for the unprovoked attacks because I worry about what is unprovoked to you. I am not interested in any more sympathy. I am only interested in action. What will you do for America - our great country - at this time of crisis, at this time of war? I want to see Arab-Muslims waving the AMERICAN flag in the streets. I want to hear you chanting "Allah Bless America " I want to see young Arab/Muslim men enlisting in the military. I want to see a commitment of money, time, and emotion to the victims of this butchering and to this nation as a whole.
The FBI has a list of over 400 people they want to talk to regarding the WTC attack. Many of these people live and socialize right now in Muslim communities. You know them. You know where they are.
Hand them over to us, now! But I have seen little even approaching this sort of action. Instead I have seen an already closed and secretive community close even tighter. You have disappeared from the streets. You have posted armed security guards at your facilities. You have threatened lawsuits. You have screamed for protection from reprisals. The very few Arab/Muslim representatives that HAVE appeared in the media were defensive and equivocating. They seemed more concerned with making sure that the United States proves who was responsible before taking action. They seemed more concerned with protecting their fellow Muslims from violence directed towards them in the United States and abroad than they did with supporting our country and denouncing "leaders" like Khadafi, Hussein, Farrakhan, and Arafat.
(cont.)
August 6, 2007 at 1:46 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
TugMcGroin (anonymous) says...
"YOU WORRY ME!" By American Airlines Pilot - Captain John Maniscalco - (cont.)
If the true teachings of Islam proclaim tolerance and peace and love for all people, then I want chapter and verse from the Koran and statements from popular Muslim leaders to back it up. What good is it if the teachings in the Koran are good, and pure, and true, when your "leaders" are teaching fanatical interpretations, terrorism, and intolerance? It matters little how good Islam SHOULD BE if huge numbers of the world's Muslims interpret the teachings of Mohammed incorrectly and adhere to a degenerative form of the religion. A form that has been demonstrated to us over and over again. A form whose structure is built upon a foundation of violence, death, and suicide. A form whose members are recruited from the prisons around the world. A form whose members (some as young as five years old)
are seen day after day, week in and week out, year after a year, marching in the streets around the world, burning effigies of our presidents, burning the American flag, shooting weapons into the air. A form whose members convert from a peaceful religion, only to take up arms against the great United States of America, the country of their birth. A form whose rules are so twisted, that their traveling members refuse to show their faces at airport security checkpoints, in the name of Islam.
We will NEVER allow the attacks of September 11, or any others for that matter, to take away that which is so precious to us: Our rights under the greatest constitution in the world. I want to know where every Arab Muslim in this country stands and I think it is my right and the right of every true citizen of this country to demand it A right paid for by the blood of thousands of my brothers and sisters who died protecting the very constitution that is protecting you and your family. I am pleading with you to let me know. I want you here as my brother, my neighbor, my friend, as a fellow American. But there can be no gray areas or ambivalence regarding your allegiance and it is up to YOU, to show ME, where YOU stand. Until then . "YOU WORRY ME!"
August 6, 2007 at 1:48 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
underdog (anonymous) says...
Postman01, please give me some facts support your opinions, or are you making an emotional appeal. I'm pretty young, so I'm not sure how I could have a throwback way of thinking. How am I misusing my intelligence? All I want people to do is to THINK. Where is the harm in that? Besides, it doesn't take an intelligent person to know that advocating (as poster Kerry did) the deaths of 1 billion people to be WRONG, no matter what your viewpoint.
August 6, 2007 at 1:51 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
JeannieJoy (anonymous) says...
Underdog, please just go back and read your posts. Quit asking me to do it and recap your statements for you.
August 6, 2007 at 1:59 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
underdog (anonymous) says...
Postman01... you are right. I think I was letting out some anger in my earlier posts, and I think that I was telling myself that it was because I want people to think a bit more. You are right on that point, and I should apologize for that. What I was DOING was exactly what I was railing against - emotion based attacks.
I DO genuinely want people to think more, and I'm having a hard time figuring out how people who are really thinking can end up with blanket hatred (which is not everyone here).
It is logical to be wary and suspicious of someone who looks like an adversary, and that sucks, because human beings are capable of being better than that. When I fly and I see what I perceive to be Middle-Eastern person on the plane, I DO size that person up. But I know that logically I am more likely to die from pilot error, and I choose to get over that.
War in the civilized world requires fear and hatred (fear's disguise) between two "people," and they have to feed back until one relents or utterly collapses as happened in the Cold War.
Personally, I'm a hell of a lot more afraid of Russia right now, especially with the Russian administration's claim of a major piece of the Arctic territory, in contravention to previous agreements.
Postman01, thanks again for pointing that out, and I apologize if I offended. It was not what I meant to do.
August 6, 2007 at 2:04 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
lacaci64 (anonymous) says...
Tug, thank you for posting that! I haven't seen it before. I googled it so I could read the whole thing straight through. As for the whole firecracker issue, why don't we wait for official confirmation as to what exactly was found in the trunk before passing judgement on the validity of the case?
August 6, 2007 at 2:05 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
underdog (anonymous) says...
Jeannie, seriously, at no point (by my reading) do I attack Christianity. I reiterate that I am genuinely interested to understand your viewpoint.
August 6, 2007 at 2:06 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
mac0cm4 (anonymous) says...
Somehow you all have turned this into a race/religion issue.
GCPD did not conduct the traffic stop. It was not their incident. They assisted BCSO with the incident after they asked for GCPD to assist. They conducted the initial traffic stop which led to the discovery of the suspicious materials, the laptop, etc. GCPD, GCFD, and other outside agencies assisted BCSO in securing the scene, ensuring public safety, etc.
