Seek sub option

The management at Patriots Point must re-evaluate current findings and research viable alternatives for the USS Clamagore.

The recently cited study was based on observations of a cursory walk-through instead of a thorough evaluation by engineers, whose findings then could be converted to a detailed cost analysis - in contrast to the flippant $5 million to $8 million packaged estimate. This is more than double the cost estimated by a local shipyard.

Additionally, there are hundreds of local submarine veterans in the Charleston area who would volunteer to do much of the work to restore the Clamagore, yet the offers have been consistently ignored by Patriots Point.

If Patriots Point wants to dispose of the submarine, it should go to the Clamagore Restoration and Maintenance Association, a local tax-exempt group specifically chartered to save the boat and put it on land as a museum.

Additionally Patriots Point should donate what would have been spent to make the Clamagore a reef to the preservation effort.

This would be a win for everyone - Patriots Point would be shed of the Clamagore and those who care about it would take over responsibility.

Thomas E. Clark

MCPO, Submariner

U.S. Navy (Retired)

Mendenhall Street


Real meaning

Discrimination is the word of the day.

Everybody and his baby brother are complaining that they've been ignored and insulted.

Who else is complaining?

I am. The U.S. Postal Service has ignored my religious Christmas by picturing a gingerbread house on one of its stamps.

What happened to the birth of Jesus Christ? It's Christmas, his birthday. Get it?

I'm glad Christmas fosters good will, happiness, Santa Claus and the Christmas tree all over the world, but where is Baby Jesus?

Our country was founded on religious freedom and Christianity over 200 years ago. The U.S. Postal Service has no right to ignore this fact.

It's a disservice to the largest religious denomination in the United States; it's disrespectful and unjust, to say the least.

Roberta Weingarten

Lockwood Drive


Labor-force reality

The Dec. 7 issue of The Post and Courier included an Associated Press article that headlined the report that unemployment for November had dropped to a five-year low of 7 percent. It was offered as great news.

However, in the last four paragraphs the article indicated that all was not necessarily well, that there were significant problems with long-term unemployment and that most hires were still in low-wage industries.

The article failed to mention two important factors.

First, no more people are employed today than in the fourth quarter of 2008 - about 144 million.

Second, over the same five-year period, the number of "not in work force" increased from 79 million to 91.3 million.

"Not in work force" means the Bureau of Labor Statistics (BLS) does not consider them unemployed and disregards their numbers.

For practical purposes, there has been zero job growth in the past five years and the unemployment rate has dropped simply because 12.3 million citizens are not included in labor-force calculations.

In effect, the total increase in population since 2008 does not exist for statistical purposes.

Further, according to the BLS chart, an average of 200,000 jobs has been added each month since January. That calculates to 2.2 million over 11 months.

However, the November BLS report shows that since November 2012 (12 months), the number of employed has grown by only 1.1 million.

How can that be?

Sometimes it is worth the effort to check beyond the headlines.

Charles Nystrom

Anstead Drive


Don't slur Fido

The analysis "Congress' dog of a year whimpers to a close" by David Espo of The Associated Press (Dec. 8) insults dogs by associating them with the 113th Congress.

Dogs are loyal, unselfish and trusting.

The current Congress is none of these. Words like narcissistic, sycophantic and dishonest are more descriptive of the 113th Congress.

Martin S. Ryan

Oyster Bay Drive