The Stratford incident has nothing to do with this, and is not relevant, as the two are wholly and definitively different. As Jammer stated earlier - that incident's only flaw was that the criminal students knew beforehand. Had they been successful they would have been lauded. A few crybabies who probably deserved a little fear put in them are the reason it was blown out of proportion.
To those who think the reaction to incidents such as the one in question is an indication that the terrorists have won...be realistic - think again: They won a long time ago. Fear is their objective, and it was obtained on 11 Sep 2001 - if it hadn't been already. Everytime you see the color coded warning chart. Everytime you see 'Department of Homeland Security' or the other things that were created in response to 11 Sep remember that they have met their objective. Even if there is never another attack they still will have met their objective.
August 6, 2007 at 2:08 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
JeannieJoy (anonymous) says...
Underdog, If I interpereted your statements in a way that you did not intend for them to be understood, then I apologize. Where I was sitting they appeared to be an attack on Christianity.
August 6, 2007 at 2:25 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Kerry (anonymous) says...
Attention: underdog and like minded terrorist sympathizers,
You call it blanket hatred, not thinking, against Christian principles, etc...
In South Carolina, we call it WINNING.
August 6, 2007 at 2:32 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
lacaci64 (anonymous) says...
As long as we continue to be vigilant and proactive, and continue to go about our daily business rather than hiding fearfully in our homes then the terrorists have NOT won. As long as we refuse to stoop to their level of bigotry, hatred and violence, they have NOT won.
August 6, 2007 at 2:34 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
singleroni (anonymous) says...
no way is underdog a native sc. got to be a transplant. with that wacko thinking. Sounds like a Kennedy!! Who would go to NC down 176 sounds like taking a side road to avoid attention. Very strange situation. I cant understand why we gi9ve all these groups special permission to avoid the laws and standard practice. Wonder if they have a footbath at jail for them. I think Spock said the needs of the many outweight the needs of a few. When did things change. Why do we have to pay for the wants of a few. Let them buy their special needs themselves. i watch these women in the outfit with the veils in shopping center while their husband dress normally - shows how they are counted as second class people . Where is NOW?
August 6, 2007 at 2:50 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
JeannieJoy (anonymous) says...
I'm proud to be an American by Lee Greenwood:
If tomorrow all the things were gone I'd worked for all my life,
And I had to start again with just my children and my wife.
I'd thank my lucky stars to be living here today,
'Cause the flag still stands for freedom and they can't take that away.
And I'm proud to be an American where at least I know I'm free.
And I won't forget the men who died, who gave that right to me.
And I'd gladly stand up next to you and defend her still today.
'Cause there ain't no doubt I love this land God bless the U.S.A.
From the lakes of Minnesota, to the hills of Tennessee,
across the plains of Texas, from sea to shining sea,
From Detroit down to Houston and New York to LA,
Well, there's pride in every American heart,
and it's time to stand and say:
I'm proud to be an American where at least I know I'm free.
And I won't forget the men who died, who gave that right to me.
And I'd gladly stand up next to you and defend her still today.
'Cause there ain't no doubt I love this land God bless the U.S.A.
August 6, 2007 at 2:55 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
MikeToreno (anonymous) says...
"Maple Street, U.S.A. Late summer. A tree-lined little world of front porch gliders, barbecues, the laughter of children, and the bell of an ice-cream vendor. At the sound of the roar and the flash of light, it will be precisely 6:43pm on Maple Street. This is Maple Street on a late Saturday afternoon. Maple Street, in the last calm and reflective moment before the monsters came."
"Understand the procedure now? Just stop a few of their machines...throw them into darkness for a few hours and then sit back and watch the pattern. They pick the most dangerous enemy they can find...and it's themselves."
"The tools of conquest do not necessarily come with bombs and explosions and fallout. There are weapons that are simply thoughts, attitudes, prejudices, to be found only in the minds of men. For the record: prejudices can kill, and suspicion can destroy, and the thoughtless, frightened search for a scapegoat has a fallout all of its own, for the children and the children yet unborn. And the pity of it is... that these things cannot be confined... to The Twilight Zone."
August 6, 2007 at 3:11 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
JeannieJoy (anonymous) says...
Idolhanz, I wouldn't expect anything less from someone who has posted so much anti government junk. Does the American Flag bother you? Getting a rise out of you is easier than taking candy from a baby...noone needs to insult you.
Here's a novel idea. Why not open your mouth the next time you put your foot in it. Your face must be black and blue by now.
If you insist on biting the hand that feeds you, at least back away from the table. There are others who actually deserve to be an American and know how to show some appreciation.
August 6, 2007 at 3:41 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
underdog (anonymous) says...
Jeanine - ok, thanks, and I'm glad you know I wasn't attacking. Sorry I wasn't clearer.
Sigleroni, no I'm not native SC. I was born in Richmond, Virginia and was raised in NC on a horse from the age of 3 until I moved here five years ago. I would say I'm native NC. In my estimation my slightly rural NC upbringing is not an issue here. I've noticed a wealth of opinions all over SC.
You make a potentially good point about traveling back roads - definitely odd, and I hadn't considered that at all.
One of the reasons I started commenting was that beore the story was updated people were making lots of assumptions without much in the way of facts. I was waiting to hear that they had a trunk full of banned fireworks. It certainly sounds more dire now. I for one am wondering why federal charges are not being brought at this point, but I'll wait to hear what comes of the prosecution of these guys. A bomb is a bomb, and no one should have a bomb, right?
Once more I'll reiterate that I offer my comments just so people will think. I'm aware of the situation in which we as a nation are.
I just hope we all get through this without blowing ourselves apart, and I don't see how two sides looking at each other with resonant hatred is going to offer a resolution. And I still have a hard time seeing Islam as a warrior religion; given that Muslims are about 1/6th of the world's population, wouldn't that mean a hell of a lot more war? Or maybe that's to come? I truly hope not.
August 6, 2007 at 3:42 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
JeannieJoy (anonymous) says...
Is that a big enough flag for you? LOL !! ;P
August 6, 2007 at 3:44 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
GRITS (anonymous) says...
I have to say that I think so many of the posted comments are out of line. How would you feel if the police had looked in the trunk of this car and said "Hum, FIREWORKS, go have fun young fellows"??????? The police did not stop this car because of the color of the skin of the passengers. This was a routine traffic stop for speeding. Many people (young, old, black, white, ect.)have been searched. I believe many of you that are complaining would be the first to accuse the PD if this was not found and handled. The changes in the USA in the last 15-20 years is crazy but necessary due to terrorism and war. Please all of you be proud, be supportive and get real! I implore you to be Americans and open yout heart and minds to others BUT always be aware of the dangers of our world in this time of war. May God bless us all.
August 6, 2007 at 3:53 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Kerry (anonymous) says...
Let's do some basic math Muslims = 1/6th of the world population,
Looks like we might need about 6 bombs, since it only took two to get the message across to Japan.
August 6, 2007 at 3:54 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
JeannieJoy (anonymous) says...
Idolhanz, don't email me any more either. Your conspiracy theories, hostility and personal questions about me are a waste of my time.
August 6, 2007 at 4:03 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
norv (anonymous) says...
But, does it from 6 p.m. until the wee hours of the morning to figure out they stopped a car with fireworks and not heavy explosives?
HeHeHe
August 6, 2007 at 4:04 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Neponset (anonymous) says...
I was a little startled when I checked the local news this afternoon and saw the large number of comments on this article, so I started to read. Another thing I noted - lots of references to Isreal and Armish. Why Amish? I also noted lots of strange wordings which suggests that perhaps the writers first language was not English. I started to check profiles on the user names and guess what - there are a lot of user names which were created today - bingo - we are there - the rag heads have found us. I tried to call the internet section of P&C courier but couldn't get throught - does any one have the phone number for the local office of the antiterrorist agency?
August 6, 2007 at 4:11 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
JeannieJoy (anonymous) says...
Idolhanz,
LOL !!! Care for your lolipop back ?
August 6, 2007 at 4:13 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
MikeToreno (anonymous) says...
"I also noted lots of strange wordings which suggests that perhaps the writers first language was not English."
Well, what do you expect from a forum associated with a South Carolina newspaper?
August 6, 2007 at 4:15 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
BillyTheKid32 (anonymous) says...
Why waste the courts time, with a case that the police let get out of hand. The FBI did the right thing and turned their back on this NON Case against these two.
Who ever on the police force that made the decision to blow this so called case into what it is now should put his bullet back in his shirt pocket and sweep out the cells.
August 6, 2007 at 4:17 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
singleroni (anonymous) says...
bet that hurt being raised on a horse. When was the muslim world been at peace? I was born in Charleston and moved to NC for 20 years before returning here to home. We Southern have pride and and just wants peace but are tired of being ran over, We are tired of people like lindsey graham and all of the other liberals. We are stedfast in protecting our way of life and families. WE see the muslims and mexicans getting away with special exemptions of laws and dont like it.
August 6, 2007 at 4:18 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
GRITS (anonymous) says...
Jennie, Idol and scnative----KNOCK IT OFF! You are just inciting foolish bull at this point. Please us this space as it was intended to be used. It is great to express yourself but please comment wisely.
August 6, 2007 at 4:27 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
JeannieJoy (anonymous) says...
Glad to see us GRITS and Gents sticking together. Who qualified anyone else to judge the GC police anyway? We are the ones that pay their salaries and have gotten speeding tickets from them which is proof positive that they are diligent in getting people, ALL people to slow down.....and we see them on the streets every day doing their jobs, so it is we who have the right to back them up, regardless of how it irritates others who don't know what they're talking about since we know what the GC police dept is like. When I fled from Vegas to here because of an abusive ex-husband, it was the GC police that patrolled by my house day and night to protect me. When I got a speeding ticket last Halloween, I stood before the judge and Mr. DeWitt is the one who helped me to get a 3 point reduction and most of my fines wiped out. I think they're great and I will gladly sing their praises because the deserve it.
August 6, 2007 at 4:30 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
da9 (anonymous) says...
Thank you Kerry!!!
August 6, 2007 at 4:34 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
underdog (anonymous) says...
LOL singleroni - talk about unfortunate mistypes - that should be "raised on a horse FARM," not "raised on a horse." Oops! Ironically, we had an Arabian horse and she WAS pretty uncomfortable to ride. But man she won a lot of dressage competitions. I prefer a quarterhorse though.
Anyway, I'm sure the P&C staff will continue to cover this story as it develops. I think that the officers/departments involved in this are well aware that they better be right because of the enormity of finding Muslims with explosives, so I imagine there is more to this than some simple mistake on the part of the two suspects. But, it's a game of wait and see.
In general, good discussion today! :-)
August 6, 2007 at 4:52 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Kerry (anonymous) says...
Singleroni...Thanks for summing it up again for those who have no grasp on reality...WE ARE SICK AND TIRED...Lindsey Graham will be the first politician to find this out in 2008.
Another great thing about living in the American South is that we are free to hate Muslims as much as they hate us...and they know it. That is why they choose to live elsewhere and had better continue doing so.
August 6, 2007 at 5:01 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
GRITS (anonymous) says...
IdolHanz,
I appreciate your knowledge of the judical system. Your previous posting shared alot of valuable information for all of us. My feeling is that these men have now drawn unwanted attention to themselves with the police, FBI and the general public. This was probably not their desired efeect. If they evidence supports charges, the procescutors will prevail. If they are ligitmate the charges will be dismissed. If their charges are dropped and they leave the country this is still suitable to me
as we have now avoided atleast one potential situation.
August 6, 2007 at 5:02 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
GRITS (anonymous) says...
oops! EFFECT was mispelled!
August 6, 2007 at 5:10 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Kerry (anonymous) says...
Final comment of the day:
One thing is for certain should a release from custody occur,
These two non-citizen Muslim "students" had better leave the state of South Carolina. There are a lot of people like me down here and someone will be watching.
August 6, 2007 at 5:20 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
SomeTruthPlease (anonymous) says...
I am at an impasse here regarding this entire story...the Feds dropping an interest almost immediately tells me that what was in that trunk was not of any immediate importance, as they would have jumped all over two Middle Easterner's traveling so close to a military station with what have been called "pipe bombs". I am amazed that the Feds didn't realize what was in that trunk. I thought that FBI Agents went through rigorous training at Quantico...Kudos to the Berkeley County Sheriff's Department and the Goose Creek Police Force for "one-upping" those federally-trained know-it-all's and showing them how to identify explosives...The next thing you know, Quantico will close, and the new FBI training facility will be right here, on Live Oak Drive in Moncks Corner! That will certainly put us on the map. The fact that it took so many hours for Berkeley County to release the findings after careful analysis of the trunks' contents, smacks of a cover-up to me. I am a little curious as to their being in Goose Creek to begin with...no word as to why, yet? They were headed away from the NWS, from what I understand. I can't believe that they were lost, as they had a GPS unit in the car. I do find it strange that neither of these men are taking what amounts to a full course load down in Florida...one of them has not even declared a major, and is only registered to take a 3 hour course in the Fall? He'll be 120 years old at graduation, at that rate. Is he allowed to remain in the U.S. as long as he's a registered student? Taking one class amounts to getting an education? That is ridiculous. I can't wait until relevent details emerge, as I think there is so much more to this than what we're hearing!
August 6, 2007 at 6:18 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Neponset (anonymous) says...
Harpo
We will never know. Lets hope that Home land security is sniffing.
August 6, 2007 at 6:38 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
majorjohnson (anonymous) says...
I waited a while to post on this one. This looks like crap to me. The pullover and check were fine, erring on the side of caution was probably called for, sounds like they had a load of firecrackers. If batf didn't find a problem here $800,000 bond sounds a tad high. As far as the laptop I suspect they were looking for an open wireless connection. I do the same when I travel and pass through a city. I use em to check my email.
August 6, 2007 at 7:09 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
underdog (anonymous) says...
@ therader5: Timothy McVeigh? Eric Rudolph?
August 6, 2007 at 7:30 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
JeannieJoy (anonymous) says...
Some very good questions and observations by SomeTruthPlease.
August 6, 2007 at 7:43 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
SomeTruthPlease (anonymous) says...
Is Andy Savage at Hill-Finklea Detention Center yet?
August 6, 2007 at 7:56 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
TugMcGroin (anonymous) says...
Posted by IdolHanz on August 6, 2007 at 6:04 p.m.
"Somebody is going to have to cough up 80,000 bucks to spring these 2 idiots out of the pokey".
Actually, and for the record, bond has been set at 800K!
Ahmed Bedier, executive director of the Tampa chapter of the unindicted co-conspirator group CAIR (Council on American-Islamic Relations) has already been in contact with the families of Youseff Megahed and Ahmed Mohamed, stating that "both of them are really naÃive kids."
You can bet your ass that CAIR will assist the families in posting bond.
CAIR are counseling the Muslim Students at PACE University on how to precede with the hate crime charges against Stanislav Shmulevich for putting a copy of the Quran in a toilet!! (Putting a crucifix in urine = art, burning an American Flag = freedom of expression, putting the Quran in a toilet = HATE CRIME!).
CAIR are representing 6 Imams that were thrown off USAirways flight 300 on November 21, 2006 and are suing the passengers that reported the Imams suspicious activities (John Doe prosecution).
CAIR has been named as an unindicted co-conspirator in the ongoing "Holy Foundation" Trial in Dallas. The "Holy Foundation" has been indicted for supplying funds to the terrorist group HAMAS!
CAIR recently sent a threat letter to the Young American Foundation stating that if they allowed Robert Spencer of Jihadwatch.org to speak, they would "use every legal avenue" to stop them (that dirty little freedom of speech right).
August 6, 2007 at 8:08 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Chili (anonymous) says...
If they are traveling to North Carolina from Florida, what were they doing on a stretch of road 35 miles from the main route of travel, I-95? In other words, that road is not normally traveled by tourist.
Fireworks are legal in SC. 99% of the SC police know what is legal vs. illegal when it comes to fireworks. They are also trained in how to ID IED's
I am sure something in the conversation between the police and the suspects made the police suspicious prompting further investigation and questions at the scene.
I spoke with and EOD friend from work and was told the device or materials could have been interrupted and not detonated. Interruption would save the material for evidence and detonation would obviously destroy the material.
Then you have the guy from CAIR saying from day one they had left over fireworks in their car from the 4th of July? Before any of this was told in the press? Doesn't sound right to me.
August 6, 2007 at 8:10 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
SomeTruthPlease (anonymous) says...
Actually, and for the record, bond being set at 800K enables these 2 to request the assistance of a bondsman, which would require that they pay 10 percent of the amount, only. That is why IdolHanz said 80K.
August 6, 2007 at 8:13 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
GRITS (anonymous) says...
Do either of these men have jobs in Florida? If not, how are they allowed to be here if they are not full time students?
August 6, 2007 at 8:20 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Amanda (anonymous) says...
The 9/11 fanatical Muslim hijackers were as real as the Easter Bunny and Santa Claus. Big Daddy lied to you.
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Elevated tritium levels at the World Trade Center-05/14/02
http://www.osti.gov/energycitations/s...
Tritium gas is used to control the level of a blast.
This is referred to as "Dial-a-yield".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Variable...
"The spectrum and percentages of cancer are massive.
There are at least 4 classifications of blood-cell
cancers: leukemia, lymphoma, Hodgkin's and myeloma.
There are many more classifications of soft tissue
cancers. There is brain cancer. There is breast
cancer. For most of these there are subclassifications
of many different types of specific cancer in each, so
far not publicly disclosed. There are huge percentages
of respiratory distress and loss of function. Multiple
reports of 'irregular cycles' (miscarriages?). Most
likely there will be several more types of cancer to
follow. In particular, responders should be checked
for thyroid cancer and function. There has been no
noting of birth defects which also needs to be done.
There is one thing and only one thing that can cause
all these cancers and problems - RADIATION."
http://www.thepriceofliberty.org/06/0...
http://www.thepriceofliberty.org/07/0...
FDNY THYROID CANCER SHOCK
http://www.nypost.com/seven/07082007/...
FDNY'S 9/11-TOLL SHOCKER 5,000 GET MED CARE
http://www.nypost.com/seven/06172007/...
Three years after the World Trade Center attacks,
thousands of cops, firefighters, and people who
worked and lived near ground zero are sick
with respiratory problems. Some have cancer.
Is 9/11to blame? And how safe are the rest of us?
http://nymag.com/nymetro/news/sept11/...
Nun who worked in 9/11 dust dies of lung disease
http://www.unknownnews.org/060813-dyi...
Ground Zero Illnesses Clouding Giuliani's Legacy
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/14/nyr...
9/11 CANCER COPS BLOOD DISEASES DEVELOP IN YOUNG WTC RESPONDERS
http://www.nypost.com/seven/05312007/...
CANCER KILLS 9/11 COP, 46
http://www.nypost.com/seven/05142007/...
Cancer Hits 283 Rescuers of 9/11
http://www.nycpba.org/wtc/media/nyp06...
August 6, 2007 at 8:24 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
proGodproIsrael (anonymous) says...
in case this has not been posted
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RY9MJu...
August 6, 2007 at 8:30 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Pluffmuddy (anonymous) says...
The latest from the AP wire is here, on Fox...you might want to note that Mohamed admitted in his statement that he "made pipe bombs from items he had bought at Wal-Mart." If a local country boy had done this, there wouldn't be much excitement, but then, it's post-9/11, and these guys are Muslims...sounds like a poor choice of entertainment to me.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,2...
August 6, 2007 at 9 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
postman01 (anonymous) says...
Underdog, I am not offended. That is for the WEAK MINDED and it is distressing to me to see the thought processes of the weak minded enshrined as being somehow profound when they are in fact WEAK MINDED and there is no profundity to it whatsoever.
We all make mistakes and I have made many. I try to LEARN FROM THEM, an enormous contrast to the weak mindedness I am criticizing.
You are right about Russia. The WEAK MINDEDNESS of Communism (the most extreme form of left wing ideology) has so messed up the minds of enough people there that they believe foolish things. The only thing that makes them fearsome is their possession of the Bomb. Other than that, a nation with enormous potential has been made common by weak mindedness and then only because of the cowardly behavior of a numerical majority.
As for the subject of this thread, I reluctantly conclude that the gov't should be tight lipped. We are at war (which changes everything) and the imperative of not giving our enemies any information that they can use against us is controlling here.
Our body politic seems to be incapable of realizing completely that screwed up people exist and can not be changed. This irrationality is made clear by LEFT WINGER insistence on punishing "crime" when it occurs domestically and yet acting schizophenic when it's "international". Even demanding of the weak minded LEFT WINGER an explanation of why jails and mental hospitals exist in every society on this planet doesn't clear the dense fog infecting and impairing their thought and emotive processes.
August 6, 2007 at 9:37 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
peacenlove1 (anonymous) says...
EVERYONE IS TRYING TO MAKE UP SOMETHING ,ISLAM IS A VERY GOOD RELIGION AND CHRISTIANITY,IF U ARE STRICT IN YOUR CHRISTIANITY YOU WOULDN'T LIKE ALOT OF THINGS AROUND YOU ,,,LIKE BARSSSSS.....XXX STORES.STRIP CLUBS....ETC,, PEOPLE HERE IN AMERICA USED VIOLENCE AGINEST ALL OF THESE THINGS BACK I THE DAY BECAUSE THEY WERE STRICT IN THE RELIGION,,,,SO DON'T FIGHT ISLAM .....FIGHT ANYTHIG STRICT....MAKE A BALANCE ...EVEN PROPHET MOHAMED TOLD HIS PEOPLE TO LIVE IN BALANCE ,,SO THESE BAD GUYS ARE VERY STRICT MUSLIMS NOT GOOD ONES ...OK ? IM FROM OVER THERE AND I KNOW WHAT IM TELLING YOU GUYS ,I LOVE YOUR COUNTRY ... I RESPECT YOUR LAWS ...AND I WOULD HELP IF I CAN TO FIGHT THESE BAD PEOPLE LIKE MANY HERE HELPING FIGHTING THEM AND THEY ARE GOOD MUSLIM ARAB-AMRICANS
August 6, 2007 at 10:24 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
underdog (anonymous) says...
Postman01, good points, glad to know I'm not alone on the Russia thing. With their resources it is amazing that they are not THE superpower.
As for the developments of the story - the admission of deliberately making pipe bombs... that does change things. If these guys were not up to anything terrorist-ish, they sure as hell made a bad call. I can see how they may have just made the things to have fun (who didn't blow things up when they were a kid)... but the evidence at this point is against them, and how could they be THAT dumb - this isn't the day or the place to be Middle Eastern with illegal incendiary devices, that's for damn sure.
Postman01, again, thanks for pointing out my error before, and I'm glad I took a moment to realize the error. I don't see things the same way you do (I can't seem to distill things into left and right, conservative and liberal), but I guess that IS the point of America, different people with different viewpoints coming together for a common good, which is why I love discussions like the one today.
August 6, 2007 at 10:28 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
peacenlove1 (anonymous) says...
P.S
YOU ALWAYS GONNA FIND BAD SEED BETWEEN THE GOOD ONE ....DON'T MEAN ALL OF THEM ARE BAD, AND THAT AMERICAN SOILDER WHO RAPED AND KILLED IRQIAN GIRL AND KILLED HERE FAMILY LAST WEEK ......IS THAT MEAN ALL AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE BAD????!!! I DON'T THINK SO .... GUYS START THINK POSITIVE IN DIFFERENT WAYS NOT TO CREAT HATE ...
August 6, 2007 at 10:32 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Pluffmuddy (anonymous) says...
peacenlove, you're wasting your breath...Americans aren't about to "turn the other cheek" when it comes to attacks on the Homeland. Our national strength is rooted in being united in its defense. You're right that there are bad apples in every culture, but don't expect Americans to wait around for some knuckle-headed Muslim to be exonerated before branding the whole lot... We may be lots of things, but 'stupid' isn't one of them. We'd rather live in peace with the world, but it seems there are plenty of misguided radicals out there who just won't go away. No one should be surprised if the hornet stings when you put your hand in its nest. I appreciate your peacemaking comments, but they're just too late...
August 6, 2007 at 10:52 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
peacenlove1 (anonymous) says...
PLUFFMUDDY , NEVER TOO LATE WHEN U THINK POSITIVE AND KNOW THE DIIFERENCE BETWEEN BAD AND GOOD AMERICA GOT ALOT OF COUNTIRES SUPPORT HER IN THE MIDDLE EAST , SO DON'T JUDGE THE WHOLE PEOPLE BY SOME STRICT INDIVIDUALS [NOT FAIR] IM HERE AND MILLIONS OF ARABS LIVIN HERE AND LOVE AMERICA AND VERY GRATFUL TO EVERYTHING HERE AND BECAUSE OF MINOTITY OF BAD PEOPLE .........AMERICAN PEOPLE THINKING THAT ALL OF US ARABS AND MUSLIMS ARE BAD .......................................................................................................................WHERE IS THE AMERICAN JUSTICE AND FAIRNESS ?????????????????????????????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
August 6, 2007 at 11:02 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
jammer (anonymous) says...
I knew you would stop arguing once you found out what they had in the trunk... and it's still not all reveled, more to come...
they ought to just go ahead and throw them in the brig with the others and be done
August 6, 2007 at 11:08 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
peacenlove1 (anonymous) says...
I KNOW MOST OF RACIST PEOPLE THIS WAY
August 6, 2007 at 11:14 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
jammer (anonymous) says...
peacelove1 your "American Justice and Fairness" isn't for you, it's for Americans...
If you want to show your love for our country and way of life then you can do it by submitting to the reality of today's environment that was caused by YOUR people. Help us anyway you can and you will be accepted as one of us eventually.
But don't expect to be loved or even liked until you are proven not to be a hazard to us. We've seen how many Arab's are taught/trained to "assimilate until time" so don't expect anyone to trust you until you've proven yourself.
Sorry but that's the cold hard facts in a war like this.
It seems we help so many people over there only to have them later shoot us in the back, so how do we know who really wants to be American and who is lying?
as long as you live here and this war is unsettled you will be closely watched by all, live with it or leave...
the "law" has to watch how they treat you, we citizens don't have to worry about those stupid rules
the japs understood they were going to be watched after pearl harbor and were glad to help out, if you wish to be loyal to this country act like it and man up...
August 6, 2007 at 11:17 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Pluffmuddy (anonymous) says...
peacenlove, I understand and appreciate what you're saying, but it's pretty hard for the average American to be convinced of any great degree of Middle Eastern love for the US (with a very few exceptions) when it appears that there's very little effort on the part of most Middle Eastern countries to help stem the tide of terrorism. On the contrary, we (and I really don't pretend to be speaking for all of America) see widespread disdain for America's efforts, despite the fact that we're the most 'giving' country in on the planet. We can blame some of this perception on biased media coverage, but there's just cause in many cases... In the meantime, why not write your local sheik and ask him to fork over a few billion to combat terrorism... That would be a good start, and the gesture just might make our headlines!
August 6, 2007 at 11:21 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
peacenlove1 (anonymous) says...
[JAMMER] IM MAN ENOUGH AND I OFFERED MY HELP IN TRANSLATION WISE AND MORE ...IM NOT WORRY TO BE WATCHED AS LONG IM NOT DOIN ANYTHING WRONG MY [RED NECK] FRIEND AND YOUR PEOPLE GIVING OTHER PEOPLE HATE AND GETS HATE BACK...SO PEACE IS THE KEY ... NOT YOUR REDNECK SHOTGUN MY FRIEND MAN UP AND THINK POSITIVE ...YOUE PEOPLE AND MY PEOPLE!!! IM HERE AMERICAN LIKE U ARE BUT ALL U SUGGEST IS HATE CATCH THE BAD GUYS AND HATE THEM NOT THE INNOCENTS ..MY SOUTHERN AVERAGE REDNECK ....PEACE
August 6, 2007 at 11:26 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
peacenlove1 (anonymous) says...
PLUFFMUDDY
WE HAVE NO SHEIKS WHERE IM FROM , IJUST GIVE MY OPINION AND TRYIN TO HELP AS I CAN IN MANY DIFFERENT WAYS OR,,,,,SHOULD I LET IT GO AND CARE ONLY ABOUT MY SELF?? IM TRYIN TO SHOW THAT THERE IS MANY GOOD PEOPLE EVERYWHERE AND LOVE TO COME HERE NOT TO HURT AMERICA BUT TO VISIT OR LIVE HERE.........................STOP GIVIN VISAS TO OTHER COUNTRIES...... [[[[[ JAMMER]]]]] WHAT'S UP BOOOO OR BUBA SEE U AROUND IN UR REDNECK BAR OR WHEN U GO FIIIEEEESSSSHHING I MEAN FISHING ...EXCUSE MY FRENCH BOY
August 6, 2007 at 11:36 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
GRITS (anonymous) says...
Peacenlove1,
I have met many Middle Eastern people that are proud to be in the USA and are working as doctors here. They have devoted alot of their time, resources and efforts to help the citizens of this great nation. I would like to know about you and your ties to this country. How long have you been in the USA? Are you a citizen or here on a work/school visa? What are your thoughts about the war on terror? Do you feel that the USA and allied efforts to rebuild IRAQ is a worthy task? Please help us all to understand your views on our nation, the war on terror and the crazy acts of these fellows that just happen to have "FIREWORKS" in the trunk of their car. I look forward to you sharing with us.
August 6, 2007 at 11:37 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
idennis (anonymous) says...
LOL... Goooo Peacenlove1 ... you got some spunk takin on the hardcore redneck nation.. you're doin ok!
August 6, 2007 at 11:46 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
jammer (anonymous) says...
peacenlove1 you are not helping yourself any by insulting me, quite to the contrary...
you call me "redneck" as if you know who I am and where I'm from, you don't so you'd be smart to refrain from insults
I'm all for stopping the visa's and hanging out a "No Vacancies" sign
if you're helping, good... it'll show and you will be respected for it one day, unless you keep the insults going then it will be obvious you have no desire to help do anything but agitate and instigate arguments
I'm not spreading hate, I'm letting you know we aren't just a bunch of dumb rednecks around here that will fall for a bunch of deceit and lies.
we're watching you so be careful what you say and do, it can come back to haunt you
btw I was born in NYC, not too many rednecks there... bubba
when I got out of the Marine Corps I came here, locked n loaded
August 6, 2007 at 11:51 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
peacenlove1 (anonymous) says...
GRITS
IM MARRIED FROM AMERICAN CITIZEN, AND HAD MY DEGREE FROM MY COUNTRY IN LAW , WORKIN ON MY MASTERS IN INTERNATIONAL LAW , I'VE BEEN HERE FOR 6 YEARS IM THE BEGINING OF MY 30'S, ALWAYS WANTED TO COME AND LIVE IN YOUR GREAT NATION AND BE PART OF IT LIKE MANY PEOPLE ALL OVER THE WORLD , I THOUGHT THERE IS NO RACEST PEOPLE IN THE STATES LIKE OTHER EUROPIAN COUNTRIES CUZ IT'S LIKE YOU SAY [ THE MELTED POT] PEOPLE FROM ALL OVER, IM A CITIZEN,AND I SUPPORT THE WAR AGAINST TERRORISM ANY WHERE IN THE WORLD, THEY HURT MY COUNTRY ALOT , AND MANY OTHER ARAB COUNTRIES, AND ALL BY BINLADEN AND HIS PEOPLE , .........AND THAT'S MY FEELINGS AND MOST OF THE PEOPLE THERE[ EXEPT THE IGNORANT ONES]....WAR IN IRAQ IS A VERY COMPLECATED SITUATION ....TOO LATE TO FIX IT ....CAN'T GET OUT OF THERE UNTILL U GET THE JOB DONE.
AND IT'S GONNA BE SO HARD ,I WISH AMERICA DIDN'T GO THERE FROM THE BEGINING..IT'S A BIG MESS FOR BOTH SIDES...
THESE GUYS GOT ARRESTED FOR WHATEVER THEY HAVE I DON'T KNOW THE PICTURE ISNOT CLEAR TO ME YET....IF THEY MEANT HARM...SO THEY DESERVR TO DIE ,,,... I DON'T AGREE WITH THEM AT ALL ...
THAT'S MY OPINION EVEN IF I WASN'T LIVIN HERE
August 7, 2007 at 12:04 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
peacenlove1 (anonymous) says...
JAMMER,
DO U THINK THAT'S INSULT ,ANYWAY I MEANT FOR U TO THINK POSITIVE ,MAKE FRIENDS ...DON'T MAKE ENEMIES ,THEY WILL STAND RIGHT NEXT TO U WHEN U R DOWN DOESN;T MATTER WHERE THEY FROM OR WHAT COLOR THEY ARE ,SORRY ,U INSULTED ME LIKE U R AMERICANS AND IM NOT HUMAN ,LIKE U HAVE GOLD BLOOD AND I GOT RED NORMAL ONE,HEY IM BEING NICE AND GIVIN OPINION ,DON'T TRY TO BE SMART ,JUST ALL U CAN SAY ...HEY THANKS FOR SHARING BUDDY SPCIALLY WHEN IM FROM THAT AREA AND KNOW WHAT U DON'T REALLY KNOW ABOUT IT ,GOOD NITE SIR
August 7, 2007 at 12:12 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
GRITS (anonymous) says...
Peacenlove1,
Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Hopefully this will enlighten some of the folks that are a little "hyped up" about Middle Eastern people. I do not have a problem with any nationality and I wish others did not either. I do however have a problem with "THUGS",Terrorist and unlawful people.
August 7, 2007 at 12:12 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
peacenlove1 (anonymous) says...
GRITS
THANKS FOR BEING OPEN MINDED ,I HAVE NO PROBLEM WITH ANY BODY AS LONG THEY ARE RESPECTABLE NO MATTER WHAT COLOR..I WAS TRYIN TO TELL PEOPLE HERE WHAT THEY DON'T KNOW ABOUT THE OTHER SIDE . WAS TRYIN TO HELP ,U SEEM TO BE NICE GRITS AND POSITVE ,THANKS FOR BEING UNDERSTANDING
August 7, 2007 at 12:17 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
peacenlove1 (anonymous) says...
I WAS GIVIN OPINION , HARPO , R U JEWISH HARPO?? OR IGNORANT REDNECK ?? IS IT UR WAY OR THE HIGHWAY?? FREE SPEACH ?SHALOM ...SALAM ....PEACE.....LOVE....PEACE..U DON'T LIKE PEACE??? HARPO?? PEACE IS LOVE THAT'S WHAT JEASUS TOLD U OR MOSES IF U JEWISH
August 7, 2007 at 1:01 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
postman01 (anonymous) says...
Underdog, you got the most important point of all. Read my post about local shrimp in today's (08-07-07) P & C.
August 7, 2007 at 1:40 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
underdog (anonymous) says...
peacenlove... at least try not write in all capital letters, which is the equivalent of SHOUTING.
And it would be nice if you write your words out, as this is not an instant message.
There's a lot more to be gained from making good points than retaliating, so try and stay above the attacks, even if you are being attacked, okay? ;-)
August 7, 2007 at 5:47 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
underdog (anonymous) says...
Interesting note, the story has been corrected - the arrest affidavit said "devices", not "pipe bombs" as earlier reported. http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/...
August 7, 2007 at 6:07 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
n4dhs (anonymous) says...
I came here over 20 years ago from another country (LEGALLY!) - took me over a year and my then husband nearly 10 grand when it was all said and done - and if Peace is either at law school or graduated from same - then he/she has no clue how to write - how in the heck are you going to be able to produce legal briefs and documents if you can't spell, and have no idea of punctuation and grammar? - I also am married to an American citizen and have lived in three states - I have given birth to two American citizens and we need to stop this terrorism crap instead of being bleeding heart liberals and say "Oh we can't possibly do that"
August 7, 2007 at 8:03 a.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Amanda (anonymous) says...
SSA Richard J. Kolko, FBI
Unit Chief, National Press Office
Office of Public Affairs
202.324.8785 Desk
202.324.3691 Office Switchboard
richard.kolkoic.fbi.gov
Dear Mr. Kolko,
Congradulations on solving the case of the "Goose Neck Firework Terrorists". Shortly it will be six years since anthrax killed innocents and fueled America's paranoia. Why does the FBI keeps dragging its feet on the Amerithrax Investigation?
http://www.thesimon.com/magazine/arti...
http://www.aztlan.net/zack.htm
http://www.fbi.gov/anthrax/amerithrax...
Sincerely,
Amanda Moore
August 7, 2007 at 1:15 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
armor (anonymous) says...
Why do we still allow "these" kind of people into our country? Sometimes, we are our own worst enemy!
August 7, 2007 at 3:07 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Amanda (anonymous) says...
Pipe bombs are a hot topic in the news. However, none
of the following news items contain Muslim sounding
names and are not getting the same media attention. I
guess home grown terrorism isn't newsworthy.
Police Detonate Suspected Pipe Bomb
http://www.wfsb.com/news/13840067/det...
Two teens arrested in detonation of pipe bombs in
Troutdale, Fairview
http://blog.oregonlive.com/breakingne...
Driver arrested for tossing pipe bomb onto Taylor lawn
http://www.freep.com/apps/pbcs.dll/ar...
Two Elsmere Teens Arrested for Pipe Bomb
http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?sec...
Explosives in Del City home
http://www.mwcsun.com/local/local_sto...
Iowa Man Charged in Pipe Bomb Case Remains in Custody
http://www.kcrg.com/news/local/889561...
Bomb discovery, explosion probed
http://www.mercurynews.com/alamedacou...
Teens Charged With Setting Off Bomb
http://www.courant.com/news/custom/to...
Defendants in Las Vegas Strip bombing case bound over
for trial
http://www.lasvegassun.com/sunbin/sto...
Few clues in pipe bomb blast
http://tracypress.com/content/view/10...
Pipe bomb explodes in Troutdale neighborhood
http://www.theoutlookonline.com/news/...
Squad defuses pipe bomb in Rockrimmon
http://www.gazette.com/articles/pipe_...
Man who put pipe bomb outside Austin abortion clinic
pleads guilty
http://www.590klbj.com/News/Story.asp...
August 7, 2007 at 5:01 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
redtop68 (anonymous) says...
One more site for those of you with children re: Muslims - americancongressfortruth.com - read it and forward it on to all other parents. It's scary!
August 7, 2007 at 5:52 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Amanda (anonymous) says...
This is scary too!!!
http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z1...
August 8, 2007 at 12:34 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
Amanda (anonymous) says...
Planet of the Apes
http://www.dailywav.com/0901/damnyou.wav
http://i191.photobucket.com/albums/z1...
August 8, 2007 at 3:39 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
LoganLegere (anonymous) says...
Hey, RockSolidRepublican why not really support our troops and go over there to fight? You're an idiot.
August 10, 2007 at 12:42 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
LoganLegere (anonymous) says...
And Jammer, the "Japs" weren't "more than happy" to lose their rights.
The Supreme Court dammed it. The government had to pay reparations. No one but you seems to be in favor of that old gulag system.
August 10, 2007 at 12:47 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
TugMcGroin (anonymous) says...
To Amanda, Peacenlove1, Grits, Fluffmuddy and Majorjohnson,
Seems like your innocent, ignorant Muslim friends were actually out to kill innocent US citizens. How does it feel to be so absolutely oblivious to the treat these 7th century, knuckle dragging thugs bring to America? Idiots, all of you!
http://www.tampabays10.com/news/local...
June 13, 2008 at 11:05 p.m. ( permalink | suggest removal )
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